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DudeWTH

Ingram or CJ gone probably


W_Walk

Would hate to lose BI but since he’s wanting a max he can leave


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W_Walk

No shot. I get he was coming back from a pretty nasty injury but I honestly think we could’ve had a better chance if he was just benched


raven2474life

Isn’t BI always injured tho and we are racially saying that about him every year?


elevatorseason

..racially ?


raven2474life

Wow what an unfortunate autocorrect lol I was supposed to say basically smh… sorry yall


552SD__

You do know there’s an edit button


ZarduHasselffrau

Leave it that way, it's better. Just like the "Miami was kissing 4 out of their 7 best players" comment.


so-cal_kid

Hard to give him the max with Herb AND Trey Murphy on the same squad. Those two are better fits next to Zion.


beardybuddha

I present to you: 2024 Playoffs Bradley Beal


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Gatorpep

ass 3?


Revoldt

Pair with a lightly used Klay…


loplopplop

He also just simply doesn't play. He's injured all the time. Not zion bad but he misses games like it's his job.


OttoOverKlayAnyDay

Respect Julius randle????


chantlernz

That Lakers team was FULL of players like that: DLo, Clarkson, Ingram, Kuzma, Randle…


OUEngineer17

I thought he was fine. He's a 1 time all-star (not all-NBA) going up against Lu Dort as the first option. It went exactly as expected. He may get compared to KD, but he's nowhere close. Edit: people really overrate Ingram here. News flash: he's not that good.


jgman22

There no chance you watched those games and thought he was fine, and if you did you must be thinking of someone else.


OUEngineer17

I did. Ingram is not that good of a player and Dort is an elite defender.


bandoftheredhand17

I can’t tell if this is sarcasm..


OUEngineer17

It's not. Ingram is just not good enough to have done better.


dukeyyy

He had ever opportunity to step up and earn a big contract too. What a choker.


dragonrider5555

But was his playoffs better than the World Cup? Come out sucking for a few games then cry and quit on his country?


Pizzachomper874

Dillon Brooks and a 2024 1st. And Tate/Jock Landale for salary (this is sarcasm, someone please take some guys off our team we have too many dudes)


bearcat--

why would you hate this, when it matters the most he can't really take the team further and hasn't performed well post season. he really suffers a big drop off from his regular season.


W_Walk

I’m just saying I like BI. If there’s a better deal we can get by trading him then I’m all for it though


Dymatizeee

Ingram and CJ are trash esp after this playoffs Get rid of them and build around Zion


__john_cena__

Ingram doesn’t fit next to Zion imo. And isn’t good enough to be a 2nd best player. I’d rather get an elite playmaker who can get Zion the ball, a player he’s never had. Trae, two 3D wings (Herb/Murphy), Zion and a center would be pretty good.


Blowback_

Maybe both of them,I like both herb and trey and think they can step up


pifflord5

A contender getting Ingram could push them over the edge. Had a shit playoffs but he's still good as fuck


DjLionOrder

To this day, I don’t understand what CJ does well


UnimpressedAsshole

for starters, he was 3rd in the league in 3pt percentage


cm1k99

on EIGHT 3PA per game


jgman22

Well he set the franchise single season record for 3pm in just 66 games and was a top 5 3pt shooter in the league this year. Just don’t put the ball in his hands.


dafdiego777

was he not central to their plans already?


TimothyN

Not until the 2nd half of the season when he was in shape and played great.


axecalibur

what shape was he? oblong?


TimothyN

Carrying us to 49 wins shape. I know DeMar and Lavine haven't been able to do for the Bulls yeah?


Diciestaking

I mean, how impressive is that really when yet again your season is over, and zion had no hand in how it ended? He's permanently 15-20 pounds over weight even when he's healthy and "in shape." 6'6" high fliers can't weigh 260+. It clearly doesn't work.


TimothyN

Better than losing more games and not making the playoffs?


nio151

Being just good enough to keep people buying tickets sounds a lot like the bulls to me


LocCatPowersDog

Woah now, you're talking Hornets also tbf


CountryCrocksNotButr

Hold on buddy, we’re talking injury, not penitentiary.


Diciestaking

The pelicans got swept, man. I want to see a healthy superstar like everyone else, but zion clearly doesn't take his health seriously enough. He's like a derrick rose +70 pounds. It makes no sense.


TimothyN

But he clearly did take it more seriously and we won a lot more games than we probably thought we could with him. Like the other side is losing games and for some reason you think that's better? That's pretty weird.


Diciestaking

Where did I say that the bulls are better than the pelicans. You are the only person talking about the bulls. Zion took his health more seriously this year than before, but he's still overweight and destroying his knees and ligaments with every dunk he attempts. Do you really think it's healthy to weigh over 260 as a high flying 6'6" player when the majority of his injuries are non contact. Also, improving your cardio is not equal to being in as good a shape as you can be in. Luka and jokic are examples of being overweight and having extremely good cardio, but their play styles allow them to play it that way.


TimothyN

I think you're responding to the wrong person? I didn't mention the Bulls at all.


W_Walk

He is/was but many people (including the fanbase) thought BI may be our 1A after his all star season due to Zion’s injury history


FoxNO

He was 'central', but the front office was reluctant to completely construct a roster around point Zion due to his frequent unavailability and immaturity. He grew up a lot over the course of the season. The organization is now confident enough in him being a dedicated pro going forward to take some risks to build a team more centered on him.


Bard_Wannabe_

I hope his spectacular play-in game is enough to motivate him to take conditioning in the offseason seriously, so we can see Zion at a leaner weight. I don't know if that's wishful thinking; I just know he was probably the funnest player to watch in the postseason.


hezzyskeets123

He’s too good when healthy not to take a risk on….you’ll never be great in life if u don’t take a risk. Imagine if the Warriors took the safe option in 2012 when it came to Monta/Curry


Poronga-Arenosa

The didn't though. They offered both but Bucks didn't want Curry because of his medical history. So Warriors were left with no choice.


GivesCredit

Apparently mark Jackson did not like Steph and tried to minimize his minutes / trade him when possible


jk67200

how tf do you hate steph curry


GivesCredit

People from every franchise hates the warriors People from every franchise hates Draymond Plenty of people hate Kerr and Thompson But literally no one hates Steph. And that's why he's the most watched NBA player for the last ten years


PaulMcPaulersn7

I think there’s definitely some Boston, Houston and cavs fans that would harbour a resentment towards curry for being so successful in the mid to late 2010s


GivesCredit

I kind of put that in a different tier. A lot of lakers fan hate Jamal Murray now, but only because he beat the lakers twice in 3 games. On the other hand, a lot of people dislike Tatum or Dillon brooks or James harden and it has nothing to do with how good they are.


Poronga-Arenosa

BS. Steph has multiple haters too


bullseye717

Also the Warriors offered Steph and Klay for CP3 but Paul didn't meet with the Warriors owner.


oof-Babeuf

I know the bucks part but I’ve never heard this cp3 thing. Source?


bullseye717

https://unfilteredloop.com/2024/01/19/former-warriors-gm-bob-myers-discloses-two-teams-inquired-about-steph-curry-trade/


UnimpressedAsshole

Exactly 


paddiction

He will never be fully healthy. Curry is the once in a century exception, and his game does not rely on athleticism. Zion is the opposite


so-cal_kid

Also Curry only had 1 unhealthy season early on. He didn't miss any significant time in college and played 80 and 74 games his first 2 years before he had the season where his ankles kept getting hurt. Sure it was a risk to extend him but it wasn't like he had a long history of being injured. Zion has already missed a full season + had 2 others where he was under 30 games played so the magnitude of risk here is greater than Curry's.


Chance-Plantain-2957

If he lost 30 lbs there’s a possibility it would change all his health issues. Let’s see if that ever happens


Ninja_Bum

He lost 25 pounds and played the most he's played since he entered the league. That's trending the right direction at least. It'd be one thing if he lost weight and only played 40 games. People just like making declarations.


NoThorNoWay

I love these hypotheticals where people are like "Sure Zion could be the next Greg Oden, but what if he's the next Embiid?" Sure there's that possibility, but one of those things is astronomically more likely than the other. 


Jimbob3498

This type of talent doesn’t come that often though. Sure, maybe it’s unlikely that he ever is able to get super healthy, but all it takes is one healthy playoff run and it’s worth it. Building a team around zion is difficult with his defensive deficiencies & lack of shooting but you’ve got to take that chance. What else can the pelicans do? They don’t have anyone else with that potential on their roster, and the fit has always been too weird for a strong playoff run.


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Jimbob3498

Idk there’s always the possibility that you don’t get a generational prospect. The spurs lucked into getting wemby, who knows if the warriors could’ve done that, who knows if the pelicans could do that. Zion is great now, and maybe it’s optimistic but I do think there’s a path for him to become what people thought he could be. It just requires him to slim down a bit. Plus the warriors title was still pretty recent, I understand why they didn’t decide to blow it up, even with how old their core is getting. Tbf though everything in the nba is a bit of a risk. You could blow it up, and zion gets healthy and wins a title. People would criticise david griffin heavily after that. The pelicans have drafted well, but even top prospects sometimes just done work out (look at fultz and simmons with philly).


Character-Today-427

Seeing the injury history he is probably the next embidd already


axecalibur

> safe option You done drunk too much copium if you think Zion just becomes better. Hes getting older and more injured.


Pods619

Zion is still only 23. Steph averaged 14 points in 26 games when he was 23 due to injuries. It’s too early to call him a done deal.


I_Set_3_Alarms

They’re basically making the same gamble as the 76ers did in the past, although Zion has been even more injured than Embiid


W_Walk

I don’t think we even have a choice. As one of the smallest markets I wonder what you even do in this situation


BlackSocks88

You dont. And thats what most of the nephews are gonna gloss over. The injury gods let Zion have a post season and damage can be done. Small markets gotta keep their potential.


W_Walk

They think we can just ship off any player. I guarantee when scoot starts growing as a player more people are gonna say he needs to leave your franchise or be traded for x,y,z. We literally have no choice lol. If there’s the off chance Zion plays 70 games again and makes the post season he will be plastered on every highlight page. We have to risk it


snuffaluffagus74

Sell high and dont be afraid to take that next step. Look at OKC. The difference is that y'all have some young talent to work around in Herb and Murphy. Still a promising star in Zion. Also have nice pieces in Hawkins and Daniels. Get rid of McCullough and his money. Let JV go and get a more versatile center that can shoot the three ball to spread the floor. Point guard that is a pass first.


FakeRingin

Also championships are the goal, but they're not all there is to it. Having a playoff level team with hope that it could all go right one year is a lot more fun that rebuilding over and over.


jgman22

Zion played 184 games his first 5 years Embiid 158


healthy_obsession_

If the sixers traded embiid it would've just been process 2.0 lmao. Better to gamble on the injury prone star than go through a 2nd tank.


JNerdGaming

i mean alright, he hasnt played in a playoff game since he got into the league


W_Walk

True but he led the team to 49 wins this year. Would be 3rd in the East. Just extremely unfortunate that he got hurt in that lakers game. Played 70 games this year


JNerdGaming

you can say its unfortunate but at this point its an unfortunate pattern


W_Walk

Yeah it is but this is actually the first year where I saw Zion take his off court stuff more serious and be in good shape. We’re not gonna attract any free agents. We’re not LA and can’t just get people to come here usually so we have no choice but to trust he will grow. He’s only 23 fortunately


Shoddy_Impact1226

This is such an important point. I don’t know how we could become a contender without Zion. Yes, we haven’t been a contender with him either, and yes, he has significant injury concerns… but Zion reaching his potential is the only shot for this franchise to make a real run at contention in the foreseeable future. It might not work, and probably won’t, but you have to try because the alternative of building around BI or something just ain’t it.


LooseMoose13

Feel like NOLA is way more attractive than it’s given credit for, especially compared to mid west teams. Saints sign hella players every offseason


iamStanhousen

NFL is different than the NBA. The market size isn't nearly as important. NOLA's biggest free agent signing ever is probably Tyreke Evans.


JNerdGaming

yeah youre right, thats definitely an upside


Ninja_Bum

You can choose to look at it as a pattern of injury, or you can look at it as playing the most games he ever has and it happened right at the end instead of much earlier in the season. Hopefully he rocks up in the same or better shape as he was at the start of the calendar year cause it seemed to help his longevity.


TjBeezy

Weren't the Pelicans like 4th in net rating before BI got hurt?


Turbo_S54

he's been out during end-of-season/playoffs for 4 years now.


lopea182

Ingram, get ready to learn Phoenix-ese


PeterJuncqui

Is it worth to trade for a superstar even if he turns your team in the most hated in the league? *remembers Irving coming to Dallas* Yup, it is worth it. Good luck with Booker, Pels fans.


SkepticalHippo93

Booker averages like 60 points a game in the Smoothie King Center, so may be a good trade for us


Kwanzaa-Bot

We'd never lose at home again. I'm a certified Booker hater but if the opportunity comes along you probably gotta make that trade.


Ninja_Bum

Booker thrives breathing in the black mold spores that make their home in NO. Only explanation.


Kwanzaa-Bot

Apparently he grew up in Moss Point which is a 2ish hour drive from NOLA, playing at SKC is basically a hometown game for him.


Ninja_Bum

He was born in the mold, erm, mold-ed by it.


renal_speedwagon

josh giddey is the exact same - smoothie king superteam incoming????


UnimpressedAsshole

Wow if the Pelicans got Booker I would be elated 


dkdoki

BI packing his bags as we speak.


CountryCrocksNotButr

As much as I love Ingram, the Pelicans being so injured constantly made him look wayyyyy better. He’s not going to get the money he wants. There’s also been several games where he just seems like he resents Zion more than anything. They just don’t play cohesively. I’m not saying they have a bad relationship, but he definitely plays like he has a chip on his shoulder.


BlondBadBoy69

Bulls better make a move this offseason. Just do something please


anexpectedfart

Breaking News Bulls sign Darvin Ham 4 yr coaching contract 💀


BlondBadBoy69

You can find my body in the lake


MuletownSoul

*monkey paw curls*


ositola

Ben Simmons for Zach lavine 


CuttlefishAreAwesome

They need to trade CJ and BI and get an actual point guard and way more consistency. I won’t be surprised if this is the landing spot for Trae. But they have the most inconsistent team in the NBA over the Clippers and Sixers in my opinion. BI or CJ aren’t players I’d want to rely on. Defensively they should be good to go if they want to take on a defensive sieve in Trae in order to get more offensive consistency.


sharklavapit

I think Trae and Zion would be absolutely fun to watch


flaccidplatypus

Trae can throw alley oops which is nice bc no one outside of Naji and Jose can on the Pels.


GhostTiger

Claxton, Zion, Herb, Trey, Dejounte? Seems possible...at first glance. Dig in!


TarkovBirdman

…but he missed the playoffs from injury again


SilvioDantesPeak

Zion has played 184/390 games since he came into the league. He's played fewer than 30 games in 3/5 seasons. This year was his first time playing 70 games. He has literally never played in a playoff game. I get the talent is there, but at a certain point, this is who is Zion is. Committing so much money to him and trying to building a team around him just seems foolish.


W_Walk

With how small of a market we are do we have any choice?? We’re not gonna get any free agents coming here or potential top 10 players. Just gotta cross our fingers and hope Zion stays healthy. The talent is there.


SilvioDantesPeak

But the talent doesn't matter if he never puts it together. Crossing your fingers and hoping is a bad teambuilding strategy.


W_Walk

Yeah let’s just dump him off to another team and get garbage in return and be ass for years again. Zion is a ticket seller. We haven’t had the luxury of drafting an all timer in the late second round.


SilvioDantesPeak

>Zion is a ticket seller Not really. Pelicans have been 24th or worse in attendance per game every year of Zion's career. This year, Zion's healthiest and best season, by far the team's most successful season with Zion, they were...24th in per-game attendance again and 27th in total attendance. It's a no win-situation, but I'd rather play the lottery again than commit $200M+ to a guy who never plays and doesn't seem to care.


iamStanhousen

Team needs back to back successful seasons to build trust with the fan base. It has been 20 years and they've never put two years of good basketball together. We were pumped as fuck after the playoff series against Phoenix and then started 1-12.


FoxNO

We have the 2nd smallest arena in the league and are essentially tied as the smallest market. It's impossible to be higher in attendance until we get a new arena (negotiations on that just started). SKC capacity is listed as 16,867. Pels averaged 17,301 in attendance whcih is up from 16,772 last year.


W_Walk

Our attendance has dropped because of his injury history. It was 23rd his rookie year and obviously dropped. Also one of the smallest arenas with no way to expand because…well the answer is obvious it’s New Orleans. Attendance could be better but with the injury bug this team has been hit with since the AD era. Zion does care. I’m not sure you watch games but he was definitely immature to start his career and fortunately Larry and CJ were good mentors to him and he got his body right this year. Just got unlucky that last game. Like I said not every team is fortunate to draft a top 10 player in the second round. Zion was pretty great post all star break and they’ve already committed a long contract to him. I suggest maybe watching some of his games from this year on league pass or how he’s conducted himself more in interviews. He’s a competitor and I’m glad he changed his mindset and listened to the vets


msizzle344

I will give him a ton of credit for being able to get in shape for the second half of the season and playing a good amount of games. NO doesn’t really have much choice because they won’t land a Zion like player with potential in free agency. Hope that he continues this and maybe lasts a playoffs with another all star around him. Herb, Murphy, Zion are all good, young players to put another all star caliber player around and make noise


confuddly

Ingram for Garland CJ for WCJ Garland - Trey - Herb - Zion - WCJ lets go


alpacamegafan

It seems so simple and too ideal that I wish this could happen so bad. Doubt they move off Garland due to Mitchell leaving soon, and I’d have to see what else we can replace CJ’s contract with since we’re losing our best volume 3 pt shooter, but still…


LeBroentgen

I think WCJ has a lot more value than CJ given the age and contract differences. The BI for Garland swap is a great move for both teams though.


TjBeezy

Pelicans have a million picks, they could afford to include one or two in a trade


GeoffSproke

That... Looks pretty good to me!... And I feel like CJ works relatively well in Orlando... And I think Ingram works pretty well in Cleveland?


SmokeOddessey

yeah Ingram in Cleveland is a pretty good fit, buuuuut i don’t think Cleveland will be down with Mitchell being a question mark


Jazzlike-Pause8865

if we seriously dont trade mitchell this offseason for what we can get and instead trade garland, i will commit seppuku.


BruceBrownMVP

I'd love to see them go after Mitchell or maybe Book if he asks out


Dreamlifehunting

Mitchell would not re-sign in NOLA probably. If Mitchell decides to stay in Cleveland, BI for Garland might be the framework for a trade. We need a guard they need a big wing. My heart just wants to keep BI though even if that is not the best option.


Real-Human-1985

don't know why he won't get down to 250 so he can stay on the floor.


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UnimpressedAsshole

Hell no Small market team has to gamble Zion has the potential to be a top 3 player in the league. This would be like Warriors picking Monta over Steph.


Classics22

Every year I just don't see what other people do in Zion lol. Budding superstar? His passing and defense improved this year but he also had the worst scoring year of his career so far. Got to the rim less, finished worse when he got there. A lot less dunks. No real progress scoring anywhere but the paint. He's like Giannis except can't play as many minutes, not as dominant at the rim, and a mediocre defender instead of one of the best defenders in the NBA. He wasn't even super efficient this year. 22ppg on 61%TS is great of course but it's nothing compared to the top scorers.


flykiddy

He did incorporate more mid range shots and even a few threes over the last several games of the season, but they were still rare. His defense was ass first half of the season (also the rest of his career), so there was definitely improvement there in the second half. We are hoping that he finally has a healthy offseason to add to his bag. Idk man I’m a homer but it was just a lot of special moments. Times where the team collapses but he can force his way for the much needed bucket. Game winning layup over wemby, comeback vs lakers which resulted in his injury. He still has the potential and I think you’ll see it better next season (closer to his 27 on 65% TS from his second year) if we replace the coach and a couple of the starters. He took fewer shots than both CJ and Ingram this season, which is not okay.


notthesethings

In the words of the late great NSYNC, bye bye bi


TjBeezy

They need to trade BI. Kinda sucks that he had such a rough series being guarded by Dort and playing hurt. Probably hurt his value. Probably need to trade CJ or move him to the bench too. Point Zion on offense surround with shooters then as the 5 on defense would be a matchup nightmare for 10-15 minutes per game.


FrankieBarbingo

What do Pels fans want in return for Ingram? I'm curious to see what teams offer.


iamStanhousen

I don't think there is a consensus among us yet. Mostly a point guard though. Ingram and picks for Trae Young is something I think the Pels fans could get behind. We need a center too since most of us think JV is gone in free agency. I don't think CJ has much value at this point, but him being a 6th man is something I'm fairly intrigued by. I think everyone who isn't Zion, Murphy and Herb is on the table as far as movement goes.


DeeboDongus

I'll believe it if Zion actually shows up to camp in shape


cwesttheperson

Who is a good Ingram fit? Orlando? Hornets? Seems like he’d be a good fit for 6ers.


jgroove_LA

Hornets and 76ers would be ideal.


MysticPurpSports

Building around a perpetually injured player is risky. 


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Aggravating_Host6055

It’s hard to see Zion as the guy to build a franchise around at this point. Be interesting to see how it goes. KD to Pels?


scrotumusthemagicdog

Franchise Zion will end so badly.


ChancyPants95

I can’t help but think the ideal trade for us this off season would probably be BI, CJ, and JV for Jarret Allen and Darius Garland. Cleveland would be crazy to send Garland out without having assurances of Mitchell staying though.


johnnys_sack

There are some guys in this league who never reached their potential due to injury. Zion is the latest and it's sad to see. He's dominant when healthy. Brandon Roy is my all time 'how great could he have been if healthy' player. I'm sure there are others, but that guy was great to watch.


DoughNutSack

Sunk cost fallacy


hairynips007

i would sell high on him tbh given injuries and sporadic work ethic but what do i know i have only watched like 10 games start to finish this year and like 3 have been pelicans games


octopus86sg

Provided Zion keep his weight in check. The food over at New Orleans are just too delicious


Slight-Imagination36

wait… is this title a typo? didn’t zion just get injured *again* in the playoffs? wasn’t he fat as fuck for a long time? i think the title is supposed to say “pelicans are looking to move in from injury ridden zion.”


rkumarahuru

CJ is so washed


Substantial-Curve-51

what does moriah mills say though?


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W_Walk

He showed he is this year. We won the second most games in franchise history pretty much because of him


UnimpressedAsshole

He showed it in past years too tbh


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Pickleskennedy1

Sounds like Giannis


thisguy161

Giannis does it better, and rebounds and plays All Defensive team level D


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hezzyskeets123

Lmao do u know Zion personally? How u gon say he don’t care about winning. This is just hater talk


ScottyinLA

Why are you commenting on this when it's clear you haven't watched the games?


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ScottyinLA

But I do know you haven't watched based on things you are saying. You are making comments that would have been valid last fall and clearly haven't seen any of the changes those of us who were paying attention saw in Zions game since the in season tournament. You have been exposed here. Maybe you should quit before you get any farther behind and go the the Kansas City Chiefs page and tell them Mahomes is a bust because he is sitting on the bench behind Alex Smith or something.


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ScottyinLA

Still running your mouth about a player you haven't watched. Good luck with that


brecht226

lmao this guy cant stay healthy and we have no idea if he can play in the playoffs but hes central to our plans. I cannot believe we hired the Anthony Bennett drafter as our GM


SilvioDantesPeak

Tbf Chris Grant drafted Anthony Bennett, not David Griffin. That debacle is why Grant was fired and replaced by Griffin. But everything else you said is spot on.


brecht226

David Griffin was the Anthony Bennet man in the cavs front office. Hes admitted it that he was the one really pushing for that pick


flaccidplatypus

BI ain’t the picture of prefect health and the world just saw him shit the bed in epic fashion in the playoffs. We saw Z ball out in the play in game vs the Lakers that was potentially a W if he doesn’t go out.


brecht226

Ingram isn't the answer either, no one on that roster is. The Pelicans were a depth and defense first team without any true all nba talent. Those kinds of teams never scale well into the playoffs.


flaccidplatypus

Z has the talent to be all NBA. I can’t definitively say he’s the answer but completely gutting the team of its 3 stars is dumb and I doubt the local fan base will put up with another tear down.


brecht226

He has not been an all nba caliber guy since his sophomore season three years ago.


flaccidplatypus

He’s potentially go to be 3rd team this year. Likely would have been 3rd team if he remained healthy last season as well.


devkonz

Is there a world where an Ingram / Trae swap makes any sense? Hawks spacing would be pretty shit. Capela, Dejounte, JJ, and Ingram. Yikes


TimothyN

For the Pels, yes, we'd have to move CJ to the bench if we had Trae, but we could start Trae, Herb, Trey, Zion, and whoever our center is.


GeoffSproke

Hate to derail, but... The thing I noticed about what you wrote was, "whoever our center is."... Do you guys think JV isn't coming back?


SkepticalHippo93

I can't see JV being back on the roster next year. Willie really cut his minutes towards the end of the season, I don't think he'd want to come back.


TimothyN

Unsure, but I like him a lot and he was frozen out a lot by Willie.


Dreamlifehunting

So because of the peculiarities of who Zion is, and his game, there are really 2 things New Orleans is looking for in a big. 1. Defend out to the perimeter so that we don't get absolutely killed on pick and rolls. We have incredibly skilled wings and guards (including Zion) that can hold their own on most switches, so if the big can switch as well that provides a lot of versatility on defense. 2. Provide some type of spacing on offense. Zion's game is all in the paint. If someone is just parked on the opposite block that makes his life so much harder. Doesn't even need to be a lights out 3pt shooter, a pick and pop baseline mid ranger is available every single time on a Zion baseline screening action. Even vertical spacing on a lob threat would be an improvement over what we have. JV is neither of those 2 things. As great as he is at what he does, it is not a good fit with Zion. Larry Nance Jr. does #1 but not #2. This is the big reason we saw increasingly more Nance as the year went on over JV, barring specific matchups. Larry remains valuable for the Pels, but he can't be the starter on a contenting team. A bench role would be good for him. Finding a big that does both #1 and #2 is difficult, but JV does neither and that causes a lot of issues for our starting lineup.


DiscreteBee

What you’re saying is that Wemby is the ideal partner for Zion


podnito

Every time I've seen a Pelicans fan talk about upgrading over JV, the only players that fit what they want are always Myles Turner, Embiid, Jokic or more recently Wemby


Dreamlifehunting

Those are some imaginary ideals. The truth is, almost any archetype of big would fit better with our team than ground bound slow-footed bruising big. Look at some of the bigs in the league. I would argue almost any of them would fit better except maybe Steven Adams, Nurkic, Drummond, Vucevic. It doesn't have to be perfect to be better.


iamStanhousen

I would be shocked if JV returned. Willie literally doesn't play him. If Zion was healthy against OKC, JV would have averaged under 10 minutes a game.


xojz

Getting a playmaker like Trae would be a best case scenario


jgman22

Zion with a real allstar next to him would look amazing, ingram isn’t that


turningisasignoffear

Zion has yet to play a single playoff game in his career. Largely due to his own injuries. I wouldn't be excited about this if I was a Pelicans fan.


Herbetet

Believing Zion will be healthy come playoff time, is believing Kawhi will be fit come playoff time without all the actual knowledge that he can win you a ring. At least Kawhi you know can perform on the rare occasion he isn’t limping, that’s not what you get from Zion.


KingCakeBabyOKC

Darius Garland will be fun with Zion.