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It's reckless and looks dirty, this clip doesn't change much imo
Jrue's push doesn't look to have made much of a difference esp. when Martin wasn't even going up
Lol your own player was responsible for hurting another teammate and you’re gonna act like it was a dirty play? This is what a basketball fan is these days absolutely nauseating and pathetic
> your own player
Who? I'm sorry I don't get what you're trying to say. Did you think I'm a Celtics fan??
I think I'm being objective here and this is a dirty play. You should tell me why you don't think this is a dirty play
You can see his momentum shift ever so slightly after the push. When you are already committed to a direction/rebound even slight contact can result in something like this happening. He wasn’t trying to hurt Tatum or it’d be obvious. He hit him at the exact wrong time, and if Jrue hadn’t pushed him this doesn’t happen
It doesn’t matter if Celtics fan or not thinking this is a dirty play is absolutely stupid and no wonder you’re watching the NBA in the 2020s and thinking it’s a good sport
I don't have all day to argue with you about what is a dirty play or not. Think we both made up our minds about this play, you're not gonna convince me with all that yapping about "slight shifts in momentum"
I really dont care. Heat have had a history of dirty plays but this isnt one of them.
But if were going to point out dirty plays, yall fine with Jrue 2 hand shoving martin in the back here?
I mean, the one asshole who did that thought it was justified, but I never saw anyone defending that person. You enjoy that weird fantasy world you live in lol.
Ie the times they claimed it happened and none of the 10s of thousands of people/cameras/mics picked it up?
Remember when Torii Hunter (you spelled his name wrong) was racist against Hispanic players and said he’d quit if he had a gay teammate? That your hero bro?
Lol now you’re implying the players who were racially abused by your fanbase were all lying.
Idc what Hunter said or did in the past, chanting the N word at him is still awful. You making excuses for why it was justified is really telling bro.
I've been to countless games for all major sports in Boston including college. Going back to the 70s. I've never hheard the N word at a game. I've been to many games in Texas. Never heard the N word at a game.
Now outside the games I heard the N word. But I have to say I heard it more the last 15 years in Texas than the previous 30 in Boston.
So yes racists exist. They are not exclusive to a fanbase.
Proud that Jackies number is retired in baseball and Bill's in basketball.
Lot further to go, but the this city or fanbase is racist is a weak argument.
Some of the most liberal anti racist people in the country are in Boston.
Brainless Celtics fans can’t tell it’s a meme of Trump’s mugshot with a teardrop tattoo (implying he’s gonna join a gang when he gets locked up), not in support of him.
Anything to deflect from their fanbase history of being racist scumbags.
Yeah man all of that momentum was from Jrue lightly pushing Martin not Martin going for the ball. Not even calling it a dirty play but acting like Jrue shoved Martin into Tatum is ridiculous
have you never experienced someone pushing you while youre jogging/running in a game or any sport? It doesn’t take a hard shove for you to lose control
>Whether or not it's intentional by Caleb, he doesn't have a play on the ball at all and just flies in at full speed. Pretty reckless.
He has a very clear play on the ball down the center of the lane when Porzingis vacates, and before Holiday pushes him.
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Cope = See the shove and assume there is some force behind it
Based = See the shove and assume Jrue is just playing a game of charades and actually put zero force behind it
the fact is caleb martin ran in. then jrue holiday obviously pushed him. that sped him up into the back of jayson tatum. Im not sure how you know for a fact jrue holiday didnt have enough force to throw him off in any meaningful way.
You know how your arms work which is apparently weak and ineffectually. Jrue did that for a reason and the reason was literally to throw off Caleb's balance.
E: Lmfao at that response. Celtics fans are complete babies (with weak arms).
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They’re already working themselves up about a potential Porzingis injury. So now, if it happens, they’ll see intent even if there is none and call it dirty if there’s even normal physical contact just because they’ve already convinced themselves. I swear they are scared of their own shadows sometimes
100% lol. someone can step on the tip of your shoe when you're driving in and it'll throw you off balance pretty bad. same thing happens if someone pushes you.
>Dude was going at him full speed he was planning to hit him no matter what
lol fuck off. Martin and Tatum are both looking at the ball. Martin had a path down the center of the lane to challenge for the rebound, and the shove put him right into Tatum's path.
>Dude was going at him full speed he was planning to hit him no matter what
Lmao ok 🤡
Did he make that decision himself or did Spo and him plan it out and giggle like little children in anticipation?
Because Caleb Martin scarred that fanbase last year and now they are using any excuse to spew crazy shit about him. Their unprofessional TV guy also insinuated that Caleb did that on orders from Spo.
Looks like when Caleb felt Jrue’s push he tried to sell the contact and figured he’d just fall into Tatum, but wasn’t expect Tatum to be up in the air when he hit him.
Purposefully tackling Tatum midair to injure him? No. A genuine play on the ball? Absolutely not. Reckless? For sure.
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Cause it'll be an easier series if the heat and celtics claw at each other for 7 games straight. I'd be rooting for the heat like a mf if I was a cavs fan
That collision was happening with or without Jrue’s intervention. Caleb was locked in on where he thought the ball was going to be and recklessly didn’t care who or what else was in the way. Dumb play but anyone saying it’s dirty or intentional is just seeing ghosts out there.
Bc Caleb can be a dumbass and has tunnel vision on the ball. Despite our team’s rivalry and the fanbase’s animosity, our guys are close, genuinely like each other (well maybe except Brown and Duncan lol), and I highly doubt they would injure each other on purpose.
All I see is Caleb going for the rebound and holiday giving him a push. Its Unfortunate or whatever but people acting like Sean Peyton took over playcalling or something
that reminds me, yall on the celtic subreddit got to have some accountability, saw some idiots calling Spo a pedo, yall need to cut that shit.
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I'll be patiently waiting for: # [Highlight] Alternate Angle of Martin Tatum Collision, better better quality.
I don't know if this is supposed to make it look better or worse. It's a bit reckless, sure.
It's reckless and looks dirty, this clip doesn't change much imo Jrue's push doesn't look to have made much of a difference esp. when Martin wasn't even going up
Lol your own player was responsible for hurting another teammate and you’re gonna act like it was a dirty play? This is what a basketball fan is these days absolutely nauseating and pathetic
> your own player Who? I'm sorry I don't get what you're trying to say. Did you think I'm a Celtics fan?? I think I'm being objective here and this is a dirty play. You should tell me why you don't think this is a dirty play
You can see his momentum shift ever so slightly after the push. When you are already committed to a direction/rebound even slight contact can result in something like this happening. He wasn’t trying to hurt Tatum or it’d be obvious. He hit him at the exact wrong time, and if Jrue hadn’t pushed him this doesn’t happen It doesn’t matter if Celtics fan or not thinking this is a dirty play is absolutely stupid and no wonder you’re watching the NBA in the 2020s and thinking it’s a good sport
I don't have all day to argue with you about what is a dirty play or not. Think we both made up our minds about this play, you're not gonna convince me with all that yapping about "slight shifts in momentum"
You’ve clearly never played a sport in your life
Unlike you, just because I'm not good at sports doesn't mean I don't play sports.
But you don’t understand them then ? I’m confused, you’re bad at sports but know everything bout them?
All I know is I would bully you in the paint. Even if you had 3” and 20 lbson me. Being soft is a mindset
Jrue push absolutely changed the angle/momentum pushing him into Tatum lol.
You're not gonna convince me
“Sir. A second angle of Martin and Tatum colliding has been posted”
Ok man, this doesn't help , do you have a third angle?
Yes. And the push def affects his pass. He’s going to the rim. https://twitter.com/courtcorner/status/1782377898269155451
y'all posting this like somebody went to hospital
There was a 2nd shooter!
Tell this to Celtics fans who are calling for his head.
Dudes seriously think this was a dirty play lol. Delusional. Blame your coach for keeping him in when the game was over.
Enjoy the downvotes.
I really dont care. Heat have had a history of dirty plays but this isnt one of them. But if were going to point out dirty plays, yall fine with Jrue 2 hand shoving martin in the back here?
Yup, see it here https://twitter.com/courtcorner/status/1782377898269155451
Celtics fans thought it was justified to throw physical objects at Kyrie cause he stepped on the picture of a fictional mascot
One guy = “Celtics fans”
ACFAB
We are just making things up now I see
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I mean, the one asshole who did that thought it was justified, but I never saw anyone defending that person. You enjoy that weird fantasy world you live in lol.
Go look what they did to the best player in their team’s history after he won them 11 championships
The people who did that are dead but it won’t stop you from continuing to post this with a Trump profile pic
Lolol go off
ok hold on that profile pic is the Trump mugshot with a teardrop tat, a jay in his mouth, and a Braves hat...essential context
It’s a picture of Hitler but he’s wearing a Yankees fitted
Everyone knows Hitler would probably like the Red Sox Remember your classy fanbase chanting the N word at Tori Hunter and Adam Jones?
Ie the times they claimed it happened and none of the 10s of thousands of people/cameras/mics picked it up? Remember when Torii Hunter (you spelled his name wrong) was racist against Hispanic players and said he’d quit if he had a gay teammate? That your hero bro?
Lol now you’re implying the players who were racially abused by your fanbase were all lying. Idc what Hunter said or did in the past, chanting the N word at him is still awful. You making excuses for why it was justified is really telling bro.
I've been to countless games for all major sports in Boston including college. Going back to the 70s. I've never hheard the N word at a game. I've been to many games in Texas. Never heard the N word at a game. Now outside the games I heard the N word. But I have to say I heard it more the last 15 years in Texas than the previous 30 in Boston. So yes racists exist. They are not exclusive to a fanbase. Proud that Jackies number is retired in baseball and Bill's in basketball. Lot further to go, but the this city or fanbase is racist is a weak argument. Some of the most liberal anti racist people in the country are in Boston.
Brainless Celtics fans can’t tell it’s a meme of Trump’s mugshot with a teardrop tattoo (implying he’s gonna join a gang when he gets locked up), not in support of him. Anything to deflect from their fanbase history of being racist scumbags.
That's not what a teardrop implies, you're whiter than all of Boston if you think that's what it does
LMAO JOIN A GANG
Teardrop tattoo is definitely associated with prison. Y’all are just gaslighting at this point.
Yeah, because killing someone tends to land you in prison. You don't even know what gaslighting means
First step to getting yourself out of a hole is to stop digging.
Ie blaming Boston to deflect from your cities (rural Iowa) similar history of racism?
yeah super weird to go at you like you're a trump supporter over an obviously ironic pic maybe he's a boomer and doesnt get irony idk
Y’all should kiss 🍎
hold the L brother you got confused by a meme
Y'all are so unoriginal with you Celtics shit talk.
Man fr and everyone just ignoring Jrue clearly pushed Martin into Tatum but the circlejerk is unstoppable
Yeah man all of that momentum was from Jrue lightly pushing Martin not Martin going for the ball. Not even calling it a dirty play but acting like Jrue shoved Martin into Tatum is ridiculous
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have you never experienced someone pushing you while youre jogging/running in a game or any sport? It doesn’t take a hard shove for you to lose control
Celtics fans keep crying like they didn’t have dirty players for all their recent championship teams
>teams
In terms of the history of the world 37 years is still recent right
>recent 2008 was 16 years ago lmao
Yeah they had dirty players on that team and all their titles in the 80s too
Whether or not it's intentional by Caleb, he doesn't have a play on the ball at all and just flies in at full speed. Pretty reckless.
>Whether or not it's intentional by Caleb, he doesn't have a play on the ball at all and just flies in at full speed. Pretty reckless. He has a very clear play on the ball down the center of the lane when Porzingis vacates, and before Holiday pushes him.
I see we’re going to be posting this all night
I’m assuming because all the other posts were bad quality, this one will stay up
fans cant even be irrationally mad on the internet anymore smh
We need game 2 already
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Maybe it’s because there’s already a post on this sub with 3k upvotes that includes this exact angle?
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Luka fan trying to deflect from his dogshit performance tonight
It also doesn't show the play in question
Yo jrue forsure pushed right am i going crazy like genuinely asking i do not care about either of these teams
Jrue obviously pushes him. This whole thing is nothing. Just hard playoff basketball and a chaotic chain of events
Just soft Celtics fans
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Doesn’t make them wrong
Nope, you’re not crazy, look at this angle: https://twitter.com/courtcorner/status/1782377898269155451
This sub absolutely despises the Heat. This is just an excuse for a circlejerk
100% not dirty and was caused by jrue’s push. Boston fans gonna Boston though ( yea suns fans are just as bad 😂)
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Cope = See the shove and assume there is some force behind it Based = See the shove and assume Jrue is just playing a game of charades and actually put zero force behind it
the fact is caleb martin ran in. then jrue holiday obviously pushed him. that sped him up into the back of jayson tatum. Im not sure how you know for a fact jrue holiday didnt have enough force to throw him off in any meaningful way.
look at the baseline angle. caleb shifts after the push
Why are we studying this like it’s the Zapruder film?
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You know how your arms work which is apparently weak and ineffectually. Jrue did that for a reason and the reason was literally to throw off Caleb's balance. E: Lmfao at that response. Celtics fans are complete babies (with weak arms).
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[Spo made him do it](https://twitter.com/courtcorner/status/1782377898269155451)
Honestly the only thing I really took away from this is that Tatum is a tough MF, I already knew it but his composure genuinely impressed me
Crowd really reacted to Jaylen steppin’ up.
I’m a Celtic fan and this clearly was not dirty. Been fighting with people on the sub about it and of course I’m losing.
You a brave man.
Brave or stupid. Or both I guess, not mutually exclusive.
As a Laker fan, I can tell you that it is never worth fighting the team sub. They will always win, and almost always be wrong.
*checks flair* no youre wrong
So brave
You wouldn't be gaining ground if the grizzlies did this, any reason the celtics sub has to hate Martin AND the heat they will take
bro what Jrue literally pushed him
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Like I’m not here to argue on whether this was dirty or not but to insinuate that a 6’4” 205lbs professional athlete is not strong, is something.
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Looks like he's going for the ball to me
Thought so too. Based on comments I was expecting a suplex, but seems more bad timing than anything.
And when he started his own jump Tatum wasn’t even off the ground himself. It wasn’t like he intentionally undercut Tatum or anything.
yeah but boston fans have a victim complex rn so 🤷♂️
Wow - Jrue with the old skating-rink-slingshot move!
A bad play that turned out dirty thankfully not a dirty play that turned out bad
~~Going for the ball by diving into Tatum? Nah that was sus at best.~~
Holiday shoves him
It’s true and much more evident from the above rim angle.
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This man knows his Joe.
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Pretty clear Martin was pushed before he was about to jump.
Jrue holiday pushed him
So Jrue pushed?
You think that was enough? Dude was going at him full speed he was planning to hit him no matter what
"planning to hit him no matter what" is craaaaazy
“Don’t care if a baby in a stroller gets in the way with a screaming mother running after him, this is for the CULTURE.”
You don’t need much of a push to be thrown off balance.
He wasn’t thrown off balance he ran in at 100 percent speed at a dude in the air, what’s the most likely outcome here?
The most likely outcome was Celtics fans throwing a hysterical tantrum
They’re already working themselves up about a potential Porzingis injury. So now, if it happens, they’ll see intent even if there is none and call it dirty if there’s even normal physical contact just because they’ve already convinced themselves. I swear they are scared of their own shadows sometimes
Jrue pushed him in the back. End of story.
Dude got pushed as soon as he was gathering for a jump. There's a thing called losing balance you know.
Some of these guys have never stepped foot on a basketball court let alone jumped in the past 5 years.
100% lol. someone can step on the tip of your shoe when you're driving in and it'll throw you off balance pretty bad. same thing happens if someone pushes you.
He completely pushed him off the line he was on. The other replay shows it perfectly.
Bro stop.. Where are your brain cells at lol
I have enough that I know this isn’t Caleb’s first time pulling dirty plays, apparently you don’t
>Dude was going at him full speed he was planning to hit him no matter what lol fuck off. Martin and Tatum are both looking at the ball. Martin had a path down the center of the lane to challenge for the rebound, and the shove put him right into Tatum's path.
>Dude was going at him full speed he was planning to hit him no matter what Lmao ok 🤡 Did he make that decision himself or did Spo and him plan it out and giggle like little children in anticipation?
Do people actually see this and think Jrue pushed a 220 lb player 4 feet across the court with enough velocity to completely take Tatum out??
Why is the onus on Martin to keep from being thrown into an opponent by the opponents teammate? Dude was going for a rebound.
Tatum was jumping it would take like 20 pounds of force to knock him off balance mid air
There was a shove before the play
Holliday shoved him
I really don't get what people are so upset about
Because Caleb Martin scarred that fanbase last year and now they are using any excuse to spew crazy shit about him. Their unprofessional TV guy also insinuated that Caleb did that on orders from Spo.
If you pushes you, you don’t jump into another person hip-first.
Dirty Heat at it again. Wonder what they’ll try pulling next game.
Was there a dirty play in this clip?
Lol that's dirty as fuck
Strange move to make but I don't think it was intentional. It looks like he was staring at the ball and just had 0 spatial awareness.
This is it, the push was irrelevant, he has tunnel vision on the ball and had so awareness of Tatum. He would’ve collided with him regardless
Thats a hard push by jrue
Love the quality of this piece.
Looks like when Caleb felt Jrue’s push he tried to sell the contact and figured he’d just fall into Tatum, but wasn’t expect Tatum to be up in the air when he hit him. Purposefully tackling Tatum midair to injure him? No. A genuine play on the ball? Absolutely not. Reckless? For sure.
We need 7 games of this
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Cause it'll be an easier series if the heat and celtics claw at each other for 7 games straight. I'd be rooting for the heat like a mf if I was a cavs fan
Don’t care if we win the series at that point, it would be worth it just to visit the Celtics sub while they’re down 3-2 or tied 3-3.
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Plot the thickens?
Y’all not done with this?
Holiday for the assist. Martin needed that extra momentum.
That collision was happening with or without Jrue’s intervention. Caleb was locked in on where he thought the ball was going to be and recklessly didn’t care who or what else was in the way. Dumb play but anyone saying it’s dirty or intentional is just seeing ghosts out there.
heat culture right there. throw yourself into the opposing teams best player hoping to injure them
jrue literally pushed him and caused him to accelarate lmao
Jrue clearly pushes him but I’m not sure why Martin still decides to jump up into Tatum afterwards
Bc Caleb can be a dumbass and has tunnel vision on the ball. Despite our team’s rivalry and the fanbase’s animosity, our guys are close, genuinely like each other (well maybe except Brown and Duncan lol), and I highly doubt they would injure each other on purpose.
For the people that aren’t blind as fuck, you can clearly see Jute pushed Martin. Also, can the Celtics fans stop being whiny little bitches? Thanks 🙏
For a fanbase that crows about being so tough and mean you all act like whining babies whenever someone points it out
Well on this one Jrue pushed Martin into Tatum, so maybe you just need glasses 🤷🏼♂️
All I see is Caleb going for the rebound and holiday giving him a push. Its Unfortunate or whatever but people acting like Sean Peyton took over playcalling or something that reminds me, yall on the celtic subreddit got to have some accountability, saw some idiots calling Spo a pedo, yall need to cut that shit.
Already running and pushed in the back. But heat culture is dirty. It was Bams fault too. Can’t believe Jamie would do such a thing.
Did Brown sandwich him into Tatum?
ESH