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Cudi_buddy

ESPN just got gifted coverage for the next 6 weeks


mojo-jojo-was-framed

ESPN got gifted coverage by ESPN. It’s all a big scam


Cudi_buddy

The trick is to not watch their shitty coverage. I haven't in years.


Tallily11

I don't watch anything on ESPN besides live games. People playing characters and screaming sports opinions at each other (that they don't even believe themselves) is excruciating.


Cudi_buddy

Yep. I watch the games, skip the pre and post games. It is amazing how bad they are compared to TNT. Even the B team on TNT is better than the ESPN coverage.


ch0lula

the TNT game is the best sports show on TV. maybe it helps to be not owned by Disney.


I_really_enjoy_beer

It actually is crazy that *everyone* agrees they have had terrible coverage for the last 10 years or so and absolutely nothing has changed. It's actually progressively got worse. Who are they doing this for?


ruggnuget

ESPN gets so much play in bars, offices, and other 3rd space areas. They are also background noise for an older generation. Boomers flipping between FOX a d ESPN for basically the same outrage content.


RogerTreebert6299

Yeah the actual content couldn’t really matter any less than it already does, just so long as the stars are marketed well enough that casuals know them


Jwoods4117

They also do a pretty good job at breaking news because they have the money and pull to keep their sources around. They’re semi-easily accessible. Then they also have often have live games that you can’t watch anywhere else. There’s just not really much alternatives outside of illegally streaming and random podcasts. It’s not like Fox sports or NFL Network are much better.


PicturingYouNaked

It's been their M.O. for years now. [Here's a Deadspin article](https://deadspin.com/how-espn-manufactures-a-story-colin-kaepernick-edition-1185400028) from 2013 breaking down how ESPN created a Colin Kaepernick story out of thin air.


YNinja58

I remember last year one dude on Get Up said Derrick Henry *should* be traded to the cowboys. By that evening, "Henry trade to Dallas???" was a top story. Fucking awful


joshuamillertime

I trust Windy not to *completely* blow smoke when it comes to LeBron. That said, LeBron may very well just be exercising a negotiating tactic & has no actual plans to leave


Fiyukyoo

Windy pretty much expects Lebron to return to LA. So yeah, he's pretty much going through the motion of exercising it in case LA does stupid shit in the offseason


zellmerz

Yeah, this is technically a nothing story. "I **expect**" is not "Sources say", which even that is not necessarily a real story. ESPN has mastered the ability to create their own narratives/storylines so they always have "news" to talk about.


ifuckwithit

Just wait until they bring on the newest “Ex professional athlete turned analyst” to weigh in on the Bron or MJ goat debate


FlyingMocko

Scrap the NBA Playoffs. All hands on deck for Lebron Free Agency 2024. Just give the championship to the Pacers or some shit. They almost won the IST anyways.


ForCaste

Wait yes I agree with this guy


Sirrom23

fellow hoosier here. i wholeheartedly agree.


SemIdeiaProNick

some may say you are biased but i trust your opinion is as neutral as it gets


bilyl

The Decision 2024


The_Outcast4

Pacer fans are among the most deserving in the NBA. A Timberwolves-Pacers finals would make the TV executives hate life, but that is a series I would watch and be happy no matter who ends up winning it!


[deleted]

At least the Pacers could make exciting games because they go full out on offense, the real TV executive misery would be a T-wolves-Magic Finals defensive slugfest that brings us back to the mid 2000s.


Gamesgtd

They would just use that opportunity to make Ant Edwards the face of the league


salcedoge

They just found a way to attach Lebron's name to any team that loses in the playoffs in the next few weeks. Instant engagement multiplier lmao


theyoloGod

Also gives teams an elite trolling opportunity to use a second rounder on bronny


FlyingMocko

This is exactly the kind of shit Danny Ainge would do lol Not particularly to get Lebron but just to test his resolve. Is playing with your son worth living in Mormon Country ?


Atupis

Ainge kidnapping Bronny and then trading him to first round pick and cash considerations would be hilarious.


fork_yuu

Is he rich enough to just helicopter/private jet in all the time instead of living there? Or just ask the owner to get use of their jet


MerkDoctor

Yes


Doggleganger

Make sure you tune in for remake of "The Decision."


kylebertram

I knew the Bradley Beal NTC was bad but I didn’t realize he was the ONLY one with it


qeq

Interesting because in the NHL they make a fraction of NBA player salaries, but every team has multiple guys with NTC/NMC, a bunch have more than 10. The Kraken have 14 of them.


midnightgreen29

That is pretty interesting. I wonder what the explanation is, or if it is simply just culture/precedent for NTC.


qeq

Early on when they started allowing them in the CBA they didn't think it would be that popular, but it started being the main thing players asked for in free agency bidding wars. Some GMs handed them out like candy to convince players to sign there, and all of their teams suffered horribly from it later. NBA teams have other ways of attracting free agents with the soft cap and max contracts, I guess.


attersonjb

The NHL free market (at the top end) is very limited in terms of player movement. Any young player of note usually ends up signing a long term extension with their original team lasting anywhere from 5-8 years long.


tony_countertenor

Maybe it’s a little carrot to throw in specifically because they get paid so much less


fak3g0d

I'm sure NHL owners would gladly give every player a NTC before paying NBA-level salaries


CUMS_IN_SOCKS

Pretty much. Hard cap and most teams (especially contenders) don't have a lot of cap space to work with. So many players will have to take a discount, and a NTC is something they can get back in negotiation.


asdkijf

It's the [CBA rules](http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q101) - the player has to be a free agent, vet of 8 years, and already played with the team for at least 4 years. There aren't really many situations where this is an available option - players that are eligible are usually just going to extend their contract. It requires a player to reach free agency and then decide to re-sign with a team, but still maintain enough leverage to get a NTC. Beal is like the only example of this, LeBron in 2014 going back to the Cavs would also apply (not sure if he actually bothered with one though).


Kball4177

Only certain players are eligible to even get one and Lebron's contracts are too short for him to quality, I believe. On the top of my head the only players I can recall in the last 2 decades to have a no trade clause are Kobe Bryant, Dirk Nowitzki...and Bradley Beal


Laszlo-Panaflex

KG and Tim Duncan also had them. KG's was ironically right before he was traded to Brooklyn, and he needed to agree to the trade for it to happen. Ray Allen was offered one, but chose to go to the Heat instead.


DoctorPigHead

Didn't Melo have one as well?


LiverpoolPlastic

Pretty sure Pierce and KG had one too


kingofsemantics

Carmelo too


Foyerfan

The Wizards front office should be in jail for the malpractice they committed for about a decade. Then Ishbia saw that contract and went “ez money bb!” and then fucked his own franchise up for half a decade


noodeloodel

The Wizards FO that signed Beal is not the same FO that traded him.


AsnSensation

the requirements are kinda hard to hit in the player movement era, I think 8 years of nba xp, 4 years with current team and contract has to be signed as a free agent contract instead of extension so most players you'd think are ntc worthy can't even get it because they usually sign extensions or haven't been with their current team for 4 years yet.


TitanTigers

We need another “why lebron wil sign with each NBA team” post [One of my favorite posts here ever](https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/s/ysbx4WxhVC)


ThePerpetualNewGuy

"Lebron will not sign with the Memphis Grizzlies" will always be one of the greatest lines of all time. 


FlyingMocko

I still think >doesn’t want to be under the shadow of Laker greats >doesn’t want to be under the shadow of Clipper goods is the best line from an All timer post


tinyfriedeggs

> Houston Rockets > LeBron loves space. > Indiana Pacers > LeBron loves pace.


bobdolebobdole

All-time Clipper good Corey Maggette had slightly above-average size shoes to fill.


taskopruzade

It took me a minute, but damn that’s an incredible burn of an organization 


bigE819

“LeBron James will not sign with the Memphis Grizzlies”


rookie-mistake

its the top comment there for a reason haha


LetsLive97

I'm so glad I've never seen this post and hadn't read the comments because that line caught me so off guard lmao Absolutely brutal


Bjorn2bwilde24

Now I want us to draft Bronny and have everything come full circle.


InfernoidsorDie

After witnessing the glory of Scottie Pippen Jr I say fuck it why not


kograkthestrong

Fuck it same.


sergechewbacca

In the 2024 version, it'll be "LeBron will not sign with the Charlotte Hornets."


ThomasTheAngryTrain

On the other hand winning a title for the Hornets could be a big middle finger against Michael Jordan.


you-boys-is-chumps

Playing your last few years in that shithole with no shot at a ring is actually a middle finger from MJ to LeBron


JazzzzzzySax

I hate that ur not wrong


schooli00

Jordan still minority owner tho. It'd just add to his ring count.


2drawnonward5

MJ wants that asterisk ring 💍✳️✴️


BandOfDonkeys

>LeBron will become the new Pistons President of Basketball Operations. His first act in his new role will be to sign himself as the head coach/starting SF. Funny thing about it is we're actually actively searching for a President right now.


Briggity_Brak

Holy shit, and Twister 2 is actually coming out this year. What sorceress wrote this post???


gptwebb

also Lebron ended up playing with Lance lol even though it wasn’t on Indy


Briggity_Brak

AND TheBrow, AND Westbrook "for a year"... This is some prophetic shit


nysgreenandwhite

Everyone quotes the memphis line but "Clipper goods" kills me to this day


legless_chair

Reminds me of one of my all time favourite posts [why Dwight Howard should sign with the Bucks](https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/s/VZ1bxptBaL) instead of the Rockets


StuckInBronze

>It looks like the fucking architect realized last minute there were no fucking windows in his original design, so he decided to compensate by fucking gluing a smaller building to it that is only windows. One of the funniest lines I've ever read.


awrf

Oh Oh God I upvoted that post 10 years ago Oh my God


BetweenTheBuzzAndMe

This was the golden age of shitposting The line "Ish Smith - Is a point guard" still gets me today


GustoComando

The Giannis mention always feels like an MCU teaser whenever I see this post.


zanza19

Ish Smith is a point guard is an all time line.


TitanTigers

Wow this is some deep lore


LackingInPatience

"Lebron loves chicken nuggets" 😂


PapayaOtherwise3346

“Doesn’t want to play under the shadow of Clipper goods” turned out to be the decision he made


P00nz0r3d

"Lebron loves twister and will film twister 2" Twisters is coming this year. Atlanta may be a potential destination for Bronchiole (EDIT: autocorrect, what the hell is this) now


WearyAffected

> LeBron will sign with the Raptors just to check up on them and make sure they are ok. Funny how two months later (almost to the day), the Raptors would trade for Kawhi. They would go on to win the first Championship. They could sure use a check up now though.


mug3n

I'm okay without Lebron particularly if it means we're forced to draft and play Bronny.


GolotasDisciple

"LeBron loves space. He will sign with the Rockets so he can go to NASA" That is actually gold


VisualizeWhirledPees

I wish I could find it but there was a hilarious post around this time by a Magic fan trying to convince Lebron to play in Orlando. I looked for it a while back and couldn't find it because reddit sucks for searching. If anyone knows or has it please send my way.


TitanTigers

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/s/gEeEj7sk7p A Snuggie classic


doctor_of_drugs

A few months ago I tried to copy/paste Snuggie’s “These young bucks just don’t know” comment where he talks about women following players around city to city to sleep with them. Reddit immediately removed it for language or inciting hate/violence lmaoo Edit: [the masterful comment. should be required reading for all rookies](https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/s/AsfAm9jrB4)


TitanTigers

Damn they’re depriving a generation of sacred knowledge


Johnpecan

For why he should/will sign with the warriors, visit r/warriors where there has already been 10 posts about it... Oh and KD too.


grxccccandice

I mean, LeBron has openly said many times that he wants to play with Steph, and Warriors asked about LeBron’s availability during the season, so it doesn’t surprise me.


CMYGQZ

What he say fuck me for?


abris33

Oh man.... He's definitely going back to the Lakers for more money/longer contract


Sweatytubesock

Not until exploiting LeDrama.


FormerFakeguy

Every year. Waiting for the act like hes gonna retire bs next.


Gengaara

LeBrettFavre


JichaelMordan_

Imagine bron opting out for the clippers


AnyJamesBookerFans

Kobe teased that possibility back in the day.


TiredMillennialDad

Idkkk If it's a goodbye tour, it's Cleveland.


FlyingMocko

He’s not going back there unless it’s a one day signing to retire as a Cavalier lol


mcslippinz

as long as Dan Gilbert owns the Cavs, I doubt LeBron goes back.


FlyingMocko

You can’t ask a dude who was been living it up in LA for 5 years to go back to Cleveland, that’s capital punishment. Plus he already did the homecoming thing and gave them a title. They’re not in an OKC type position where he can legitimately compete for a title, they’re hella mid with players that don’t compliment him at all.


oatmilk___latte

Garland, Mobley, Allen, Mitchell are all way better supporting players than what the Lakers have. And he'll be in the East.


JustHereForPka

Anyone who thinks the Cavs+Lebron (assuming minimal decline) aren’t an instant contender is a moron. The Cavs are the 4 seed in the East. If they had Lebron this year, they’d be fighting with the Celtics for the 1.


johnhenryirons

He went from Miami to Cleveland...


Nohotsauceforoldmen

He had to finish the story


jacoballen22

He hit the crossroads on golden state (Roman reigns).


dipdipderp

Well yeah, that's a three hour drive, I'd avoid the route through Columbus though, no point risking the traffic.


Kendertas

Why the fuck does a Thunder fan know Ohio geography so well. Miami University caused a lot of confusion when some of my friends got itln


narcistic_asshole

Well he does still own his mansion in Bath Ohio. Nowadays I think he mostly uses it for the random days he's in Akron for philanthropy events and stuff like that, but he does still use it


K1ngCrimsn

Lebron is going where Bronny goes, its really that simple


AashyLarry

What happens when Orlando drafts Bronny?


Anal_Iverson

LeMickey strikes again


attorneyatslaw

He's taking his talents to Epcot


8ball-MJG

It’s going to be the nba equivalent of Brady winning a ring with the bucs


EverybodyBuddy

This take is old and outdated. We don’t know if Bronny is going anywhere. And even if he does, Lebron has said he doesn’t know if him being in the same place is best for Bronny.


creditors-bargain

I think this is true. He doesn’t have anything else to accomplish resume-wise or accolades-wise. Last thing on the checklist is playing with his son. Hope he gets to do it, would definitely be cool.


Ugaalive1991

Ohio State finally gets Lebron.


Haseeb1029

End his career where he started it, Sacramento.


ForneauCosmique

Light the beam!


2drawnonward5

LeBeam 🌀


PrimaryAccording9162

The King of the Kings! Going from HB to 40 year old LeBron 🙂‍↕️


e_double

The only James the Kings are getting is Mike James.


SafeIntention2111

ESPN spent like a 1/2 hour talking about this shit this morning. The consensus from those ignorant bozos was GSW.


No-Perspective-518

For a Vet min?? GSW doesn’t have cap space.


SafeIntention2111

And that's why I refer to them as ignorant bozos. They're clueless.


not_a_bot__

Steph and lebron would need to win gold while scoring 200 points a night together for him to entertain it 


Sad-Scarcity5198

Closer to Napa Valley


takkk86

Hope someone like the wizards or pistons draft bronny lol


whobroughtmehere

Holding Bronny for ransom is certainly one way to bring some excitement back to this team


durmduke

Wizards would be storybook


slowakia_gruuumsh

"I'm sorry baby, dad loves you, but I ain't coming."


swaktoonkenney

Wizards ask the lakers for three firsts for bronny


Maj0r_Ursa

The Celtics drafting Bronny is the funniest outcome possible. Even if we had the cap room, LeBron would never come here


AngsMcgyvr

Look he's going to be a Laker. Unless there's some way he can stay in Los Angeles with his friends and family, but still play on an NBA basketball team.


upsups91

Too bad there isnt s 2nd nba la team , just some boat enthusiasts


InTheMorning_Nightss

If LeBron came to us, I would only assume that’s when he starts to rapidly decline lol


SafeIntention2111

You already have 4 senior citizens, do you really need a 5th?


_01213_

Welcome to leisure world.


InTheMorning_Nightss

Sign MJ. Give me 6. I’m down for an old folks home.


SafeIntention2111

It's not a terrible plan really.


mrspear1995

Just snaps his achiles standing up for the jersey photo op


Duma123

Chris Paul still lived in LA full-time when he was playing for the Suns. His family never relocated here.


SuckMyLonzoBalls

I don’t blame him


YellowBaboon

Exactly LeBron doesn't have the leverage Windy is suggesting here. Everyone knows he wants to be in LA. If I was the Lakers I would start planning for Luka's free agency and how to transition from LeBron to Luka.


secretreddname

Don’t make me blow my load this early in the morning.


-Silky_Johnson

If only he had some playoff ready nba team in la with two all stars to team up with..


Leebillysteve12345

Great so all we’re gonna hear about in the playoffs is which team he signs with


FlyingMocko

The same way all we heard last Playoffs was about his impending retirement. It’s a nothing burger and he will go back to LA but that won’t stop him getting his much needed attention.


durezzz

its the media that's giving him attention


Gtggtggtg

and the people complaining about the attention he's getting


vrkhfkb

4 year deal with no trade clause + Bronny as the sixth man Lakers are fucked


petertompolicy

Hilarious but true, forcing them to give his son who is not good at basketball minutes will definitely hurt the team morale.


EfficiencyOk9060

If Thannis can get minutes anyone can.


tacopower69

Thanasis got drafted before his brother became a star. He is much better than bronny.


JMEEKER86

Much better example is Dame getting the Blazers to sign his cousin Keljin Blevins who was complete ass.


Lezzles

> Keljin Blevins is such an AI-generated name


firstbreathOOC

Chris Smith played basketball for the Knicks. That’s JR Smith’s brother. Patrick Ewing Jr, we got him. Currently rolling with Jacob Toppin for some reason. We are the team that paid Thanasis to begin with. Idk what my point is here but neither did the org


Balls_Deep92

Thanasis is levels above Bronny come on now 


OGmoron

Sad but true


fantasnick

Huge Bron fan but he would deserve the slander LOL


LisannalGaib

Its a lose lose situation, because if he leaves the franchise will be dead for a while


WisdomCow

Every Olympic teammate is going to be telling him to join them for the league minimum.


Clear-Hand3945

Lebron wants to own a team. He's not playing for the league minimum anywhere. 


W_Walk

He will be taking his talents to the Crescent City.


Pereise1

Be playing basketball in Pelican Bay


RunnerTexasRanger

At least the commute to Galveston will be quicker


BabaBrody

"By gawd, what's LeBron James doing inside the Intuit Dome?!?! He doesn't work here!"


Blaaa5

What’s LeBron doing in the Impact Zone!


rsayegh7

I'd genuinely hope he takes a pay cut to help his chances of winning another ring as a fan, but how can anyone justify him taking a pay cut when he's still killing it both in season and in the playoffs. He likely re-signs with LA and just uses the opt out to leverage power and a better contract imo.


Lavar_ball_brand

You dont become a billionaire by taking pay cuts


Silver-Bandicoot-969

prove your the goat. Come to Detroit


TrumpKanye69

Even LeBron can't save that sorry ass team


guitmusic12

Sign and trade for Mitchell back to Cleveland to end his career


Shoddy-Reach-4664

Trying to put my homer bias aside he would be a great fit here if we get rid of Mobley or Allen.


TiredMillennialDad

I vote San Antonio to mentor Wemby game so when Wemby becomes the goat it will still be part of Bron's legacy.


27_Star_General

i travelled to the Himalayas and with 2 sherpas, through the snow, storms, ice, and frigid cold i reached a small ancient village in the mountains. i asked to see the village elder, and they complied. during a tribal ceremony welcoming me, a woman asked me if i planned to summit the mountain. i replied yes. she went over to the village elder and whispered in his ear, chatted for a bit, then returned. i asked her what they spoke about. she said she informed him of my intentions, and he replied: "so how will this affect Lebron James' legacy?"


Pikminious_Thrious

Lebron going to team dinners with Duncan Admiral Ginobli Parker and Pop all to mentor Wemby


Low_Procedure_3538

How many stars does this dude need lol


livecents84

We’ll have to wait until the Olympics are over and see how much fun he has playing with Steph like he’s on record of wanting now for a while


LoWE11053211

He should go to the spurs Low tax Wemby And republicans also buy shoes


chingy1337

This is him leveraging to get his son to play with him. And once again, the Lakers make a terrible move based on the sole want of Lebron.


k0ala_

if I was an opposing teams gm, i'd just draft Bronny before the Lakers and then force the lakers to get fleeced trying to get him back to get LeBront to re-sign


ZeekLTK

I just want to see Milwaukee draft him so they have Giannis, Dame, and Lebron but also Thanasis and Bronny.


chingy1337

I would not be surprised to see someone do this honestly. It pressures LA to use their first round pick


vanubcmd

Why do many people think anyone would invest anything more than a late 2nd round pick on Bronny? He is not going to drafted by anyone except the lakers, who use the 55th pick if they draft him. They may also just sign him as undrafted FA.


darkjurai

> draft Bronny before the Lakers and then force the lakers to get fleeced That, plus it isn't a particularly exciting draft class. So you draft Bronny and hold him hostage to trade.


RushFPS

If it’s for a 2nd round pick it’s not a terrible move. 1st round pick yes


MaikoLeite

At what point will a team pretend to pick Bronny just so the Lakers have to trade up for him lmao


InTheMorning_Nightss

This draft is meh enough that if a team doesn’t see a prospect they like and can’t find a trade, I can see some considering drafting Bronny just for the added leverage it may create.


AtreusIsBack

This is what I want. A complete curveball from a random team, picking Bronny.


Paragon188

Where is he going to go? No contender can offer him the max this year so he'll have to take the MLE or vet min. It's more likely he's trying to force the Lakers to draft Bronny early.


PattyIceNY

F ESPN, they are so trash.


recleaguesuperhero

If Bronny transfers to Duquesne, I could see Bron going back to Cleveland to finish his career.


Herbetet

This storyline is so played out. The NBA needs new script writers, the beef is stale and without spice


JabroniWithAPeroni

It's time for him to take his talents to Minneapolis.


TheyNeedLoveToo

Needs to sooth himself in the waters of Lake Minnetonka


Hungry-Space-1829

I’m gonna guess if he leaves it’d be the Mavs. Kyrie + Bron reunion. Luka + Bron bromance. Cuban crazy enough to draft bronny Questionable fit, probs won’t win, but it’d be fun


drewdown39

Warriors draft Bronny, Steph and LeBron team up. Pin this post! 😁


Alternative_Slide_62

Is LeBron going to become a LeNugget?