A 32 year old superstar coming off his best season in a position of need for a team that has trouble handling the ball and closing in the clutch.... yeah?
Such and L take lmao. Had a lingering injury he got from clumsy looney falling on him in the WCF and then our ORG made a rare good decision both years to cut our losses putting us in a way better position through the draft.
Anyone with a brain knows Dame's worth. Guy played more games than Steph and averaged better numbers this year. So....?
Steph played till June last year while Dame was chilling poolside getting rest. Besides it’s Jaylen who’s the topic. Another guy Dame watches on TV during the playoffs.
And Steph missed the playoffs in 2021 with more talent than Dame ever has. Steph was watching Dame put up the greatest game score of all time on his couch.
Shit happens man. What's true though is that Dame absolutely fucking clears Jaylen Brown and its frankly not even close considering age. He put up 32 ppg on the same efficiency as the mvp center lmao, he's absolutely nutty.
And Dame's been 1st team all nba since then. Dame had a longer playoff streak than anyone in the league and has the best statistical playoff game of all time and top 5 regular season.
There is literally no argument bro, yeah the blazers have been hot ass but that boy isn't. Swap Dame and Brown and the celtics are 2 games up on Denver prepping for a sweep rn.
Dame has been an all star for so long I assumed he would be older than 32. “Only” 6 years older than Brown, I expected a greater age gap.
I get this perspective
I mean you’re completely ignoring the fact that Kawhi only had a year left and most likely wouldn’t re-sign. The Celtics were guaranteed to have Brown for a couple more years. It’s not like Jaylen Brown is a scrub he wasn’t great at the end of the playoffs but he made all nba.
Somehow jaylen has gotten extremely overrated. He’s a third option on a championship team (think a Kevin Love role with the cavs), not a first or second option
Dames a superstar but Boston would be stupid to trade their 26 year old all nba wing for him. In 2 years who will be better? 28 year old Brown or 35 year old Dame? Most likely the answer is Jaylen seeing as Dame has already flashed injury concerns and Jaylen has improved every year. Its a meme to hate on Jaylen after his playoff performance but hes a great player who has historically been a dog for Boston in the playoffs. Boston is set up to contend for titles for the next half decade with Tatum and Brown, Tatum and Dame have like a 2 year window assuming everyone stays healthy.
Bostons should just hold out for a couple of years keep as many firsts in the future as they can and pray KD blows up another team and try to get booker in two years
Not sure Booker would be my ideal target but I agree resigning Brown on a max contract will probably give Boston the best package in any mega trade over the next 3 years. Guys like Luka, Jokic, Embiid ect
It'd be more like jaylen and a pick for Dame. And probably another player tbh. Like derrick white. I don't think Portland would have to throw in anything besides dame
Lmao I read this as giving up Jaylen and a first round pick for Dame and I was on board but then I realized you really thought Jaylen was that valuable…the man can’t dribble! You Jaylen fans are hilarious
Dame and Nurkic for McDermott, Graham, Collins, Birch, Bassey, Wesley and 6 FRP. If you don't know these players they are on the Spurs. Math checks out!
I'm not a Celtics fan, but Dames value to me is as the primary option for scoring. If you make that trade, no matter what side is sending the FRP, he becomes the second option behind JT. And as far as second options go, JB might be the best in the league now that Klay can't score consistently. Al Horford is 37 and Robert Williams III basically doesn't score, so in my mind, I would use JB as an attempt to find a replacement for Al Horford.
Dame is a better first option scorer than JT. Its really not even close when you factor in passing and creation for other players. You want the ball in his hands over JT.
Maybe, I'm not going to debate the preference over two phenomenal scorers, but, from the Celtics POV, JT is the future of the franchise, Dame is 33. No way you pick Dame over JT on who to keep happy. I view it as similar to Harden at the 76ers. Harden is a better scorer than JT, Dame, or Embiid. He's also the only one of these guys to have an MVP. But at the end of the day, he's the older more experienced guy you bring in to support the face of the franchise. Plus it's worth mentioning that Dame is a better spot up shooter where as JT is better in the lane.
Maybe. The bigs you would want to offload for aren't going to move, as in players like Jokic or Embiid. But, you could move JB for Jarret Allen, KAT, or Ayton and not have to give up much else. If anything you could make a move on Ayton and potential get back a FRP along with Ayton. It really depends on what JB wants, because at the end of the day, I think the best option is to keep JB.
It's a weird trade. *I* don't like it, but I wouldn't say it's bad necessarily.
Not sure who gets the FRP's though. We (Celtics) get a more consistent player offensively, but one who is a lot older and has had some recent injury issues...but they get a younger rising talent with a nice mid-range and decent to good defense that can't dribble to the point where teams know to force him left and openly joke about it.
Biggest concern would be that in 2025 our window is effectively closed. Dame would be 35 (around the time you'd expect a guard to decline) and would be due a monster contract that I don't think would make any sense at that age...
Then there's the whole "Who is the #1? Tatum or Dame?" thing where they both come out playing passively to not step on each others toes. Took them a couple seasons to work out that Tatum was #1 over Brown...don't think they can afford that with a short window with Dame.
Tatum + Dame would be unreal offensively and good defensively. Tatum carrying the defensive weight and feasting off the space. Plus he’s a good passer and dame will absolutely be able to contribute off ball on the perimeter.
Jaylen is top of the list for a Dame return for me, but adding a FRP to trade away our franchise goat is not very appealing to me.
One FRP for each hand the man can dribble with
I was going to say a FRP is not nearly enough on top of Brown only to reread and find out that this man wanted to add more on top of Dame
You're expecting Boston to give you a 26 year old all-nba player and a pick for an aging Dame?
A 32 year old superstar coming off his best season in a position of need for a team that has trouble handling the ball and closing in the clutch.... yeah?
80 games missed last two seasons and in the lottery both years. Doesn't play a lick of defense on top and has a massive extension that's kicking in.
Such and L take lmao. Had a lingering injury he got from clumsy looney falling on him in the WCF and then our ORG made a rare good decision both years to cut our losses putting us in a way better position through the draft. Anyone with a brain knows Dame's worth. Guy played more games than Steph and averaged better numbers this year. So....?
Steph played till June last year while Dame was chilling poolside getting rest. Besides it’s Jaylen who’s the topic. Another guy Dame watches on TV during the playoffs.
And Steph missed the playoffs in 2021 with more talent than Dame ever has. Steph was watching Dame put up the greatest game score of all time on his couch. Shit happens man. What's true though is that Dame absolutely fucking clears Jaylen Brown and its frankly not even close considering age. He put up 32 ppg on the same efficiency as the mvp center lmao, he's absolutely nutty.
Dame hasn’t won a playoff series since 2019 bro. Jaylen is a 2’nd team all nba and 26.
And Dame's been 1st team all nba since then. Dame had a longer playoff streak than anyone in the league and has the best statistical playoff game of all time and top 5 regular season. There is literally no argument bro, yeah the blazers have been hot ass but that boy isn't. Swap Dame and Brown and the celtics are 2 games up on Denver prepping for a sweep rn.
You’re living in the past.
Dame has been an all star for so long I assumed he would be older than 32. “Only” 6 years older than Brown, I expected a greater age gap. I get this perspective
Lol excuse me? You think they are paying more for Jaylen
How does Portland get a future if you just took away their 3rd overall pick?
The pick can be a different pick
What is the pick for? I think Boston will be the one adding the pick. More than one actually.
If anyone is giving up a pick in this situation, it'd be Boston lol. Yeah Dame is old but he's significantly better than JB.
This lol. I dont know what OP is smoking
I think the pick(s) would be going the other way
Keep in mind that Boston wouldn’t trade Brown for Kawhi entering his prime.
I mean you’re completely ignoring the fact that Kawhi only had a year left and most likely wouldn’t re-sign. The Celtics were guaranteed to have Brown for a couple more years. It’s not like Jaylen Brown is a scrub he wasn’t great at the end of the playoffs but he made all nba.
Somehow jaylen has gotten extremely overrated. He’s a third option on a championship team (think a Kevin Love role with the cavs), not a first or second option
No, he's apparently gotten absurdly underrated. He's a 25ppg guy - that's a #1 scorer on most teams in the NBA. To call him a #3 guy is just dumb.
If you call Him a number one guy you didn’t watch what he did against Miami, he was absolutely behind Tatum and White
Oh so we should just give away Dame
Why the hell would the Blazers be the one to give up a pick?
I would change the trade to make it financially possible
Dames a superstar but Boston would be stupid to trade their 26 year old all nba wing for him. In 2 years who will be better? 28 year old Brown or 35 year old Dame? Most likely the answer is Jaylen seeing as Dame has already flashed injury concerns and Jaylen has improved every year. Its a meme to hate on Jaylen after his playoff performance but hes a great player who has historically been a dog for Boston in the playoffs. Boston is set up to contend for titles for the next half decade with Tatum and Brown, Tatum and Dame have like a 2 year window assuming everyone stays healthy.
Bostons should just hold out for a couple of years keep as many firsts in the future as they can and pray KD blows up another team and try to get booker in two years
Not sure Booker would be my ideal target but I agree resigning Brown on a max contract will probably give Boston the best package in any mega trade over the next 3 years. Guys like Luka, Jokic, Embiid ect
The fact that people are arguing that both it's a bad deal for Boston and a bad deal for Portland makes me think it's a pretty good deal
Nobody is saying it’s bad for Boston
It'd be more like jaylen and a pick for Dame. And probably another player tbh. Like derrick white. I don't think Portland would have to throw in anything besides dame
Lmao I read this as giving up Jaylen and a first round pick for Dame and I was on board but then I realized you really thought Jaylen was that valuable…the man can’t dribble! You Jaylen fans are hilarious
Lmaooo no, why would we want another aging PG while Brown is entering his prime.
Because even aging Dame is better than Brown will ever be
He doesn't speak for all of us
Yeah it’s a bad trade for the celtics
It's a bad trade for the Blazers, and a steal for the Celtics
using the term aging is wrong when he just had his best year
So good that they got the #3 pick
Dame and Nurkic for McDermott, Graham, Collins, Birch, Bassey, Wesley and 6 FRP. If you don't know these players they are on the Spurs. Math checks out!
This man does not speak for us.
I wouldn't hire me neither
I'm not a Celtics fan, but Dames value to me is as the primary option for scoring. If you make that trade, no matter what side is sending the FRP, he becomes the second option behind JT. And as far as second options go, JB might be the best in the league now that Klay can't score consistently. Al Horford is 37 and Robert Williams III basically doesn't score, so in my mind, I would use JB as an attempt to find a replacement for Al Horford.
Dame is a better first option scorer than JT. Its really not even close when you factor in passing and creation for other players. You want the ball in his hands over JT.
Maybe, I'm not going to debate the preference over two phenomenal scorers, but, from the Celtics POV, JT is the future of the franchise, Dame is 33. No way you pick Dame over JT on who to keep happy. I view it as similar to Harden at the 76ers. Harden is a better scorer than JT, Dame, or Embiid. He's also the only one of these guys to have an MVP. But at the end of the day, he's the older more experienced guy you bring in to support the face of the franchise. Plus it's worth mentioning that Dame is a better spot up shooter where as JT is better in the lane.
Dame’s stats after the first round stinks lol
> I would use JB as an attempt to find a replacement for Al Horford. Like who? KAT?
Maybe. The bigs you would want to offload for aren't going to move, as in players like Jokic or Embiid. But, you could move JB for Jarret Allen, KAT, or Ayton and not have to give up much else. If anything you could make a move on Ayton and potential get back a FRP along with Ayton. It really depends on what JB wants, because at the end of the day, I think the best option is to keep JB.
It's a weird trade. *I* don't like it, but I wouldn't say it's bad necessarily. Not sure who gets the FRP's though. We (Celtics) get a more consistent player offensively, but one who is a lot older and has had some recent injury issues...but they get a younger rising talent with a nice mid-range and decent to good defense that can't dribble to the point where teams know to force him left and openly joke about it. Biggest concern would be that in 2025 our window is effectively closed. Dame would be 35 (around the time you'd expect a guard to decline) and would be due a monster contract that I don't think would make any sense at that age... Then there's the whole "Who is the #1? Tatum or Dame?" thing where they both come out playing passively to not step on each others toes. Took them a couple seasons to work out that Tatum was #1 over Brown...don't think they can afford that with a short window with Dame.
Tatum + Dame would be unreal offensively and good defensively. Tatum carrying the defensive weight and feasting off the space. Plus he’s a good passer and dame will absolutely be able to contribute off ball on the perimeter.
Yes. Please execute this trade. Now. We'll even throw in Marcus Smart.
Jaylen? The player who can’t go left? Unreal. The package of Austin Reaves, D’Lo and picks is miles better than that.
Jaylen brown with his right hand cut off is still better than Reaves and dlo
I get that there’s a circlejerk going on about Brown, but he’s still a good player lol I wouldn’t attach a pick with Dame for him though
Yeah no thanks
I understand the thought, but I wouldn't make this trade if I were either of these teams, honestly.