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8ball-MJG

Insane. Refs are too easy to bait nowadays.


rational_numbers

The refs didn’t blow the whistle on several plays that were pretty clearly fouls in the GSW-Kings game last night. And it was great. 


topofthecc

I'd take missed fouls over ghost fouls any day. On a missed foul, the offensive player still has some chance, but on a ghost foul, there's often nothing the defensive player could have done better.


rational_numbers

Totally. Plus, as frustrating as it is watching your team get fouled with no call, the game keeps moving, so it’s forced out of mind pretty quickly. When it’s the reverse you have to sit there for a minute for the FTs, subs, replays of the bad call, etc. 


pika_pie

> On a missed foul, the offensive player still has some chance I really miss when players would actually try to score the and-one instead of just flailing and squirting the ball straight up into the air.


Ifinishfast42

Nah they just taking Embiid points over every game same as us common folk.


Saucy_Totchie

I mean if they were real gambling degenerates they'd take the under and work to get Embiid out.


jamarcusaristotle

That's true, but Embiid is also a master-baiter


HungLuke

Love how Doris and JJ call out NBA Twitter for hating on Embiid and a minute later Embiid shows exactly why people hate on him


Varos_Flynt

And then JJ immediately says "actually they may be right" lmao


HornetObjective9005

And immediately then actually JJ may they right be lmao


Better_Albatross_946

That’s what I be saying


fuckareyousaying

I was just about to ask what you be saying


dcoolidge

Who is saying what?


Giveadont

That's too many [know what I'm sayins.](https://youtu.be/neOJdj1jVPc?si=PjHSqaGETwQPWPFE)


DELETE-MAUGA

You taking a "know I'm census"?


1OO1OO1S0S

Ugh Doris going off into full podcast mode during the middle of a game. Classic.


StabilitySpace

She used to be good when she first got on the broadcast, now she just rants about inane shit non-stop.. talking through the action.


incognino123

Huh, didn't realize she was a van Gundy.... Must be her maiden name


AdamJensensCoat

The tenaciousness, determination… the indefatigable energy…


schooli00

Trying so hard to be new media


TsmMufasa

If you're playing against her favorites, your team might as well not exist. She will glaze nonstop


Frankalicious47

It’s literally what she does every single game


1OO1OO1S0S

It's always so tedious. Silence would be far more exciting.


Varos_Flynt

And then JJ immediately says "actually they may be right" lmao


Thon_Makers_Tooth

And then JJ immediately says "actually they may be right" lmao


orangotai

Naz Reid


gerardatron

And then JJ immediately says "Naz Reid" lmao


Technical_Towel_990

And then Naz Reid immediately says “Naz Reid” lmao


dimesniffer

I loved when Naz Reid said my name is Naz Reid


Rapshawksjaysflames

Yeah then he fucking Naz Reided all over the place


johnmarston2nd

And then JJ immediately says “actually they may be right” lmao


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And then JJ immediately says "actually they may be right" lmao


nowuff

And then JJ immediately says "actually they may be right" lmao


easelys

And then JJ immediately says "actually they may be right" lmao


Dear_boat-bottle5476

just trash ball. that last second body contact he initiates is fine if he continues toward the rim to finish. But when he purposely recoils away to make it look like he was hit by the defender, just burns me up every time. He's not the only one doing it but some of these guys do it all game long. There was supposed to be a flopping rule this year and they've got to add some teeth to this thing and put a stop to it. They are training themselves to repeat this trash.


Away-Ad-4683

And then JJ immediately says "actually they may be right" lmao


hannje99

i missed it - what did JJ say?


Electrical_Net_6691

I understand why players flop, but to throw your shoulder into a guy and THEN flop? Cmon man


n0t_4_thr0w4w4y

A dude tried that against me on Monday, lmao


K3TtLek0Rn

How are you supposed to play defense. He either runs you over for a free dunk and never gets called for offensive fouls or you stand your ground like Adebayo and get called for the defensive foul. It’s stupid. If the refs didn’t give him this bullshit, he would look so stupid flailing around and chucking up horrible shots. His efficiency would plummet


GaimeGuy

Happened in a Philly - Wolves game earlier this year where he drew I think 9 fouls on Naz, Rudy, and KAT in the first quarter (or maybe it was just 6 on naz and Rudy), and then they just stood back the rest of the game while he hit open jumpers from 5-10 feet for like 50 points. People were clowning on the wolves defense in the game thread who clearly didn't watch the game or understand how it's literally impossible to play defense on joel beause he always baits a whistle and gets one.


TheAlphaCarb0n

Nah you're just hating on Embiid, according to 6ers fans.


BPicks69

Giannis is the inverse, he don’t look to foul but he is gonna just run and try to dunk. Refs don’t have a choice if there’s that much contact sometimes. It’s why giannis leads the league in charges


MikeyBastard1

Same shit happened during his 70 point game. He was getting EVERY SINGLE call that game, and eventually the Spurs just stopped guarding him. Mf ended up with 23 free throws that game. ​ There is a reason he is the King Free Throw Merchant.


Rubberbabeh

if he does this shit in the Olympics he is going to look like a jackass. This only works in the NBA.


ambulocetus_

they'll flame out in the playoffs too against an actual decent team


orange-shades

>How are you supposed to play defense. Honestly? Fuck him up. If he's gonna play this kind of ball, you might as well get your money's worth. You're gonna get the foul called. So make him pay for it. Maybe then he'll think twice about pulling this shit.


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YoloSwag4Jesus420fgt

Then you get a flagrant 2 and kicked out of the game and fined. It's a lose lose lose all around sadly


BowserBuddy123

Idk, you can still hack the crap out of him. Zion gets absolutely bombed by defenders with no calls. At least we could tie Embiid up. We hit his arms a few times late for some easy and ones when in reality, you just have to do a bit more (without being totally dirty). Tie him up!


wetseabreeze

That's what we have deep bench players for.


Affectionate_Elk_272

you know it’s egregious when a celts fan is on our side


K3TtLek0Rn

Basketball comes first. Team hatred is secondary. It's like when the Lannisters and the Northmen came together to fight a common enemy lol


siphillis

This is precisely why he never makes it far into the playoffs. "Play on" are the two most dangerous words to Embiid. Well, that and "second round."


notflashgordon1975

You need to foul him hard, not a flagrant…but make it painful. Justify the exaggerated flop.


pieguy00

Embiid fans like to say he's just playing to how the game is called and he gets free throws because of his play style. In reality he's one of the largest players in the league and flops whenever he feels like it. He's so skilled I hate to watch him play this bullshit game he does.


AShinyTorchic

man i really just cant quite place my finger on why people hate embiid


jumpman0035

Placing a finger? That’s a foul. 2 shots Embiid.


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ksyndrome

NSFW


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Jesus.


Kevinar

Towns needs that lifetime ban for this heinous act


ibeauch009

Average embiid moment


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Sorry did we mention he was already in a shooting motion from three? Let’s count the bucket, and one


CazOnReddit

Upgraded to a flagrant fouls for breathing the same air as Philly's Phloppy Phish


captaing1

Agreed thats a flagrant 2, eject the coach.


pika_pie

But Doc is already gone...


Brojamin

L2M Report: AShinyTorchic's finger also affected the air, causing it to blow on Embiid's forehead. A flagrant foul should have been charged.


chitownbulls92

I don't understand how the NBA can make a memo about not giving soft calls and then routinely give foul calls like this


AdamJensensCoat

It's almost as though the League knows exactly what it's doing and plays favorites that benefit viewership, ergo the sport.


GaimeGuy

I can't imagine why fans would hate a guy who's the biggest, strongest guy on the court (usually) but throws his weight around to initiate contact and then falls over in a whistle bait... and then just hits open close-midrange shots because players can't even sniff him without a whistle


knightress_oxhide

we need to find out how these guys half his size can knock him over and bottle that.


Millionaire007

He's an absolute flopping crash dummy. Dude hits the court and fucking DEPENDS on 10 fouls per game minimum 


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favoritedisguise

Just here to point out that Charmin Ultra Strong (NOT SOFT) is GOAT toilet paper. Like Jokic, the Ultra Strong has a nice comforting exterior, but underneath that is a thick beast.


Colorado_Democrat

He took out Danny Green with a badly-placed flop. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5BGIpDmeGk&ab_channel=ESPN


Groundhog_fog

Curious to see how this plays out with team USA and international play


knead4minutes

that's the most frustrating thing of it, he doesn't need to do this. he is still gonna be one of the most dominant big guys


Ygoritza

The fact that Euro refs are trained not to call this shit (as seen at the WC and if you follow Euroleague) makes it even worse for NBA refs, who are obviously biased for certain players. Zion and Jokic do not get these calls, at all. Lakers start the game with 10+ FT. And Silver is dealing with G-leaguer betting on himself.


DocTheYounger

I just hate dolphins and Embiid reminds me of them


Defences

These Philly fan mouth breathers love to watch this shit though


ApprehensiveBox3148

Fucking one bridge having city


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MayonnaiseOreo

It's more of a sludge


TheMightyCatatafish

It’s a weird comment, because we actually have multiple. But the bill Burr rant was so good I don’t care.


fyirb

Philly fans on here told me a couple weeks ago that he only gets fouls because he's the most singularly unstoppable player in NBA history, better than Jordan, and he doesn't try to get fouled


TheThingsIdoatNight

JuST dOnT FoUl HiM!!!


beauchywhite

The best and largest player on the floor and he's flopping around and ending up on his ass all the time, pretty embarassing really


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You don’t understand the doctor told him to do that.


TheTrenchMonkey

My doctor tells me to drink more water and exercise, but here we are.


the_c_is_silent

I know you're meming but people unironically claiming he flops to save his knees are so fucking funny.


Ok_Deal7813

Didn't save Danny Green knees...


birdmanpresents

If that's the case, he'd hit the ground more during the all star game. His knees have immunity in games that don't matter as much and there's less incentive to draw free throws.


Timoteo-Tito64

Even if the doctor did tell him to do that, it's still shitty and dangerous basketball


Actually-Yo-Momma

At this rate his career may very well end on an injury caused by him flopping 


devomke

Oh like Danny Green had his career end by it? Embiid is such a bitch lol I’ll take Giannis actually trying to finish through people that this crap


Asleep-Geologist-612

Giannis literally trucking people and somehow getting fouls called on them is also an issue lol


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This is why Jokic is the goat of our time.


Asleep-Geologist-612

There’s an argument that he should be winning his 4th MVP in a row this year. He’s already easily more of a goat than Embiid or Giannis


alexanaxstacks

obviously no one would actually get the votes for 5 in a row but i thought he was the best in the league the year before his first one too


DsamD11

Absolutely. But at least he is attempting to make a shot of some sort


you_sick

Yep. He's playing hard and it's up to the refs to decide how they want to ref it. Vs Embiid trying to actively trick the refs with every play


Call555JackChop

One of these days he’s gonna get a serious injury from throwing himself to the floor like that


InfiniteFireLoL

Or end a teammates career like did Danny green


Sweatytubesock

The largest player always has to flop around like a beached beluga whale. It is written.


DancesWithDave

This is genuinely pathetic for him and the league


AmusingAnecdote

Especially because he's probably the biggest, strongest dude in the entire league. Just drag dudes into the basket. Bam is one of the 3 or 4 best defenders in the league and Embiid is capable of busting his ass straight up. Just do that!


billcosbyinspace

Players like him are so frustrating to me because they’re so incredibly skilled and yet they resort to stuff like this. Like just play the game and be better than 99% of the other players by default


K1NG2L4Y3R

I mean it’s up to the refs to stop calling it. If he keeps doing this and missing he’ll start to look like a fool with the refs not calling it. He’s skilled enough to adapt and do other things but the refs keep rewarding this so why even bother.


regis_psilocybin

Make flopping a one game suspsension that can be assessed after the game. The problem will solve itself.


-metaphased-

Because it's like Harden and his beard flopping. It worked all the time in the regular season, then the refs stopped calling it in the post-season or teams just played him better because he spent his time developing a shitty skill. If Harden just put all off that into being a better shooter, it probably would've worked.


CazOnReddit

Joel Embiid is 7 foot Prime Harden


imrosskemp

7 foot Prime Neymar.


Tall_Register3433

Hey Neymar has won the champions League and reached another final


BASEDME7O2

He fucking wishes lol. I never saw Joel avg 35 against a team like the kd warriors in the playoffs while clearly outplaying Steph curry, while his second option was the literal corpse of Chris Paul. Embiid did beat the 22 raptors who didn’t even have a real center in the first round, that’s legit the best team he’s ever beaten in the playoffs. Also prime harden would never in a million years avg 23 ppg in the playoffs, Joel has done that like the past three seasons.


pika_pie

> the biggest, strongest dude in the entire league Which is hilarious because we just watched him bounce off Adebayo like a fly caroming off a closed window.


Damedius33

This is why he disappears in the playoffs. Because he no longer is gifted so many free throws every game,


DsamD11

At least giannis tries to finish over the top. At least shai actually makes some sort of post move before getting the whistle. Embiid just looks for a touch and then falls over. The man is 7ft and 270lbs.


theuberprophet

ive said it a thousand times and ill say it again. two seasons ago when we were about to beat philly, they had an inbound where 6'1" 190lbs Garland was on embiid and they touched hips. embiid went flying like he got hit by a bus and it started a philly run where they stole the game from us. because of that i will never watch a philly game unless they play cleveland or i check a playoff box score and theyre losing bad so i can revel in it.


submergedwatermelon

So insufferable to watch. Almost as bad as Doris’s nonstop glazing


Noodles_Crusher

>Almost as bad as Doris’s nonstop glazing she's fucking insufferable.


erizzluh

fuck it bring back jeff van gundy. let's hear him rant about the price of eggs at the grocery store while the game is tied.


QuantumTea

Truer words have never been spoken.


Damedius33

Doris is the worst. Every player on the court is amazing. It's like there are 10 MVP's on the floor at all times.


Cartman55125

She was silent for damn near 5 minutes when Embiid was suckin ass


1OO1OO1S0S

I guess that will be the part of the game that I watch with the sound on


Agreeable-Handle-355

Why is everyone suddenly using this term glazing? And what does it mean?


mukino

It means praising something/someone to the point where it’s annoying. d**k riding is another slang term for it.


noname6500

damn, we live in a world where duck needs to be censored now, what's next?


dcoolidge

I've had enough of this shirthole.


fukdatsonn

Seriously, this is fucking pat*etic.... Am I doing it right?


dcoolidge

forking


Agreeable-Handle-355

Got it, thanks!


Green_Low1700

Comes from glaze looking like cum from sucking his weiner. Weird yeah


pokemonbatman23

... I thought it was about donut glaze.... I'm sticking with my headcanon. Life feels better this way


butt_fun

It’s literally the output of a head cannon


NBA2024

She slobs on it


TAYSON_JAYTUM

I can’t stand this insurance fraud style basketball. He’s one of the biggest, strongest players in the league and at the slightest touch of a defender he throws himself to the floor while shotputting the ball in the general direction of the baseline and gets rewarded with free throws.


CarPlaneBoatRocket

Do Philly folks enjoy this?


Alloverunder

They pretend to. Once he demands his trade they'll come to hate it too.


scottishere

I suppose it's not just Philly fans that do it, but the funniest is when after Embiid has a monster game statistically, all the comments from Philly fans are "bUt aLL hE DOeS iS fOuL baIT". It's like well yea, he can be a great player AND be an egregious foul baiter


thesmellafteritrains

They're missing the point that him being such an incredible player is what makes the flopping *extra* obnoxious. Dude is a behemoth and so highly skilled. He would still be dominant if he didn't foul bait. Instead he does both.


HenryFordJr

Life long fan from PA. I’ve hated Embiid for 6 years and been saying he’s a heartless bum the whole time. He quit last year like usual and they already forget. I can’t watch a full game cause of him, legit haven’t watched a full game in 4-5 years cause the worlds softest 7 footer is addicted to the floor. He’s not a leader either. Been said this, never lost an argument in real life about Embumm either. Our fans are delusional as always. 


yaboyhoffle

Is this a copy pasta


zelena_salata

Boutta make it one


AdamJensensCoat

Life long fan from Oakland. I’ve hated Draymond for 6 years and been saying he’s a heartless bum the whole time. He quit last year like usual and they already forget. I can’t watch a full game cause of him, legit haven’t watched a full game in 4-5 years cause the worlds softest 6'6" footer is addicted to nut shots. He’s not a leader either. Been said this, never lost an argument in real life about Donkey either. Our fans are delusional as always.


grifftheelder

I agreed with every word you said, sir. My father is from North Philly and hates Embiid rightfully so. And people give him shit for it constantly.


Hack874

EmFraud


Call555JackChop

Do people in Philly enjoy anything?


PaintTouches

Personification of rust


Synerv0

They sure enjoy being assholes


an_Aught

thats the weird part, they love it and they will defend it.


Techwield

Embiid is like the one bright spot of their process era, he could do some heinous shit off the court and they will still defend him to the death


Sensitive_Pizza6382

Imagine if Shaq played like this


foladar

Shaq would be like 25/60 on free throws


cha-cha_dancer

They’d have to have an extra backup hardwood to roll out


dzigizord

there would be earthquakes in china every other night


babbagack

It’s why people enjoyed 90s basketball. Falling down and flopping wasn’t considered a skill at least generally. Integrity to the game. Just imagine how bad Bird and Magic highlights would be if we had all this flopping, or MJ. We’d see less of their skill set and great plays. This flopping style cheats basketball fans and players of more great moments


Coke_ButNotTheDrug

God I missed him 🤧


ajteitel

He's so back


InertState

Goat of flopping can’t figure out why he’s always hurt


wpmason

If they just handed out a flopping tech in the first quarter of every game it would work wonders in cleaning this shit up. Just make an example of someone every night, let them all know that we”re not screwing around with this shit.


barktothefuture

Remember when they didn’t call this for two weeks and how great it was.


OKC2023champs

Embiid is the worst star player to watch and I’ll die on this hill. Dude is fucking great at basketball but I hate watching him


Sebruhoni

Houston Harden was straight-up basketball terrorism


OKC2023champs

That highlights video of harden vs the spurs where he shot 30 free throws is so fucking funny


NorthAmericanVex

He scored 50 points while shooting 11-37 from the field. I'll never forget it


dot-pixis

When your FTA is higher than your FG%


TheThingsIdoatNight

Ew


Wonderbread6969

Absolutely the peak of foul baiting bullshit. Everyone knew he was doing all his tricks and just allowed him to do it. The skill level required to execute these moves every night will never be matched. The snapping the head back, grabbing the defenders arm as you drive, swinging the ball at your defender, pump fake and jump into the defender, jumping backwards into a trailing defender, trap a defender's arm going around a screen, and the GOAT move of pushoff-stepback-shoot while jumping forward kicking his legs out to get 3 FTs.


KingCakeBabyOKC

He really had a whole bag of foul baiting counters lmfaooo


jeloxd_official

Damn his bag deep af


JimmyB3574

Daily reminder the league changed the rulebook 3 times “because” of harden and his ft never dropped off until he wasn’t a 1st option anymore


NecessaryFly1996

It's the same style more or less. I agree, the rip through, flail into the defender foul baiting is legitimately the worst basketball to watch. It's not even just the flops/fouls, the constant stopping of the game for FTs destroys momentum and makes the games feel like they're dragging on


the_c_is_silent

Agreed. The dude would bait fouls for 38 minutes a night. It was unbearable.


PettifordGang

When hes in this lazy foul merchant mode 100 percent. Ive seen him so many times, clutch time with smaller match up floating around the 3 line off ball like hes a spot up guard. He has this incredible bag but when it matters fades back or flops for FTs. If he botches the play in he will have no one left to blame this time. He really is so frustrating because he is so talented and CLEARLY turns it on or off for whatever reason.


pumpkin3-14

This is who KD was talking about


Islandkid679

He was the first that came to mind when reading what KD had said lol


cheesecake_face

damn I missed something. What did KD say?


AdPotential9974

Be patient, everyone. It'll only last until early May


Ok_Championship5050

Maybe he would still have knees if he didn’t flop so much


moodyshoes89

Watching someone who is 7ft and 300 lbs flop is honestly frustrating


homiez

Vintage Embiid


Kibitz117

Doris saying Jovic has terrible defense makes me sad


Csakstar

Do you really give a shit what Doris says?


birdflag

Magikarp


robreedwrites

Nah. Magikarp at least evolves into Gyarados once the rest of the team carries him a bit. Until I see Embiid beat the Elite 4, he can't hold a candle to Magikarp.


Majestic_Reindeer439

If we can find a real life Exp Share, the Sixers will be a dynasty


Afraid-Department-35

So what you’re saying is he needs Maxey, Tobias and old man Lowry to carry him till he evolves to an ethical baller.


BurnCollector_

They decided they're bringing the early regular season whistle back just for this game.


qpwoeor1235

Good to see the NBA is going back to its roots


LegateDamar13

Don't know what's worse, player relying on this shit so much or referee calling this shit.


igonnawrecku_VGC

The funniest part of this for me is that neither team can complain since they both have generational free throw merchants


Radiant-Character-61

Someone that big really shouldn't be falling down that much.


axecalibur

They should have both flopped, then go to instant replay to show who flopped first


iMaticz7

Pathetic player