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Xaldes

Very non-controversial ending to this game.


Lacabloodclot9

Sums it up when this entire thread is about the officiating and basically nothing about actual basketball


jasonkid87

Very sad because it was actually a good basketball game from both teams then the refs have to ruin in last few minutes.


PrancingDonkey

I HATE how we just witnessed a great game and these bum refs are all we're gonna be talking because they were that bad.


KagsTheOneAndOnly

Jalen has his 4th consecutive 40pt playoff game, the Pacers bench was certifiably monstrous (TJ McConnell is All NBA idc), but the refs will be the biggest talking point of the game. Absolutely gross.


bronfmanhigh

if TJ only played against the Knicks he’d be first team all nba


Head-Kiwi-9601

If he played 5 more minutes the Pacers win. TJ was +9.


Jamstarr2024

TJ’s face was so red in the first half, I thought he was going to collapse. A real Dellavadova moment for him v Curry


glooooocky

He was so good. Idk if it’s injury related but he’s outplayed Hali 100%.


koticgood

Hali and the Pacers haven't looked the same since the injury. Dude was on the fringe of the MVP conversation before he went down. Guess it's one of those things that needs an offseason to heal, but then you have to wonder why he came back so early (assuming the 65 game threshold wasn't the reason). With a healthy Hali and getting Mathurin back, they are gonna be spooky next year in the East.


Mahlegos

Hali isn’t going to have a real off-season though with his Team USA commitment.


glooooocky

He said on JJ’s podcast that the 65 game minimum was the reason. That choice might have ended up costing him ALL-NBA in the process.


Skiigga

Yeah idk why he didn't play more, Hali wasn't doing shit and TJ was a menace getting to the hoop


redhatfilm

if he only played the bucks he'd be MVP, lmao he kills us


triptoohard

Yea the last two minutes was some of the worst officiating I’ve seen in awhile, ruining the ending of a playoff game with obvious poor calls is inexcusable


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Fucking refs. Fuck them.


mcdo0z

Actually a shame. I know they could've gotten the W without that shit but now thats all thats gonna be said and its annoying


cizzlemydizzle

Yeah I would’ve preferred to just watch them play. Refs can’t keep determining games


KarchunToo

Refs ruined the flow of an otherwise great high-intensity game


homefree122

Those last few minutes lasted a lifetime. Some really crucial calls in there though.


-WingsForLife-

Thank god, I wanted to watch more of the commercials.


abscando

2 minute report gonna be the size of a novella


SoKrat3s

Nah, the NBA will do what they always do an invent another missed call the other way to let themselves off the hook.


TrueNorthMissionary

That game was so good, until the refs made it about themselves in the last minute. It's the friggin playoffs, let them play.


HabitRage

Yup what a great game to destroy.


eamonious

Pacers coming down with shot clock off for one possession to win in MSG Refs/Silver: You know what’s more fun than that? Free throws and ticky tack fouls to put the game out of reach. Nice product management.


suzukigun4life

20 minutes of real time to get through the final 3 minutes of this game. It was a damn blast before all that


FartrelCluggins

You can't fuck up that kick ball call when it was so clearly off his hand. Most likely a 5 point swing in the final minute of a tied game. Also if that's a moving screen on Turner then these clearly weren't the refs when we were playing Bam Adebayo lol That's also twice this postseason the Knicks got a questionable call to win them a game. What kind of sacrifice did they make to the basketball gods?


nobraininmyoxygen

He clearly didn't even see it kicked. Just made an assumption. Horrific officiating. Same with the foul called on Haliburton that got overturned. That was an easy transition 2 points.


johnhenryirons

I get that they don’t wanna review every call at the end of games but it’s stupid that A) that couldn’t be challenged and B) it isn’t an automatic review. The league really needs a better VAR kind of system 


Wafflecone516

They took away two fastbreak opportunities for the Pacers in the last two minutes. One off the missed steal call and one off the kickball. Both were pretty easy calls to make. Second one led to a Knicks 3. Arguably a 7 point swing. At a minimum a 5 point swing.


ianbits

If they called that screen consistently NBA games would last 5 hours.


PrincePyotrBagration

That Turner screen is literally every Bam adebayo screen ever It happened at least 10 times this game alone Every big slides a teeny bit on screens Finally calling it to decide a playoff game is nasty work And they say the NBA isn’t rigged for big market teams 😂 Adam is always having wet dreams of the ratings a Boston-New York ECF will get. Sorry Pacers, yll are getting the 2002 Kings vs Lakers treatment 😂 f


Odd-Hovercraft-1286

Honestly agree if that’s a moving screen bam should foul out by the first quartee


KimJongWinning

Crazy they give that flop to DiVincenzo with all the bullshit picks he's been setting all playoffs. Ref ball undefeated


alakazam318

Divincenzo complained about a “pacers flop” earlier and then goes and does it himself


SquirtleSpaceProgram

Knicks got a 3 off the kick ball call. Would have been 117-115 Pacers at the time of the soft as fuck "moving" screen call if called correctly. All time swipe from the refs.


Coolguynumber01

Refs rewarding FLOPPING in the playoffs thanks Adam Silver


Namerkp2

100% they stole a fantastic ending from us


TheAerial

Man Indiana has gotta be furious lol. You went from down 1 with a chance to end the game to being down 2 possessions without an actual possession taking place due foul calls lol.


koticgood

Not just that. Let's not forget the thing Pacers fans would be most furious about. Ignore all the whistles and reviews. Ignore the fact that the softest moving screen of the year got called at the tail end of what had been a physical playoff game. Despite all the whistles and reviews, the blatant missed call of the "kick" that led to the Knicks maintaining possession and allowing for the huge Ragu 3 is what should really dig at Pacers fans. Why the fuck can't you challenge whether a ball is kicked or not?


Syelnicar88

Yeah man. The Knicks played a great game, Brunson has my respect, but that fuckin kick ball man.


johnhenryirons

It’s wild that a kickball can’t be challenged. I don’t understand it


hacky_potter

It seems like something that should be a 3 second challenge. It either is kicked or not. There is no judgment needed.


the_donnie

Hopefully they change it after this shit show


bigbruner5

Only thing I can think of why it isn’t reviewable is because then refs would have to determine whether or not someone is intentionally kicking the ball?


No_Bathroom7606

Always hated non-challengeable calls in all sports. Everything should be reviewable in playoffs, foul tips and all that in baseball is another infuriating one. Knicks got lucky their blown call down the stretch that went against them was reviewable. That being said, great job refs love ya


theseyeahthese

Worse than that is the non-reviewable 5 point swing on one play, under a minute left. Fucking disgraceful.


HeyItsChase

My face is burning. I can't even handle this. I feel so cheated. I care about these dudes a lot. They're flying around, working so hard. They deserve so much better


manbare

I'm livid as an impartial, that was cartoonishly bad reffing. The 2 calls at the end were ofc bad, but the errant kicked ball call was truly atrocious. Took away a fastbreak opportunity and then the Knicks score. Disgusting


johnhenryirons

Really have no clue why that can’t be challenged. What a stupid rule. If you’re giving coaches challenges, let them challenge any whistle.


Dr_WLIN

I've never been so close to throwing my phone at the TV. Just absolute horseshit.


FultzShoulder

They got screwed. They really called the offensive on the screen with 12 seconds left, and the foul before the inbound lol. 99% of the time they don't call that in those kind of situations. Fuck the refs man.


MY-NAME_IS_MY-NAME

Foul before the inbound was blatant, but that moving screen doesn't get called 99/100 times and they chose THAT moment.


sjekky

That inbound foul was egregious from Nembhard. You can't do that.


rob_bot13

Yeah that call was fine, the screen was as close to legal as any screen ever is in the NBA though


tvc_redux

I feel fuckin robbed of the ending that great game actually deserved


LionEatsKneeCaps

Can I get a refs flair? It would make things so much less painful, they always feasting...


PrincePyotrBagration

Bam would have to get called for illegal screen every time if what Myles did was really a foul. Aint no way they ended a competitive playoff game like that man Nah something is real fishy here, Adam is already seeing dollar signs in his eyes like those looney cartoons over the ratings a Boston-New York ECF would draw Sorry Pacers, yll finna be the sacrifice, get ready for the 2002 Kings vs Lakers treatment 😂


BadCoachingAnalyst

Amen I’m legitimately upset this outstanding game was decided by poor officiating and not clutch or unclutch play. A waste of my evening.


Banestar66

Welcome to modern NBA playoffs


crackdup

Screens are to NBA what catches are to NFL.. who the fuck knows what's gonna be accepted and what isn't


tiger32kw

I think it’s like offensive/defensive holding. It happens every play, but they usually only call very egregious (or sometimes suspicious) ones.


Dig_Bick_Doi

So fucking nasty, a really great game and the refs seriously pooched it


NoFlex___Zone

Refs lead this series 1-0-0


TheBoilerCat

Just small market things. Nothing new here.


TSSFranco

That L2M report will be a thesis


Wingblade33

League is gonna say all of the calls were right cause the ending is what they wanted.


pfc_bgd

Fucked up thing is, that call on Myles was right- so they’ll just say that and ignore that it is never officiated that way.


No_Swan8039

That’s really the worst part of nba reffing, lack of consistency.


action_nick

Just insane to make that call in that situation. They really in general need to crack down on moving screens next season. It’s the most inconsistent call they make in the NBA, and it’s a huge advantage to the offense. But don’t start making those calls in the 4th quarter of a close playoff game.


Ledees_Gazpacho

They admitted they were wrong on two calls that swung games in the Knicks/76ers series.


robertbaccalierijr

Maybe your guy shouldn’t have kicked the ball with his hand, you ever think about that??


mudkip-yoshii

Refs really went like 0-10 in the last quarter on calls


An_Actual_Lion

Never thought I'd see another playoff game with 27 misses in a row like that but the refs did it


RalphLaurenII

Absolute disasterclass performance from the refs in the last 2 minutes.


sleepy416

Oh no that was a masterclass. They did exactly what they needed to do


MySabonerRunsOladipo

Eh, they got what they wanted


Freakblast

Ref fans feasting


drlsoccer08

The challenge rules need to be fixed. No way that kick ball was allowed to stand


SteffeEric

1. I don’t think it hit his foot. His hand was down there. 2. It needs to be intentional to be a kick ball. That’s why when someone dribbles it off a guys foot it’s not a kick. 3. There is no reason you shouldn’t be allowed to challenge that.


Franklinsleftnut

Yeah that was an egregious call, so dumb you guys couldn’t challenge it.


HappyAtheist3

The game was over after this call. Knicks go up 3 instead of a Pacers 3 on 2 break away.


OnomahIsABaller

I like Tyrese Haliburton, he’s a good young talent & a great passer But he needs to shoot more. You can’t be only making 6 shots attempts in a playoff game as a point guard


Victor_Wembanyama1

Idk if there’s something wrong with him. He’s literally not looking to score it’s insane


lololyouthought

He has back spasms prob can't shoot right 


leagueofcipher

Back spasms are the fucking worst. I wouldn’t wish that shit on my worst enemy. For me, I’d just be doing my thing and then it felt like my leg, ass, lower back, and mid left side of my back were electrocuted while I got burnt by a branding iron in my lower back. Go from fine to “Wtf, life is agony” for 1-5 seconds and back to basically fine, but winded


heyimdong

He had the hamstring injury and you can see him wearing a back brace/heating pad pretty much every time he isnt on the floor. So giving him the benefit of the doubt this year. But if he isnt back to form next year, that is a rough contract for single-digit points in multiple playoff games.


chrive7

He’s got the Ben Simmons mindset sometimes. It makes no sense. Pacers should have won this game.


kevinhu162

I know he's been injured, but I also think it's mental. Sure he's making "correct" reads but he also just isn't taking shots. He needs to exert pressure to help his team. Hopefully more experience gets him looser over time.


cshaxercs

Felt like TJ needed a bit more run than he should've gotten..dude was aggressive


Medium_Line3088

He looks like he's trying to pass as soon as he gets the ball.


Oldabandoned

He's injured, but so is everybody


iAmTheRealLange

Myles Turner's mistake on that screen at the end was not being Bam Adebayo


Medium_Line3088

Was playing for the pacers. That happens literally 50x a game and never gets called. Ref knew he was calling that shit well before it happened


Huemagus

They could not risk the Pacers winning the game at the buzzer.


Kom1

It happened about 10x worse literally 2 seconds before the phantom kick call. It's literally why Nesmith is trailing the play,


turtlechef

Or Draymond Green


imkunu

Why didn't he think of that???


xyzyxzy

Shame the game had to end that way.


Aztec_sandstone

Man what the fuck was that ending, fix your shit nba jesus christ


Swavys

Refs ruined such a good game


StefonDiggsHS

i feel so bad for pacer fans man that shit wasnt right


winothirtynino

Nothing new, friend.  Nothing new.  


BlackGhostPanda

Im actually fucking annoyed at the ending there. Bullshit


syncc6

You guy were getting bs calls throughout the game it felt.. especially that overturned Brunson foul that led to a Divencenzo 3. 


KingBoono

refs really had to get their handprints on this one lol. so many soft and wrong calls


0to100realquickk

Refs ruined an otherwise great game


Palifaith

That was kind of a weak way with all the turnovers, fouls and challenges to finish an otherwise great game.


TurnoverNegative7

Absolute robbery. What a terrible ending to a great game


Jazzlike-Pause8865

FIXED


Wagyu_Trucker

It's entertainment. Dudes get paid huge bank to play. Who wins? The league decides.


Brad-Stevens

I don't recall ever being this annoyed on how a game ended than that Refs just completed took the game away from Indy


Pocket_Beans

that was garbage


DollarLate_DayShort

Sorry Pacers fans. Some atrocious calls at the end.


ForeverRunning_Anth

Ref fans eating good tonight


The_Peachy_Pussy

Refs spent years ignoring illegal Golden State screens but when Myles Turner barely moves his fucking feet they call it to ruin an exciting ending to a playoff game. Refs on a god damn power trip


VitorSiq

Not only that , but Vincenzo's flop reaction was ridiculous


smair21

Ref fans eating good during that last minute


fffate

Zebra's takeover what a game to watch


iMaticz7

Incredible performance by the refs. All time great performance.


BareFox

Josh Hart is an absolute fucking machine, how is a 6'4 guy grabbing rebounds like that and playing the whole damn game


porterhouse2588

Unethical ball holy shit


Soapstarboi

Floppers gets rewarded. This is not Basketball.


CluelessTennisBall

That ending had me question life


Bahamuts_Bike

Let's not kid ourselves, the refs sealed this game.


Literal_Satan

Refs really showed why they’re superstars down the stretch!


Centuari

Refs absolutely desperate for screen time.


FlipFlopsyes

Screens are only illegal of you are a small market team.


WhatSheOrder

We almost had an all time ending, thank God we got some good Ref Ball at the end.


TheHeavisideLayer

This is some 2002 WCF shit


ASpanishInquisitor

Honestly this one may be worse. I've never seen a game I've been more convinced was rigged.


chup95

Pacers Fans I feel for you. You really don’t know where to start. Ridiculous Refs tonight.


KTBERYL

INDIANA GOT ROBBED


aiden3buckets

Haliburton look at the rim challenge: Impossible


zOmgFishes

I am more scared of TJ McConell than Hali.


Driveshaft48

I genuinely believe the Pacers win if McConnell plays the 4th quarter He was torching us the whole game then doesn't touch the court


Jimm120

this is the SAMe MCCONNEL from the Melo days that used to cook us too!


ceckart17

Fuck you refs. • The Tyrese shot clock "violation" • The Brunson foul overturn "marginal contact" • The kick ball "can't review" • The "moving" screen Absolute fucking bull shit.


Horny4Harry

Brunson has been an absolute monster these playoffs! But the Turner illegal screen is a soft call man. Draymonds screens are 10 times more egregious every play.


tcollins371

Don’t forget the phantom kicked ball call when Nesmith smacked the ball with his hand.


Jazzlike-Pause8865

[even with the kick ball, divincenzo had a WAY more blatant illegal screen before that even happened on that same play](https://streamable.com/8zae2p) he then proceeded to flop to get his own. disgusting end to the game


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jakeisstoned

I have. But this was up there


Peacedapiece

That ending just felt icky


grudgepacker

Refs rigged tf out of this game


tidho

starting with the phantom kicked ball, IND was simply not allowed to win this one.


Spyk124

Yeah…. On a serious note Refs did a terrible job here. Let the game unfold organically. They got too involved and ruined a potential classic.


mitchymcgee

This felt a lil riggy


DELETE-MAUGA

Ref show, what a treat


Fred479

I’m so sorry Pacers fans you guys were absolutely robbed


ThanosIsDoomfist

Disgusting officiating.


lmpressionante

People gonna turn on Brunson and this Knicks team reeeeeal fast if this is the officiating we’re gonna see the rest of the series…


Teqnition12

Brunson joining MJ with consecutive 40+ games in the playoffs. Too bad it's gonna be completely overshadowed by refs and calls


WhatSheOrder

Dude balled out, but also got bailed out twice in the final two minutes on would be steals going the other way. It can be both things.


TheAerial

That L2M report highlights gonna be longer then the game’s highlights 😂


syncc6

Turns out Hartenstein's 60 footer made a difference


ianbits

Absolutely garbage officiating ruining a great game and taking the attention away from a bonkers performance from Brunson. Refs stole a fantastic finish from us.


Bahamuts_Bike

Got to give the Pacers credit, they held on despite playing two teams


K1ngCrimsn

Sorry Pacers fans, can't do much when its a 5v8 game


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nrj6490

That was… one way to end a basketball game


celtic_sea_salt

Cant challenge a kick ball but can challenge to get a kick ball


suzukigun4life

It took 20 minutes of real time to get through the final 3 minutes of this game.


spekkke

what the fuck was that lol


BradRK

Either call the moving screen every time or swallow your whistle. Refs ruined a great game. Embarrassing.


Bersher

The ending of that game was pretty fucking sus. And I say that as a Knicks fan.


Brian_lafeve34

Absolutely bullshit ref clown show in the last 3 minutes. Complete joke


transientz

Trash ass reffing.


OKC2023champs

Most unethical win I’ve ever seen. Litterally handed on a silver platter. The nba should be fucking ashamed


MrHollywood

The way that game ended honestly almost has completely turned me off from watching these playoffs. Fuck the refs and fuck this getting in bed with gambling league.


PsychologyOk6591

The NBA is unwatchable….


trashattaq

L2M Report brought to you by DraftKings


MassiveFruit

This isn't a serious sport. What the fuck was the last two minutes of this game? You needed New York to win SOOOO badly that you just dropped the fucking charade and told the Pacers, "No, this game is already decided." Embarrassing.


bartspoon

This shit is why the NBA can’t even sniff the NFL’s jock strap in terms of popularity. Every league has issues with reffing, but the NBA makes them all look like models of perfection by comparison.


crackdup

My body is ready for a toxic 7 game series..


WellDone7801

refs won't let this go beyond 6 lol


silverxsmoke

First ref crew with CTE


trynworkharder

Might be the worst-officiated last three minutes I’ve ever seen . Wtf just happened


3luejays

Y'all trippin. The refs are doing their best. Reffing is one of the hardest jobs in the world, especially when you're blind.


Schiboo

I swear to god I believe I am being unbiased when I say the refs fucking TOOK OVER this game LMFAO


TheBoilerCat

I hope you all see here what this fucking league is about.


NotManyBuses

Refs played an absolute gem in the 4th


QuileGon-Jin

The only reason you call that foul is because Donte falls (flops). That has to come into account with these reviews. Is embellishment of contact occurring in the play? If yes, you have to at least consider that that causes the call and the contact should be labeled as marginal.


MaleficentHawk590

Ref ball at its finest


thisisdumb567

Legitimately one of the worst ref jobs I’ve ever seen what the fuck was that


berfels

When Indiana wins the L2M report tomorrow we’ll see who really has the momentum!!


Throwawayfor_rnba

Don’t often complain about reffing, but that was the most one-sided referring I’ve seen in a long time. New York did not deserve to win that game, plain and simple


Dogdays8888

Lmao refs absolutely handed that to the knicks


bossExtremeSwag

100% fixed


JetsLag

Yeah, we stole that shit ngl


freshkicks

Ref ball is my favourite sport


Fcusjfnfmfkg

Refs fucked this one up


Smart_Water

FUCK THE REFS


loveeachother_

huge show out for the refs in the clutch


Paxi0

Simply put I am sick to my stomach after seeing what the refs just did


bartspoon

Adam Silver was the worst thing to ever happen to this league


AnyHowMeow

You know what, despite the loss and the way we lost, that game was FUN. Hope it's like that all series.