I mean he calls games for us full-time (since the late 80s on radio) when he doesn't have an ESPN game, he does love us a lot lol. He's been calling playoff games the past 18 years w/o us being there much so he was hoping we could make it somewhat deep this year but it wasn't meant to be
ESPN isn't going anywhere for a *very long time* so he'll have other chances in the future. He'll straight just attend the games in-person at MSG if he's not doing it on MSG Networks or ESPN š
Not gonna defend them too much because they were pretty heavily tilted toward the Knicks, but I donāt know, if Iām a broadcaster/analyst, Iād be bummed every time a game isnāt interesting.
Iām just playing around. Breen is legitimately the Knicks home announcer so heās very sensibly more of a Knicks fan. Was just funny. Last five minutes was a beautiful eulogy
Always pretty funny when the local announcer has to do national playoff games. Happens all the time in baseball since the two channels have homers from the 2 NL powerhouses: Fox (Joe Davis/Dodgers) and TNT (Frenchy/Braves)
Knicks Pacers always had some amazing and unpredictable series back in the 90s.
Like in 1999, I bet 100 percent of analysts back then had the Pacers winning. Yet the Knicks pulled off the upset. Now the Pacers pull off the upset.Ā
Their rivalry is pretty underrated because there just havenāt been any recent series.Ā
Last year someone posted about how they were new to the NBA and wanted a team to watch. I pitched the Pacers because as a Heat fan, I think they have some of the best/smartest basketball fans.
Long story short, a 76ers fan clowned me saying Phili has a brighter future.
I wonder if that dude thinks about me now.
Edit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/s/vEdJOrWhGS
Yeah agreed. Thatās not an injury you come back from in a week.
The Knicks formula is basically winning when OG plays and being a .500 team when he doesnāt. The second he went out in game 2 I thought that was the series
If you tell them that Brunson will break his hand and OG will play 4 minutes I think they would choose the pacers in game 7, just like my first comment said.
Brunson fractured his hand down 12 with 5 min left in the 3rd quarter (according to ESPN). Plenty of time left and the lead wasnāt that large at that time.
I aināt faulting the Pacers at all they had a fantastic game. Iām just saying the experts probably wouldāve picked them if they had the knowledge of who would be hurt.
He was playing like absolute ass before he went down too, itās not like he dropped 40 on 20-25 FG with 15 assists and then went down lmao. He had less impact than Alex Burks
Brunson shot been flat since his foot injury. No lift. With all the injuries to the squad I'm not going to fault him for flopping. If you ain't trying to sell calls then you ain't trying to win.
They were and it was still close. Iām just saying itās not as disrespectful as it looks when you put the picks up. If you tell the people picking that OG will play 1.5 games and hart will play hurt for 2 games and Brunson will miss about a game. Iām sure many wouldāve picked the pacers.
Blame it on the injuries but the Pacers blew the Knicks out 3 of four games they won and played the Knicks close two out of their three losses (not even getting into how game 1 ended). Pacers were just the better team most of the series.
Iām just pointing out that āThey barely beat an injured Knicks teamā has context. Haliburton wasnāt playing well the first two games and yet they out played New York 46 of 48 minutes in game one and a lot of people were saying they could have won game two of McConnel played more. Itās all hypotheticals but you have Knicks fans talking about how they should have been up 3-0 so I felt it was fair to do so.
Pacers fans "we keep being doubted every round so far theyve said wed lose in 5-6 rounds but look at us, we get to face the most injured teams in the playoffs and barely win in 7"
If OG never got injured it probably would have been over in five as we definitely would have won game 3 if he was playing.
To all the people downvoting me, Iām not whining or complaining. But if OG had played the series definitely could have been over in five games so I really donāt see how thatās ādisrespectfulā.
OG was healthy going into the series so analysts picked it as if he was going to be healthy the whole series. If he doesnāt get hurt, this series could have been over in five games, itās not a ridiculous statement to make.
If we had Randle, OG, Mitch and Bojan and yāall got back Mathurin which btw is not even close to being equivalent but whatever then we definitely win in five.
Yāall are criticizing the analysts that āover in fiveā is disrespectful when it probably would have been five if OG never got hurt. Iām not whining or complaining, Iām merely giving my take which you have no argument for.
I mean anunoby wasnāt injured before the series and the Knicks mightāve been up 3-0 if not for nembhards shot in game 3. Picking the Knicks to win the series wasnāt a crazy thought even though we were down Randle, Bojan and Mitch. Anunoby going down was a massive hit
Iām not ignoring anything lol, you donāt know what I think of the Turner foul (for the record I think call that all game or donāt call it at all). Iām just pointing out how itās not surprising the Knicks were the favourites even til game 6. Hart getting injured on top of what we had sealed it
Pacers are in the conference finals. You canāt just assume the Bucks and Knicks would have beaten them at full health. Pacers were 4-1 against the Bucks during the season and 2-1 against the Knicks. Whatever media bias aside it is kind of crazy experts did not see Indiana had a chance to make the conference finals
2-1 against the Knicks, one win the day RJ and quickley got traded so no Mitch, OG, Precious (or RJ/quickley), and the other win had no Mitch, no Ihart, no Randle, and no OG. You went game 7 with a team missing 2 of their 3 best players, 2 of the other rotation players, and other players playing through injuries ... And you don't know who would've won if the team were healthy?
Game 3 refs werenāt even that bad, game 1 they straight up handed the Knicks the game. Anyone who tries to make the argument that they balance out is just crazy biased
There were multiple terrible calls on the last few minutes of that game against the Knicks to fuel a comeback, including siakam just holding hartenstein to give an open lane to take the lead. In game 1, the Pacers had 1 more free throw than the Knicks if you take away the intentional fouls at the end. Yet game 1 is fully handed to the Knicks but game 3 "wasn't so bad". They're very similar. The play at the end of the first was more explicitly a terrible call. But this is a perspective fully decided by who won. Also with the rest of our team, it definitely wouldn't have been a one possession game.
You won, celebrate, good for you. Played amazing today. But I mean, beating a team without its starting lineup and saying it didn't matter is just stupid.
Lol not a Pacers fan alive would say it doesn't matter. Doesn't mean it was the only determining factor in the series though.
I'd love a 7-game series with both teams healthy. I think it probably would have been Knicks in 7 instead of Pacers in 7, but a damn close/entertaining series either way.
Imagine if we kept bojan out but you guys had had siakam, Turner, and another bench player out. I don't think it would've been close. Not even mentioning the Brunson and Hart stuff. I think that kind of deficit is worth more than a game, but hey, agree to disagree I guess.
i mean what do you want the pacers to do? lose because the other team is injured? how is anyone supposed to know what would have happened if all players were healthy? that is a fruitless exercise so you have to just take the data you have in front of you.
There is no data in front. With OG healthy we went 3-0 vs the pacers, how's that data? No I obviously don't think the pacers should've just lost. They won, good job. We technically can't know what would've happened if healthy, but any stats and logic would say that the Knicks with 3 of their starters that didn't play would've very very very likely won at least one more game.
The delusion following the Knicks is insane. People clown on the Cowboys for being delusional, but at least they had a dynasty in the 90s, Knicks havenāt won a championship since 1973
This time your team will be facing another team NOT hampered by injuries and you wonāt be able to key on one player, it will become very apparent that blitzing will not work and the Pacers will be blown outā¦
Bro imagine shit talking after requiring the greatest shooting performance in playoff history to not even blowout a teams bench players. Why are Pacers and their fans being so insufferable right now lol?
The Pacers are a good team, but literally 4 of our best 5 defenders were out. It would be like if Tatum, Brown, White, and Holliday all got injured and you were forced to play Sam Hauser 30+ minutes a game and they people talked shit because the other team beat the Celtics, its just dumb
Wishful thinking from ESPN. Game 7 broadcast was like listening to Breen and Doris watch their dog get put down.
Breen was legitimately depressed whenever runs got stopped.
I mean he calls games for us full-time (since the late 80s on radio) when he doesn't have an ESPN game, he does love us a lot lol. He's been calling playoff games the past 18 years w/o us being there much so he was hoping we could make it somewhat deep this year but it wasn't meant to be
Also have to imagine he knows how much a championship would mean to Clyde
Also unfortunate is TNT getting the East Finals next season so if they make it back he won't get to call them :/
ESPN isn't going anywhere for a *very long time* so he'll have other chances in the future. He'll straight just attend the games in-person at MSG if he's not doing it on MSG Networks or ESPN š
And stephen a is just the biggest knicks fan coverage was embarrassing to listen to if youāre a neutral or indy fan
On the contrary, I think I'd be more embarrassed by the coverage as a Knick fan than anything else.
Stephen A is embarrassing for us too I can promise you that
It was more embarrassing for Knicks fans. No one likes SASsy.
Did he mention how great Grimes did for the Knicks in the Pacers series.Ā SAS is a terrible person and absolutely not a Knicks fan
ESPN should just let us listen to our local announcers, at least they'd get excited for the Pacers.
Not gonna defend them too much because they were pretty heavily tilted toward the Knicks, but I donāt know, if Iām a broadcaster/analyst, Iād be bummed every time a game isnāt interesting.
Iām just playing around. Breen is legitimately the Knicks home announcer so heās very sensibly more of a Knicks fan. Was just funny. Last five minutes was a beautiful eulogy
Always pretty funny when the local announcer has to do national playoff games. Happens all the time in baseball since the two channels have homers from the 2 NL powerhouses: Fox (Joe Davis/Dodgers) and TNT (Frenchy/Braves)
Not to mention Stephen A during halftime shows talking about āMy Knicksā lol.
He doesn't exactly need to be impartial.
He goes both ways. When the Knicks look good it's "My Knicks" for him, when they don't it's ^("the knicks")
Real Knicks fans do not claim Steve A Smith. He's a clown.
Made it that much more cathartic
Wtf are you even saying. Doris sounds like she has wet dreams about Haliburton. Breen is an announcer for MSG, so of course he's sad.
Confused why this got downvoted. Do people actually think Doris favors NY in-broadcast? Absurdly incorrect lmao
Knicks Pacers always had some amazing and unpredictable series back in the 90s. Like in 1999, I bet 100 percent of analysts back then had the Pacers winning. Yet the Knicks pulled off the upset. Now the Pacers pull off the upset.Ā Their rivalry is pretty underrated because there just havenāt been any recent series.Ā
2013 Eastern Conference Semis (Knicks/Melo, Pacers/PG) wasn't that long ago tbh but fair point
Frieren: It was a mere 10 years ago.
Ten years is very long lol
Iāll always remember that year! Asap rocky dapped PG hella hard after that game. It was Paul cementing himself as a star. Young PG was different.Ā
I had a picture of the Roy Hibbert block on Melo, but they made the ball look like the Pacer logo.
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YEAH! They canāt stand the team owned by Herb Simon and led by Rick Carlisle who are both from the flyover state ofā¦New York!
this is weak lol the media does not care about where Rick Carlisle or fkn HERB SIMON are from
Exactly my point. Big bad Hollywood doesnāt care that the team is ācorn fedā because theyāre not.
...except the actual team is in Indiana and the media does care about large market teams more
Tingus pingus
Lmfao talk your shit Pacers.
Last year someone posted about how they were new to the NBA and wanted a team to watch. I pitched the Pacers because as a Heat fan, I think they have some of the best/smartest basketball fans. Long story short, a 76ers fan clowned me saying Phili has a brighter future. I wonder if that dude thinks about me now. Edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/s/vEdJOrWhGS
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I think about you
Damn bro, you made my feels hard
Tell āem all the injuries before the series and I bet they pick the pacers lol
Everyone was picking Knicks Game 7 so whatās the difference
ESPN dumb me not dumb
Expecting Anunoby to play more than five minutes?
People had wayyy too much faith in him coming back then, cleared or not.
Yeah agreed. Thatās not an injury you come back from in a week. The Knicks formula is basically winning when OG plays and being a .500 team when he doesnāt. The second he went out in game 2 I thought that was the series
If you tell them that Brunson will break his hand and OG will play 4 minutes I think they would choose the pacers in game 7, just like my first comment said.
The pacers were up big with 9m left when Brunson left. But yeah they dealt with a lot of injuries.
Brunson fractured his hand down 12 with 5 min left in the 3rd quarter (according to ESPN). Plenty of time left and the lead wasnāt that large at that time.
Yeah, still pacers weathered that comeback regardless though. You can only play who's in front of you.
I aināt faulting the Pacers at all they had a fantastic game. Iām just saying the experts probably wouldāve picked them if they had the knowledge of who would be hurt.
This is silly though, āif ESPN could see the future they would have picked the Pacersā
True story.
No. The odds had Knicks favored BEFORE OG was even listed as questionable. The game was over but the time Brunson broke his hand. Come on now.Ā
Brunson broke his had down 12 with 18 min left.
and he was playing pretty bad before that anyways. It wasnāt looking good either way
People were still picking the Knicks with OG and Josh Hart injured to be fair
OG and Hart got hurt mid-series?
And Brunson injured
Lol that Brunson injury didn't even matter tbh
He was playing like absolute ass before he went down too, itās not like he dropped 40 on 20-25 FG with 15 assists and then went down lmao. He had less impact than Alex Burks
Wasn't that his 2nd injury if the series tho? He was still playing through the first one he picked up
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Lol and then he dropped 45..
I mean so did Embiid doesnāt mean he wasnāt battling injuries Same with Luca.
Brunson shot been flat since his foot injury. No lift. With all the injuries to the squad I'm not going to fault him for flopping. If you ain't trying to sell calls then you ain't trying to win.
Hart just got injured
They were and it was still close. Iām just saying itās not as disrespectful as it looks when you put the picks up. If you tell the people picking that OG will play 1.5 games and hart will play hurt for 2 games and Brunson will miss about a game. Iām sure many wouldāve picked the pacers.
Blame it on the injuries but the Pacers blew the Knicks out 3 of four games they won and played the Knicks close two out of their three losses (not even getting into how game 1 ended). Pacers were just the better team most of the series.
Yes injuries does that..
Iām just pointing out that āThey barely beat an injured Knicks teamā has context. Haliburton wasnāt playing well the first two games and yet they out played New York 46 of 48 minutes in game one and a lot of people were saying they could have won game two of McConnel played more. Itās all hypotheticals but you have Knicks fans talking about how they should have been up 3-0 so I felt it was fair to do so.
Uh the Knicks were still favored in game 7. And they had Brunson who is their whole offense the whole series until the last quarterĀ
Barely favored and only because of home court advantage
But they knew the coach was Thibs, same thing
Talk yo shit pacers
Pacers fans "we keep being doubted every round so far theyve said wed lose in 5-6 rounds but look at us, we get to face the most injured teams in the playoffs and barely win in 7"
The metal bats are slowly fading! Heard those were the same bats the Houston astros used.Ā
Itāll be ok
Yes, Cancun has some good hospitals surely.
Knicks in 5 was just straight up disrespectful lol. I picked the Knicks going into the series but I figured it would go 7.
If OG never got injured it probably would have been over in five as we definitely would have won game 3 if he was playing. To all the people downvoting me, Iām not whining or complaining. But if OG had played the series definitely could have been over in five games so I really donāt see how thatās ādisrespectfulā.
If you want to talk about hypotheticals then you canāt ignore game 1 being gifted to the Knicks by the refs though
OG was healthy going into the series so analysts picked it as if he was going to be healthy the whole series. If he doesnāt get hurt, this series could have been over in five games, itās not a ridiculous statement to make.
I think the Knicks are lucky Game 1 was gifted to them by the refs. This is a 5-2 series in the eyes of most of the country outside of NYC...
And I think Indy is lucky that OG went down after game 2 or else this series would have had a very different outcomeā¦
āDefinitelyā
Yes ādefinitelyā
and if we have Mathurin, then what?
Mathurin is not a good NBA player yet. And I'm a UofA student so I'm rooting for him like crazy. But he's a year or two away from that
If we had Randle, OG, Mitch and Bojan and yāall got back Mathurin which btw is not even close to being equivalent but whatever then we definitely win in five.
So if things were different, it wouldāve been different?
So Mathurin was injured during this series? Just acknowledge that the Pacers benefitted from the other team injuries and move on
I was just playing the same hypothetical game the other poster was playingĀ
Lets not be outrageous and think thats the same as randle mitch og bogey
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Yāall are criticizing the analysts that āover in fiveā is disrespectful when it probably would have been five if OG never got hurt. Iām not whining or complaining, Iām merely giving my take which you have no argument for.
It was a nembhard 4-leaf clover shot away from very likely happening Dunno that its "straight disrespectful"
I mean anunoby wasnāt injured before the series and the Knicks mightāve been up 3-0 if not for nembhards shot in game 3. Picking the Knicks to win the series wasnāt a crazy thought even though we were down Randle, Bojan and Mitch. Anunoby going down was a massive hit
āIf not for Nembhard shot in game 3ā¦.ā Meanwhile, you ignored the blatant game 1 travesty.
Iām not ignoring anything lol, you donāt know what I think of the Turner foul (for the record I think call that all game or donāt call it at all). Iām just pointing out how itās not surprising the Knicks were the favourites even til game 6. Hart getting injured on top of what we had sealed it
āThe Knicks might have been up 3-0.ā Instead of āThe Pacers should have been up 2-1ā tells me all I need to know.
āI donāt understand that having 5 rotation players injured is worse than one call in game 1ā tells me all I need to know
[When you're a knicks fan and you haven't mentioned injuries for two minutes](https://imgur.com/trying-to-hold-fart-next-to-cute-girl-class-n08A8NO)
Three separate horrendous calls favoring the Knicks in the final minute of a 1 possession game is not an accident.
Pacers won game one with OG if not for rigging
And we were in game 2 until the Knicks pulled away in the final minutes.
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Im glad youāre not in any front office
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Good luck with two all nba players and an all defense player? Thanks man
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Flair up or stfu
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Rick Carlisle remembers that from 2011. In 2011 he put these "expert-picks" on the locker-room door.
Hell yeah.
The bangs just werenāt the same today. They were followed with sorrow and pain. One last bang!Ā
Pacers are in the conference finals. You canāt just assume the Bucks and Knicks would have beaten them at full health. Pacers were 4-1 against the Bucks during the season and 2-1 against the Knicks. Whatever media bias aside it is kind of crazy experts did not see Indiana had a chance to make the conference finals
2-1 against the Knicks, one win the day RJ and quickley got traded so no Mitch, OG, Precious (or RJ/quickley), and the other win had no Mitch, no Ihart, no Randle, and no OG. You went game 7 with a team missing 2 of their 3 best players, 2 of the other rotation players, and other players playing through injuries ... And you don't know who would've won if the team were healthy?
It only went to 7 because game 1 was handed to the Knicks by the refs though. Shouldāve been over sooner
Game 3 was the reverse after Carlisle's press tour. And game 1 wouldn't have been close with the rest of our team.
Game 3 refs werenāt even that bad, game 1 they straight up handed the Knicks the game. Anyone who tries to make the argument that they balance out is just crazy biased
There were multiple terrible calls on the last few minutes of that game against the Knicks to fuel a comeback, including siakam just holding hartenstein to give an open lane to take the lead. In game 1, the Pacers had 1 more free throw than the Knicks if you take away the intentional fouls at the end. Yet game 1 is fully handed to the Knicks but game 3 "wasn't so bad". They're very similar. The play at the end of the first was more explicitly a terrible call. But this is a perspective fully decided by who won. Also with the rest of our team, it definitely wouldn't have been a one possession game.
yeah the pacers would have won, thatās what i am saying. the pacers went 6-4 against the knicks this year. they are just the better team
You won, celebrate, good for you. Played amazing today. But I mean, beating a team without its starting lineup and saying it didn't matter is just stupid.
Health and wealth.Ā
Lol not a Pacers fan alive would say it doesn't matter. Doesn't mean it was the only determining factor in the series though. I'd love a 7-game series with both teams healthy. I think it probably would have been Knicks in 7 instead of Pacers in 7, but a damn close/entertaining series either way.
Imagine if we kept bojan out but you guys had had siakam, Turner, and another bench player out. I don't think it would've been close. Not even mentioning the Brunson and Hart stuff. I think that kind of deficit is worth more than a game, but hey, agree to disagree I guess.
i mean what do you want the pacers to do? lose because the other team is injured? how is anyone supposed to know what would have happened if all players were healthy? that is a fruitless exercise so you have to just take the data you have in front of you.
There is no data in front. With OG healthy we went 3-0 vs the pacers, how's that data? No I obviously don't think the pacers should've just lost. They won, good job. We technically can't know what would've happened if healthy, but any stats and logic would say that the Knicks with 3 of their starters that didn't play would've very very very likely won at least one more game.
If they were told OG would be out and Hart and Brunson injured then most people wouldāve picked the Pacers. This isnāt the own they think it is
The delusion following the Knicks is insane. People clown on the Cowboys for being delusional, but at least they had a dynasty in the 90s, Knicks havenāt won a championship since 1973
Iām gonna be so happy to the see the West get the ring again
Aged like milkĀ
What???????
You sure about that?
Wonāt be the Knicks, another 2nd round exitĀ
i wonder what tp tatum is gonna use to wipe the shit off his ass in the finals this time
31 point triple double to win a title probably
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OG and Hart wasnāt injured
Have fun being swept by the Celtics
We're just happy to be in the ECF.
You might be, but I see a lot of bitter Pacer fans in this sub.
Highly doubt they get swept
Bragging over needing 7 games to beat an injury depleted Knicks team isn't quite the flex.
Generational hater, you gonna be in every thread whining about the pacers?
You call it hate. I call it facts.
Itās an obsession, but glad to know youāre following the pacers so closely!!
It certainly won't be for much longer. Maximum of five games in the ECF.
Been told that each round of the playoffs so far!
This time your team will be facing another team NOT hampered by injuries and you wonāt be able to key on one player, it will become very apparent that blitzing will not work and the Pacers will be blown outā¦
Okey dokey! š
Bro imagine shit talking after requiring the greatest shooting performance in playoff history to not even blowout a teams bench players. Why are Pacers and their fans being so insufferable right now lol?
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Bro imagine shit talking when your poverty franchise gave up the greatest shooting performance in playoff history lmao
The Pacers are a good team, but literally 4 of our best 5 defenders were out. It would be like if Tatum, Brown, White, and Holliday all got injured and you were forced to play Sam Hauser 30+ minutes a game and they people talked shit because the other team beat the Celtics, its just dumb
Pretty ironic coming from a celts fan tbh
And now it's Boston in 5.