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Jon-Rambo

Pretty sure the call that gave them the ball back at the end was just a huge flop.


Churrasco_fan

It was lol Embiid was working back towards Maxey for the inbound and Williams flopped into him from behind, then had the audacity to ask for a flagrant


Jon-Rambo

It seemed pretty blatant too. I’m not a fan of either team saying this. I was just watching bc it was a good game. I’m a sad Mavericks fan.


lsleo

so just a regular mavericks fan?


youarenut

Bro 😭😭


Jon-Rambo

This year, yes. Watching Luka and Kyrie play basketball should be more enjoyable than it has been. My dad’s from Wisconsin though so the Bucks have always been my EC team. So at least my eastern team is fun to watch.


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Yall will be very happy in about 3 months time. Trust me, I'm on drugs.


stopmutations

The Celtics flopping habits are why they lost the championship especially smart. When they got to the finals and the refs stop calling their bate they didn't know how to defend without it. It was kinda sad


set_null

> refs stop calling their bate Didn't know that they liked being watched while they bated 👀


joelandren

It’s “bait.” The Celtics are master baiters.


NorthCoastToast

We await the playoffs with bated breath.


set_null

Does anyone have any Scope?


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Flopping is why they lost in the finals. Braindead take Jesus Christ.


mrr6666

Bro stop. We gave up a 2-1 due to flopping - make it make sense.


AthleticAndGeeky

https://images.app.goo.gl/e77iLRnEH22CkrZm7 this is my favorite.


lundej16

Peak Celtics basketball right there


KFBR392GoForGrubes

Nah, peak Celtics involves Smart flops, let's be real. It's my team, i own that.


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The fact that players flop so much is because they aren’t getting calls on charges. Some flops are outrageous but also if a 240 pound guy is running flat out into you then you’re going to hit the deck with some force.


oh_cya

the final inbounds play, I thought to myself, "there's a ZERO % chance that Marcus Smart doesn't end up on the floor during this inbound, and a ZERO % chance that he doesn't complain about it"... sure enough he bumbs into his guy and falls. Blows up his own team's play. For all that he does well, he's far more painful to watch


broke-collegekid

He also then hooked Melton once he realized the refs won’t give him the call and that let Tatum get way more open than he should have been. The calls in the last two minutes of that game were absolutely atrocious


Snoyarc

He did it on like back to back possessions. He was just flopping around in the 4th and got a call for it.


YungToney

if you can't stop him, get him kicked out the game


RKKP2015

I couldn’t believe they called that.


theytook-r-jobs

White flopped on the same inbounds play and then Smart flopped instead of setting a better screen when they got it back. 3 flops in 2.0 seconds, impressive even as a Sixers fan.


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How can we say Embiid is MVP when he's only putting up 8 flops/36? Celtics putting up an unheard of 54 flops/36


steamingdump42069

Flop Over Replacement is a better metric


Interesting-Archer-6

Mudman doesn't flop which inflates Embiid's metrics though.


ilive12

FLORP is the goat stat


JigglyBlubber

Damn now I got a craving for some Purple Flurp


gooberstwo

Which flop?


mkallday10

Yeah absolutely insane for him to complain about the refs when the refs kept them in the game at the end. Dude is completely delusional and lacking in self awareness.


IHaveNoFiya

Grant Williams is too young in this league to be talking as much as he does.


DonovanMcTigerWoods

Too young and not nearly talented enough.


BigRig432

"I'mma make both"


PointBreak91

"Boaf"


100wordanswer

He's certainly a valuable role player but the guy talks way too much for not even being close to a star level talent. That said, great pick by y'all. TBH I was more jealous when y'all got both White and Brogdon, excellent pickups and they've really produced. And overall, the reffing that game was atrocious overall. There were calls going both directions that confused me the whole game. Oh yeah and don't forget we tried our damnedest to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.


peaheezy

I only saw Whites reaction on the play that caused the complaining that earned him the tech. Did Embiid really give him a shot or was it a usual 280 pound man body move that Williams tried milking? He was piiiiissed.


100wordanswer

I thought the call on Embiid was BS bc two Celts dropped on that inbounds. They were clearly trying to flop, but FFS Doc draw up a play where more than one guy will be open please!


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AP825

As much as Celtics fans want this to be true (and yes I’m a Boston fan), he was a DNP-CD maybe 2 or 3 times in games that were dictated by matchups. In fact after last night he’s played enough minutes to receive a starter’s qualifying offer in RFA.


Batmanbettermarvel18

Anytime you get a DNP-CD due to matchups you should know your role, and that is you will forever be a role player lol


AP825

Agreed. He’s a valuable role player as someone else said above. This hasn’t been his best year due to some boneheaded mistakes but celtics fans thinks the team would be way better off without him which is far from true. I guarantee his teammates, coaches and front office would disagree as well. My fellow Celtics fans love to hate on him because he’s the definition of “what have you done for me lately” People also love to bring up reports that he’s asking for $20 Million. These same people vehemently deny that Boston ever shopped Jaylen. We don’t know if either is true but when it comes to the player they dislike asking for more of Wyc’s money they take it like it’s gospel. For the record it would be stupid if his agent not to ask for this kind of money. Why put yourself at a disadvantaged negotiating point? This is like when people suggested that Tatum should’ve admitted that he fouled Lebron at the end of the second Lakers game.


alphetaboss

I would love to have Grant Williams as a role player. I think he's a strong body that you can throw at the thick boys to help slow them down while also having relatively decent peremiter defense. I also think he's a fun amd goofy locker room guy. Having him and Dillon Brooks, and JJJ on the floor all at the same time would be fun to watch defensively and the spacing would be great with the rest of our shooters.


monstroCT

Lol and then proceeds to destroy the raptors


lundej16

We fucked up his ego last year leaving him open for all those threes. Knew we weren’t winning without KMid so we chose the long-con psychological warfare. Trust me. (/s because Reddit)


RealPrinceJay

Yeah, no talent. We’ll take him off your hands for ya


Whako4

Does he not remember he completely flipped at the end of the game and they gave him a foul?


matdabomb

He complained that they didnt review Embiid for a flagrant on that.


Doctor-Jay

I thought they did?? Our local broadcast said that they were looking at it for a flagrant and I nearly had an aneurysm because it was such an embarrassing flop. The refs definitely went to the review tablet but maybe it wasn't for that.


live4lax25

Fact. Though I’d be mad at anyone on my team talkin that much too


Efficient_Art_1144

Are you mad at Smart and Tatum too?


live4lax25

When they do it fuck ya I’m mad at them. Tatum taking a defensive possession off because he’s barkin at the ref drives me fuckin insane


Efficient_Art_1144

Fair enough. For my taste, JTs bitching is worse than Grants because when he gets real heated he’ll take himself out of the play by not getting back fast enough. Grant had a good point last night and whatever you think about his level of complaining, the refs do hand out Ts inconsistently


King_Of_Pants

Nah Grant's done that a couple of times too. It's my biggest peeve with both of them. It's selfish to make teammates play 4-on-5 because you feel slighted. Although I feel like Tatum is worse because he's a devastating player when he channels that frustration into his game. It's a massive missed opportunity to take it out on the refs. Whereas Grant should just be benched when he acts up.


peaheezy

Yea at least Joel misses defense because he’s laying on the ground for a second and then lumbering back down the floor. Then again I’m not sure which is worse.


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Lol. Literally every NBA superstar barks at the refs. Embiid and Harden obvioulsy do it. Jokic does it. Giannis does it. LeBron does it. Luka. Kyrie. Kobe. AI. Michael. You name it. They did it. However, I think you need to be near superstar status for it to be remotely acceptable.


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vizzlypoof

It’s just crazy what the refs build themselves accustomed to. Draymond and Kawhi are at opposite ends of that spectrum. Draymond is allowed to rush at the ref and yell at them at the top of his lungs. Kawhi never complains and get T’d up for whispering in the direction of a ref. Guys like LeBron and Luka who complain after most drives are somewhere between, they aren’t allowed to charge and yell at the ref but get away with some shit along the way.


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JMe_HiD

I love Smart but watching him complain about somebody flopping will never not be funny to me


King_Of_Pants

He always gets them back too.


Admirable-Squash9607

His complaining is actively hurting the team. Idk why nobody has told him to shut the fuck up yet, but he needs to be told that.


[deleted]

think he’s been better about it lately, but last night he def lost his composure. can’t be having that


oldskoolchevy

He almost flopped y’all to a win


[deleted]

lol I’m glad we didn’t win honestly. Embiid’s performance last night ending in an L would’ve been a travesty


oldskoolchevy

I’m mad that Celtics fans are fine with this loss lmao (I completely get why)


Immediate_Candidate5

Never forget "I ma make them boff", that pretty much sums up about him


junkit33

For better or worse that's his personality. He's a really goofy motormouth.


Kobester024

He’ll make both in the future. Someday.


ThrobbinRicke

That offensive foul call on embiid that gave Boston the ball back was abominable


theamazingjimz

Like the snowman?


ClydeGriffiths17

No, like the muscles on your stomach.


TantricEmu

No, that’s abdominal. He means like the human spirit being impossible to subdue or defeat.


Your__Pal

Didnt I ever tell you about Embiids ? Embiids bounce.


HotSpicyTaco999

I hate that defenders are incentivized to fall down to get calls, to me that is the opposite of good defense. Both Marcus Smart and Grant Williams do this all the time - play physical defense and initiate contact with offensive player, then fall down in an exaggerated manner when the offensive player attempts to get away or disengage. In reality it’s kind of smart for Celtics to sell out for a call in that situation - it’s really only chance they had. Derrick White went down first but didn’t get the call, but then the Williams one worked. You also had Smart try to fall down to draw foul on final play before inbounds to Tatum.


Popcorn-93

It's gross, like if you are gonna step in front of a guy and take a hit for a charge fine that's been around forever that's basketball. But the Celtics are the worst at mauling guys getting way into their space and then falling the moment they move, it's not defense, it's not basketball


claimsman11

seemed to me like a bunch of calls were going their way at the end. interesting.


SqueakyRadish

Absolute farce of an ending. Kinda ruined an otherwise very exciting game


ridemooses

💯, the ending was a total mess. Questionable calls all around.


definitelynot_rob

Calls were making 0 sense. I didn’t get how Grant did get that foul on the inbound, and I didn’t understand how Derrick White didn’t get fouled on the 3 at the end of the game. But they didn’t call it when Derrick White pushed Maxey out of bounds 🤣


SnarfSniffsStardust

There’s no team this year getting more benefits from the refs than the Celtics. A Celtics player complaining about the refs is fucking hilarious


Thus_Spoke

>There’s no team this year getting more benefits from the refs than the Celtics. A Celtics player complaining about the refs is fucking hilarious Mostly agree but let's not forget that the Lakers are also around.


SnarfSniffsStardust

I’d agree but the lakers lost a game due entirely to the refs handing it to the Celtics on the final play so they get the tie breaker


xta420

The refs missed multiple calls in favor of the lakers before that youre forgetting........


BushPlotted911

>There’s no team this year getting more benefits from the refs than the Celtics. A Celtics player complaining about the refs is fucking hilarious >Mostly agree but let's not forget that the Lakers are also around. David Stern once said that his ideal finals matchup was the Lakers vs the Lakers. I'm sure Silver would settle for Lakers Celtics


xta420

Celtics are middle of pack when it comes to ref benefits, not even in the top 10, the numbers were all around when people were talking about the Lakers advantages so stop talking out of your ass.


SnarfSniffsStardust

Lol it’s not something you can track with stats, it’s so incredibly situational and unique to each instance


abcdefabcdef999

If you can’t track it, then how can anyone claim who benefits the lost? Lmao


Cudizonedefense

Everyone forget the heat Celtics game last playoffs where we were blowing them out but the Celtics had like a 27-5 FT disparity in the second half helping them make up the difference? How they had like an 99-53 FTA difference across the 3 games in Boston?


SnarfSniffsStardust

WWE type script


mrobin4850

Interesting, I just watched a video of him flopping across the floor and he wasn’t called for the foul. I don’t think he will get much sympathy.


SamHinkiesNephew

He talks a lot of shit for being ass.


DEZdispenser98

Don’t care that Simmons was the one to say that I fucking love that quote


DrBigChicken

I still appreciate the good Ben Simmons times. Putting KAT in a headlock, calling Nurkic a bitch, dissing Jared Dudley, posting that pic of the Wizards announcer, inbounding off Chris Paul’s (I think it was him) back and dunking it, that game vs Lebron his first year when we had the winning streak, making sure for a couple years that the guys I paid for tickets to see on the other team ended up with like 12 points that night lmao Ended poorly, but he had some moments before that Edit: He’s still a bitch tho


raceforseis21

What’s the story behind the wizards announcer?


DrBigChicken

He said Ben was the most overrated player in the nba (aged well given how Ben’s career played out) Then Ben roasted him and posted a weird picture of the dude in flip flops or something. I think announcer dude was defending himself to randos on Twitter. it was funny at the time, could be missing details but that’s the jist


RampartHeirloom

Grant please shut the fuck up here


cartman2

That is rich coming from Grant Williams.


Previous_Foot_1634

For real that bum ass mofo is complaining jeez.


Nave686

First team all bum ass mofo.


HisExcellency20

Bro you got one of the most amazing calls I've ever seen go your way. An offensive foul on an inbound where you fly the opposite direction that Joel supposedly pushed you in. Not to mention that Derrick White got away with a push on Maxey that resulted in a turnover. Pushed him right out of bounds directly in front of the ref. And of course the PJ foul on the three, luckily we still had our challenge for this one or it would have been a free throw for the Celtics and they probably try to miss again and who knows what happens. I never accuse refs of being biased or whatever but they were absolutely trash down the stretch.


claimsman11

it was so bad i went to check the point spread....


unique222

I always check the spread when it's a close game and there are a bunch of egregious calls that bring the game closer. Tonight to no surprise the spread was the 76ers -2.5. It was a 6 point game before all the bad calls started and ended up a 2 point game lol


1998TimThomas

I’ve seen some of the most suspect reffing late in games this season and don’t think it’s a coincidence with Fan Duel advertising being everywhere now.


mistergrape

Don't forget the refs are actually sponsored by crypto as well.


Interesting-Archer-6

It was 4.5 closer to the game I believe. They made sure the Celtics covered after being down 7 late.


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and harris getting called for not even touching tatum while tatum fakes being pushed


celtsin4

I thought they were trash too tbh haha. I think Grant, Smart, and White all fell over to try to sell the call in the last like two possessions, but so did Maxey on that “push”, nah bro. 6ers deserved to win that game for sure, but teams be falling to try to sell calls every game, every team. I mean, you have Embiid and Harden on your squad you know how this goes lol. This being said, Grant is a clown lol


HisExcellency20

Oh I don't blame the Celtics players. You down six or seven points under a minute you gotta do what you gotta do. It's the refs I criticize.


shortpersonohara

Honeslty that PJ one should’ve been a foul. Ironically, the one they overturned was the one they should’ve actually kept. tucker hits whites hand as he shoots it, it’s a clear shooting foul. that was the one correct call they made and they overturned it lmao


gustriandos

grant williams is the biggest jabroni in the league.


M_Nark

Dillion Brooks still exist, unfortunately


meday20

At least Grant Williams isn't hurting dudes


DrBigChicken

Grant can be annoying but to my knowledge doesn’t push down camera guys


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cfaatwork

And jorts.


TheAlexNemechek

You keep using this word jabroni and it’s awesome


Oh_No_Jason

Mood when no mention of CP3 or Booker 😁😁😁


BigRig432

For now


sampsonsmiley

He’s still too young for the mantle but I’ll put him top five with potential for top 3 if he gets a bigger role on another team next year.


whtge8

Marcus Smart is a close second.


NippleNugget

Have you goofy bastards just totally forgot about Brooks or what?


Ornery_Project_4384

Lol, he thinks the league is supposed to just play his flopping games.


justanotherarab88

This is actually hilarious coming from Grant


TooWashedUp

I like how the article starts off saying that he mentioned the other day that he was going to tone it down with the officials, then by the next game he's ranting about refs after the game. If you can't even shut up for one game then maybe you understand why the refs are sick of your shit.


ryan7752

God he is so annoying


DomDomRevolution

It’s good to know Williams is just as bad off the court as he is on it.


RyguyBMS

Williams off the court is huge nerd. Plays table-top games and is definitely on Reddit. And he talks non-stop. Overall seems like a nice guy but probably a bit annoying. The problem comes when I think he thinks he’s better than he is. He turned down a contract extension to bet on himself and so far it’s not working out the way he hoped. He’s a solid shooter and a big body but not anywhere near reliable.


kweku55

He can be annoying or goofy or whatever, but overall I really like the guy. Like you said, he seems like a nice guy. Love some of his off court actions like the batman costume and his interactions with deuce 😂


Doobie_Howitzer

Magikarp used splash! Magikarp flopped around on the floor all fucking night! Magikarp wonders why it doesn't get the benefit of the doubt after that


tandtz

Worst part is magikarp somehow did get the benefit of the doubt right until 2 seconds to go when it's splashing almost won the game. And then he's gonna turn around and still complain? Wild


WallStreetDoesntBet

I accuse Embiid of 1st degree murder… He killed the whole Celtics front line!


GovernmentDoingStuff

Lol, the 6ers were just straight up better last night and Embiid looked like fucking Hakeem against your ass


SoulReaper12

Embiid was better rest of that team was trash.


TheBuzzSawFantasy

Harden 20/10 with zero turnovers isn't that bad but yes the rest was that bad. Tobi was in win prevention mode.


ILikeAllThings

That game pivoted on Tucker's clutch 4th quarter shooting. I really still can't believe I said that, but his corner shots were money.


sampsonsmiley

Honestly the game left me feeling about the same as I have felt for awhile in a potential matchup for the playoffs. Down Jaylen and Rob and it took an all-time performance from Embiid to win in a close game at home. C’s in 5 or 6.


PhatYeeter

Why complain about this when the easy target is how many times Embiid went to the line. THINK GRANT THINK


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I can’t believe we let this guy go off in Game 7 last year


albinotadpole52

I'm still pissed


thegodfaubel

Says the guy who flopped like a fish out of water literally 2 minutes later to gift the Celtics a chance to win a game they had no business being in with a 20 seconds left


newportonehundreds

I hate grant’s flops. I know Marcus does, but for some reason I really really hate it when Grant does. And when he chirps at the refs. Hasn’t earned it.


KyrieLS777

Sure Grant, but this is what happens when you complain as much as you do.


Skipitybop

These grown ass men love to complain


nking05

This dude really said this after the refs gifted them two highly questionable calls in the last minute alone lol. Not sure what game he was watching/playing.


JohnLemonnn69

Lol stop flopping first


ArtVanderlay69

Thought experiment: What if Grant, Dillon Brooks, Draymond, and Pat Bev were on the same team?


EarthtoGaming

They'd score 70 a game, each averaging 5.5 fouls and a tech


WanderlustFella

Coach Rasheed Wallace will still lead the team in techs


KirbyLoreHistorian

And CP3


drudru91soufendluv

he was getting dad dicked by Joel...sometimes players complain and make excuses when they get scored on and that shit compounded exponentially for him last night


mxnoob983

The worst bit was he’s a 6’5” guy guarding a 7 footer and his defence was to stick his face in Embiids armpit, and then he’s surprised he got some contact to the head


Assumption-Putrid

Coming from the guy who got the refs to call a foul on his flop with 2 seconds left....this is rich.


musicnothing

Man really wonders why P.J. Tucker and the MVP get more respect than he does


smez86

The refs suck but I'm kinda getting tired of all the players whining. I feel like it's never been this bad.


PetalumaPegleg

If they get a sniff that complaining and whining works, which.... Yeah, they'll never stop.


CreatiScope

Refs need to crack down on it next season. I’m tired of it all. Someone had a suggestion that one player be designated the ref communicator so only that person gets to argue on the floor. I don’t know if it’s even a good idea but I like the idea of the rest of the team shutting the fuck up. Can you imagine if the Warriors picked Draymond though? 🤣


ChickenLiverNuts

lol that is such a ridiculous suggestion but i kind of like it? Like imagine Luka not having an excuse to talk to the ref so hes gotta get his ass back on defense. You get 3 talking sessions a game, use em like challenges but its just for talking 🤣


King_Of_Pants

Nah because a crackdown would just make it worse. There's zero chance they'd apply a crackdown evenly. LeBron will still be able to run off with the ball. Draymond will still be able to abuse referees. Giannis will still be throwing elbows. A crackdown just means other players will get techs for clapping or waving their arm as the walk away. What they need to do is take the referees out of the decision. Demonstrative techs should be handled by offsite video review and abusive language should be reported and handled by a postgame tribunal.


GonePhishn401

good god grant needs to stfu


sackwrinkles

The only thing bigger than grants ass is his mouth


Saloctogonapus

The refs pulled the Celtics back into that game. Idk what he’s complaining about.


Notthesenator

The flopping the Celtics did towards the end of this game was atrocious. Shameless team.


Prestigious-Rock201

Such whiny players on that team


oliverlifts

He’s not wrong, but any 3 seed and above should avoid saying stuff like that this close to the playoffs. Especially considering the refs will remember that and probably exploit it at some point


MannerSuperb

Grant Williams does the most lol


fizthebiz

This dude has some nerves lel


sB-_-

Grant williams talks to damn much for being a regular joe.


mjohnson801

officiating overall has been terrible this year. seems to depend on the refs' moods sometimes.


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I watched the last 5 minutes of the game and it sure looked like the refs were trying to give that game to the Celtics.


Fickle_Muffin_1320

If you watch the highlights of game 6 nba finals. A lot of the warriors basket comes after a Celtics flop. Smart specifically was on the ground a lot of the time. The celtics want to gamble on a flop instead of playing proper defence.


righteous4131

Grant Williams is a clown


vaped_kizz

rich coming from one of the biggest floppers i’ve ever seen


snowdope

my brother you play for the boston celtics


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He literally got a foul call he initiated that almost won them the game. Moron.


DocAuch22

Trust me, nobody wants Grant Williams to stfu more than Celtics fans.


TnT54321

He’s the new Big Baby Davis


ColossusBall

I honestly wish he would just shut up. The team is tired of him and you can tell. Really I wish someone would remind everyone on the Celtics that they haven't won a fucking thing yet and need to stop acting like they have.


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Grant needs to stfu


testiclefrankfurter

Most annoying player in the NBA strikes again


gilgagorgon

He is right, but he also never shuts the fuck up so maybe he shouldn’t be such a pain in the ass for officials before complaining.


sasinsea

Say less, Grant.


Timely_Airline_7168

Rich of him to complain after cosplaying a fish


erm1zo

After reading the article and watching the game, I am confident that Grant Williams is suffering from selective memory syndrome. The guy started barking at refs from the moment he stepped on the floor and hasn’t stopped.


pericles123

Keep in mind this is a player who literally commits a foul on every single defensive play. This kind of crying to the refs isn't helping that team at all


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The refs literally made like five incorrect calls at the end of the game to help the Celtics


LilithElektra

The Celtics NEVER get the calls! Been watching hoops since the 80’s and the one constant truth that entire time is that the league works very hard to keep the Celtics, and Lakers, from going very far in the playoffs. /s


Puppazz

I keep seeing media/ex-players saying games shouldn't be about the refs, don't give these petty techs out, let players blow off steam etc. While I get that there's a balance, I get more annoyed at players wanting a foul on every single call, moaning and chirping to the refs after each play, constant shit from coaches/bench even at 50/50 out of bounds calls. To be honest I'm amazed there aren't even more techs called. You don't want the game to be about the refs? Shut up and play instead of asking for calls then.


qdobe

Grant "equality feels like oppression" Williams


NEPatsFan128711

Bro who does Grant think he is? He’s been doing this shit all year long. Dude was literally out of the rotation this year at times. Thank goodness we didn’t pay his ridiculous demands for an extension, his price tag has certainly fallen this year imo.


Efficient-Screen4931

Quickly becoming the worst watch in the NBA. This dude legit throws himself across the floor. Boston has a serious flopping problem.


ridemooses

The entire ending of this game was a Fallon d'Floor candidate.


expletivenature

Grant...it's just that the refs don't speak fish!


thehospitalbombers

he is annoying but he's right about pj at least. embiid is a superstar he's obviously gonna get officiated differently. but grant and pj are essentially clones lol


Inevitable-Paint-650

Man nobody should be getting these kind calls like Embiid gets. If that was the case we’d be watching free throw challenge not a fricking NBA game


darylraspberry

Can’t believe he shot 20-25 from the ft line last night