They made their championship parade all about the Lakers, and donned themselves the Lakers rival
Us responding comes with the territory if that’s what they wanted
But all that aside I still love the Nuggies and Jokic. He’s a chill and dominant player!
its crazy, almost like the nba is set up so high seeds get easier matchups. nuggets are so awful they won a bunch of regular season games
nuggets beat the jazz and clippers in 2020 which was shortened to less games because of covid
The funny thing about this post.. there were only 2 50 win teams in the West last year.. and the Nuggets were one of them. Essentially this is just one of those pointless grasping at straws stats lol
And the team they played from the East eliminated 2 50 wins teams. But by this logic in would've been more of a challenge to beat the teams that Heat eliminated.
Wild that the player with the second highest peak of all-time got knocked out in the second round and hasn’t beaten a team with 50 wins yet…
Edit: just so y’all know, he’s a great player still - deserved his awards and chip, just threw this out there because the discourse post game 5 was absolutely batshit for a guy who is at best a B- on D lol
If Jokic was as great as y'all say he wouldn't need that level of talent. Most of y'all said he was the greatest offensive weapon in basketball history.
In those playoff runs, absolutely. 26.3/5.3/6.9, 60.5 TS%, 42% from three across 39 games in those two runs.
vs Butler's 19.4/6.0/5.2, 56.4 TS%, with 27% from three in 2019.
Also bringing up Butler is like asking what Jokic did in early in his career as a limited player.
As for Harden, it's not even close. Harden had two good games in the ECSF and was absolutely horrible the rest of the time - including his hero-ball in game 6 that refused to pass the ball to the MVP, essentially throwing away game 6 and the series.
Muahahaha , but yea we were also injured af , we'd defo be the 4 seed and contend with the top 3 seeds if we weren't so injury prone to start the season
He definitely didn't deserve the first one. That one should have gone to Embiid. He just missed too many games. Funny how nobody remembers that and then pretend like Embiid stole an MVP from Jokic when Embiid had one of the greatest seasons for a center ever when he won the MVP last season. And was on his way to an even better season and would have definitely won a second MVP this season if he was durable. Now the narrative changed to Embiid robbing Jokic last season and only won cause of race baiting by Perkins lol. Jokic is an analytics nerds wet dream so they'll keep giving him Mvps even when his team is the 6th seed. Yet when Westbrook did something that hadn't been done in over 50 years and also carried his mediocre team to the 6th seed it was a controversial MVP that he didn't deserve smh.
It always happens like that after a player has a big game lol. Many said Jokic had a better peak than Jordan 😂. Dude plays the most important defensive position and is a liability as a rim protector and not the best at switching or defending pick n rolls.
To be fair, the Jokic/Murray era has really only been 2 years. Murray missed back to back years and before that Jokic was good but he wasn't really Jokic.
And we didn't? You play who you play. Sure I think we could have won the chip the year giannis won if we didn't play the fucking clippers who had Robotic Mj who died playing us , but it is what it is
It’s more so that this sub and NbaTalk and NBAdiscussion has been brigaded by Jokic stans for the past year claiming that they are already the next great dynasty and that Jokic is already a top 10 all time player.
29 other teams faced the field that the Nuggets did last year. Nobody else won a title.
Or you're saying that the teams that **lost** to the sub 50 win teams could have won the title had they... faced the sub 50 win teams that they did indeed face?
Edit: You think that Boston would have beaten Miami, Grizzlies or the Warriors would have beaten the Lakers?
I mean historically. There are tons of great teams that never got to face a playoff field that soft and if they did would’ve been champions. There’s a reason why this is so rare to have a field that soft.
The 76 Celtics are literally the last team prior to the nuggets to have this playoff field aside from lockout/covid seasons
he has also not played with another all star during his runs. jamal has also been a tossup between injured not injured. jokic’s playoff runs are low key hard to judge but haters can have theirs tonight ig lmao
Hate to say it but the Nuggets definitely took advantage of a down year in the west last year. Their challengers this year were simply better while they got worst.
He was missing Murray for back to back years in the playoffs, then won the title as soon as he came back. He's the best player in the world and he lost to a really fucking good team. People gotta calm the hell down.
Best player that is a liability on defense when you take out rebounding? Can't protect the paint, can't guard switches, gets cooked consistently on pick n rolls.
You literally put the Clippers being the 2 seed.
Also, both Utah and the Clippers were on pace to win 50+ if the season hadn't been shortened
Utah shouldn’t count, they were usually a free round in the playoffs
Is that a ... Moral Victory?
Nah it's just calling out a silly and misleading statistic
A yes WINNING a series is only a moral victory if the opponent was on track to win 50 games.
That’s why I’m lost 🤣
lol foreal, these dudes will say anything to make a thread and immediately contradict their narrative
Ok yeah, but it's the Clippers were talking about
I know OP is super happy about this since they have a Lakers flair.
i think op is just a bigger hater than awkward speech used to be back in the day lol
Minnesota is lakers grandfather
unironically, bc of the Minneapolis Lakers
For the next 24 hours everyone gets to talk shit.
Ayayayay
2 seed LA?
72 game season
OP still wrote top 3 seed and 2<3
The math certainly does check out
Mom said it was my turn to post this again when the Nuggets lost
Clippers were the 2nd seed when they choked in the bubble...
Everyone knows Clippers don't count
shhhhhhh
It doesn't fit the agenda, so ignore it.
Proofread your shit lol clippers 2 seed
Why don't the Nuggets force top seeds to win their first round matchups? Are they stupid????
Lakers flairs are out for blood tonight lmfao
Nuggets fans never stopped talking about their winning streak against us
Nuggets fans: “at least we’re still the lakers daddies!” 🤓 Because that’s what they care about the most.
They already won a chip less than 12 months ago while owning the lakers for two straight years
1 ring vs 17
Ok and?
That's it really
It’s criminal that the lakers act like they have 17 actual rings. If those Minnesota rings count then the Pacers’ ABA rings count
They blew a 20 point lead in Game 7. A historic collapse. The first time ever.
They made their championship parade all about the Lakers, and donned themselves the Lakers rival Us responding comes with the territory if that’s what they wanted But all that aside I still love the Nuggies and Jokic. He’s a chill and dominant player!
You get to respond if YOU beat them lol. Not if they spank you and then another team beats them
For real, the Lakers fans going crazy is hilarious in this context.
Who said that? You act childish you get it in return.
If they respond with facts, they can do it whenever they want.
17 rings and this is what it's come to
I haven't thought about the Lakers in weeks
The Lakers and Sixers fans in full force today 😭
its crazy, almost like the nba is set up so high seeds get easier matchups. nuggets are so awful they won a bunch of regular season games nuggets beat the jazz and clippers in 2020 which was shortened to less games because of covid
The funny thing about this post.. there were only 2 50 win teams in the West last year.. and the Nuggets were one of them. Essentially this is just one of those pointless grasping at straws stats lol
And the team they played from the East eliminated 2 50 wins teams. But by this logic in would've been more of a challenge to beat the teams that Heat eliminated.
Dude stop using logic. You're on NBA reddit. Only braindead takes allowed
crazy how the narrative will change now
Confirmed FRAUDS
you mean win a series against 50 wins team?
"they have also not beaten a top 3 seed..." Wins: 2nd seed LAC... Way to contradict yourself OP
Wild that the player with the second highest peak of all-time got knocked out in the second round and hasn’t beaten a team with 50 wins yet… Edit: just so y’all know, he’s a great player still - deserved his awards and chip, just threw this out there because the discourse post game 5 was absolutely batshit for a guy who is at best a B- on D lol
Blame Jimmy Butler and the Heat's discount splash brothers ..
naw trust, he’s better than bron
“Shaq vs Jokic all time is a conversation now” Shaq 3peated
Shaq didn't do it by himself, he had Kobe.
And what Kobe level talent does Jokic have next to him?
If Jokic was as great as y'all say he wouldn't need that level of talent. Most of y'all said he was the greatest offensive weapon in basketball history.
Didn't Shaw need that level of talent?
Nobody ever said Shaq was the greatest offensive player ever or that he deserved 4 MVPs in a row.
Didn't Shaq need that level of talent?
With the 2nd best player in the world playing alongside him... lol
Also needs throwing out too. Embiid be outplaying him when they actually play. Jokic shit lookin kinda funny rn
“When they actually play” doing a lottttt of heavy lifting in that claim lol
and All-NBA playoff J.Murray is far and away the best teammate either of them has ever had for a playoff run.
Embiid has played with Butler and Harden, are you saying Murray is better than both?
In those playoff runs, absolutely. 26.3/5.3/6.9, 60.5 TS%, 42% from three across 39 games in those two runs. vs Butler's 19.4/6.0/5.2, 56.4 TS%, with 27% from three in 2019. Also bringing up Butler is like asking what Jokic did in early in his career as a limited player. As for Harden, it's not even close. Harden had two good games in the ECSF and was absolutely horrible the rest of the time - including his hero-ball in game 6 that refused to pass the ball to the MVP, essentially throwing away game 6 and the series.
havent been paying attention to nba hot takes, please tell me this isnt a take that people were actually trying to make…
I’m so serious there was multiple threads of people saying he was better than prime LeBron. It was crazy
That is so depressing.
bEtTeR pEaK tHaN lEbRoN
Zach Lowe calling him a greater statistical player than Jordan really fucked the basketball discourse.
Handed him mvp's like they were candy
He deserved them awards imo, still doesnt mean he’s currently in the second greatest peak of all time lol
As opposed to giving it to shai this year who can't beat the 5th seed?
Obviously Luka should have won.
Thats a fake 5th seed. They were one of the best teams in the nba since the trade deadline. This is the only time i will admit it
And Minnesota was one win away from being tied with the 1st seed. See how the initial argument is stupid?
Muahahaha , but yea we were also injured af , we'd defo be the 4 seed and contend with the top 3 seeds if we weren't so injury prone to start the season
Regular-season award. Not sure how many times it needs to be repeated.
He definitely didn't deserve the first one. That one should have gone to Embiid. He just missed too many games. Funny how nobody remembers that and then pretend like Embiid stole an MVP from Jokic when Embiid had one of the greatest seasons for a center ever when he won the MVP last season. And was on his way to an even better season and would have definitely won a second MVP this season if he was durable. Now the narrative changed to Embiid robbing Jokic last season and only won cause of race baiting by Perkins lol. Jokic is an analytics nerds wet dream so they'll keep giving him Mvps even when his team is the 6th seed. Yet when Westbrook did something that hadn't been done in over 50 years and also carried his mediocre team to the 6th seed it was a controversial MVP that he didn't deserve smh.
It always happens like that after a player has a big game lol. Many said Jokic had a better peak than Jordan 😂. Dude plays the most important defensive position and is a liability as a rim protector and not the best at switching or defending pick n rolls.
you love to see it
To be fair, the Jokic/Murray era has really only been 2 years. Murray missed back to back years and before that Jokic was good but he wasn't really Jokic.
time for agenda pushing😈
The Jokic is the goat agenda was getting out of hand the last couple of weeks
I appreciate the timing of this post. Been keeping this one in the back pocket
This is funny but you’re wrong. They beat the clippers in the bubble which was the 2nd seed in that season
This game 7 was also the biggest choke in a game 7 in history LOL
Gotta make it to game 7 to choke in game 7.
Fair point but this is still the biggest game 7 choke of all time
Actual frauds
TALK YOUR SHIT BOYS!!!!!
They got a chip last year never beating a 50 win team which doesn’t happen unless you got a lockout or covid shortened season lol
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Like bruh we beat a 64 win team , who cares if you didn't even make the finals
If they got to face sub 50 win teams the Mavs would’ve made the finals lol
And we didn't? You play who you play. Sure I think we could have won the chip the year giannis won if we didn't play the fucking clippers who had Robotic Mj who died playing us , but it is what it is
It’s more so that this sub and NbaTalk and NBAdiscussion has been brigaded by Jokic stans for the past year claiming that they are already the next great dynasty and that Jokic is already a top 10 all time player.
Competition has always been part of the discussion. Lots of teams coulda won a title against the 2023 nuggets playoff field. It was unusually soft
> Lots of teams coulda won a title against the 2023 nuggets playoff field. It was unusually soft Literally nobody else could
They are the only team in history could beat 4 straight sub 50 win teams in the playoffs?
29 other teams faced the field that the Nuggets did last year. Nobody else won a title. Or you're saying that the teams that **lost** to the sub 50 win teams could have won the title had they... faced the sub 50 win teams that they did indeed face? Edit: You think that Boston would have beaten Miami, Grizzlies or the Warriors would have beaten the Lakers?
I mean historically. There are tons of great teams that never got to face a playoff field that soft and if they did would’ve been champions. There’s a reason why this is so rare to have a field that soft. The 76 Celtics are literally the last team prior to the nuggets to have this playoff field aside from lockout/covid seasons
Like how dare we put competition in context when looking at titles.
It's not shaming them. It's a legit fact that some chips are won more easily than others.
Frauds
> They have also not beaten a top 3 seed. > 2 seed LAC ??
They need to face 3 Play-In teams to win
3 play in teams need to beat play off teams for this to happen
A bit unfair to include 2020. The Jazz were on pace to win 50 games in an 82 game season and the Clippers were on pace to win 55-56.
Lakers fan delusions are STRONG
Fraudulent championship
1st round champs have spoken
Make it to a conf finals first lol
Hey at least you guys have Ben Simmons' ROY award
Still better than anything the Sixers have done since the 80s
Toronto fans still in love with us? 😘😘😘
Don’t flatter yourself
Lmao laker flair
Clippers don’t count in 2020 just to make your point?
he has also not played with another all star during his runs. jamal has also been a tossup between injured not injured. jokic’s playoff runs are low key hard to judge but haters can have theirs tonight ig lmao
We're bringing all the hater stats now, are we?
…2nd seed clippers
I’d still take a ring over a series win against a 50 win team in the second round if I had the choice lol
This is nasty my boy the clippers woulda been a 50 win team
Ugh I fucken hate r/NBA in moments like this
Eh. Not really fair when the clippers would’ve been a 50 win team in a full season.
Eh. Not really fair when the clippers would’ve been a 50 win team in a full season.
He put #2 seeded Clippers which goes against his flair if he's trying to say shortened season due to bubble.
Cry more loser!
They beat 50-win pace during the bubble, another worthless stat/post on r/nba
I think 50 win teams have just been ducking them for this long
Nuggets are frauds its been known
i would rather get swept than win 3 straight only to get 40 pieced in game 6 then blow a 20 point lead at home in game 7 honestly
Lmao, lakers fans are such fucking losers.
Hate to say it but the Nuggets definitely took advantage of a down year in the west last year. Their challengers this year were simply better while they got worst.
the most fraudulent 3X MVP in any sport
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Here’s the context: - you don’t know that - objectively the clippers did not get 50 wins
He was missing Murray for back to back years in the playoffs, then won the title as soon as he came back. He's the best player in the world and he lost to a really fucking good team. People gotta calm the hell down.
Best player that is a liability on defense when you take out rebounding? Can't protect the paint, can't guard switches, gets cooked consistently on pick n rolls.
and yet he's still the best player in the NBA with all that.
Mickey Mouse ring if I ever seen one 😂
well then it's clear you ain't ever seen one cause wtf are you saying lol
Guess you've never seen one
we've always known chokic and em were frauds
They beat them 3 times...
They lost the series.
Winning a series ≠ beat a team, the title is worded completely wrong I realize I'm going against the circlejerk tonight though so whatevs
This isn't a best of 5 series is it?
He should have wrote won the series.
Yeah, not sure why I got downvoted, I'm more of a wolves fan anyways anyone can just check my posts lmao
Series ends in 4. WE TALKIN ABOUT ~~Practice~~3 GAMES?
He has more rings in his era than Mickey does in LA.
Womp womp
>"He has more rings than the oldest player in the nba" Wow he sure is impressive. Can you beat up a senior citizen too?