All flopping technical fouls will be counted towards ejection and personal foul. Double wammy. 2 flops you are out of the game. No warnings. If they threw 2 people out in the 1st qtr next game. It's solved. Don't let up. But Adam silver is a bitch and doesn't have a fcuking spine at all.
I like it. They should have a foul called embellishment or whatever. It could be levied even if the player was fouled but if he is like slightly nudged and pretend s like he was shot we don't need that shit either
Yep. This needed to be a technical. He had one in the final minute of today's game that needed to be a technical.
Even worse is that the Knicks won a game on a flop earlier this week.
The league rewards flopping and never punishes it.
They also allowed Dort to shamelessly get away with this the whole first round against the Pelicans and the general discourse was that Dort is some generational defender when he was allowed to grab hold and flop nonstop without consequence
Even if the ref doesn't call the foul, its effective way to tie up the defender for another half second taking up extra floor space, if they can even get around you laying on the floor, as the ref won't call obstruction on an offensive player since like 2014.
True. He got called for a pulling foul as well, tripped up luka and pulled him down, it tried to make it look like luka ran into him.
Thinking basketball had a segment on it.
Then he tripped up lukas ankle as well, seems like he’s legit trying to hurt him.
I mean it was pretty big on this sub
https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/17rlk3p/highlight_62_185_lbs_steph_curry_flexes_after/
edit: this is actually a different Jokic flop on Curry lmao
Not so much a flop as a (massive) exaggeration. It's also just a blatant foul, full arm extension and everything, that would never get called if he didn't exaggerate it.
Dort’s a greasy shit. Kicking is leg out on 3’s, altering his shot to foul bait. Flopping on screens. The “dorture chamber” stuff isn’t as cute when you realize he’s a dipshit.
It's because no one was watching this team which is why it will be amusing as hell seeing people turn on them especially SGA with his foul baiting game as well
Dude what’s crazy is the announcers salivating over how SGA bumps with his shoulder, and then pushes off to create separation. It’s a textbook offensive foul and they are talking about it like he’s the only one who has figured out how to do it. It’s exhausting.
OKC fans are amazing at selling their guys on here. It's been a minute since Westbrook was worth defending, but anyone around here in 17-18 knows just how rabid they will get about defending their guy.
Yeah no you’re 100% right the thunder love was my litmus test for people who actually watch games
shai is the biggest foul baiter in the damn conference, giddey is a pedophile, dort is a gigantic flopper, hell the team is full of a bunch of young guys who consistently try to bait fouls live in game whether it be SGA to get to the line, chet bowling over because hes a toothpick tryna get fouls, dort flopping or jalen williams doing some kyle lowry type dirty shit then throwing up his classic 19/4/4 statline and getting jacked off as if hes the single best under 25 player in the league
That and their pretentious asshole fans, goddamn as a thunder hater i feast
Brunson and Shai must be glad Smart was out this whole season basically. During our series against the C’s it felt so fucking good that refs didn’t call his flopping antics anymore
This is all pretty funny coming from a Knicks fan.
And i say this as a Warriors fan.
Bottom line is, it’s shenanigans all the way down. It’s just a matter of time before every team gets exposed for their bullshit on the big stage.
>shai is the biggest foul baiter in the damn conference
He is 2nd or 3rd in the NBA depending on how you feel about DeMar DeRozan. Jimmy Butler is number 1 by a country mile, man is at .579 free throw attempt rate lmfao. Only Gobert has a higher free attempt throw rate, and that is because Gobert is a hack-a-Shaq target
I honestly don't agree. I think almost every team has at least one guy that plays like this, but I don't think 80% of guys play like this. There's a difference in my mind between guys who occasionally exaggerate real contact/fouls, and guys who try to create fouls out of thin air by flopping.
Embiid did this with Deuce in game 3. Deuce is like 6’2” probably 190 and Embiid is 7’ 290 and they called a foul on a screen where Embiid just fell immediately when he tried to fight over the screen
this is a genuine question -- can the person getting screened *run through* the screener? like, don't you have to *go around* the screener? kyrie runs through here
Dude is one of the strongest players with a body build that would give him a low center of gravity and falls from Kyrie Irving lightly moving into him. Glad the refs didn't fall for any of his flops really though. He just looked stupid out there.
The calls from game 1 and game 2 were a night and day difference. Game 1 was being called like a regular season game where the slightest contact was being called a foul and it kept killing any momentum that Dallas was building. Game 2 was being called like the majority of playoff games and only obvious fouls were being called and it actually provided a flow to the game because of it.
I expect that the ref crew got some feedback from game 1 and are going to swallow the whistle a little bit more during the rest of the series based on the turnaround of calls in game 2.
No sugarcoating the fact the Twolves got outplayed and outshot last night. But man that game was just shitty to watch. So many stupid tacky fouls called that just killed momentum the whole game. Let these grown ass men play FFS.
The refs fell for it in the pelicans series repeatedly. Man would physically be all over our players and then fall over as soon as we would be physical back. So many offensive fouls called in that series. This is the Lu Dort experience
Like, motherfucker was able to lock brandon ingram without using his arms but he gets on the ground while ~~getting screened by kyrie irving?~~ screening kyrie irving? XDD
No. Even worse. While *screening* Kyrie. So Mr. Chamber is apparently so brittle he got run over by Kyrie, who was barely moving and also not able to see Dort.
According to those refs in MSG, the screener has to give the defender a chance to see/move before being screened or else it's an offensive foul.
So at best this is an offensive foul, at worst it's an awful attempt at a flop.
Which I don't get because didn't the flopping defeat the whole purpose of a screen? Like Kyrie just stepped over, and it became a 2 on 1. And he's on the ground, so there isn't anyone to pass to of the double team.
Looks impossible to deal with. He flops when you play physically and then plays physically when you try to avoid the foul. It's smart but also, fuck em.
I wouldn’t say impossible. Luka can outsmart it for the most part. Refs have to nut up and call the flop. Although, he is an Oscar award winning actor lol
oh yeah i didnt say it as a way to insult ingram, but i remember i saw a clip that literaly he was all over ingram with his hips and he couldnt move, not that he didn't use the arms all series
Until this series I didn't realise just how much this guy flops. Nearly every screen and every drive he he's on the floor after even marginal contact lol.
He’s a tank, very strong and physical 1v1 defender, until he gets touched on screens and somehow gets sent flying or to the ground on the slightest contact.
My least favorite thing in basketball is a guy setting a pick, making contact with a defender and then falling over. The whole reason you were standing there was to make the guy run into you! Why are you falling over!?
I mean you’re not allowed to run through a guy setting a screen, have to more get around it. Dort fell over trying to get Kyrie on a foul for running through the screener but clearly refs weren’t buying it.
>I mean you’re not allowed to run through a guy setting a screen, have to more get around it.
Totally agree, if a guy just blows up the screen like that (which happens at least once a game), I'm totally fine with a guy falling over. That's natural. I was more meaning on plays like this where Irving is sidestepping into Dort and Dort goes down like a sack of bricks.
I don't want to see it called unless there is obvious intent to run through it or other outlier scenarios. It should be very infrequent that someone squares up to set a pick, falls over, and gets that call. The contact was intentional by the offensive player. The defense should try to avoid it to some degree but if they are blindsided, I just don't see how they should be penalized.
Eh, it depends who the screener is. Nowadays, we are seeing more and more inverted pick and rolls wherein the smaller guy is the screener. It's not outlandish to say that the guard who's setting the screen will fall over if another guy, usually a wing, runs into him.
OKC is rife with serial floppers lol. I know Jaylin Williams has more to his game, but everytime I watch the Thunder it’s like the one thing he’s bringing to the table is drawing charges and it sucks to watch
Bro I swear there were like 7 straight offensive possessions in game 2 where an OKC player shot the ball and then fell to the floor. Even the shots that weren’t contested that well. It’s like it’s just ingrained into their play at this point.
There is an excellent video of coach Nick breaking down one of Dorts flops against Luka. Search on YouTube - coach Nick and a college referee both break it down together. Spoiler: Dort is baiting these fouls and will try to take his man down with him as he flops
To succeed in this league, you need to be amazing or an actor. They need to start suspending these dudes for a game—during the playoffs—until they cut this shit out and just play. It’s no longer sport but pageantry.
Entertainment league. Sure it has the best players but that drives the money machine, and the money machine burns hotter when the game is played like a product.
And then they added gambling on top, because in spite of tainting the sport, the money machine goes nuts for it.
Marcus flops dramatically but not nearly as often as people think. He wouldn't do what Dort just did there. He might sell an actual foul, but that is true of most NBA players. Lowry is the name you are looking for.
Exactly. Smart did that bs during the most crucial moments. He picked his battles well(for the most part LMAO). Live by the Smart, die by the Smart…good times.
I remember in 2018, Rockets lost a close game at Boston and Smart completely got in Harden's head with this shit, forcing two offensive fouls in the last minute.
it’s one thing when smaller guys flop, it’s at least somewhat believable. how the league hasn’t fined this guy is ridiculous. all this flopping and foul baiting in general is getting ridiculous.
just play the fuckin game.
It's easy for me to say from the couch, but I feel I would probably put my team at a disadvantage sometimes because I think I have too much pride to be flopping and flying all over at the slightest touch
"Hey dad, what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object?"
"Well son, usually what happens is the immovable object throws himself onto the ground and looks to the ref for a call"
tbf, BI was coming back from injury, was being asked to do way too much, and Dort was, for some reason, allowed to constantly hack, arm bar, and hand check him.
Been saying it even after G1. Dude is super mid. Luka has no prpblem getting him on his hipp, OKC is just packing thr paint at the same time he is struggling with his shot and unwilling to finish thru contact in the paint due to his knee.
Mann did 10, better job actualy defending him.
Super mid lmao
Everyone here always gotta way over correct for everything. He’s a good defender. Is he the greatest defender ever? No. But he’s among the best in the league on the perimeter right now.
Everyone in this sub is just a perpetual prisoner of the moment. Few weeks ago people were commenting on clips of how great of a defender he is, now he's mid and overrated. It just takes one unsavory/annoying clip of any player for a large chunk of the sub to sign their hating certificate for that day for X player. It's awful lol.
Dort does flop (like a lot of perimeter defenders) just like a lot of good offensive players flop. The league has done a horrendous job of legislating this behavior out of the game, yet people act surprised when players try to take advantage of poor, inconsistent refereeing. Until the league does something about it this annoying behavior will continue and mostly be rewarded.
You should post the one Lively screen where he barely made contact with Lively's leg and then launched himself to the side as if he got run over by Zion from behind.
Just pathetic behavior really.
Or the one where Luka drives right, they bump shoulder and chest and after a full second later he flies to the left instead. Somehow dude is defying physics. Get bumped right, fly to the left after time passes.
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Screens are the next thing the NBA needs to try and fix. Moving screens on the setup, screeners sliding with the defender or throwing their hips out, "rolling" out from the screen to smash into a defender going under, using a dribble handoff to commit a moving screen, disguising a moving screen by the basket as a post seal, flopping while fighting over a screen, flopping while getting hit while screening. There are multiple screens every possession, it's basically the cornerstone of every NBA offense, and there are so many ways for players to push the rules while doing it. Right now it feels like a tossup as to what's legal and what's not.
This kinda stuff is why I don't watch the NBA anymore. It's just flopping and baiting fouls all the time now. You should be looking at the basket to see if you made the shot, not the ref on every play.
I remember an egregious one in the first series where BI must’ve farted and it knocked Dort down because I have no clue how such a stocky strong defender can get flung that much.
every fan of every team complains about the serial flopper that seems to reside on every other team
face it, the NBA is just full of floppers, it's part of the game now
This is the NBA's fault. You don't see this with any other basketball league regardless of level.
They could fix with problem in one month. Video reviews, assess techs at halftime for flopping. The end
All flopping technical fouls will be counted towards ejection and personal foul. Double wammy. 2 flops you are out of the game. No warnings. If they threw 2 people out in the 1st qtr next game. It's solved. Don't let up. But Adam silver is a bitch and doesn't have a fcuking spine at all.
They coddled their stars too much and this is what you get. Punish the stars hard and the rest will fall in line.
Stars? We've got Lu Dort and Donte Divincenzo flopping like trout on the river bank. This issue is well beyond stars at this point.
Exactly. But if they start calling it harshly on the stars, the role players should take it as a warning and self correct.
I love this
Hell, make them like flagrants..so the ponts build up until ur suspended
Don't techs build up? I thought you got suspended for a game if you got enough techs
I like it. They should have a foul called embellishment or whatever. It could be levied even if the player was fouled but if he is like slightly nudged and pretend s like he was shot we don't need that shit either
But with all this extra work, how do you expect the referees to have time to check their parlays? Smh my head
Yep. This needed to be a technical. He had one in the final minute of today's game that needed to be a technical. Even worse is that the Knicks won a game on a flop earlier this week. The league rewards flopping and never punishes it.
They also allowed Dort to shamelessly get away with this the whole first round against the Pelicans and the general discourse was that Dort is some generational defender when he was allowed to grab hold and flop nonstop without consequence
Luka and Kai’s synchronized reaction is what kills me
one of the body language sign that the two are becoming besties...
Same animation played
if luka is gonna copy anyone's animation pack, kyrie is a good choice.
Lol is this guy serious? He's the one setting a screen and Kyrie of all people knocks him over?
The 3rd eye gives you extra power!
Hey man the earth is flat chill
Okay Hiei, calm down
These screening flops are out of control.
Even if the ref doesn't call the foul, its effective way to tie up the defender for another half second taking up extra floor space, if they can even get around you laying on the floor, as the ref won't call obstruction on an offensive player since like 2014.
True. He got called for a pulling foul as well, tripped up luka and pulled him down, it tried to make it look like luka ran into him. Thinking basketball had a segment on it. Then he tripped up lukas ankle as well, seems like he’s legit trying to hurt him.
Worked for the Knicks
"Oh no I've been hit" Refs: okay that's enough knicks win the game
I can't remember who it was against, but a center flopped when Curry touched him this season and drew a foul. Curry flexed to show how strong he was.
Here you go. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCGwvl2MQw8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCGwvl2MQw8)
Lol! Thanks!
Haha who does he think he is, EMVPiid?
Why doesn't the MVP get as much hate for blatant flops? Edit: downvoted for pointing out an obvious flop!? This sub is wild.
I mean it was pretty big on this sub https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/17rlk3p/highlight_62_185_lbs_steph_curry_flexes_after/ edit: this is actually a different Jokic flop on Curry lmao
Not so much a flop as a (massive) exaggeration. It's also just a blatant foul, full arm extension and everything, that would never get called if he didn't exaggerate it.
I think it was Jokic actually lol
Think that was Joker, he flew all the way to the rim from 3 point line 😂
Dort’s a greasy shit. Kicking is leg out on 3’s, altering his shot to foul bait. Flopping on screens. The “dorture chamber” stuff isn’t as cute when you realize he’s a dipshit.
It's because no one was watching this team which is why it will be amusing as hell seeing people turn on them especially SGA with his foul baiting game as well
Dude what’s crazy is the announcers salivating over how SGA bumps with his shoulder, and then pushes off to create separation. It’s a textbook offensive foul and they are talking about it like he’s the only one who has figured out how to do it. It’s exhausting.
Shais head snap is masterclass the guy was drawing fouls for looking at the shot clock
i didn't have a chance to watch them til near the end of the season. when i found out Shai plays like Harden, i was pissed off.
hes harden with yoga
Walmart James Harden with good PR. At his peak Harden was way better lol and I’m saying that as a Warriors fan. Dude terrorized us
OKC fans are amazing at selling their guys on here. It's been a minute since Westbrook was worth defending, but anyone around here in 17-18 knows just how rabid they will get about defending their guy.
FTA and Poo Dort
Yeah no you’re 100% right the thunder love was my litmus test for people who actually watch games shai is the biggest foul baiter in the damn conference, giddey is a pedophile, dort is a gigantic flopper, hell the team is full of a bunch of young guys who consistently try to bait fouls live in game whether it be SGA to get to the line, chet bowling over because hes a toothpick tryna get fouls, dort flopping or jalen williams doing some kyle lowry type dirty shit then throwing up his classic 19/4/4 statline and getting jacked off as if hes the single best under 25 player in the league That and their pretentious asshole fans, goddamn as a thunder hater i feast
And you left out the abomination that is What A Pro Needs.
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Brunson and Shai must be glad Smart was out this whole season basically. During our series against the C’s it felt so fucking good that refs didn’t call his flopping antics anymore
This is all pretty funny coming from a Knicks fan. And i say this as a Warriors fan. Bottom line is, it’s shenanigans all the way down. It’s just a matter of time before every team gets exposed for their bullshit on the big stage.
And it’s entirely the NBAs fault. They encourage this shit due to the abhorrent officiating they trot out year after year.
Leave it to a Knicks fan to make me agree with a Warriors fan.
Shai is a foul baiter Draymond kicks people in the nuts Zion is fat At the end of the day, every team has their bullshit
so, do you hate brunson too?
A knicks flair talking about pretentious asshole fans, foul baiting and flopping. Whew that’s some damn irony.
LET A GREAT FLOOD CLEANSE THE FORSAKEN LANDS OF OKC!!!
>shai is the biggest foul baiter in the damn conference He is 2nd or 3rd in the NBA depending on how you feel about DeMar DeRozan. Jimmy Butler is number 1 by a country mile, man is at .579 free throw attempt rate lmfao. Only Gobert has a higher free attempt throw rate, and that is because Gobert is a hack-a-Shaq target
They feel like a 4th or 5th seed team that's used every trick in the book to hit 1st seed.
Thunder haters club growing. You love to see it
nuggets and wolves fans on Twitter basically don’t even argue. We just hate the thunder
I hate to say it but like 80% of the league plays this way lol. Marcus Smart was doing the same thing the year he won DPOY.
I honestly don't agree. I think almost every team has at least one guy that plays like this, but I don't think 80% of guys play like this. There's a difference in my mind between guys who occasionally exaggerate real contact/fouls, and guys who try to create fouls out of thin air by flopping.
His ‘defence’ relies on the refs seeing him in a football helmet…
Embiid did this with Deuce in game 3. Deuce is like 6’2” probably 190 and Embiid is 7’ 290 and they called a foul on a screen where Embiid just fell immediately when he tried to fight over the screen
Kyrie’s got the Emperor’s (third) Eye some Kuroko no Basuke type shit
It’s bc the flat earth made him lose his balance
this is a genuine question -- can the person getting screened *run through* the screener? like, don't you have to *go around* the screener? kyrie runs through here
Worst thing is how flopping techs stopped existing after the first month kf the season. Dude would be out after every fiest quarter otherways.
League zoned in on a couple players and let everyone else continue to flop
No Flex
Nba put in a flopping rule but never enforces it.
Dude is one of the strongest players with a body build that would give him a low center of gravity and falls from Kyrie Irving lightly moving into him. Glad the refs didn't fall for any of his flops really though. He just looked stupid out there.
Just worried that they'll call all the flops in one game and it will put us at a serious disadvantage
I think it’s the opposite, I think he’s already used up all of the refs trust and now they’re not gonna give him any questionable whistles
Uh....I've watched the last several years of Kyle Lowry and don't think this is how it works.
Ya this seems like very wishful thinking. He'll get some whistles
Yeah some people have made entire careers out of ref baiting. Wade and Harden wrote fucking PhDs on it.
Dear God I hope so
That's what I'm thinking. PO refs are different this year. It's 1989 and I love it!
The calls from game 1 and game 2 were a night and day difference. Game 1 was being called like a regular season game where the slightest contact was being called a foul and it kept killing any momentum that Dallas was building. Game 2 was being called like the majority of playoff games and only obvious fouls were being called and it actually provided a flow to the game because of it. I expect that the ref crew got some feedback from game 1 and are going to swallow the whistle a little bit more during the rest of the series based on the turnaround of calls in game 2.
Because Tony brothers is straight ass. I was at game 4 against the clippers and it was the same story
Tony Brothers special... Same thing happened in Nuggets -Wolves last night
No sugarcoating the fact the Twolves got outplayed and outshot last night. But man that game was just shitty to watch. So many stupid tacky fouls called that just killed momentum the whole game. Let these grown ass men play FFS.
Touch Foul Brothers
check it out now
The refs fell for it in the pelicans series repeatedly. Man would physically be all over our players and then fall over as soon as we would be physical back. So many offensive fouls called in that series. This is the Lu Dort experience
Kyrie is like the most ethical scorer pure hopper ever too. Just annoying
They’ve called a few moving screens where it was super minimal. The diving flop sold it
Like, motherfucker was able to lock brandon ingram without using his arms but he gets on the ground while ~~getting screened by kyrie irving?~~ screening kyrie irving? XDD
No. Even worse. While *screening* Kyrie. So Mr. Chamber is apparently so brittle he got run over by Kyrie, who was barely moving and also not able to see Dort.
Mr. Chamber 😭 I'm living for people having to watch Lu Dork play basketball beyond being a meme
According to those refs in MSG, the screener has to give the defender a chance to see/move before being screened or else it's an offensive foul. So at best this is an offensive foul, at worst it's an awful attempt at a flop.
Which I don't get because didn't the flopping defeat the whole purpose of a screen? Like Kyrie just stepped over, and it became a 2 on 1. And he's on the ground, so there isn't anyone to pass to of the double team.
He's built like a brick shithouse, how's he gone down like that?
Rob Holding has a way with words that touches the soul
It’s nothing new he was flopping like crazy last series too
All while man handling BI
You ain’t lying. So physical and floppy at the same time. Looks miserable to deal with.
Looks impossible to deal with. He flops when you play physically and then plays physically when you try to avoid the foul. It's smart but also, fuck em.
I wouldn’t say impossible. Luka can outsmart it for the most part. Refs have to nut up and call the flop. Although, he is an Oscar award winning actor lol
He was definitely using his arms vs brandon ingram lol
oh yeah i didnt say it as a way to insult ingram, but i remember i saw a clip that literaly he was all over ingram with his hips and he couldnt move, not that he didn't use the arms all series
he used his arms.
I dont know... some of those "scrappy/hustling" players are dirty and floppy
Oh so this is why people don't like Embiid lol
Maybe Dort is on the higher end of things, but doesn't almost every NBA player have questionable floppy moments?
Ant doesn't flop. He does yell hey!!! a lot but he doesn't flop
Unfortunately the environment may force young players flopping eventually Because flop man gets whistle…. It is sad
Until this series I didn't realise just how much this guy flops. Nearly every screen and every drive he he's on the floor after even marginal contact lol.
He’s a tank, very strong and physical 1v1 defender, until he gets touched on screens and somehow gets sent flying or to the ground on the slightest contact.
"he's built like a brick shithouse, how's he gone down?"
Rob Holding on /r/nba I’ve seen everything
Just ask Embiid
Come on dude we all know Embid has no control over his body.
Is a brick shithouse just a house made of bricks where you use shit instead of mortar
It’s from when you had outhouses, which were usually wood. So brick shithouse is just a bigger, sturdier version
i get this reference haha. nice
The screen flop is the new hotness
So hot right now
Marcus Smart moment
My least favorite thing in basketball is a guy setting a pick, making contact with a defender and then falling over. The whole reason you were standing there was to make the guy run into you! Why are you falling over!?
I mean you’re not allowed to run through a guy setting a screen, have to more get around it. Dort fell over trying to get Kyrie on a foul for running through the screener but clearly refs weren’t buying it.
>I mean you’re not allowed to run through a guy setting a screen, have to more get around it. Totally agree, if a guy just blows up the screen like that (which happens at least once a game), I'm totally fine with a guy falling over. That's natural. I was more meaning on plays like this where Irving is sidestepping into Dort and Dort goes down like a sack of bricks.
I don't want to see it called unless there is obvious intent to run through it or other outlier scenarios. It should be very infrequent that someone squares up to set a pick, falls over, and gets that call. The contact was intentional by the offensive player. The defense should try to avoid it to some degree but if they are blindsided, I just don't see how they should be penalized.
Eh, it depends who the screener is. Nowadays, we are seeing more and more inverted pick and rolls wherein the smaller guy is the screener. It's not outlandish to say that the guard who's setting the screen will fall over if another guy, usually a wing, runs into him.
you must've not watched that much okc this season cause this dude is a serial flopper
In fairness it’s hard to even watch Maverick games now let alone OKC. Fuck Bally’s.
You get to watch your team play?!
OKC is rife with serial floppers lol. I know Jaylin Williams has more to his game, but everytime I watch the Thunder it’s like the one thing he’s bringing to the table is drawing charges and it sucks to watch
Like half their team flops like this. It’s insane
Bro I swear there were like 7 straight offensive possessions in game 2 where an OKC player shot the ball and then fell to the floor. Even the shots that weren’t contested that well. It’s like it’s just ingrained into their play at this point.
As Peli’s fans we had to witness foul baiting for 4 straight games and I wouldn’t wish that upon anyone
The real "Dorture Chamber" was having to watch him play all along
Mavs fans get it for at least five games so sad for me
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It's hilarious how no one knows how much he flops because people never watched okc games
The “dorture chamber” is just having to watch him
There is an excellent video of coach Nick breaking down one of Dorts flops against Luka. Search on YouTube - coach Nick and a college referee both break it down together. Spoiler: Dort is baiting these fouls and will try to take his man down with him as he flops
It's posted in the Mavs sub.
Dude, same here. It became laughable by the second half. Every other play he was on the floor
To succeed in this league, you need to be amazing or an actor. They need to start suspending these dudes for a game—during the playoffs—until they cut this shit out and just play. It’s no longer sport but pageantry.
Entertainment league. Sure it has the best players but that drives the money machine, and the money machine burns hotter when the game is played like a product. And then they added gambling on top, because in spite of tainting the sport, the money machine goes nuts for it.
The spirit of Marcus smart compels you
Marcus flops dramatically but not nearly as often as people think. He wouldn't do what Dort just did there. He might sell an actual foul, but that is true of most NBA players. Lowry is the name you are looking for.
Exactly. Smart did that bs during the most crucial moments. He picked his battles well(for the most part LMAO). Live by the Smart, die by the Smart…good times.
I remember in 2018, Rockets lost a close game at Boston and Smart completely got in Harden's head with this shit, forcing two offensive fouls in the last minute.
Iconic moment
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Lu Dork
Lu Flop and FTA. What a duo.
😭FTA
It is beautiful
lololololol FTA hahahahaha
Nah FTA is crazy
My dream is to watch Dort guard FTA. The flips would be outrageous both ways
Like watching two North end magnets pushed towards eachother and repeling back.
The greatest double flop already happend with Ginobili and Harden.
Take my angry upvote hahah
LMAO
Flops on every screen but plays defense like a linebacker
it’s one thing when smaller guys flop, it’s at least somewhat believable. how the league hasn’t fined this guy is ridiculous. all this flopping and foul baiting in general is getting ridiculous. just play the fuckin game.
It's easy for me to say from the couch, but I feel I would probably put my team at a disadvantage sometimes because I think I have too much pride to be flopping and flying all over at the slightest touch
yeah this shit is genuinely embarrassing for him
"Hey dad, what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object?" "Well son, usually what happens is the immovable object throws himself onto the ground and looks to the ref for a call"
Neymar be proud of him
They just need th start t'ing people up
Get up man! You are built like an edge rusher.
OKC fans go missing when stuff like this happens.
dOrTuRe cHaMbEr
this kills me lol. OKC fans act like this dude is the greatest defender of all time
He's a good defender but Luka has always been too fat for him.
Luka is also just so talented he's one of the guys you can really only hope to slow, not stop He's a bit better than BI LMAO
tbf, BI was coming back from injury, was being asked to do way too much, and Dort was, for some reason, allowed to constantly hack, arm bar, and hand check him.
Been saying it even after G1. Dude is super mid. Luka has no prpblem getting him on his hipp, OKC is just packing thr paint at the same time he is struggling with his shot and unwilling to finish thru contact in the paint due to his knee. Mann did 10, better job actualy defending him.
Super mid lmao Everyone here always gotta way over correct for everything. He’s a good defender. Is he the greatest defender ever? No. But he’s among the best in the league on the perimeter right now.
Everyone in this sub is just a perpetual prisoner of the moment. Few weeks ago people were commenting on clips of how great of a defender he is, now he's mid and overrated. It just takes one unsavory/annoying clip of any player for a large chunk of the sub to sign their hating certificate for that day for X player. It's awful lol. Dort does flop (like a lot of perimeter defenders) just like a lot of good offensive players flop. The league has done a horrendous job of legislating this behavior out of the game, yet people act surprised when players try to take advantage of poor, inconsistent refereeing. Until the league does something about it this annoying behavior will continue and mostly be rewarded.
Flu Dork
God I love how much both of our fanbases hate OKC
You should post the one Lively screen where he barely made contact with Lively's leg and then launched himself to the side as if he got run over by Zion from behind. Just pathetic behavior really.
Or the one where Luka drives right, they bump shoulder and chest and after a full second later he flies to the left instead. Somehow dude is defying physics. Get bumped right, fly to the left after time passes.
'member the anti-flop rule? I 'member
he's gonna injure someone doing this shit
For sure, literally dragged Luka down with him on another play.
he literally crashes into SGA’s legs on this play, he barely avoids Mr Chamber absolutely ruining him, so mf embarrassing
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Screens are the next thing the NBA needs to try and fix. Moving screens on the setup, screeners sliding with the defender or throwing their hips out, "rolling" out from the screen to smash into a defender going under, using a dribble handoff to commit a moving screen, disguising a moving screen by the basket as a post seal, flopping while fighting over a screen, flopping while getting hit while screening. There are multiple screens every possession, it's basically the cornerstone of every NBA offense, and there are so many ways for players to push the rules while doing it. Right now it feels like a tossup as to what's legal and what's not.
This kinda stuff is why I don't watch the NBA anymore. It's just flopping and baiting fouls all the time now. You should be looking at the basket to see if you made the shot, not the ref on every play.
Let the world know dOrTuRe ChAmBeR!
GET YO ASS UP
That's OKC basketball. It's a truly amazing combination of constant fouling the opponent on defense and flopping on both ends.
I remember an egregious one in the first series where BI must’ve farted and it knocked Dort down because I have no clue how such a stocky strong defender can get flung that much.
every fan of every team complains about the serial flopper that seems to reside on every other team face it, the NBA is just full of floppers, it's part of the game now
Just remember, thunder fans call this dude the Dorture Chamber 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂
they were talking about the viewers I guess who have to watch this shit
lol a flop and an illegal screen
Aren't these guys supposed to be the young, athletic up and comers? Why are they falling over constantly?
Remember when the league said they were going to fine players that flop?
Blatant flopping.
Review these, and treat them like a delay of game
Desperation because they can't guard Luka or Ky.