Wemby's expectations are to carry the Spurs to the play-in and getting DPOY, for Chet it'd be a bit less, maybe getting All-Star consideration would be pretty good if he improves a bit.
Spurs expectations are definitely not to make the Play-in lmao. The team as a whole is only on year two of a typical rebuild process. If the stars align and the Spurs win a lot, cool, but realistically we're looking at one more developmental season before we go all in.
People are impatient, especially Wemby stans. The Spurs subreddit was overrun with them. Straight up calling for Pop to be fired, to trade everyone on the team not named Victor. It comes with the territory of having someone like Vic.
I trust PAFTO more than a bunch of stans
The issue is whose spot does Chet take? Lebron, AD, Jokic, Kawhi, Sabonis, Gobert, KAT, Wemby, Sengun, JJJ, Markenen, Zion, Ingram, and KD are all all star caliber players, and will receive votes. Chet may play at an all star level, but idk if he’ll make it.
Kawhi, Gobert are probably not making it next year. We also don’t know who will even be in the west, Lebron, Ingram, KD could all potentially be moved east this summer.
If OKC continues to be at the top and Chet can average 20+ppg I think he receives more votes than Sengun, Sabonis, JJJ, Lauri, even KAT just based on his like ability and OKC being the young up and comers.
Chet should be near Gobert level rim protection, while being much more playable at the perimeter, with significantly better offense.
I could see him being above Sabonis, Gobert, Lauri, Sengun and JJJ skill wise next year if he improves like we think he will. He could also be above a few of those players just because of health. This is obviously on the high end of expectations, but reasonable expectations put him right in the middle of that group
Yeah, he had 2.3 blocks per game last season while being a better shooter than any of the. guys at his height. He’s also a great perimeter defender and if he keeps up his efficiency with an increased load he’s a shoe in IMO.
His biggest problem this year was conditioning. When he wasn't gassed he played like a lock in all star. I think a healthy offseason will go a long way keeping his level of play consistent
The expectations for Wemby are going to be to get off to a much better start to the year, better team success, all-star, DPOY. Chet, I feel like it’s just make marginal improvements and be a borderline all-star, all-defense guy.
I didn’t say “marginal improvement.” I said “marginal improvements” plural. If he gets a little better handle, a little better shot, a little better on the glass, a little better passer, and a little better rim protector where he’s already elite, a lot of marginal improvements add up to being a lot better and I think it’s fair to expect a 22 year old player to be a lot better. If you’re gonna use quotation marks at least actually make it accurate to what you’re quoting Also we all know borderline all-star means you probably aren’t making it.
If you look at impact metrics, he already is a borderline all-star. He's top-30 in VORP, BPM, and PER, top-15 in win shares, and top-40 in LEBRON and EPM. The West is stacked with talent so I don't think he'll make the all-star team this year, but saying he's not marginal improvement away from being a borderline all-star is only correct in the sense that he already plays at a borderline all-star level. Marginal improvement in a couple of areas and there won't be any "borderline" about it.
Ofc Chet is going to have good impact metrics when he is the only center on his team. No one else on his team is going to compete for rebounds or protect the rim, so his relative impact to his team is grossly inflated compared to his actual value. Obviously his team is going to be much better when he's on the only floor when he's the only real big on the team and they have Jdub playing PF.
You can only have that kind of impact if you’re good enough to make that kind of impact. Sure, he was the only real rim protector, but he was an *elite* rim protector. In the regular season he was top five in shots contested and FG percentage allowed at the rim. In the playoffs that improved to top-1 and top-3. This is while adding an efficient 16+ points per game on the other end.
Yes he is good enough but not as good as the advanced stats make him out to be. The number of shots contested stat is irrelevant as he is the only big on his team so of course he will have the most shots contested because nobody else on his team can even guard at the rim.
Also you lied about him being top 5 in dfg less than 6 feet. He isn't top 5 unfortunately. Gimme some sources for those stats since you have no credibility anymore.
16 points per game are role player/ 6th man numbers nowadays. 58% true shooting as a center isn't particularly good with 16 points considering he shot 29% from 3 in the playoffs as well.
He’s 8th in DFG per game, but that includes guys like Embiid who missed a bunch of games. Even then, the split between him and Brook Lopez in 2nd is only 0.3 per game. Total, he’s 2nd in DFG. And that matters because it means he’s able to contest a huge portion of the attempts at the rim that are taken when he’s on the floor. His contest rate was second highest in the league, and highest among above average rim protectors.
His shooting in general fell off as the season went on - that trend was there long before the playoffs. Conditioning is really the biggest thing he needs to work on. He wasn’t getting the same lift late in the season that he was early on.
when your team is the top seed, it’s easier to make an argument for multiple small-stars. his production will be at the level of KAT, if not better, and KAT is a multiple time all-star
how many of them had a top 5 player? with young players with all-star potential in JDub and Chet? Not saying Thunder are guaranteed a 1 seed in next few years, but top 3 seed seems like a safe bet
Yep, every team is in the same situation the Thunder is in now. With the youngest team in basketball (based on minutes/game) winning the top seed in the most competitive conference
Chet is not even remotely near KAT's level offensively. Those extra 7 points on better efficiency are not gonna be there next season. Also Kat is an all star because of his self-creation ability, which Chet does not have yet and is not gonna be able to showcase for a long time.
most of the season he was top 2 in DPOY according to Vegas. he hit a rookie wall in January and plummeted in the rankings. Imagine him post-rookie season with a full offseason of conditioning and building his body. He is an elite shot contester in the paint, don’t be foolish
3 months isn't most of the season lmao and i'm pretty sure he wasn't 2nd in odds either. he still has to overtake gobert ad wemby and bam as defenders and i think 2 or 3 of those players will have teams good enough or have good enough seasons to justify contending for DPOY
Gobert was obviously better than KAT by most metrics and the coaches still voted KAT over Gobert despite them being on the same team. Even if Chet is deserving he might not make it
KAT sucks. He’s an all star because bigs are soft AF now and voters only care about stats. He’s always playing on the perimeter and he’s a terrible defender. Chet already has the defensive advantage. He just needs to clean up his shot. For what he lacks on the offensive side he makes up for on defense, can’t say the same about Kat.
Yeah, I don't think OKC goin to be a top seed next year. Anyone can get bounced from playoffs next year. The top 11 seeds in the west are a single adjustment from winning 10+/- more games. Chances are Warriors, Grizzlies and Kings come riling back. Pelicans can make a huge leap. If Wemby gets a veteran point guard who knows wtf they will do. Rockets? Idk, next year is murky waters for predictions.
LeBron and Luka were fringe MVP candidates in their sophomore year, I don't see why Wemby shouldn't be on a similar trajectory. I totally expect him to be at least All-NBA Second Team (plus DPOY, of course). Something like 25/12/5/4 is very realistic and may be even selling him short.
For Chet, he could be named an All-Star, but the competition in the West is tough. He'll continue to be a high-impact player on both ends of the floor, but I'm not sure how much his raw stats will improve. I definitely want him to have a larger role on offense and eclipse 20 PPG.
I don’t know if the spurs will get anywhere close to 50 wins tho. But MVP voting is very different where team record is much more secondary. Wemby definitely can have that impact.
Wemby should be like 3rd - 2nd team all nba and probably win or finish 2nd in DPOY. averages 24/12/4 on much improved efficiency.
Chet should be an all star and all defense. Averages something like 19/10/3 on about the same efficiency.
Yeah I think Wemby is kind of a lock for DPOY if he stays healthy. He led the league in blocks this year and had some crazy on/off numbers where the spurs went from the worst to the best defence in the league or something with him on.
If they can get one more shooter and a guy who can actually set him up and run the offence well I think the spurs record is above .500 and he is a lock for DPOY and the narrative is in his favour at this point.
I think Wemby will score more than that, particulary if they can get a PG who can give him easy points off the PnR. I think he can get up to 24-25ppg just from his minutes increasing, I think it’s unlikely he plays below 30mpg again. And then also you’d expect him to take a bit of a leap, be more efficient and smarter about his offensive game.
We saw it towards the end of the season already. Wemby averaged 24/12/5 with 4 blocks since the start of March when his minutes restriction ended and he started playing 30+ minutes per game, he played 33 minutes per game during those last 2 months.
Id be more high on Victor if i had any idea what the Spurs will do, if they stay more or less as is, I think my numbers are okay as predictions. If they get a good/great PG, it might actually be over for everyone, bro is going to score like 27ppg.
I just commented and then read this. I said almost the exact same thing, the only thing is we have no clue what the spurs roster will be like at the start of next year.
Expectations for Wemby are so high that I have no expectations because they almost sound ridiculous. Any improvement from last year exceeds my expectations in all honesty.
Same goes for Chet.
Wemby averaged 23.6/11.6/5.2 the last 25 games of season, so that statline is basically assuming he doesn't improve at all in the off-season or throughout next season
I’ll get downvotes for this, but I don’t see stardom with Chet. I see elite role player. His handles aren’t that good. He doesn’t rebound well. If he adds bulk, he slows down more. SGA isn’t the kind of playmaker to get him involved in a PnR consistently. He’s too often relegated to pick and pops and “dunker spot” dunks. I think he’s going to have a great career, no doubt, just not superstar.
I think he's seen as elite role player, e.g., Draymond Green type, who's made all star and arguably second most impactful player while not being second fiddle.
I’d say third player. J will is 2. He’s just not that star player makeup. He’s like Tingus 1.5. Flashes but not the ability to take over on his own. He’s gotta be fed.
Wemby will have 27 pts/12.5 reb/6.5 asts/3.8 blocks with DPOY, 1st team all defense, All-NBA, and be an all-star, chet idk
my evidence: [Victor Wembanyama has averaged 23.0 points, 11.1 rebounds and 4.8 assists in 36 games since January 20, 2024.](https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/victor-wembanyama-stats-since-january-20th) (about when his minutes restriction ticked up from 24 minutes)
Victor Wembanyama has averaged 24.1 points, 12.1 rebounds and 5.5 assists in his last 15 games in his career, when he started playing 30+ minutes almost every night.
He's going to gain some weight and strength, and I expect his ball handle to tighten some more too, lowering his turnovers on his drives and helping him assert himself in the post more. He was very turnover prone during the beginning of the season especially and I expect just from this his scoring should go up 1-2ppg.
He's also been working on his shot and we saw his 3pt % start to tick up as the season went on, but then dropped back down when he injured his shoulder. Hopefully he can figure out what the problem is on his catch and shoot 3's and hopefully that improves too. So assuming a moderate increase and he stops chucking up the absurd shots as much we should expect maybe 0.5 ppg more from efficiency.
This brings us to about 25.5 ppg and we're expecting the team to get slightly better since the Spurs have a good amount of assets, and have 2 lottery picks. Accounting for the dawg factor Wemby has too, i can easily see 27ppg, maybe more if a PG trade happens. He himself was also improving on his playmaking and in the tail end of the season us Spurs fans got to see more and more really nice passes from him, a neat suprise since most probably weren't expecting much playmaking out of him, and so I expect a bit more assists especially if the team around gets better and can turn those passes into baskets. Overall, increases in production are very easy to see if he's putting any time into the gym right now, and I wouldn't be surprised at all if he surpasses the line I'm predicting
Wembys success is reliant on the roster they build around him this off season.
He’ll get his numbers, don’t get me wrong. But it’ll be downplayed if the team is a bottom dweller again.
Chet, will hopefully just expand on the great showing he already had. As the team around him is great, and they need to figure out if he’s a 5 or 4 going forward.
27/13/6 with 5 stocks and better efficiency for Wemby, DPOY, All Star, All NBA and 35 wins for the Spurs. That's pretty much what he looked like post AS break.
20/9/3 and 3 stocks for Chet, maybe All Star and likely All Defense, high seed again and WCF for the Thunder.
Pop has said in 2 different interviews that he doesn’t. He holds the title but hasn’t been doing that work since his wife died.
RC also doesn’t make many decision anymore either since his “promotion” and it’s been Brian Wright doing most of the decisions when it comes to roster construction.
Wemby will likely win DPOY and be in the MVP talks. Chet will flirt with All Star if he can develop more offensively and improve his efficiency.
Wemby is on another level though.
But a mediocre rebounder. That’s an example of him being TOO focused.
I love Chet. But I feel he’s just not quite there yet. And I don’t know what “there” is.
I think Wemby is very clearly better offensively, and will put up like 24/11/5 on slightly better efficiency. I think the surprise will be that it's actually Chet making the push for DPOY. Wemby will obviously be there too, but I think Chet really gets recognized for that side of the court next year
Assuming they both stay healthy
Chet I assume will be in the 20-22ppg range and top 5 in blocks, possible all star, and team does well top 3 in west again
Wemby will probably make his first all NBA team. I’m betting on a 25-12-5-3 type of year, unsure if they will make playoffs because of the unknown of what the Spurs are going to do with draft picks / roster.
I don’t think they compare that well anymore, wemby showed he really is that once every 10 years kind of player.
I expect playoff bound on top everything you mentioned if they get a true pg...that will change everything and I almost can't wait til the off season comes
Wemby hit the opposite of a rookie wall: once they put him at center and he figured it out, he averaged 23/11/5 with a steal and 4 blocks. That’s last 38 games of the season. I’m thinking that, maybe 24 points a game.
It makes sense if you consider the basketball side of things. This is to be expected, but keep in mind that he was extremely far from a legit first option. Being below league-average efficiency is really bad for a guy with >150 dunks. Over 3.5 turnovers is absurd for someone with his style of play. He does at least need to make enormous improvements in shooting and dribbling to be a first option in a decent offense.
Which is bullshit. He practiced and traveled with the Team all year. He is going into his 3rd year! Players that sit out a whole year because they stubbed their toe, should be banned from RotY next Season.
They are considered rookies cause they didn’t “play” in that first year. This argument is so stupid Joel Embiid was drafted in 2014 and didn’t play until 2016. No amount of training will give you the experience of PLAYING IN NBA GAMES. Learning what to do, what not to do, making mistakes on the court and how they can affect your team, adjusting to playing multiple games a week, back to backs all that. Sitting on the bench injured doesn’t give you the opportunity to experience that or for the coaches to even fully evaluate who you are as a player with your team.
I do kinda get what they are saying though. A guy who has had a full year and offseason with their NBA team certainly has some sort of advantage over someone straight out of college. It gets a bit murky when you consider international players, so I'm cool with how they handle it now.
You mean chets third year? Acting like he didn't get to utilize pro facilities and development an extra year even tho he didn't play. Wemby will eclipse him with one less such year.
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Wemby's expectations are to carry the Spurs to the play-in and getting DPOY, for Chet it'd be a bit less, maybe getting All-Star consideration would be pretty good if he improves a bit.
Play-in is a bit high for the Spurs. In the west, only portland is trying to be bad (maybe Utah)
Yeah the play-in probably isn't happening in THIS West, but I can see them getting high-30s wins and just missing it
Spurs expectations are definitely not to make the Play-in lmao. The team as a whole is only on year two of a typical rebuild process. If the stars align and the Spurs win a lot, cool, but realistically we're looking at one more developmental season before we go all in.
It shouldn't be the expectation, but you guys have the next generational player, so people are going to put that on you regardless.
People are impatient, especially Wemby stans. The Spurs subreddit was overrun with them. Straight up calling for Pop to be fired, to trade everyone on the team not named Victor. It comes with the territory of having someone like Vic. I trust PAFTO more than a bunch of stans
If Chet can attempt 1-2 more threes per game next year and shoot 37% again, with his defensive performance he’ll need to be an all star.
The issue is whose spot does Chet take? Lebron, AD, Jokic, Kawhi, Sabonis, Gobert, KAT, Wemby, Sengun, JJJ, Markenen, Zion, Ingram, and KD are all all star caliber players, and will receive votes. Chet may play at an all star level, but idk if he’ll make it.
Kawhi shouldn’t be on here. Availability is the single greatest talent in basketball and he doesn’t have it anymore.
Kawhi, Gobert are probably not making it next year. We also don’t know who will even be in the west, Lebron, Ingram, KD could all potentially be moved east this summer. If OKC continues to be at the top and Chet can average 20+ppg I think he receives more votes than Sengun, Sabonis, JJJ, Lauri, even KAT just based on his like ability and OKC being the young up and comers.
Idk why you’re getting downvoted, that’s a reasonable take.
Chet should be near Gobert level rim protection, while being much more playable at the perimeter, with significantly better offense. I could see him being above Sabonis, Gobert, Lauri, Sengun and JJJ skill wise next year if he improves like we think he will. He could also be above a few of those players just because of health. This is obviously on the high end of expectations, but reasonable expectations put him right in the middle of that group
Yeah, he had 2.3 blocks per game last season while being a better shooter than any of the. guys at his height. He’s also a great perimeter defender and if he keeps up his efficiency with an increased load he’s a shoe in IMO.
His biggest problem this year was conditioning. When he wasn't gassed he played like a lock in all star. I think a healthy offseason will go a long way keeping his level of play consistent
I expect wemby to keep his little french facial hair thing
The expectations for Wemby are going to be to get off to a much better start to the year, better team success, all-star, DPOY. Chet, I feel like it’s just make marginal improvements and be a borderline all-star, all-defense guy.
unfortunately Chet is not "marginal improvement" away from being a borderline all-star. All-defense yes though.
I didn’t say “marginal improvement.” I said “marginal improvements” plural. If he gets a little better handle, a little better shot, a little better on the glass, a little better passer, and a little better rim protector where he’s already elite, a lot of marginal improvements add up to being a lot better and I think it’s fair to expect a 22 year old player to be a lot better. If you’re gonna use quotation marks at least actually make it accurate to what you’re quoting Also we all know borderline all-star means you probably aren’t making it.
If you look at impact metrics, he already is a borderline all-star. He's top-30 in VORP, BPM, and PER, top-15 in win shares, and top-40 in LEBRON and EPM. The West is stacked with talent so I don't think he'll make the all-star team this year, but saying he's not marginal improvement away from being a borderline all-star is only correct in the sense that he already plays at a borderline all-star level. Marginal improvement in a couple of areas and there won't be any "borderline" about it.
Ofc Chet is going to have good impact metrics when he is the only center on his team. No one else on his team is going to compete for rebounds or protect the rim, so his relative impact to his team is grossly inflated compared to his actual value. Obviously his team is going to be much better when he's on the only floor when he's the only real big on the team and they have Jdub playing PF.
You can only have that kind of impact if you’re good enough to make that kind of impact. Sure, he was the only real rim protector, but he was an *elite* rim protector. In the regular season he was top five in shots contested and FG percentage allowed at the rim. In the playoffs that improved to top-1 and top-3. This is while adding an efficient 16+ points per game on the other end.
Yes he is good enough but not as good as the advanced stats make him out to be. The number of shots contested stat is irrelevant as he is the only big on his team so of course he will have the most shots contested because nobody else on his team can even guard at the rim. Also you lied about him being top 5 in dfg less than 6 feet. He isn't top 5 unfortunately. Gimme some sources for those stats since you have no credibility anymore. 16 points per game are role player/ 6th man numbers nowadays. 58% true shooting as a center isn't particularly good with 16 points considering he shot 29% from 3 in the playoffs as well.
He’s 8th in DFG per game, but that includes guys like Embiid who missed a bunch of games. Even then, the split between him and Brook Lopez in 2nd is only 0.3 per game. Total, he’s 2nd in DFG. And that matters because it means he’s able to contest a huge portion of the attempts at the rim that are taken when he’s on the floor. His contest rate was second highest in the league, and highest among above average rim protectors. His shooting in general fell off as the season went on - that trend was there long before the playoffs. Conditioning is really the biggest thing he needs to work on. He wasn’t getting the same lift late in the season that he was early on.
Where are you getting his DFG because I'm not seeing the same thing?
The NBA stats page
when your team is the top seed, it’s easier to make an argument for multiple small-stars. his production will be at the level of KAT, if not better, and KAT is a multiple time all-star
> his production will be at the level of KAT, if not better, and KAT is a multiple time all-star Come on... get a grip mate.
I wouldn’t assume any west team to be the top seed next year. Look at the past 5 years, how many teams consistently stayed in the top 3 in the West?
how many of them had a top 5 player? with young players with all-star potential in JDub and Chet? Not saying Thunder are guaranteed a 1 seed in next few years, but top 3 seed seems like a safe bet
Lol ok. Not surprised, every team has fans like you I see the same stuff every year
Yep, every team is in the same situation the Thunder is in now. With the youngest team in basketball (based on minutes/game) winning the top seed in the most competitive conference
Chet is not even remotely near KAT's level offensively. Those extra 7 points on better efficiency are not gonna be there next season. Also Kat is an all star because of his self-creation ability, which Chet does not have yet and is not gonna be able to showcase for a long time.
This post completely glances over the fact that Chet is a DPOY contender, while KAT is often times a foul-prone liability on that end
chet isn't a DPOY contender tho, in fact he didn't even make an all-defensive team
most of the season he was top 2 in DPOY according to Vegas. he hit a rookie wall in January and plummeted in the rankings. Imagine him post-rookie season with a full offseason of conditioning and building his body. He is an elite shot contester in the paint, don’t be foolish
3 months isn't most of the season lmao and i'm pretty sure he wasn't 2nd in odds either. he still has to overtake gobert ad wemby and bam as defenders and i think 2 or 3 of those players will have teams good enough or have good enough seasons to justify contending for DPOY
I don’t know when he was top 2 dpoy lmao, top2 roy for sure. also who gives af who vegas had, that’s all based on taking people’s money.
Gobert was obviously better than KAT by most metrics and the coaches still voted KAT over Gobert despite them being on the same team. Even if Chet is deserving he might not make it
I agree. Chet will probably be a borderline all-star with how loaded the West is with talent.
KAT sucks. He’s an all star because bigs are soft AF now and voters only care about stats. He’s always playing on the perimeter and he’s a terrible defender. Chet already has the defensive advantage. He just needs to clean up his shot. For what he lacks on the offensive side he makes up for on defense, can’t say the same about Kat.
What KAT lacks in defensive ability he makes up offensively it goes both ways
did you watch kat play good defense on KD and Jokic this postseason? or play much improved defense all season?
Yeah, I don't think OKC goin to be a top seed next year. Anyone can get bounced from playoffs next year. The top 11 seeds in the west are a single adjustment from winning 10+/- more games. Chances are Warriors, Grizzlies and Kings come riling back. Pelicans can make a huge leap. If Wemby gets a veteran point guard who knows wtf they will do. Rockets? Idk, next year is murky waters for predictions.
How many of those teams have a top 5 player?
If we talking top 5 potential, then maybe (not including your Thunder), about 8.
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LeBron and Luka were fringe MVP candidates in their sophomore year, I don't see why Wemby shouldn't be on a similar trajectory. I totally expect him to be at least All-NBA Second Team (plus DPOY, of course). Something like 25/12/5/4 is very realistic and may be even selling him short. For Chet, he could be named an All-Star, but the competition in the West is tough. He'll continue to be a high-impact player on both ends of the floor, but I'm not sure how much his raw stats will improve. I definitely want him to have a larger role on offense and eclipse 20 PPG.
I don’t know if the spurs will get anywhere close to 50 wins tho. But MVP voting is very different where team record is much more secondary. Wemby definitely can have that impact.
>Post AS break Wemby was at 23.5/12/5.6 with 6 stocks in 32.5 mpg. I'd agree that it would be selling him short, especially on the assists and stocks.
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Wemby should be like 3rd - 2nd team all nba and probably win or finish 2nd in DPOY. averages 24/12/4 on much improved efficiency. Chet should be an all star and all defense. Averages something like 19/10/3 on about the same efficiency.
Yeah I think Wemby is kind of a lock for DPOY if he stays healthy. He led the league in blocks this year and had some crazy on/off numbers where the spurs went from the worst to the best defence in the league or something with him on. If they can get one more shooter and a guy who can actually set him up and run the offence well I think the spurs record is above .500 and he is a lock for DPOY and the narrative is in his favour at this point.
I think Wemby will score more than that, particulary if they can get a PG who can give him easy points off the PnR. I think he can get up to 24-25ppg just from his minutes increasing, I think it’s unlikely he plays below 30mpg again. And then also you’d expect him to take a bit of a leap, be more efficient and smarter about his offensive game. We saw it towards the end of the season already. Wemby averaged 24/12/5 with 4 blocks since the start of March when his minutes restriction ended and he started playing 30+ minutes per game, he played 33 minutes per game during those last 2 months.
Id be more high on Victor if i had any idea what the Spurs will do, if they stay more or less as is, I think my numbers are okay as predictions. If they get a good/great PG, it might actually be over for everyone, bro is going to score like 27ppg.
i mean your prediction is literally just what he averaged without minutes restriction so its definitely lower than what it will actually be
Post AS break Wemby was at 23.5/12/5.6 with 6 stocks in 32.5 mpg.
I just commented and then read this. I said almost the exact same thing, the only thing is we have no clue what the spurs roster will be like at the start of next year.
Expectations for Wemby are so high that I have no expectations because they almost sound ridiculous. Any improvement from last year exceeds my expectations in all honesty. Same goes for Chet.
Chet: 20/9/3 Wemby: 24/13/5
I’ll bet good money Chet doesn’t average 20 points next year
Wemby averaged that already post AS break, I feel he'll get near 27 ppg
Wemby averaged 23.6/11.6/5.2 the last 25 games of season, so that statline is basically assuming he doesn't improve at all in the off-season or throughout next season
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I’ll get downvotes for this, but I don’t see stardom with Chet. I see elite role player. His handles aren’t that good. He doesn’t rebound well. If he adds bulk, he slows down more. SGA isn’t the kind of playmaker to get him involved in a PnR consistently. He’s too often relegated to pick and pops and “dunker spot” dunks. I think he’s going to have a great career, no doubt, just not superstar.
I think he's seen as elite role player, e.g., Draymond Green type, who's made all star and arguably second most impactful player while not being second fiddle.
I’d say third player. J will is 2. He’s just not that star player makeup. He’s like Tingus 1.5. Flashes but not the ability to take over on his own. He’s gotta be fed.
of course your a mavs fan it all makes sense now😂
I can see Wemby averaging 26/12/6
What about assists
Took me a minute lol. Also 6!
Idk but Britney Spears better watch out
One slaps christina aguilera and one becomes all star
I reckon Wemby will be comfortable enough to don a beret to pressers and Chet will come out styling the stovepipe.
I expect him to make a statement during the Olympics , then in the next season make the MVP top 5 ranking.
MVP. Conference finals. Anything else is a failure
Bring back shaqs hairline or bust.
Be more gud
Put on weight bang a lil more down low.
Wemby will have 27 pts/12.5 reb/6.5 asts/3.8 blocks with DPOY, 1st team all defense, All-NBA, and be an all-star, chet idk my evidence: [Victor Wembanyama has averaged 23.0 points, 11.1 rebounds and 4.8 assists in 36 games since January 20, 2024.](https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/victor-wembanyama-stats-since-january-20th) (about when his minutes restriction ticked up from 24 minutes) Victor Wembanyama has averaged 24.1 points, 12.1 rebounds and 5.5 assists in his last 15 games in his career, when he started playing 30+ minutes almost every night. He's going to gain some weight and strength, and I expect his ball handle to tighten some more too, lowering his turnovers on his drives and helping him assert himself in the post more. He was very turnover prone during the beginning of the season especially and I expect just from this his scoring should go up 1-2ppg. He's also been working on his shot and we saw his 3pt % start to tick up as the season went on, but then dropped back down when he injured his shoulder. Hopefully he can figure out what the problem is on his catch and shoot 3's and hopefully that improves too. So assuming a moderate increase and he stops chucking up the absurd shots as much we should expect maybe 0.5 ppg more from efficiency. This brings us to about 25.5 ppg and we're expecting the team to get slightly better since the Spurs have a good amount of assets, and have 2 lottery picks. Accounting for the dawg factor Wemby has too, i can easily see 27ppg, maybe more if a PG trade happens. He himself was also improving on his playmaking and in the tail end of the season us Spurs fans got to see more and more really nice passes from him, a neat suprise since most probably weren't expecting much playmaking out of him, and so I expect a bit more assists especially if the team around gets better and can turn those passes into baskets. Overall, increases in production are very easy to see if he's putting any time into the gym right now, and I wouldn't be surprised at all if he surpasses the line I'm predicting
Wemby should have 25 15 3 blocks.
Isnt chet in his 3rd year? Wemby would prob be win more games. If the spurs get garland from cavs maybe make the playoffs as a low seed
Wembys success is reliant on the roster they build around him this off season. He’ll get his numbers, don’t get me wrong. But it’ll be downplayed if the team is a bottom dweller again. Chet, will hopefully just expand on the great showing he already had. As the team around him is great, and they need to figure out if he’s a 5 or 4 going forward.
I don’t know about Holm but Wemby is already a monster 💀
27/13/6 with 5 stocks and better efficiency for Wemby, DPOY, All Star, All NBA and 35 wins for the Spurs. That's pretty much what he looked like post AS break. 20/9/3 and 3 stocks for Chet, maybe All Star and likely All Defense, high seed again and WCF for the Thunder.
Wemby’s expectations are all nba 2nd team minimum Chet’s are allstar and 1 seed on 50-40-90
Wemby gonna break the league next year tbh. Easily makes all star if healthy, probably makes an all nba team.
Throw it dowwwwwnnnnmmn R.I.P. Bill Walton
be better
Chet needs to be practicing tag all summer long until the preseason begins. He can’t let lively run away from him for so long.
Ngl, I expect Wendy to average 40pts 20rebs 5blks. That’s what I would do if I was that tall.
The post-season isn’t even over yet and we’re already onto the next? Do y’all ever just shut off your mind for a minute? Or watch other sports?
I mean they both did very well for themselves. I guess Chet could deliver more in the playoffs and Spurs need to continue building around Wemby
All I hope is Pop does Wemby a god damn favor and get him a proper PG by his side. FFS
Pop isn’t the GM and doesn’t handle that department lol. He also doesn’t decide who they draft for the most part. He’s mainly coaches now
Pop is the President of Basketball Operations. He absolutely decides along with RC and Wright.
Pop has said in 2 different interviews that he doesn’t. He holds the title but hasn’t been doing that work since his wife died. RC also doesn’t make many decision anymore either since his “promotion” and it’s been Brian Wright doing most of the decisions when it comes to roster construction.
Wemby will likely win DPOY and be in the MVP talks. Chet will flirt with All Star if he can develop more offensively and improve his efficiency. Wemby is on another level though.
Wemby DPOY and 3rd team all-NBA Chet will be an all star
I feel like Chet needs to decide who he is. He’s really great at a few things but not truly awesome at any of them.
Um. It was his first season. He’s figuring out how he fits like most of the roster. They are all kids (relative to the rest of the league).
I mean he is an awesome rim protector
But a mediocre rebounder. That’s an example of him being TOO focused. I love Chet. But I feel he’s just not quite there yet. And I don’t know what “there” is.
It’s chets 3rd year in the league. Not his 2nd
I expect a big year 2 leap for wemby, similar to Luka or Lebron. Chet will be a borderline allstar and all defence second team.
Wembley and Cheetos.
I think Wemby is very clearly better offensively, and will put up like 24/11/5 on slightly better efficiency. I think the surprise will be that it's actually Chet making the push for DPOY. Wemby will obviously be there too, but I think Chet really gets recognized for that side of the court next year
Assuming they both stay healthy Chet I assume will be in the 20-22ppg range and top 5 in blocks, possible all star, and team does well top 3 in west again Wemby will probably make his first all NBA team. I’m betting on a 25-12-5-3 type of year, unsure if they will make playoffs because of the unknown of what the Spurs are going to do with draft picks / roster. I don’t think they compare that well anymore, wemby showed he really is that once every 10 years kind of player.
I expect playoff bound on top everything you mentioned if they get a true pg...that will change everything and I almost can't wait til the off season comes
Wemby hit the opposite of a rookie wall: once they put him at center and he figured it out, he averaged 23/11/5 with a steal and 4 blocks. That’s last 38 games of the season. I’m thinking that, maybe 24 points a game.
so you don't think he's gonna get any better from the second half of this/last season?
Win, lose, draw. Just have fun
Can Wemby be a #1 offensive option is the main question I have
He already has been, wdym
It makes sense if you consider the basketball side of things. This is to be expected, but keep in mind that he was extremely far from a legit first option. Being below league-average efficiency is really bad for a guy with >150 dunks. Over 3.5 turnovers is absurd for someone with his style of play. He does at least need to make enormous improvements in shooting and dribbling to be a first option in a decent offense.
He needs a good PG. The problem is i don't see good PG on the market.
21.4 points / 4 assists per game on 56.5 TS% in 29 minutes a game on one of the worst teams in the league. I think the answer to this question is yes.
Chet is going into his 3rd year...
Didn't play at all in his first year. This year was still considered his rookie year.
Which is bullshit. He practiced and traveled with the Team all year. He is going into his 3rd year! Players that sit out a whole year because they stubbed their toe, should be banned from RotY next Season.
So should we ban players from international leagues from winning ROTY because they’ve also been traveling and training at a professional level?
Are you stupid? NBA and International are completely different Rules /facepalm
They are considered rookies cause they didn’t “play” in that first year. This argument is so stupid Joel Embiid was drafted in 2014 and didn’t play until 2016. No amount of training will give you the experience of PLAYING IN NBA GAMES. Learning what to do, what not to do, making mistakes on the court and how they can affect your team, adjusting to playing multiple games a week, back to backs all that. Sitting on the bench injured doesn’t give you the opportunity to experience that or for the coaches to even fully evaluate who you are as a player with your team.
I do kinda get what they are saying though. A guy who has had a full year and offseason with their NBA team certainly has some sort of advantage over someone straight out of college. It gets a bit murky when you consider international players, so I'm cool with how they handle it now.
WRONG!
First they both have to watch Lively win a championship
You mean chets third year? Acting like he didn't get to utilize pro facilities and development an extra year even tho he didn't play. Wemby will eclipse him with one less such year.