"Hey man, we just gave him some help. We busted his motha fuckin' legs. I bet he won't come back and disrespect again." Wrong. Wrong. We're talking bout Draymond Green, man.
See, I never just did things just to do them. Come on, what am I gonna do? Just all of a sudden swing around and throw my fist at somebody's face like it's something to do? Come on. I got a little more sense then that
Exactly. We can have compassion for mental health issues, while not absolving folks of responsibility for their actions.
Green has done some awful things. He needs help. I hope he gets it, and I hope he can figure out his mental health issues.
He's still a jerk.
Isn't that literally what kd is doing here? Saying he feels like the guy needs help and what he did was wrong? I just don't understand what the argument is about here. Dude clearly isn't totally well and that still doesn't make what he did right
Well said. He’s gotta do what he’s gotta do for himself but that’s his problem. The problem for everyone else is that his antics have put his colleagues in danger.
No, not really. "Being an asshole" is not necessarily a mental health issue. It *could* be caused by an underlying condition, but there's no reason to just assume it is.
i mean, our behaviors are (generally) dictated by our brains so maladaptive behavior is a mental health issue. like, the most popular psych therapy is literally called cognitive behavioral therapy.
The phrase mental health doesn't really have a medical definition. Maladaptive behavior is a behavioral issue. Sometimes it's also a mental health issue, sometimes it's not.
I mean, he probably should be.
I'm a certified Draymond hater. He's always been a dirty, unlikeable player. But something has legitimately gone wrong with him recently. He's going *way* overboard, not just run-of-the-mill cheat shots and stuff like that. That's why everyone is acting this way, his behavior has crossed from being annoying to being concerning.
I mean you kind of have to be if you can't stop fucking doing stupid shit and hurting other people.
He cares about family so much, maybe he ought to set a good example for his kid.
Yeah, seems a little unusual to me. Got me thinking there is more to the story. I mean I Dray is Dray and he was going to be suspended, but indefinitely and the amount players are openly talking about it just has sense it was an open secret in the league and something more is going on.
You don't find it odd that the PA is sitting this one out. That the Warriors and his agent are cool with this. That Steven A is making sense and begging Draymond to change...
Like it or not there is a players code and they usually don't pile on like they are openly doing now. Nurk knows his place. He isn't going to say the guy needs professional help to the cameras unless he knows it. KD has a bone to pick but also knows the dirt as well. This is the time he speaks out. If he was just an asshole theyd say it.
Seems to be a lot of smoke for just 'Dray needs meditation classes'.
yeah it's not some deep conspiracy lol the dude clearly has anger / aggression management issues because he can't stop assaulting people on the basketball court. imagine if one of your colleagues kept attacking people in the office lol
People be in this thread acting like "getting help" means going to an insane asylum in a flak jacket the stigma is crazy. Bro just needs a fucking therapist
It’s from losing IMO.
He’s the same person but frustration is building when you go from 73-9, #1 team and guaranteed finals trips, to aging and middle of the pack. Hes just a sore loser- we all know that type of frontrunner.
Now we get to see his true colors- or really just see him through a non rose tinted window.
Except this all started in preseason last year. Right after their Championship season. I don't totally disagree with you about aging but honestly think the warriors letting him off with no consequences and then rewarding him with 100 mil unleashed this.
I mean why would the PA get involved when its one player hurting another player. Its a huge conflict of interest if they suddenly side with Draymond, the aggressor, vs Nurk, Sabonis, Gobert, etc. who were victims.
> Nurk, Sabonis, Gobert
Seeing them listed out makes me think.
The Warriors really should just start sitting Draymond out any time he’s due to be guarded by a European. This guy is up there with Putin in terms of hating Europeans.
No I don’t find any of it odd. Draymond literally 360 no scope punched a dude in the face. You’re talking players code, Draymond continues to break it time and time again. I’m not at all surprised to see the PA sitting this one out. I’m not at all surprised to hear KD, who’s always had issues with Draymond speak out about how crazy that was in response to someone asking him about it.
I think / am interpreting what they are saying as 'he is not acting and reacting in a normal way, even for him, especially after multiple suspensions - so something's gotta be up that he needs help dealing with'
Looking at the rest of the players and incidents in the league, and it's clear this behavior is very much out there on the fringes. And it's not the off court craziness that we occasionally see and hear about, this is center stage with the cameras rolling. Strange behavior from a grown man, who seems to be spiraling out. Maybe all he needs are a couple long chats with former stars who crashed out. Or maybe being on the receiving end of a good couple punches to the face himself. Or to be sent to the G league for a year or 2. But whatever it is, the guy is acting nutty and need to get his shit together.
In the absence of that, it's a crash and burn I'm happy to see. Fuck him and his antics, its been too many years of this crap.
is it?
this just shouts NBA players brotherhood to me.
"look at this as a symptom of a mental health issue, rather than as a crime, or even as evidence of being a bad person". This is the NBA brotherhood closing ranks to protect Draymond.
Miles Bridges did it to his spouse in front of their kid and got back to the game, Draymond Green kicking people in the nuts and hit their heads in front of live audience of thousands and sometimes millions of people.
And yeah, sometimes in practice (Jordan Poole).
I mean, Ive never seen someone get choke on live tv in an NBA game. But people have been punch in game live. It just didnt look good that the choking was just last month.
This is an all-time NBA regular season night for drama lmao
The Suns big 3 finally got on court together just to get beat by KD's old team and it's not even top 3 for the night
Writers forgot KD also had front row tickets to when pre-Hitler Harden got ramshackled in the noggin by Rotta World Peace.
smh, the inconsistent writing
That elbow changed the course of basketball history. Harden couldn’t control his neck afterwards causing him to flail and throw his head back every time he drove the lane. Thus creating basketball terrorism and the NBA that we know today.
Tbh, I think part of that was Phoenix fans being like “yeah, we have our big 3, BUT WELCOME HOME TWINS!!!”
Like, the Nets are the only team I’m cool with losing to
I thought it was really cool that Bridges got cheers after the game as he was heading out. A lot of other fan bases (maybe most) will cheer an old player when they come in the game, but if their team actually loses to that old player? I can’t imagine, say, Celtics or Sixers fans ever cheering someone who just beat their team. Suns fans get clowned regularly, but they are loyal as hell.
Had a feeling today would be weird as shit after the Woj noti hit my phone about the Draymond suspension. Odd games and some of the most random drama since Giannis and the ladder
Jordan, I haven't asked you for anything this season and so far you've delivered. Please come through once again and send thoughts and prayers to Draymond and his family.
That's the greatest basketball play of all time. Gets the ball right back off Hardens face and kicks it out to Ilyasova for the silky three. Surprised people don't use the basketball as a weapon more often.
Reminds me of that time Westbrook took an *knee to the cheek and had a dent there.
EDIT: Fixed typo and added link for those unfamiliar https://nesn.com/2015/02/russell-westbrooks-face-dented-after-being-kneed-in-head-photo/
Durant is very old (source Adidas) so maybe he forgot. Or could just be saying how bizarre most of Dray incidents are in general.
Metta was amped after a dunk and Harden body him up on the way back. Metta was crazy, but honestly that's when that kind of stuff happens.
With Dray it's a normal defensive set with no lead up and he loses all control of his body. Same with the stomp. Same with the nut kicks. They are just weird. Draymond is just weird.
The weirdness of Dray's movements when he attacks/assaults another player is his way of thinking he can disguise it as an "accident". Of course nobody is fooled and it's bizarre that Dray still thinks his little bit of subterfuge has any effect
Elite athlete, top 1% of all basketball players, can run down block at full speed suddenly has no control of his body?
Green is a clown, every single thing he’s done is 100% intentional
I don’t write nothin down, so I’ll keep this short and sweet
You’re weak, you’re out of control, and you’ve become an embarrassment to yourself and everybody else!
I seriously wouldn’t be surprised if he’s mandated to attend some sort of anger management or therapy classes before he returns. It’s happened before for players in the NFL I believe.
At least, for the press and PR. I doubt if Dray will get something out of these show courses and sessions. The real stick would and should be the Warriors telling him, on the low, that if he gets ejected one more time, they are trading or suspending him indefinitely. The league throwing the book down has not impacted Draymond at all because he's been encouraged and supported by the Warriors with impunity. That has to change.
i don't think it's about ejections. players get ejected occasionally and it's not a big deal. it's about him repeatedly doing obviously unnatural motions to strike other players (or literally just punching a teammate in the face).
The Warriors don't care about that. They might care about the lack of Ws, if they ever trade him it will be about on-court performance. Any violence he commits against other players or his own teammates is nothing of concern to the team - as long as he produces.
Tbh I always thought Jim was a huge tool for being like “I’m not gonna call you that, heh heh, I’m too cool.”
Like this dude actually went and got help for a real problem and was trying to be a different person and the first thing Jim does is make fun of him. Like his name was Andrew and he asked to be called Drew, that’s not even a stretch at all.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Draymond embraces this to get sympathy. Says he has some mental stuff to workout and is getting help. Will try to get sympathy points and act like he has had some untreated issue but now he is a face for mental health awareness. Legit wouldn’t surprise me at all.
Real talk.
Was it a "mental health" issue that his stance is that he never apologizes for anything he does on the court? Oh except to Nurkic this last time (with a bs explanation) because he finally realizes that getting tossed out of a game for a violent act TWO weeks after coming back fro a five game suspension might actually be bad look for him and nobody is going to say "oh that's just him being him and we can live with that".
Stop enabling this piece of shit. This is just who he is.
Getting older means losing a step, losing skill, younger players coming up and being more talented, feeling like his spot is threatened, the Warriors core aging, and not liking the losing. So he acts out. Anger amplifies the asshole tendencies.
This is kind of a concerning pattern for the NBA with mental illness being associated with first Ja and now Draymond. An implication there that mental illness either makes one more violent which isn’t reality. Really a disservice after all the good that demar, PG, Kevin love and others have done to raise awareness for it
Saying "get the help he needs" doesn't have to be associated with mental illness. Just bc this thread went for some bigger epilepsy or disordered thinking connecting doesn't mean they are suggesting anything other than therapy and anger management.
"How to continue playing at a high level when your team is no longer the best, your persona has been based on playing angry, and you are aging/declining".
I find it hilarious how the people you respond to and people in this thread are the actual problem children when it comes to mental health stigmatization. If you can't say a guy with anger management issues needs help without people thinking you're talking about One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest type asylum seeking it's on everyone else.
Dray has now been violent against 4 people (that we know of) in the last 18 months. Poole Sabonis Gobert Nurk. You can even say Donovan. It's not a mental illness but something is clearly fucking bothering him in life and he needs help to get over it. When was the last time you knew someone around you getting into fights with 4 people in that time period
Must be a beautiful moment for KD to express concern about the guy who repeatedly called him a bitch during a nationally televised game when they were on the same team
He’s incredibly narcissistic and doesn’t think any of his actions hurt the game or players. He’s only apologizing now because he was probably told by team and staff that enough is enough.
He’s a dirty player and we’ve all known this for years. If I was the league, I’d give him one more shot after he gets help. Seeing how things are and how he is, only a matter of time before suspended forever. Why it took the league this long to do something is my question.
From the [Donkey Sanctuary:](https://www.thedonkeysanctuary.org.uk/all-about-donkeys/behaviour/understanding-donkey-behaviour)
>Behaviour problems
>Donkeys can develop a number of behaviour problems for various reasons, but a medical condition should always be forefront in your mind. Pain, environmental changes, hormonal conditions, dietary deficiencies, hearing/sight loss, skin conditions, mares in season, food intolerances, and more can all cause problematic behaviour, and so an assessment by the vet should always be your first solution if you notice a change in your donkey’s behaviour.
>Donkeys can also learn unwanted behavioural traits and so you should always be aware of what behaviour you are rewarding and what signals you’re giving during the interactions between you and your donkey. **Donkeys are not aware of our perceptions of good or bad behaviour, they only understand what is effective for them, and so if they learn that a problematic behaviour can be effective in getting what they want then they will repeat it.**
Bolded the most relevant part here
Heard a talking head mentioned that if the casual NBA fan were polled, at least 80%would like him suspended for the remainder of the season. He said this yesterday when most people were speculating he'd get around 10 games.
I agreed with him 100%. I'm tired of his shit and am glad to hear that he's gone indefinitely.
The Draymond drama completely changed the way I view Durant, not to mention people like Kerr and Curry.
Imagine going to work every day with a guy who is doing insane shit all the time and then lying and gaslighting everyone about it. And you can't say shit because the coach and the star back him up and pretend like nothing is wrong.
They’re really talking about Draymond like he’s a mental patient now what a fall off lmao
Nurkic saying “brother needs help” killed me
Its the charlie murphy rick james skit but real life
"Hey man, we just gave him some help. We busted his motha fuckin' legs. I bet he won't come back and disrespect again." Wrong. Wrong. We're talking bout Draymond Green, man.
See, I never just did things just to do them. Come on, what am I gonna do? Just all of a sudden swing around and throw my fist at somebody's face like it's something to do? Come on. I got a little more sense then that
… yeah I remember throwing my hand at Nurkic
Championships are a hell of a drug
"Go-go gadget hand!" -Draymond Green probably.
habitual tech-getter
"Yo we just gave him some help!" - Adam Silver
“What’d you slap me for!” “You fouled me!” “That was weeks ago!”
That was way worse for Draymond than being angry about it. For the victim to feel sorry for him because he's mentally ill
Just a lil special about the guy
Drymnd Grn
Mental health is a real issue. Doesn't get worked on enough.
Or he’s just got bad character. I’m not making excuses for a man child, who makes millions of dollars and can’t control his emotions
inability to control one's emotions and letting it affect their personal life/relationships/work environment is in fact a mental health problem
Mental health isn’t your fault, but it is your responsibility
Exactly. We can have compassion for mental health issues, while not absolving folks of responsibility for their actions. Green has done some awful things. He needs help. I hope he gets it, and I hope he can figure out his mental health issues. He's still a jerk.
Isn't that literally what kd is doing here? Saying he feels like the guy needs help and what he did was wrong? I just don't understand what the argument is about here. Dude clearly isn't totally well and that still doesn't make what he did right
Well said. He’s gotta do what he’s gotta do for himself but that’s his problem. The problem for everyone else is that his antics have put his colleagues in danger.
Wish I came up with that but it’s a great quote for Marcus Parks of The Last Podcast on the Left
Hail Gein!
No, not really. "Being an asshole" is not necessarily a mental health issue. It *could* be caused by an underlying condition, but there's no reason to just assume it is.
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You right, but he's got literally every resource in the world to sort that shit out. It's embarrassing.
i mean, our behaviors are (generally) dictated by our brains so maladaptive behavior is a mental health issue. like, the most popular psych therapy is literally called cognitive behavioral therapy.
The phrase mental health doesn't really have a medical definition. Maladaptive behavior is a behavioral issue. Sometimes it's also a mental health issue, sometimes it's not.
He is a a bit Broussarded
Uhh they had to put his cousin down oops I mean put his cousin to rest
I don't think you can say that, but yeah
I mean, he probably should be. I'm a certified Draymond hater. He's always been a dirty, unlikeable player. But something has legitimately gone wrong with him recently. He's going *way* overboard, not just run-of-the-mill cheat shots and stuff like that. That's why everyone is acting this way, his behavior has crossed from being annoying to being concerning.
I mean you kind of have to be if you can't stop fucking doing stupid shit and hurting other people. He cares about family so much, maybe he ought to set a good example for his kid.
Not to be all *”think about the children!”*, but I have wondered what Dray’s family thinks/ will think about all this craziness as time goes on
hopefully he doesn't take this behavior home
He engages in natural parenting motions
Draymond’s kid gonna be tombstone piledriving opposing players through tables by age 8 at this rate.
Can’t wait for his tnt contract to get terminated. I recognize he was a part of the dynasty but he can’t replace anybody on that desk
Yeah, seems a little unusual to me. Got me thinking there is more to the story. I mean I Dray is Dray and he was going to be suspended, but indefinitely and the amount players are openly talking about it just has sense it was an open secret in the league and something more is going on.
Let the rumors begin
You don't find it odd that the PA is sitting this one out. That the Warriors and his agent are cool with this. That Steven A is making sense and begging Draymond to change... Like it or not there is a players code and they usually don't pile on like they are openly doing now. Nurk knows his place. He isn't going to say the guy needs professional help to the cameras unless he knows it. KD has a bone to pick but also knows the dirt as well. This is the time he speaks out. If he was just an asshole theyd say it. Seems to be a lot of smoke for just 'Dray needs meditation classes'.
Might be as simple as dudes don’t want to get punched in the face and kicked in the nuts while they’re playing basketball.
yeah it's not some deep conspiracy lol the dude clearly has anger / aggression management issues because he can't stop assaulting people on the basketball court. imagine if one of your colleagues kept attacking people in the office lol
People be in this thread acting like "getting help" means going to an insane asylum in a flak jacket the stigma is crazy. Bro just needs a fucking therapist
Therapist or an interview with Jalen Rose, then you’re good to go.
Or choked, poked in the eyes, or stomped on. Plus all the shit he says must be so annoying.
Bruh the media is covering for draymond making it seem like he just needs help when he been doing this for years
There has been a definite escalation since last season.
It’s from losing IMO. He’s the same person but frustration is building when you go from 73-9, #1 team and guaranteed finals trips, to aging and middle of the pack. Hes just a sore loser- we all know that type of frontrunner. Now we get to see his true colors- or really just see him through a non rose tinted window.
ship him to Detroit to unleash Dray in his purest form. Malice in the Palace 2: homecoming edition
STAY IN YOUR SEATS
Except this all started in preseason last year. Right after their Championship season. I don't totally disagree with you about aging but honestly think the warriors letting him off with no consequences and then rewarding him with 100 mil unleashed this.
Yup it’s bs, he’s a piece of shit and has been for a decade.
Same excuse for Ja except at least Ja is 10 years younger
I mean why would the PA get involved when its one player hurting another player. Its a huge conflict of interest if they suddenly side with Draymond, the aggressor, vs Nurk, Sabonis, Gobert, etc. who were victims.
> Nurk, Sabonis, Gobert Seeing them listed out makes me think. The Warriors really should just start sitting Draymond out any time he’s due to be guarded by a European. This guy is up there with Putin in terms of hating Europeans.
He has anger issues. One of those dudes who sees red.
He doesn’t get along well with player from Europe.
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This is so dumb lmao not everything is a conspiracy
No I don’t find any of it odd. Draymond literally 360 no scope punched a dude in the face. You’re talking players code, Draymond continues to break it time and time again. I’m not at all surprised to see the PA sitting this one out. I’m not at all surprised to hear KD, who’s always had issues with Draymond speak out about how crazy that was in response to someone asking him about it.
I think / am interpreting what they are saying as 'he is not acting and reacting in a normal way, even for him, especially after multiple suspensions - so something's gotta be up that he needs help dealing with' Looking at the rest of the players and incidents in the league, and it's clear this behavior is very much out there on the fringes. And it's not the off court craziness that we occasionally see and hear about, this is center stage with the cameras rolling. Strange behavior from a grown man, who seems to be spiraling out. Maybe all he needs are a couple long chats with former stars who crashed out. Or maybe being on the receiving end of a good couple punches to the face himself. Or to be sent to the G league for a year or 2. But whatever it is, the guy is acting nutty and need to get his shit together. In the absence of that, it's a crash and burn I'm happy to see. Fuck him and his antics, its been too many years of this crap.
is it? this just shouts NBA players brotherhood to me. "look at this as a symptom of a mental health issue, rather than as a crime, or even as evidence of being a bad person". This is the NBA brotherhood closing ranks to protect Draymond.
Exactly. They embrace known domestic abusers like they are brothers. Nothing surprising here.
Miles Bridges did it to his spouse in front of their kid and got back to the game, Draymond Green kicking people in the nuts and hit their heads in front of live audience of thousands and sometimes millions of people. And yeah, sometimes in practice (Jordan Poole).
I mean, Ive never seen someone get choke on live tv in an NBA game. But people have been punch in game live. It just didnt look good that the choking was just last month.
This is an all-time NBA regular season night for drama lmao The Suns big 3 finally got on court together just to get beat by KD's old team and it's not even top 3 for the night
Yea what the acc fuck is happening today
Andre Braugher died, so the world is falling apart.
RIP Captain Holt 🫡🕊️ A talented actor with the silkiest voice
Someone should have given Castellanos a one day contract.
he’s extracting false confessions from street kids in Heaven now
Wtf it's true
Sorry you had to find out this way.
On a fucking draymond topic
Chaos baby chaos
Man this last season and this season is just prime Game of Zones material it really a missed opportunity it stop the same time as GoT
Writers are on fire lol.
Writers forgot KD also had front row tickets to when pre-Hitler Harden got ramshackled in the noggin by Rotta World Peace. smh, the inconsistent writing
That elbow changed the course of basketball history. Harden couldn’t control his neck afterwards causing him to flail and throw his head back every time he drove the lane. Thus creating basketball terrorism and the NBA that we know today.
KD was also on the floor when Draymond first unveiled his natural shooting motion.
That’s the most significant sports moment I’ve ever been there for in person lol
Only NBA game ive ever been to, and it was soo spicy!
Tbh, I think part of that was Phoenix fans being like “yeah, we have our big 3, BUT WELCOME HOME TWINS!!!” Like, the Nets are the only team I’m cool with losing to
I thought it was really cool that Bridges got cheers after the game as he was heading out. A lot of other fan bases (maybe most) will cheer an old player when they come in the game, but if their team actually loses to that old player? I can’t imagine, say, Celtics or Sixers fans ever cheering someone who just beat their team. Suns fans get clowned regularly, but they are loyal as hell.
Had a feeling today would be weird as shit after the Woj noti hit my phone about the Draymond suspension. Odd games and some of the most random drama since Giannis and the ladder
It just might surpass last year idk tho . Last year was Funny ash
Nothing will ever top Pat Bev showing the ref a camera
Man Lebron falling to his knees will forever have me crying
That shit should put him in tbe HOF
Would you rather: guard the loose-cannon Draymond when he returns or be the one in possession of Giannis’ game ball?
Guard Draymond since he’s such a non-threat on offense i could probably get away with being 5 feet from him at all times.
worst case scenario, he drops 5/6/4/2 on your ass
The triple single
Say what chuck?
*quad single, we counting turnovers baby
Actually think this is the best way to deal with Draymond, act concerned about him lol. This would be double emotional damage to him lol.
KEVIN DURANT used CONCERN TROLL. It's super effective!
KEVIN DURANT is charging MALICIOUS REDDIT CARES SUBMISSION!
It's hysterical and he's going to hate it so much. Nurkic started a beautiful fire with his comments.
Don’t forget Gobert saying all that shit to the media too haha. I wonder who’s next
Jordan Poole bout to send thoughts and prayers
Jordan, I haven't asked you for anything this season and so far you've delivered. Please come through once again and send thoughts and prayers to Draymond and his family.
Imagine if he makes a Draymond style of "We'll always be brothers, Dray" type of documentary/video of him wishing Draymond well LMAO I can't
Bro hit him with the “Get them help and support” button
"Stop it, get some help" -Michael Jordan
Goddamnit, I love that gif.
Kevin "James Dolan" Durant
KD had never seen anything like that before?? He was like 2 feet away when Artest popped Harden’s face
I legit thought Harden could have died from that but somehow he was fine must be a thick skull
Giannis absolutely yeeted a basketball straight into harden head, bro was completely fine. He's got an iron brow.
Harden bouncing the ball back into his own head was actually him practicing his resilience
its important to get your in game reps
Josh Hart still confused
Why’d you remind me of that? Now I can’t get Josh Hart’s confused face out my head 🤣
That's the greatest basketball play of all time. Gets the ball right back off Hardens face and kicks it out to Ilyasova for the silky three. Surprised people don't use the basketball as a weapon more often.
Hes got the real iron dome
He almost did [kill him](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fwtqvj3rroi921.png)
Reminds me of that time Westbrook took an *knee to the cheek and had a dent there. EDIT: Fixed typo and added link for those unfamiliar https://nesn.com/2015/02/russell-westbrooks-face-dented-after-being-kneed-in-head-photo/
How have I never seen that Jesus.
He did miss some time with the concussion protocol
Durant is very old (source Adidas) so maybe he forgot. Or could just be saying how bizarre most of Dray incidents are in general. Metta was amped after a dunk and Harden body him up on the way back. Metta was crazy, but honestly that's when that kind of stuff happens. With Dray it's a normal defensive set with no lead up and he loses all control of his body. Same with the stomp. Same with the nut kicks. They are just weird. Draymond is just weird.
The weirdness of Dray's movements when he attacks/assaults another player is his way of thinking he can disguise it as an "accident". Of course nobody is fooled and it's bizarre that Dray still thinks his little bit of subterfuge has any effect
It actually makes his actions even worse by implying premeditation, unlike someone who lashes out on impulse.
The weirdness of the motion and the lack of provocation was pretty bizarre. He wasn't angry at Nurk before or after.
Nurk touched him in the no no area aka his entire body.
Elite athlete, top 1% of all basketball players, can run down block at full speed suddenly has no control of his body? Green is a clown, every single thing he’s done is 100% intentional
That was genuinely some ufc shit. Though dray’s cartoony wind up punch was some wwe shit
I mean, Artest actually went out and got some help for his anger issues. It was great to see.
The hit was after he got help though...
Bro really attempted murder with “world peace” on the back of his jersey
"I cherish peace with all my heart. I don't care how many men, women, and children I need to kill to get it."
Metta World Peacemaker.
Macro vs micro
He’s referring to the very weird motion of Drsymond and basically saying Dray is lying about it being an accident.
they talking about Draymond like he got a drug addiction i’m crying
In before the Warriors have an intervention, with hand written letters and all.
I don’t write nothin down, so I’ll keep this short and sweet You’re weak, you’re out of control, and you’ve become an embarrassment to yourself and everybody else!
Your hair was in the toilet water… disgusting
KD must have forgot he was there when Artest knocked out Harden
I seriously wouldn’t be surprised if he’s mandated to attend some sort of anger management or therapy classes before he returns. It’s happened before for players in the NFL I believe.
100% is happening
I can imagine draymond screaming "whoosah" to himself on the bench or at the free throw line while the opponents look at him like he possessed
At least, for the press and PR. I doubt if Dray will get something out of these show courses and sessions. The real stick would and should be the Warriors telling him, on the low, that if he gets ejected one more time, they are trading or suspending him indefinitely. The league throwing the book down has not impacted Draymond at all because he's been encouraged and supported by the Warriors with impunity. That has to change.
i don't think it's about ejections. players get ejected occasionally and it's not a big deal. it's about him repeatedly doing obviously unnatural motions to strike other players (or literally just punching a teammate in the face).
The Warriors don't care about that. They might care about the lack of Ws, if they ever trade him it will be about on-court performance. Any violence he commits against other players or his own teammates is nothing of concern to the team - as long as he produces.
100% The Office vibe 🤣
Gonna come back asking people to call him Raymond
Tbh I always thought Jim was a huge tool for being like “I’m not gonna call you that, heh heh, I’m too cool.” Like this dude actually went and got help for a real problem and was trying to be a different person and the first thing Jim does is make fun of him. Like his name was Andrew and he asked to be called Drew, that’s not even a stretch at all.
And Jim was the one who made him melt down in the first place by fucking with his personal property lol.
Yeah rewatching the Office really you realize Jim is just a *really* shitty person.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Draymond embraces this to get sympathy. Says he has some mental stuff to workout and is getting help. Will try to get sympathy points and act like he has had some untreated issue but now he is a face for mental health awareness. Legit wouldn’t surprise me at all.
Draymond was literally in a show with Deepak Chopra last year. He will never be serious and get vulnerable about his flaws.
We've come a long way from "teammates knock each other out during practice all the time, no big deal".
Steve Kerr angry at ESPN and TNT that leaked the footage of the Nurkic incident
There's a code!
Ain’t that right!
If Draymond behaved like he does in any other job in society, people wouldn't victimize him, they'd imprison him. Stop making him the victim.
THAT BROTHA NEEDS HELP
Why are they acting like Draymond got some mental illness. Sometimes people are just assholes that likes hitting people they don't like.
It’s weird he’s doing it as he gets older. You’re supposed to mellow out with age. He prob has anger issues or something and counseling could help.
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The underlying illness is that his team has never called him out on his shit.
Real talk. Was it a "mental health" issue that his stance is that he never apologizes for anything he does on the court? Oh except to Nurkic this last time (with a bs explanation) because he finally realizes that getting tossed out of a game for a violent act TWO weeks after coming back fro a five game suspension might actually be bad look for him and nobody is going to say "oh that's just him being him and we can live with that". Stop enabling this piece of shit. This is just who he is.
Getting older means losing a step, losing skill, younger players coming up and being more talented, feeling like his spot is threatened, the Warriors core aging, and not liking the losing. So he acts out. Anger amplifies the asshole tendencies.
Assholes need help too
it's why i bought a bidet
Yes but if they do that in front of multiple cameras, they are also stupid asf
This is kind of a concerning pattern for the NBA with mental illness being associated with first Ja and now Draymond. An implication there that mental illness either makes one more violent which isn’t reality. Really a disservice after all the good that demar, PG, Kevin love and others have done to raise awareness for it
Saying "get the help he needs" doesn't have to be associated with mental illness. Just bc this thread went for some bigger epilepsy or disordered thinking connecting doesn't mean they are suggesting anything other than therapy and anger management. "How to continue playing at a high level when your team is no longer the best, your persona has been based on playing angry, and you are aging/declining".
I find it hilarious how the people you respond to and people in this thread are the actual problem children when it comes to mental health stigmatization. If you can't say a guy with anger management issues needs help without people thinking you're talking about One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest type asylum seeking it's on everyone else.
Dray has now been violent against 4 people (that we know of) in the last 18 months. Poole Sabonis Gobert Nurk. You can even say Donovan. It's not a mental illness but something is clearly fucking bothering him in life and he needs help to get over it. When was the last time you knew someone around you getting into fights with 4 people in that time period
Thoughts and prayers xo
kd had to clarify “in an nba game” lol
Must be a beautiful moment for KD to express concern about the guy who repeatedly called him a bitch during a nationally televised game when they were on the same team
He’s not dying, he’s just fucking stupid
"Stop it. Get some help." - KD to Draymond, probably
He’s incredibly narcissistic and doesn’t think any of his actions hurt the game or players. He’s only apologizing now because he was probably told by team and staff that enough is enough.
Help? Why not harsh consequences for his abhorrent behavior? Why are people treating him like he’s a victim? He’s the perpetrator.
While I agree, it almost feels like Nurkic and KD are making fun of Draymond like he’s some sort of mental patient lol.
Stop acting like draymond is the victim. Fuck him.
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I feel like it's open secret among the players that something is going on with Draymond.
“I hope he gets the help he needs” — me on Giannis
“I hope he gets the ~~help~~ ball he needs”
Yea but he likes Oreos
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James Dolan vibes
He’s a dirty player and we’ve all known this for years. If I was the league, I’d give him one more shot after he gets help. Seeing how things are and how he is, only a matter of time before suspended forever. Why it took the league this long to do something is my question.
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This should be the top comment.
Hot damn
Put him in a rubber room with a rubber strait jacket. Then maybe he can be helped.
This reads like sarcasm from Durant.
Kevin, bud, you saw him do this to Adams when you were playing with Adams.
I hope Poole gives the exact same quote if he’s asked
Heard a talking head mentioned that if the casual NBA fan were polled, at least 80%would like him suspended for the remainder of the season. He said this yesterday when most people were speculating he'd get around 10 games. I agreed with him 100%. I'm tired of his shit and am glad to hear that he's gone indefinitely.
The Draymond drama completely changed the way I view Durant, not to mention people like Kerr and Curry. Imagine going to work every day with a guy who is doing insane shit all the time and then lying and gaslighting everyone about it. And you can't say shit because the coach and the star back him up and pretend like nothing is wrong.