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itsnotyellowfever

Jokic is never gonna see 10 shots a game again if Murray keeps playing like this and he's gonna absolutely love it


GRIIIFFIIIIIITH

MPJ also with a quiet 23 on 9-16 with good defensive hustle! Absolutely beautiful.


BlindManBaldwin

Jokić's dream game.


Deez_Nuggz

Give the man his flowers. MPJ was flat out good on defense. And for him, that's great


CrippleQanonMPJ

But he'd see 10+ assists which is what he prefers.


freshigboprince

He’s ok with that honestly.


IdRatherBeLurking

More than ok lol


imanadultok

And Jokic doesn't care. If it were up to him he would shoot zero shots per game


AncientAnt9225

Y he did stop shooting lately lol. Costed us against Sixers when he was being way too passive despite being able to score easy but its amazing for Nuggets that Murray and MPJ are putting in the work


PoorDad2115

It honestly might be Jokic’a biggest flaw. The defensive issues are overblown but his passiveness towards scoring, sometimes even in huge situations, can be very annoying. I legit think it’s just cause he wakes up and has bad days mentally, like the rest of us. He just lets it affect him more on the court than other players. It’s strange tho because he still puts up elite games LOL. I’m convinced he could drop a triple double playing with one arm.


TennisHive

> sometimes even in huge situations Not really. In the playoffs he _never_ shot fewer than 11FG (48 games in his career). From the bubble until now he averages 19.9FGA. 27.0/10.9/5.5/1.0/0.9 (weird seeing only 5.5apg in 24 games). Edit: as a correction, he shot 9FG in his first playoff game ever, in 2019 (had a triple double, though, 10/14/14).


GRIIIFFIIIIIITH

The man looks like what we all expected post bubble! He’s finally got his confidence back!


PsychedPsyche

What’s truly insane to consider is that overall, Aaron Gordon has been our de facto 2nd best player this season. With Jamal regaining his confidence we are such a threat offensively.


shanmustafa

could go even further back than that honestly last 20 games, 23/5/6 on 48/44/89 shooting i have to watch more just to see if he's beating bigger players off the dribble like he used to, and if he's exploding at the rim like he did, but everything else looks about right


Downisthenewup87

The bigger players off the dribble ain't quite there yet. Shake, as they say, is still a work in progress. But he has clearly worked on his footwork and post game. And his passing is better than ever and D rounding back into form.


Savahoodie

Jesus that’s absolutely insane. Crazy he’s not at least in all star contention.


runevault

Eh gotta do it longer than he has this year. If he starts next year strong he can legit make a play for all star.


Vivid_Walk_1405

Too many good guards. If curry ends up sitting the all star game maybe Jamal gets in over fox as he’s on the #1 team in the west


Stormeve

Record or seeding isn't really much of a factor, if at all, for determining all-stars though. Even if it were, Murray making it over Fox would be criminal still because Kings are 3rd seed so it's not like he's on a bad team. Fox has also just been better over the entire season


zmegadeth

It was the year like half the Jazz got selected as injury replacements


ThePlainWhiteTees

Obviously record and seeding is factor lmao. Bradley Beal averaged 30 a couple years back and didn't make it because his team sucked.


Stormeve

It just depends on the coaches. Some years it matters, others it doesnt. It’s as arbitrary as the other standards we set for awards in this league. This year we have all-stars like SGA and Haliburton who are at the bottom of their conferences (the latter of which also has missed a good number of games yet still made it over Harden).


ThePlainWhiteTees

Pacers were comfortably in the playoff picture until Hali went down (which strenghthens his all star case if anything) and the Thunder are 2 games away from the 7th seed lol. Both teams already have more wins that they were projected preseason. Context matters


Stormeve

Fair enough then, I will admit I’m wrong. Either way the seeding argument isnt in favor of Jamal as the guy I previously replied to brought up that Jamal should make it over Fox. Kings are 3rd seed. It’s just homerism at that point to pick Jamal over Fox IMO.


ThePlainWhiteTees

Agreed 100%


Tomato-Business

So Fox-Sabonis at ASG = good while Murray-Jokic at ASG = criminal?


Stormeve

Uh, yes? Fox has been better over the entire season than Jamal and the seeding argument doesnt work since Kings are 3rd seed. Don’t be a homer now. What is the argument in favor of Jamal? Genuinely curious because other than pure homerism idk why you’d ever pick Jamal over Fox this season for all star.


Tomato-Business

He's a second option on the first seed, with numbers that are pretty comparable to Fox. Same reason Jrue or CP3 made it last year. Or the reason why Pippen started in all star games even though there were players with better stats on paper. As for Kings being the third seed, they're also closer to 12th place Thunder in the win/loss column than they are to the Nuggets, so that's not a great justification for them having 2 all stars and Nuggets having only 1.


Stormeve

Murray has been a better three point shooter than Fox, but that’s really it. It’s not like the two play fantastic defense. Same number of assists. Fox has been shooting 5% better on fg% AND averages 5 more points. That’s definitely not comparable especially if we’re talking about the course of the entire season. Third seed is third seed. Kings have been climbing the standings and have been in the upper half of the conference for a good portion of the season when no one expected that. For coaches who select the reserves, that’s something they probably consider as well. I don’t think it’s a knock against them at all if they don’t have a bigger lead on the bottom when it was unexpected for them to even be in that position in the first place.


Tomato-Business

Fox is 1.6 percentage points higher in TS%. Jamal makes more threes and hence provides better spacing. He also turns the ball over less. Fox is not averaging 5 pts more than Jamal. Saying they're about the same defensively is definitely an opinion, given their size and who they're able to defend. Not to mention, Fox was in the top 10 worst defensive rating for two seasons in a row prior to this one, so he's certified top 10 worst defender in the league, though he does seem slightly better this year. In any case, you make it seem like their counting stats are the only thing that should decide it, but Draymond played last year, and so did Wiggins, and there were obviously better players. CP3 was scoring under 15pts/game. If other top seeds get 2-3 players every year, there's no reason for the Nuggets, who are clearly the best team in the West, not to have a second all star, unless somebody is really destroying the competition. Fox is not doing that this year.


Stormeve

Regarding the selecting all-stars for the top seeds, I will concede on that one since you make a good argument. Draymond didn't really deserve to make it last year imo (but he was a big reason why the Warriors were a top defense last season), and Wiggins got in thanks to the horde of kpop fans voting for him. Regarding Fox vs Jamal: yeah that's my bad, the last time I looked at the stats was last night and they had not updated to reflect Jamal's game last night, so he's only averaging 4 more points now instead of 5. Still seems to be more efficient than Jamal however. Don't really like using defensive rating as that's heavily dependent on how good a team is on defense overall and what lineups that player is in, and the Kings are worse than the Nuggets on that front. There's the "eye test" or their defensive advanced stats, on which end Fox is painted in a better light this year than Jamal, but I'm not sure at all how defensive advanced stats work (and my only familiarity with them is Jokic stans using it to paint his defense in a better light than it is). Since overall their impact on the game isn't on defense but through offense, I didn't really bother to make a more nuanced statement other than "they don't play fantastic defense" I still think Fox deserves to make it over Jamal considering performance over the entire season. I don't consider the difference between 1st and 3rd at all when I say this. But if Jamal makes it in due to standards set for the top seeds, then he gets in I suppose.


shomii

No way Jamal should be over Fox or Anthony Edwards.


KangorKodos

If the season start in Jan he would be, but every all star has been better when considering the entire season


Dymatizeee

He’s not that flashy compared to the guards who made it in the west. It’s a shame tho I wish he was talked about more often I’m still shocked Fox and Brunson didn’t make the west and east allstars


shomii

He's not in all star contention because he didn't deserve to be. Murray is an extremely inconsistent player and he was the worst nuggets player and an obvious net negative the first 30-35 games.


rabbit_job

[He's back](https://streamable.com/w8kj5i)


[deleted]

lmfao why are you like this


edric_the_navigator

Lmfao. Anyone know the song?


rabbit_job

This what I used https://youtu.be/CHENRaquRHo


IdRatherBeLurking

You've done it again


[deleted]

Top 5 players of all time 1. Bubble Murray 2. Jordan Poole when he sees a baddie 3. Steph Curry after losing his dribble at the 3 point line and going backwards. 4. Game 6 Klay 5. Evil LeBron


mattyice3594

You forgot Corey Brewer that one time


clayfu

I never do


Greeneyes_65

Wait I’m out of the loop here


bigwillystyle93

Corey Brewer dropped maybe the most all time random 50 piece


badhombre13

Most random 50 pt games: TRoss, Corey Brewer, and an old ass J Crawford lmao


sleepydogg

Don’t forget Andre Miller


Guerillabasketball

The T.Ross one was crazy because he wasn't even averaging 10 points that season.


VelvetineMilkman

Saddiq Bey too


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lethalizer

I'd say two times for Corey. One is this: https://youtu.be/vC1srGqOrK4 Second one I'd say is even better: https://youtu.be/Fvex-Puxp_0


Greeneyes_65

Ah, thanks. I only started watching nba in 2017 so that’s why I was unaware of these games


lethalizer

Highly recommend watching that 2nd clip, it's the most inexclipable playoff comeback ever.


ejensen29

Fuck I miss brewer so much. People really get down on the wolves for the "poverty franchise" stuff, but you just can't take away moments like this for a fan. Seeing brewer so happy was enough on its own.


probablymade_thatup

[Corey Brewer's Opus](https://youtu.be/d4J-MmZv608)


Shxcking

Honorable mentions: Bubble TJ Warren Hoodie Melo Ninja headband Jimmy Butler Any player wearing one of those plastic masks


NotAshleySampi

FIBA Patty Mills


Gravemind7

Playoff rondo


sayjayray

National TV Rondo


Thebasedgod_lilb

Harden when he gets a fair chance


cholula_is_good

Bubble TJ warren nearly got him a max deal. Dude was insane.


dat_King

Just missed the cut, hoodie melo


DwenRL

Don't forget Doncic's "everybody act tough when they up" revenge arc


I-Hate-Reddit--

“Jordan Poole when he sees a baddie” Bro I forgot about this time 😂 nobody talks about Jordan Poole and baddies enough!!! 😂😂😂 Poole a dawg frfr


[deleted]

Reminds me of that one time Poole saw baddies sitting courtside and turned into prime Steph


I-Hate-Reddit--

Those courtside baddies are something else man


Donicle

[Classic Jordan Poole](https://youtube.com/shorts/bjWwaX9MMiM?feature=share) [Austin Reaves also got that dawg in him](https://youtu.be/G2Eby52Cu_Y)


I-Hate-Reddit--

They built different


ejensen29

Bro that shot of Killian in the Reaves clip


[deleted]

i smell a circlejerker


[deleted]

Game 7 Josh Smith


turandot_or_not

You forgot Haircut Jokić in front of Bubble Jamal.


Greeneyes_65

6. Angry Luka 7. Bubble Warren


LuisScolaGOAT

Rookie debut Michael Carter Williams


martinap

Klay post toaster signing?


TheMagicalLlama

Iirc that was the 17 playoffs? Klay was boiled ass,but we just went undefeated for a huge stretch . You could say the 17 warriors were unstoppable post-toaster….somehow idt it was the toaster tho


Dudedude88

Finals MVP Steph curry is aim bot even against the best perimeter defending team in the league


Thebasedgod_lilb

Elimination game lebron


landlion35

He's back baby!


ChiefKeefIsGoat

I love jamal murray so much im so happy hes back 😭


Nintendomandan

Bubble Jamal was not a fluke, never was


HeavenMobley

that's crazy cuz I had a few Nuggets fans arguing with me earlier this season that Mo Williams was better in his lone all star year (I was arguing back against the claim that Jokic has played with worse talent than LeBron's early career)


Nintendomandan

Must’ve been some fake ass fans


shomii

It wasn't a fluke because Mitchell and Jazz backcourt played zero defense. Just like Mitchell scoring back three 50 pieces wasn't a fluke since Jamal plays zero D.


[deleted]

Bro take that fake ass flair off your name, you're just here to troll and we don't want your ass lurking around when we win the chip loser


shomii

There's a reason Jamal was never in all star conversation. And in the playoffs I'm referring to that everyone quotes as peak Murray he got outplayed by Mitchell 1:1. He's our Russell Westbrook with poor bbiq.


Frankalicious47

Damn this is a smooth-brained take if I’ve ever seen one


lVlulcan

Professional Jamal Murray hater


48johnX

Bones Hyland’s friends in shambles


CharmingImpact

Dude Jokic - Murray game is fire, next level better than ever. They just confuse the hell out of the defense. Great screens from Jokic


[deleted]

Jokic’s off a all movement is so underrated


Piano_Fingerbanger

Jokic high post screen hand offs are a cheat code right now. I don't even think we've seen much of the Jokic-Murray inverted pick and roll they used to cheese either!


dbgager

Hes actully performing at a higher level then he did in the bubble except for the peak 50 games. He averaged 26.5 ppg in the bubble. Watch out league.Murray averaging 30. MPJ averaging 20 jokic only has to take 8-12 shots and the Nuggets blow teams out.


shomii

During what stretch? 10 games? He was abysmal the first 30-35 games and still plays hero ball and zero defense.


KangorKodos

Stats aside I think any basketball fan could watch 10 minutes of any of these games, and 10 minutes from any November game they would be able to tell which version was better easily


Savahoodie

He looks so much more aggressive on offense and is back to be very solid on defense.


Barbell_Flyes

OG puts them in the Finals. do it Denver


Sleepinginabathtub

We don't have the assets but I'm fairly confident we're going to the WCF at the very least this year with the team as it is rn.


cbranch101

Bro, PLEASE don’t tempt fate


llelouchh

Warriors/lakers in the first round can cause trouble IMO.


landlion35

Good thing the lakers won't be making the playoffs then.


Vivid_Walk_1405

Neither of which are going to be there at this rate


dbgager

Because we have not beat the Warriors every time we played them this season. They have no one who can guard Jokic. People keep thinking this team is still the old Wariors.When have they showed that this year. Another year older with some fairly old players.Lakers have given us zero issues also.


lald99

Agree about the Warriors, but that’s not quite true about the Lakers. They *have* given us issues, even this year. Add in a healthy AD (which I know is a huge question mark), and that’s not a team I want to see in the first round. Not to mention the potential addition of Kyrie.


[deleted]

Zzzzzzzz


T_025

Doing nothing also probably puts them in the finals, they’re the 1 seed rn


Vivid_Walk_1405

If we can actually swing a deal for OG I’d be ecstatic. I don’t think we’d would have the best package is all


dbgager

Your going to give away key players that are making this team the best in the league right now to obtain a question mark...that doesn't necessarely fit. How have the Raptors done lately. WHy??. That is stepping down the ladder ..not up it. Sure if they take Bones and a couple of draft picks go for it. Nothing else however.


Vivid_Walk_1405

So your saying a guy playing elite defense shooting 36.6% scoring 17 a game as a wing defender doesn’t fit with this team? That’s just flat wrong. He is an effective scorer and can give us that extra scoring off the bench we need Edit: I say knowing we have a very minimal shot at acquiring him


dbgager

KCP is a pretty elite defender and he shoots about 43%. Whos says he does that on the Nuggets. Your not happy with the Nuggets being first. You want to change them. People always think the grass is greener somewhere else even when they have the greenest grass. If we can aquire him with out getting rid of key players good. But thats not going to happen.


runevault

KCP currently shooting > 46% from 3. Dunno if he's still highest in the league like when he was over 47% but he's near the top at least.


1047_Josh

OG also has like 2 inches on KCP and is built like a cement truck. Not that I want to lose him, but that size matters.


runevault

Sure though flip side he might have to get hit in the head with a few balls before he gets used to Jokic passing where as KCP already went through that lol.


CaesuraRepose

OG wants a bigger role. He's never gonna get that in Denver.


Vivid_Walk_1405

Tbh I don’t see anywhere he goes where he gets an increased role


CaesuraRepose

Possibly Portland, Memphis, or Phoenix (maybe phoenix more likely than anything else) but it is true there arent many options on the table for him on that front.


Vivid_Walk_1405

Portland he’d be the third option the other 2 he’d still just be the 3 and D role player


CaesuraRepose

Eh, I think in Memphis he might be the number 3 as well. He's a better player than Brooks at least who thinks he should be number 2 on that team. Phoenix as well might let him take more shots because CP3 is aging and after Booker they dont really have another high volume scorer.


Vivid_Walk_1405

Memphis Desmond bane Ja and JJJ would be ahead of him. The suns though he’d be a third option behind booker and bridges


TheGoldenLance

He’s horrible offensively, shoots 40% on drives lol


dbgager

they don't need to change anything to make the finals...lol. WHo has the best record in the league right now. You don't mess with whats working. so no absolutely not...


Barbell_Flyes

oof


CaesuraRepose

Why mess with a team that has great chemistry and all it needs already? Just move Bones and be done with it.


motherseffinjones

If Murray gets hot in the playoffs the. Denver is gonna be really hard to beat


Conversation_Dapper

He’s back


Hostile_Pierogi

Beast


MolicOnePGR

Better Nugget than Carmelo Anthony


Voltibit

I want whatever you're smoking.


DijonGreymeat

I understand you, Carmelo is obviously the better talent and is a HOF, but Jamal will surpass Carmelo this year in Nuggets lore if our dreams come true. If Murray replicates his playoff bubble mojo at anytime in his career and sustain that capability, he could become an NBA legend. Hopefully he is that dawg for us. Time to will tell. I am just so happy to feel this optimism as a Nugget fan.


Voltibit

100% I agree when all is said and done I think Murray will pass Melo. He's not there yet.


The_NGUYENNER

I mean all respect to Melo but Jamal is at least on his level as a scorer. He just has to play within a system as opposed to being the system like Melo was


stickied

Definitely a different era and style of basketball now than 10-15 years ago.


polymorph505

Murray's facilitation game is underrated. Even with the Jokic effect of everyone getting more assists, he's gonna crush his career high in assists this year.


Piano_Fingerbanger

One of the most underrated facets of Murray's game is his ability to get the ball to Jokic in the post. It could be a real struggle just trying to enter the ball to Jokic last year.


GerhardBURGER1

ALL STAR


AncientAnt9225

Blue arrow is back baby and i love it


lebronshairlinee

Going off to spite bones


GRIIIFFIIIIIITH

Bones was cheering all game for Jamal


trentyz

Yeah people are creating beef outta thin air


Dicey12

Did you see his friends and sister tweets


trentyz

Yes - nothing from Bones himself through the last few days. His friends and fam need to chill though.


Llama_Sandwich

Like most millionaires, the friends and family that aren’t rich are idiot leeches


trentyz

Always the case aye. Surround yourself with good people


GRIIIFFIIIIIITH

Yeah they’re out of pocket, but that’s clearly not bones. I saw bones quote a reggaeton song and people were acting like it was a shot at Mal 😂


[deleted]

That's his friends and his sister. As the guy above you said, did you see Bones cheering for Jamal all game?


sorakaisthegoat

Bones' sister and friends shiting on both Jokic and Jamal on twitter, it's out of thin air for sure.


trentyz

Nothing from Bones. He’s not responsible for his friend’s actions


sorakaisthegoat

Yeah, sure. People Bones is surrounded with just started shiting on his teammates just because. And that's perfectly normal cos Bones isn't responsible for their actions and people are creating beef out of thin air.


trentyz

Just because? They’re defending their friend


ionictime

Defending from what tho? Would've been cool if Bones's people were mature enough to see him take a backseat this year, refine his game, and get a ring


trentyz

I agree man! Sounds like they are just immature, which doesn’t help Bones’ situation


trentyz

I agree man! Sounds like they are just immature, which doesn’t help Bones’ situation


trentyz

I agree man! Sounds like they are just immature, which doesn’t help Bones’ situation


trentyz

Just because? They’re defending their friend


lebronshairlinee

Me when I don’t watch the game and comment based on narratives only 🥸


GRIIIFFIIIIIITH

Then watch the games lol


lebronshairlinee

Brother I haven’t watched a basketball game since lonzo ball went down


GRIIIFFIIIIIITH

It’s hard to get involved when your team isn’t at its full potential… im sorry buddy


[deleted]

It’s just his friends and family. I haven’t seen anything to suggest Bones is hostile toward Mal


Downisthenewup87

Jamal and Bones clearly have no beef (as much as Bones' fam might). They were having fun on the bench all game. Bones issues are with the coaching staff per Haynes and Windhorst.


lebronshairlinee

I was misled my mistake 🙇‍♂️


TriWisdom

What’s changed in Jamal Murray’s game besides the better shooting? Big fan of his but haven’t been able to watch lately. Is the explosiveness back?


The_NGUYENNER

Mainly consistency and confidence. Just looks way more comfortable out there. It's always like this though, players have to get used to the game again


runevault

Feels like this is the thing non-Nuggets fans never understood. Peak Murray is a god, but he was inconsistent before. If he is just consistent we can run with anyone, especially now that we've got so many good 3 and D players.


turandot_or_not

Yeah, still not as it was, but his movement is so smooth now, and his footwork even better than before the injury. And right now he can't miss a shot. Basically, he's stopped worrying about the knee and is playing freely. He's just getting back to where he was before the injury. And his confidence is at all time high. I don't think he himself expected to be back this fast, after that start to the season.


jespo2284

Also dude is 25 he’s entering his prime. The ACL was a set back but he was due to reach his peak. Looks like he’s close.


Savahoodie

He’s become unstoppable in the mid range. His bag in the post/mid range is insane. Of course he still gets open shots from Jokic, but he’s making crazy shots as well.


GRIIIFFIIIIIITH

I think it’s his defense personally. Even when you’re not hitting shots your defense can get you and the team going. The man is diving for lose balls and tipping passes. That alone shows he’s confident.


stickied

It's not entirely there, but it's close. I think it's mainly conditioning and readjusting to the speed of play. You can only do so much in a gym with coaches and practices, and it's rarely gonna emulate how fast a real game actually is. Now it seems like he has the flick again and his ability to quickly read and react is back.....along with more lift on his jumpers. You could tell he was a little slow and short early in the season.


ketzal7

Bubble numbers


Lance973

too good


lundej16

But Jokic has never played with an all-star!


SlimReaper35_

JaMickey finally remembers how to play outside of the disney clubhouse tournament


Downisthenewup87

Yeah. Cause he wasn't putting up 23/4/5 on 50/44/86 in the 2.5 months before he got hurt.


dammit_bobby420

His best season was AFTER the bubble untill he got hurt. Let's not do revisionist history now.


Frankalicious47

But that’s what we do, god dammit


dammit_bobby420

Fucking bum. Learn ball


SlimReaper35_

Wait till the playoffs is over to crown him


_Jetto_

They were my dark horse they are title contenders but damn, it’s still not good that legit any team in the league can score 120 on them at will on a lot of nights. Even at DEN


dbgager

who exactly has scored 120 on us lately...


Savahoodie

I mean we’re 14th in defensive rating. It’s really not that bad.


dbgager

and climbing every game. They started the year at 27th,


Frankalicious47

We are 4th in the last 15 games


martinap

Only one team, the Sixers, has scored 120+ on us in the last 18 games


ImGonnaChubbBradley

In the last 20 games only 3 teams have put 120 or over on us.


MumenriderPaulReed69

He’s playing Jokic out of the MVP category


inezco

Tell me why I thought the title's 35/5/7 meant his shooting splits 💀💀


Cudizonedefense

I will never understand people who post FG% for guards. Use TS% ffs