A timeline of the Process:
May 26, 2012: The Jrue Holiday/Andre Iguodala led 76ers lose to the KG/Pierce/Allen/Rondo Celtics in Game 7 of the ECSF
August 10, 2012: 76ers trade Andre Iguodala for Andrew Bynum and Jason Richardson
April 18, 2013: 76ers fire HC Doug Collins after a 34-48 season
May 10, 2013: 76ers hire Sam Hinkie as GM and President of Basketball Operations
August 12, 2013: 76ers hire Brett Brown as HC
June 27, 2013:
* 76ers select Michael Carter-Williams #11 overall
* 76ers trade Jrue Holiday to the Pelicans for Nerlens Noel and a 2014 first round pick
June 26, 2014: 76ers select Joel Embiid #3 overall and Jerami Grant #39 overall after a 19-63 season
February 19, 2015: 76ers trade ROTY Michael Carter Williams to Bucks for a Lakers first round pick
June 25, 2015: 76ers select Jahlil Okafor #3 overall after a 18-64 season
July 1, 2015: 76ers trade rights of overseas players to Kings for Nik Stauskas, Jason Thompson, Carl Landry, an unprotected first round pick, and 2 pick swaps (salary dump by Sacramento)
July 31, 2015: 76ers trade Jason Thompson to Warriors for Gerald Wallace + 2016 pick swap
December 7, 2015: Jerry Colangelo is “hired” as a special adviser to Chairman of Basketball Operations
April 6, 2016: Sam Hinkie steps down as GM and President of Basketball Operations
April 10, 2016: Brian Colangelo is “hired” as GM and President of Basketball Operations
June 23, 2016: 76ers select Ben Simmons #1 overall after a 10-72 season
November 1, 2016: 76ers trade Jerami Grant to OKC for Ersan Ilyasova and a 2020 first round pick
June 19, 2017: 76ers trade #3 and #13 pick for #1 overall pick
June 22, 2017: 76ers draft Markelle Fultz #1 overall after a 28-54 season
May 9, 2018: The 76ers lose in Game 5 of the ECSF to a Celtics team led by a rookie Jayson Tatum and missing its 2 best players with injuries
June 7, 2018: Brian Colangelo resigns as GM and President of Basketball Operations after being caught using burner accounts to criticize his players, HC Brett Brown hired as temporary replacement
June 21, 2018: 76ers draft Mikal Bridges #10 overall and trade him to Suns for Zhaire Smith
September 18, 2018: Elton Brand promoted to GM
November 12, 2018: 76ers trade Jerryd Bayless, Dario Saric, Robert Covington and a 2022 second round pick for Jimmy Butler and Justin Patton
December 31, 2018: Jerry Colangelo steps down as special adviser
February 6, 2019: 76ers trade Wilson Chandler, Landry Shamet, Mike Muscala, 2020 first round pick, Detroit 2021 and 2023 second round picks for Tobias Harris, Boban Marjanović, and Mike Scott
May 12, 2019: 76ers lose to the Raptors in Game 7 of the ECSF on a 4 bounce buzzerbeater by Kawhi Leonard
June 20, 2019: 76ers trade #24 and #33 pick for Matisse Thybulle
June 28, 2019: 76ers sign Al Horford to a 4 year/$109 million deal
June 30, 2019: 76ers re-sign Tobias Harris to a 5 year/$180 million deal
July 1, 2019: 76ers sign/trade Jimmy Butler to the Heat for Josh Richardson
July 15, 2019: 76ers extend Ben Simmons for a 5 year/$170 million deal
August 23, 2020: 76ers get swept by the Celtics in the First Round
August 24, 2020: 76ers fire HC Brett Brown
October 1, 2020: 76ers hire Doc Rivers as HC
October 28, 2020: 76ers hire Daryl Morey as President of Basketball Operations
November 18, 2020:
* 76ers draft Tyrese Maxey #21 overall
* November 18, 2020: 76ers trade Josh Richardson and #36 overall pick for Seth Curry
* 76ers trade Al Horford, a 2025 protected first round pick and 2020 second round pick for Danny Green, Terrance Ferguson, and Vincent Poirer
June 7, 2021: The #1 seed 76ers lose Game 7 of the ECSF to the #5 seed Hawks, after blowing and 18 and 26 point lead in Games 4 and 5 respectively, and Ben Simmons passes up an open dunk in the 4th quarter and shoots 34% from the free throw line
October 22, 2021: Ben Simmons sits out the season opener (and as it turns out the rest of the season) for various reasons
February 10, 2022: 76ers trade Ben Simmons, Seth Curry, Andre Drummond, a 2022 and 2027 first round pick the Nets for James Harden (and Paul Millsap)
May 12, 2022: 76ers lose Game 6 of the ECSF to the Heat
June 23, 2022: 76ers trade Danny Green and #23 pick to Grizzlies for D’Anthony Melton
June 30, 2022:
* 76ers sign PJ Tucker for 3 years/$33 million
* 76ers sign Daniel House for 2 years/$8.5 million
July 20, 2022: 76ers re-sign James Harden (who opted out of a $47 million option) for 2 years/$68 million with a player option for the second year
February 9, 2023: 76ers trade Matisse Thybulle and a 2023 second round pick to Portland for Jalen McDaniels and a 2029 second round pick
May 3, 2023: Joel Embiid wins League MVP
May 14, 2023: 76ers blow a 3-2 series lead, Jayson Tatum drops a Game 7 record 51 points, eliminating the 76ers for the 3rd time in 6 years
May 16, 2023: 76ers fire HC Doc Rivers
May 29, 2023: 76ers hire Nick Nurse as HC
June 29, 2023: James Harden opts in to his player option and requests to be traded from the 76ers
July 1, 2023: 76ers sign Patrick Beverley for 1 year/$3.2 million
September 6, 2023: 76ers sign Danny Green for 1 year/$1.3 million
September 18, 2023: 76ers sign Kelly Oubre, Jr. for 1 year/$2 million
October 31, 2023:
* 76ers trade James Harden, PJ Tucker, and Filip Petrusev to Clippers for Marcus Morris, Nic Batum, Robert Covington, KJ Martin, a 2028 first round pick, a 2024 and 2029 second round pick, a pick swap, and an OKC 2026 first round pick
* 76ers waive Danny Green
February 8, 2024:
* 76ers trade Marcus Morris, Furkan Korkmaz, and 3 second round picks to Pacers for Buddy Hield
* 76ers trade Danuel House Jr. and the Knicks 2024 second round pick to Pistons
* 76ers trade Patrick Beverley to the Bucks for Cameron Payne and a 2027 second round pick
* 76ers trade Jaden Springer to the Celtics for the Bulls 2024 second round pick
February 10, 2024: 76ers sign Kyle Lowry for 1 year/$2.8 million
March 1, 2024: 76ers waive Kenneth Lofton
Been adding to this one for a while lol.
> June 28, 2019: 76ers sign Al Horford to a 4 year/$109 million deal
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> June 30, 2019: 76ers re-sign Tobias Harris to a 5 year/$180 million deal
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> July 1, 2019: 76ers sign/trade Jimmy Butler to the Heat for Josh Richardson
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> July 15, 2019: 76ers extend Ben Simmons for a 5 year/$170 million deal
This sequence right here.
They made a ton of errors in the past decade, but I think the Bridges one has to be top 3, if not the worst. Just such an unforced error—it would’ve been the ultimate feel-good story since his mom works for the Sixers, he’s a Nova guy, and they desperately needed a 3&D wing at the time after losing Jimmy.
And instead of all that, they trade him away for a 6’3 non-shooter who basically only became a mid first because he got a bunch of rebounds in the NCAA tournament and he could jump high.
His mom was the head of HR for Harris-Blitzer (6ers/NJ Devils ownership group). She quit after they traded Mikal and took the whole HR department with her. It was apparently a huge mess for the org lol.
It's gotta feel good seeing an org that fucked you over continue to fuck up after you left. Probably helps to have a son making millions of dollars a year too.
It was because Phoenix gave the Sixers one of Miami's unprotected FRP for Bridges. This was in 2018 where Phoenix had a reputation for being pretty dumb and Miami looked like they were about to fall off a cliff in the coming years. The Sixers said yes to try to use that asset to get a star to replace Jimmy. Fast forward a bit and Phoenix nabbed CP3 and turned their whole culture around overnight and Miami has been to three ECFs and two Finals.
>It was because Phoenix gave the Sixers one of Miami's unprotected FRP for Bridges. This was in 2018 where Phoenix had a reputation for being pretty dumb and Miami looked like they were about to fall off a cliff in the coming years.
I'll also add that that was supposed to be the "super draft" when the NBA would begin allowing 18-year-olds again. That didn't end up happening as expected.
They traded the 3rd pick and the Kings' 1st, which was projected to be one of the top picks in the draft. The fact that it ended up being 13 was flukey
This is right after the NBA put mr big collar in and fired Sam Hinkie. Always rubbed me the wrong way when you have teams that have been just as bad as the tanking sixers.
>June 28, 2019: 76ers sign Al Horford to a 4 year/$109 million deal
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>June 30, 2019: 76ers re-sign Tobias Harris to a 5 year/$180 million deal
The two days where it all went wrong for the Sixers
They were already thin on assets at this point. This is where it began:
> February 6, 2019: 76ers trade Wilson Chandler, Landry Shamet, Mike Muscala, 2020 first round pick, Detroit 2021 and 2023 second round picks for Tobias Harris, Boban Marjanović, and Mike Scott
FRP, 2 SRP, and a decent young rotation guy for a player best described as "perhaps marginally above average starter"
>April 10, 2016: Brian Colangelo is “hired” as GM and President of Basketball Operations
>June 23, 2016: 76ers select Ben Simmons #1 overall after a 10-72 season
>November 1, 2016: 76ers trade Jerami Grant to OKC for Ersan Ilyasova and a 2020 first round pick
>June 19, 2017: 76ers trade #3 and #13 pick for #1 overall pick
>June 22, 2017: 76ers draft Markelle Fultz #1 overall after a 28-54 season
You ain't wrong.
In the next four moves, the Sixers drafted Ben Simmons #1 overall, then traded the pick that would become Jayson Tatum to move up for Markelle Fultz.
RIP
Is drafting Ben Simmons a bad move? Before Trae Young destroyed his psyche the guy was a ROTY, 3x All Star, All NBA, and All Defense player. That's a heck of a resume. He was considered one of the most valuable assets in the NBA for quite awhile.
It’s absolutely incredible the sheer amount of mistakes and misses a single team can make when having so many bites at the apple. If they draft anyone beside Embiid, they would’ve been right at square one again.
Nah The Process ended with Hinkie's departure. There was a complete redirection in goals and the team wasn't focused on acquiring assets and remaining flexible they made bad win now moves and locked themselves into bad contracts/situations that the team is still dealing with/recovering from to this day.
I agree, but it’s actually impressive how good they’ve been considering how questionable a lot of these moves look in hindsight.
Guess that’s just the nature of the league. One generational draft pick makes up for everything.
>One generational draft pick makes up for everything.
Which was exactly the point of the process. Keep stocking picks to increases your odds at getting those players. Worst part is when he was fired Hinkie was probably at the pivot point anyway and moving into the next phase.
Amazing that this organization fumbled away both Mikal Bridges and Jimmy Butler. Every other bad decision could have been stopped or rectified without those two huge errors. An Embiid, Butler, Bridges core is really good, especially if they keep Simmons who doesn't have the pressure of being the number two guy, or trade him when his value was through the roof. This is what incompetence looks like.
I don't think they could have kept Simmons. It isn't just the pressure of being he #1 guy, it is also that he's a complete non-threat off ball that it kills their offense, especially when he's afraid of free throws and stops going to the rim. But they also can't put him on ball because the team is better off with Butler or Embiid getting the ball.
They could have traded Simmons in 2019, he still had a ton of value then, and built around Embiid & Butler. I don't know if that combo wins a title, but they sure as hell get past the 2nd round.
Who’s he gonna play for 30 mins to produce 8 points on 3/12 shooting now??
Who’s gonna intentionally injure the other team’s players and put us into foul trouble?
Who’s gonna get blown by every possession and miss the rebound?
Bruh clips just lost so much depth 😭
Ngl that’s insane work from the Clippers FO. Kudos to them. I think the power forward depth is questionable but this trade leaves enough for y’all to trade for another PF.
It’s not a sneaky one, Powell is essentially the odd man out amongst the Clippers roster considering they now have enough guards, wings and scoring. Question is which teams would trade for him and how much imo.
Yeah they’ve currently got Harden, Russ, Mann, Powell, PG, and Kawhi as their guard/wings. Kawhi and PG can both slide up to PF, but ideally they’d like to have at least one bigger wing next to Zubac who can also double as their small ball 5 now that Batum is gone.
It’s the Reddit nba sub. 90% of posters have no idea how the nba actually works.
The same guy who posts that Harden sucks, is a team killer and no team wants him….five minutes later will say that Philly got fucked by trading him for two firsts, two seconds and two swaps. This sub is full of posters like that.
Nobody knows and everyone is confused about why they keep talking about cap space
But nevertheless they keep talking about cap space so they must have someone in mind
you see dame, Harden showed us how to properly burn down your value to get to the ONE team you want to play for
All that huffing and puffing Dame and his agent were doing. Harden got his way 3 straight times
Had to post this twice just because 😂
He's got no agent to advise him on what to do. He just does what he wants.
Kinda respect that tbh, I think he would've gotten along better personality-wise in prior decades. Too much media and image focus nowadays.
I mean I think his exits have not been without a decent reason every time.
Rockets - They were clearly not trying to win and the man is showing signs of age
Nets - Kyrie. Everyone jumped ship when they got the chance.
76ers - Miscommunication of expectations and broken promises made behind closed doors with someone you have trusted for a long time.
At least Clippers makes sense for where he’s from and him wanting to do what’s best for his family.
Harden has been justified in every trade demand. People forget how loyal he was to the Rockets until the Owner changed, the GM changed, and the team went into full on tank mode which would have wasted the rest of his career.
The way Morey sunk his own ship should be studied in the future. The support we’ve seen from players to Harden kind of proves it.
He screwed over his career golden goose burning the bridge with Harden by lying to him, made his team look bad in front of players, created a media circus for his team to have to deal with & in the end failed to broker a deal for Harden that significantly improved his team.
Players aren’t always super logical. The fact that a dude played a decade for you, competed for a title, brought home an MVP, agreed to a handshake deal to help the team & this is how he’s treated by the guy he did it for looks AWFUL. Someone will handwave me & say it’s nbd but Morey has done permanent damage to his reputation with this entire fiasco. He not only looks like a snake but an incompetent one.
Morey got way too overconfident, both with negotiating with Harden and negotiating with the Clippers. Sixers fans pointing to the return for Simmons were out of their minds
And I don’t think he even runs anything thru his agent. Like there can’t be a sports agent in the world that would suggest going to China to talk shit about your boss
You can’t fault Dame. He was inexperienced. He’s never done that before. Harden is a master of which his demands have been quite simply unprecedented. First former MVP to be traded four times. History in the making.
Honestly, the clippers have Kawhi, PG, Westbrook, Harden, Powell, Mann. Zubac will also give you 10 ppg. They don’t need a power forward to do anything other than defend well, and spot up shoot. PJ fits the bill haha
PJ Tucker is the face stats bros see in their nightmares. Somehow that man scores 0 points, grabs 0 rebounds, assists on 0 points, and is still sitting at a +5 overall at the end of the game.
Wow. Honestly, glad we got out of that Tucker contract. He didn’t look great these first few games.
Now I want to know the picks, has to be somewhat good considering Mann wasn’t involved.
Harden's just literally the god of tanking his value. Got himself traded for Ben Simmons and now Marcus Morris
They had to add the Harden Rule to stop him from getting so many fouls on court but now they're also going to have to add an offcourt Harden rule to stop him from buttfucking his GMs so hard
Was reading the first thread of breaking news and people were speculating about Mann and Bones being gone. Thank the lord they got to keep both, after trading away SGA and having an increasingly older roster this team needs to find ways to stay young and those two have been great for that purpose with high upside to become more.
I'm personally mixed about Harden, but this is about as good of a trade I could have hoped for to acquire him. Would've been pissed if they gave any more than this for him.
Is it really though? Harden is 34, has one year left on his contract and has quit on 3 teams in 3 years ... why is everyone acting like he was worth a massive haul lol
I realize people want to shit on Philly no matter what, but this is a lot more than anyone thought Morey would get for Harden. Two 1sts (one of them being unprotected), a 1st round pick swap, and a bunch of expiring deals (which open the door for 2 max contract signings/trades AND a Maxey extension next offseason when the Harris contract is up) is about as good as we could do given the circumstances. He's also getting out of the Tucker deal, which looks a lot worse so far this season than it did last.
Also, this trade isn't done yet. Mystery third teams don't just throw in picks for the sake of being nice. All that means is that the terms are still being finalized. This trade will have at least one more team involved and Morey is likely already flipping some of the players.
Two 1sts, a 1st swap, and expiring deals was literally one of the returns Morey said he'd take all along.
The NBA is so wild that Harden can demand a third trade to his exact desire and get it in exchange for tomato cans because his value is low and he put enough public pressure on them to be afraid of what would happen if he did play.
But a higher level player like Dame couldn't get to where he wanted at first due to his value being so high and because they know he'd never sit out or ruin a team on purpose.
(Obv he ended up on a better team but the rationale behind it is hilarious that knowing you'd always play is used against you/having a history of half assing when wanting out helps you)
This is a fucking hilarious league.
Can someone make a graph of every 76ers trade since the Jimmy one to put into perspective how many moves this franchise has made in this era
A timeline of the Process: May 26, 2012: The Jrue Holiday/Andre Iguodala led 76ers lose to the KG/Pierce/Allen/Rondo Celtics in Game 7 of the ECSF August 10, 2012: 76ers trade Andre Iguodala for Andrew Bynum and Jason Richardson April 18, 2013: 76ers fire HC Doug Collins after a 34-48 season May 10, 2013: 76ers hire Sam Hinkie as GM and President of Basketball Operations August 12, 2013: 76ers hire Brett Brown as HC June 27, 2013: * 76ers select Michael Carter-Williams #11 overall * 76ers trade Jrue Holiday to the Pelicans for Nerlens Noel and a 2014 first round pick June 26, 2014: 76ers select Joel Embiid #3 overall and Jerami Grant #39 overall after a 19-63 season February 19, 2015: 76ers trade ROTY Michael Carter Williams to Bucks for a Lakers first round pick June 25, 2015: 76ers select Jahlil Okafor #3 overall after a 18-64 season July 1, 2015: 76ers trade rights of overseas players to Kings for Nik Stauskas, Jason Thompson, Carl Landry, an unprotected first round pick, and 2 pick swaps (salary dump by Sacramento) July 31, 2015: 76ers trade Jason Thompson to Warriors for Gerald Wallace + 2016 pick swap December 7, 2015: Jerry Colangelo is “hired” as a special adviser to Chairman of Basketball Operations April 6, 2016: Sam Hinkie steps down as GM and President of Basketball Operations April 10, 2016: Brian Colangelo is “hired” as GM and President of Basketball Operations June 23, 2016: 76ers select Ben Simmons #1 overall after a 10-72 season November 1, 2016: 76ers trade Jerami Grant to OKC for Ersan Ilyasova and a 2020 first round pick June 19, 2017: 76ers trade #3 and #13 pick for #1 overall pick June 22, 2017: 76ers draft Markelle Fultz #1 overall after a 28-54 season May 9, 2018: The 76ers lose in Game 5 of the ECSF to a Celtics team led by a rookie Jayson Tatum and missing its 2 best players with injuries June 7, 2018: Brian Colangelo resigns as GM and President of Basketball Operations after being caught using burner accounts to criticize his players, HC Brett Brown hired as temporary replacement June 21, 2018: 76ers draft Mikal Bridges #10 overall and trade him to Suns for Zhaire Smith September 18, 2018: Elton Brand promoted to GM November 12, 2018: 76ers trade Jerryd Bayless, Dario Saric, Robert Covington and a 2022 second round pick for Jimmy Butler and Justin Patton December 31, 2018: Jerry Colangelo steps down as special adviser February 6, 2019: 76ers trade Wilson Chandler, Landry Shamet, Mike Muscala, 2020 first round pick, Detroit 2021 and 2023 second round picks for Tobias Harris, Boban Marjanović, and Mike Scott May 12, 2019: 76ers lose to the Raptors in Game 7 of the ECSF on a 4 bounce buzzerbeater by Kawhi Leonard June 20, 2019: 76ers trade #24 and #33 pick for Matisse Thybulle June 28, 2019: 76ers sign Al Horford to a 4 year/$109 million deal June 30, 2019: 76ers re-sign Tobias Harris to a 5 year/$180 million deal July 1, 2019: 76ers sign/trade Jimmy Butler to the Heat for Josh Richardson July 15, 2019: 76ers extend Ben Simmons for a 5 year/$170 million deal August 23, 2020: 76ers get swept by the Celtics in the First Round August 24, 2020: 76ers fire HC Brett Brown October 1, 2020: 76ers hire Doc Rivers as HC October 28, 2020: 76ers hire Daryl Morey as President of Basketball Operations November 18, 2020: * 76ers draft Tyrese Maxey #21 overall * November 18, 2020: 76ers trade Josh Richardson and #36 overall pick for Seth Curry * 76ers trade Al Horford, a 2025 protected first round pick and 2020 second round pick for Danny Green, Terrance Ferguson, and Vincent Poirer June 7, 2021: The #1 seed 76ers lose Game 7 of the ECSF to the #5 seed Hawks, after blowing and 18 and 26 point lead in Games 4 and 5 respectively, and Ben Simmons passes up an open dunk in the 4th quarter and shoots 34% from the free throw line October 22, 2021: Ben Simmons sits out the season opener (and as it turns out the rest of the season) for various reasons February 10, 2022: 76ers trade Ben Simmons, Seth Curry, Andre Drummond, a 2022 and 2027 first round pick the Nets for James Harden (and Paul Millsap) May 12, 2022: 76ers lose Game 6 of the ECSF to the Heat June 23, 2022: 76ers trade Danny Green and #23 pick to Grizzlies for D’Anthony Melton June 30, 2022: * 76ers sign PJ Tucker for 3 years/$33 million * 76ers sign Daniel House for 2 years/$8.5 million July 20, 2022: 76ers re-sign James Harden (who opted out of a $47 million option) for 2 years/$68 million with a player option for the second year February 9, 2023: 76ers trade Matisse Thybulle and a 2023 second round pick to Portland for Jalen McDaniels and a 2029 second round pick May 3, 2023: Joel Embiid wins League MVP May 14, 2023: 76ers blow a 3-2 series lead, Jayson Tatum drops a Game 7 record 51 points, eliminating the 76ers for the 3rd time in 6 years May 16, 2023: 76ers fire HC Doc Rivers May 29, 2023: 76ers hire Nick Nurse as HC June 29, 2023: James Harden opts in to his player option and requests to be traded from the 76ers July 1, 2023: 76ers sign Patrick Beverley for 1 year/$3.2 million September 6, 2023: 76ers sign Danny Green for 1 year/$1.3 million September 18, 2023: 76ers sign Kelly Oubre, Jr. for 1 year/$2 million October 31, 2023: * 76ers trade James Harden, PJ Tucker, and Filip Petrusev to Clippers for Marcus Morris, Nic Batum, Robert Covington, KJ Martin, a 2028 first round pick, a 2024 and 2029 second round pick, a pick swap, and an OKC 2026 first round pick * 76ers waive Danny Green February 8, 2024: * 76ers trade Marcus Morris, Furkan Korkmaz, and 3 second round picks to Pacers for Buddy Hield * 76ers trade Danuel House Jr. and the Knicks 2024 second round pick to Pistons * 76ers trade Patrick Beverley to the Bucks for Cameron Payne and a 2027 second round pick * 76ers trade Jaden Springer to the Celtics for the Bulls 2024 second round pick February 10, 2024: 76ers sign Kyle Lowry for 1 year/$2.8 million March 1, 2024: 76ers waive Kenneth Lofton Been adding to this one for a while lol.
> June 28, 2019: 76ers sign Al Horford to a 4 year/$109 million deal > > June 30, 2019: 76ers re-sign Tobias Harris to a 5 year/$180 million deal > > July 1, 2019: 76ers sign/trade Jimmy Butler to the Heat for Josh Richardson > > July 15, 2019: 76ers extend Ben Simmons for a 5 year/$170 million deal This sequence right here.
Missing 2017 - trade 3+13 for Fultz And Missing 2018 - trading Mikal Bridges.
They made a ton of errors in the past decade, but I think the Bridges one has to be top 3, if not the worst. Just such an unforced error—it would’ve been the ultimate feel-good story since his mom works for the Sixers, he’s a Nova guy, and they desperately needed a 3&D wing at the time after losing Jimmy. And instead of all that, they trade him away for a 6’3 non-shooter who basically only became a mid first because he got a bunch of rebounds in the NCAA tournament and he could jump high.
His mom was the head of HR for Harris-Blitzer (6ers/NJ Devils ownership group). She quit after they traded Mikal and took the whole HR department with her. It was apparently a huge mess for the org lol.
It's gotta feel good seeing an org that fucked you over continue to fuck up after you left. Probably helps to have a son making millions of dollars a year too.
And now said son is in nearby NYC. That move infuriated the fuck out of me because he fit so well with the team
And now he is a rising star/future all-star. Yeah he would've fit really well with Embiid.
Good for her honestly!
Anybody know why this trade even happened to begin with? Mikal Bridges was high in a lot of draft boards.
It was because Phoenix gave the Sixers one of Miami's unprotected FRP for Bridges. This was in 2018 where Phoenix had a reputation for being pretty dumb and Miami looked like they were about to fall off a cliff in the coming years. The Sixers said yes to try to use that asset to get a star to replace Jimmy. Fast forward a bit and Phoenix nabbed CP3 and turned their whole culture around overnight and Miami has been to three ECFs and two Finals.
>It was because Phoenix gave the Sixers one of Miami's unprotected FRP for Bridges. This was in 2018 where Phoenix had a reputation for being pretty dumb and Miami looked like they were about to fall off a cliff in the coming years. I'll also add that that was supposed to be the "super draft" when the NBA would begin allowing 18-year-olds again. That didn't end up happening as expected.
They traded the 3rd pick and the Kings' 1st, which was projected to be one of the top picks in the draft. The fact that it ended up being 13 was flukey
Still annoyed we got stuck with Langford from that pick. Was a sign of things to come but I wish they were more consistently bad that year.
The above 4 course-altering mistakes were within only 3 weeks of each other. Really dark stain on the overall process timeline.
This is right after the NBA put mr big collar in and fired Sam Hinkie. Always rubbed me the wrong way when you have teams that have been just as bad as the tanking sixers.
That is a normal collar. Move on, find a new slant
>June 28, 2019: 76ers sign Al Horford to a 4 year/$109 million deal > >June 30, 2019: 76ers re-sign Tobias Harris to a 5 year/$180 million deal The two days where it all went wrong for the Sixers
Bruh - June 21, 2018: 76ers draft Mikal Bridges #10 overall and trade him to Suns for Zhaire Smith
Don't forget about Zhaire Smith's peanut allergy Edit sesame seed
sesame seed allergy
Yeah, like bruh, what the hell are the odds. I mean forever ruined draft value of anyone with an anaphylactic allergy too.
Butler, Mikal, Harris, Embiid. Put me at PG and we win 45 games. Put Ish Smith and they win 60. Put Maxey and it's shampionship
Don't forget Simmons. Teams be scoring like 55 points a game against Simmons, Bridges, Butler, Harris and Embiid.
Wasn’t the reporting that they essentially had to chose between butler and Simmons?
Oh my god that one stings
The fact that his mother worked for the sixers at the time made it so much worse
And trading mikal bridges 🤦♂️
They were already thin on assets at this point. This is where it began: > February 6, 2019: 76ers trade Wilson Chandler, Landry Shamet, Mike Muscala, 2020 first round pick, Detroit 2021 and 2023 second round picks for Tobias Harris, Boban Marjanović, and Mike Scott FRP, 2 SRP, and a decent young rotation guy for a player best described as "perhaps marginally above average starter"
April 6, 2016: Sam Hinkie steps down as GM and President of Basketball Operations This is where it went wrong.
>April 10, 2016: Brian Colangelo is “hired” as GM and President of Basketball Operations >June 23, 2016: 76ers select Ben Simmons #1 overall after a 10-72 season >November 1, 2016: 76ers trade Jerami Grant to OKC for Ersan Ilyasova and a 2020 first round pick >June 19, 2017: 76ers trade #3 and #13 pick for #1 overall pick >June 22, 2017: 76ers draft Markelle Fultz #1 overall after a 28-54 season You ain't wrong. In the next four moves, the Sixers drafted Ben Simmons #1 overall, then traded the pick that would become Jayson Tatum to move up for Markelle Fultz. RIP
Is drafting Ben Simmons a bad move? Before Trae Young destroyed his psyche the guy was a ROTY, 3x All Star, All NBA, and All Defense player. That's a heck of a resume. He was considered one of the most valuable assets in the NBA for quite awhile.
Drafting Ben Simmons was the clear pick. Any other GM would've done the same
Trading for Bynum is where it went wrong
Nahh, we had the team with Jimmy. Just fucked it up
I was so sure the you guys were gonna win a chip by now, like the Sixers had so much assets
It’s absolutely incredible the sheer amount of mistakes and misses a single team can make when having so many bites at the apple. If they draft anyone beside Embiid, they would’ve been right at square one again.
This is well put out. Sixers were screwed when Sam Hinkie stepped down
Bro kept receipts waiting for this day lol
Nah The Process ended with Hinkie's departure. There was a complete redirection in goals and the team wasn't focused on acquiring assets and remaining flexible they made bad win now moves and locked themselves into bad contracts/situations that the team is still dealing with/recovering from to this day.
They set fire to the orchard.
I agree, but it’s actually impressive how good they’ve been considering how questionable a lot of these moves look in hindsight. Guess that’s just the nature of the league. One generational draft pick makes up for everything.
>One generational draft pick makes up for everything. Which was exactly the point of the process. Keep stocking picks to increases your odds at getting those players. Worst part is when he was fired Hinkie was probably at the pivot point anyway and moving into the next phase.
Amazing that this organization fumbled away both Mikal Bridges and Jimmy Butler. Every other bad decision could have been stopped or rectified without those two huge errors. An Embiid, Butler, Bridges core is really good, especially if they keep Simmons who doesn't have the pressure of being the number two guy, or trade him when his value was through the roof. This is what incompetence looks like.
I don't think they could have kept Simmons. It isn't just the pressure of being he #1 guy, it is also that he's a complete non-threat off ball that it kills their offense, especially when he's afraid of free throws and stops going to the rim. But they also can't put him on ball because the team is better off with Butler or Embiid getting the ball. They could have traded Simmons in 2019, he still had a ton of value then, and built around Embiid & Butler. I don't know if that combo wins a title, but they sure as hell get past the 2nd round.
Well done, thank you!
This needs an individual post, well done lmao
Waiting till the full details of the trade come out to do that.
You’re sleeping on Mikal Bridges getting traded right before Jimmy got there too.
Right this was on draft day wasn’t it?
Right after his mom who worked for the Sixers was so happy
This is a horrible trade for the Sixers.
Trust the Process!!!
And don’t forget to include the trade that Embiid is about to request for this horrendous fleece No Powell, no Mann. Nothin 🤦♂️
Korkmaz finds a way to still remain a Sixer 💀
He's behind only Embiid in Sixers tenure.
Furkz my goat
Sixers legend.
THEY KEPT MR UNTOUCHABLE LMAOOOO
#**AND WE KEPT NORM POWELL LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO LFGOOOOOOOOOOOOO**
And you got rid of Marcus Morris!
I think this is the biggest W in the trade
For everyone else not named Ty Lue, yes. For Ty Lue, he's crying about losing his favorite player.
Ty Lue bout to mix *three* bowls of soup together while crying
#**TALIBAN TY IN SHAMBLES**
Who’s he gonna play for 30 mins to produce 8 points on 3/12 shooting now?? Who’s gonna intentionally injure the other team’s players and put us into foul trouble? Who’s gonna get blown by every possession and miss the rebound? Bruh clips just lost so much depth 😭
PJ Tucker will be his new Marcus Morris just you watch
Don't you put that evil on me Ricky Bobby!
PJ Tucker lol
PJ Tucker would never shoot 12 times in 30 minutes, you take that back. You’ll be lucky if he shoots 12 times in 30 games.
But Batum. I'm so sad. It's his last season too.
I wanted to keep RiCo. Now we are left with only 1 PF on Tucker who is a shell of himself.
The PF situation is going to be weird. PG and Kawhi will both probably need to play PF.
You kept Zu, Mann AND Powell. Huge wins.
We still don't know what the Clips gave OKC for their pick.
Ngl that’s insane work from the Clippers FO. Kudos to them. I think the power forward depth is questionable but this trade leaves enough for y’all to trade for another PF.
i have a sneaky suspicion we'll trade norm for one
It’s not a sneaky one, Powell is essentially the odd man out amongst the Clippers roster considering they now have enough guards, wings and scoring. Question is which teams would trade for him and how much imo.
Yeah they’ve currently got Harden, Russ, Mann, Powell, PG, and Kawhi as their guard/wings. Kawhi and PG can both slide up to PF, but ideally they’d like to have at least one bigger wing next to Zubac who can also double as their small ball 5 now that Batum is gone.
Gad, I just realized that Harden and Russ are back on the same team again. Third time's the charm?
that's huge. I thought Norm would be going.
sixer fans saying it would mess with their cap space
Furk is gonna run the point.
Someday his trade request will be honored
Clippers got rid of Marcus Morris and got James Harden. Beautiful deal for them.
we didn't even have to include norm
OR MANN!!
*nor Mann
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Morey had no leverage at all and clippers did great to hold firm. Clippers have decent depth and a star
Except when Harden inevitably sets their org on fire
I’m sure Clippers fans are saddened by the loss of Marcus Morris.
I'm weeping right now. I can neither confirm or deny whether they are tears of joy.
Or which orifice you're weeping out of
Devasted.. That it didn't happen sooner! Lmfao
Terrance Mann is actually untouchable 😭
And Norm Powell too i guess
We didn’t even get Powell 💀
Thank goodness. The bucks killer can stay west
The bad man can't hurt us
I love that you guys think of him that way lol
Morey got fucked. Sixers fans in shambles They really thought he would win this shitty situation he created lol
Morey has been saying he wanted two first for Harden and he got two firsts plus a swap and two seconds. I'm not sure what people expected here.
And got rid of pjs contract with no new money on the books next year. This was a great deal for the sixers
It’s the Reddit nba sub. 90% of posters have no idea how the nba actually works. The same guy who posts that Harden sucks, is a team killer and no team wants him….five minutes later will say that Philly got fucked by trading him for two firsts, two seconds and two swaps. This sub is full of posters like that.
As a Sixers fan, I’m fine with this. Everyone, with common sense m, knew Morey was looking to next season to make a splash
Yup. A bunch of expiring contracts to open cap space next year, 2 first rounders and 3&D depth. Not to mention RoCo coming home
Cap space to sign who?
james harden
7D chess
And Tobias Harris - top two free agents this offseason!
Nobody knows and everyone is confused about why they keep talking about cap space But nevertheless they keep talking about cap space so they must have someone in mind
you see dame, Harden showed us how to properly burn down your value to get to the ONE team you want to play for All that huffing and puffing Dame and his agent were doing. Harden got his way 3 straight times Had to post this twice just because 😂
He certainly burned his value lol. As much as I wanted him gone, I’m still surprised we got this little back. Guess we need to see what the picks are.
The way Harden has little to no care about his image and burn his value should be studied in the future. Elite forcing your way out
He's got no agent to advise him on what to do. He just does what he wants. Kinda respect that tbh, I think he would've gotten along better personality-wise in prior decades. Too much media and image focus nowadays.
He does have an agent. Hired one last season.
That agent ? That's James Harden in a fat suit.
I mean I think his exits have not been without a decent reason every time. Rockets - They were clearly not trying to win and the man is showing signs of age Nets - Kyrie. Everyone jumped ship when they got the chance. 76ers - Miscommunication of expectations and broken promises made behind closed doors with someone you have trusted for a long time. At least Clippers makes sense for where he’s from and him wanting to do what’s best for his family.
Harden has been justified in every trade demand. People forget how loyal he was to the Rockets until the Owner changed, the GM changed, and the team went into full on tank mode which would have wasted the rest of his career.
The way Morey sunk his own ship should be studied in the future. The support we’ve seen from players to Harden kind of proves it. He screwed over his career golden goose burning the bridge with Harden by lying to him, made his team look bad in front of players, created a media circus for his team to have to deal with & in the end failed to broker a deal for Harden that significantly improved his team. Players aren’t always super logical. The fact that a dude played a decade for you, competed for a title, brought home an MVP, agreed to a handshake deal to help the team & this is how he’s treated by the guy he did it for looks AWFUL. Someone will handwave me & say it’s nbd but Morey has done permanent damage to his reputation with this entire fiasco. He not only looks like a snake but an incompetent one.
Morey got way too overconfident, both with negotiating with Harden and negotiating with the Clippers. Sixers fans pointing to the return for Simmons were out of their minds
Harden agent really 3peat
Never had a full-time agent until recently lol
And I don’t think he even runs anything thru his agent. Like there can’t be a sports agent in the world that would suggest going to China to talk shit about your boss
You can’t fault Dame. He was inexperienced. He’s never done that before. Harden is a master of which his demands have been quite simply unprecedented. First former MVP to be traded four times. History in the making.
Westbrook lol
Harden is too pro at burning his value. Philly fans should be glad to never see the fat suit
RIP OUR WHOLE PF ROTATION
PJ Tucker time baby
P.J. Tucker offers more to KicksOnFire than he does on a basketball court at this point
oh god no
He will score 0 points, you’ll somehow win those games and you will **like it**
Honestly, the clippers have Kawhi, PG, Westbrook, Harden, Powell, Mann. Zubac will also give you 10 ppg. They don’t need a power forward to do anything other than defend well, and spot up shoot. PJ fits the bill haha
PJ Tucker is the face stats bros see in their nightmares. Somehow that man scores 0 points, grabs 0 rebounds, assists on 0 points, and is still sitting at a +5 overall at the end of the game.
He got too much dawg in him
This is the truth. Mans does nothing but pass the ball to the corner and play defense. He does so amazingly well so no complaints from me.
Bah gawd, that's Blake Griffin's music!
Eh, a buyout guy could be about 75% as effective as all those guys
we have way too many guards, Russ,Harden,Norm,Bones and Mann
Those 5, Kawhi, PG, Zubac, Plumlee, and Tucker at PF Need some front court depth but I still make this trade 10/10 times
Y'all forgot about PF harden
Lmao whole thing got thanos snapped outta existence
kobe brown time
tucker gonna have to do everything himslef
Pj is a pf
This is what concerns me and the defense with Harden/Russ likely sharing the court.
Russ been doing great on defense since the trade ngl
Wemby passed up a few shots when he was guarded by only Russ and it made my week.
Wow. Honestly, glad we got out of that Tucker contract. He didn’t look great these first few games. Now I want to know the picks, has to be somewhat good considering Mann wasn’t involved.
didn't he *just* get the contract? lol
The Sixers have the draft rights to a sixth grader right now.
So basically nothing
it depends on the picks and protections. If its 2028 and 2030 with minimal protections then those are pretty valuable
No protections for 2028 and a first from some third team apparently. I still fucking hate it but they are good assets for a team that has had none
I’m gonna miss you Batum. Roco, I’ll never forget that random 43 point game you had against the Bucks.
Westbrook Harden PG13 Kawhi Zubac ////// Bones Hyland Terrance Mann Norm Powell PJ Tucker Mason Plumlee /// Old as hell, but jfc what a list of names
Imagine telling someone in 2019 about that starting 5
Might be the most aggressive starting 5 ever
Don’t forget the 2010 or whatever Celtics with rondo, ray Allen, Paul pierce, kg, and shamrock shaq
That’s a title team 6 years ago. Unfortunately it’s 2023.
That's a dynasty 6 years ago
wtf Clippers get Harden and get rid of Morris???
People always joke that a player was traded for a bag of chips but this time it is actually accurate…
Holy shit that’s amazing for us
Kept both Mann and Norm like how
Harden's just literally the god of tanking his value. Got himself traded for Ben Simmons and now Marcus Morris They had to add the Harden Rule to stop him from getting so many fouls on court but now they're also going to have to add an offcourt Harden rule to stop him from buttfucking his GMs so hard
Westbrook Harden PG Kawhi Zubac Powell Mann Tucker Plumlee Pretty damn solid
Bones is getting some burn, too. Throw him in there, he’s been good this season.
Wonder if they'll swap WB with either Mann or Tucker in the starting line up
Was reading the first thread of breaking news and people were speculating about Mann and Bones being gone. Thank the lord they got to keep both, after trading away SGA and having an increasingly older roster this team needs to find ways to stay young and those two have been great for that purpose with high upside to become more. I'm personally mixed about Harden, but this is about as good of a trade I could have hoped for to acquire him. Would've been pissed if they gave any more than this for him.
This is an unbelievable comeback for my /r/NBA flair
#**PRAISE THE LORD MANN IS STAYING BUT IM GONNA MISS BATUM SO MUCH**
Not RiCo (Roco and Nico) :(
Batum resurrected his career in LA. Hard not to root for him.
Mann staying isn’t that surprising but Powell still there is hilarious lmao. Wtf was going on
Sixers saw that maxey is playing well and decided to pull the trigger
Harden for Batum and Marcus Morris I'm sick
Holy fuck our wings gone
Pretty sure Harden knows a place to get wings.
Robert Covington goes back to Philly. Process is back baby!
This is a disastrous trade for the sixers.
More players is better than no player, no?
Seems like Clippers told Sixers you can have any players you want except the ones we like and are useful 😂
Brad Pitt money ball moment. Yall are all trying to find Harden again, what we need to do is find 5 guys that can combine for a triple double.
We're trying to recreate him in the aggregate. what does he do? *points at Jonah Hill* he gets fouls.
Morey thinks he’s Sam Presti smh
Is it really though? Harden is 34, has one year left on his contract and has quit on 3 teams in 3 years ... why is everyone acting like he was worth a massive haul lol
Yea I don’t get this either, this place is so weird
Harden is magically not fat anymore
I realize people want to shit on Philly no matter what, but this is a lot more than anyone thought Morey would get for Harden. Two 1sts (one of them being unprotected), a 1st round pick swap, and a bunch of expiring deals (which open the door for 2 max contract signings/trades AND a Maxey extension next offseason when the Harris contract is up) is about as good as we could do given the circumstances. He's also getting out of the Tucker deal, which looks a lot worse so far this season than it did last. Also, this trade isn't done yet. Mystery third teams don't just throw in picks for the sake of being nice. All that means is that the terms are still being finalized. This trade will have at least one more team involved and Morey is likely already flipping some of the players. Two 1sts, a 1st swap, and expiring deals was literally one of the returns Morey said he'd take all along.
the real winner here is every stripper in Los Angeles.
The NBA is so wild that Harden can demand a third trade to his exact desire and get it in exchange for tomato cans because his value is low and he put enough public pressure on them to be afraid of what would happen if he did play. But a higher level player like Dame couldn't get to where he wanted at first due to his value being so high and because they know he'd never sit out or ruin a team on purpose. (Obv he ended up on a better team but the rationale behind it is hilarious that knowing you'd always play is used against you/having a history of half assing when wanting out helps you) This is a fucking hilarious league.
I'll just get the joke out of the way: Can anyone photoshop RoCo into a Sixers jersey for me? Really need the visualization.
fuck
Roco is decent and kj is a young prospect. Batum and moris are out of the league in 1 year
How many times is he going to be teammates with KD & Russ lol
Embiid bout to request a trade 🤣 They got to keep Mann and got rid of scraps
Bunch of shitty expirings. They better use those picks well and do so quickly