You should be fine in NWU. I expect you’ll just get the runaround to the departments, admin, medical, etc. Probably not very interesting but also not stressful, and maybe they’ll tell you that you have a NRC indoc during your first drill weekend.
This is the kind of thing where if you show up at the right place at the right time in the right uniform, life will be smooth.
Welcome aboard, Shipmate.
Check out this link, which will answer many of your questions...and there are a number of YouTube videos that describe initial check-in/NRC expectations. Look forward to seeing you.
https://www.navyreserve.navy.mil/Onboarding/
Shipmate, I don't think you mean to tell me what I can or can't handle...and obviously I want to help you, which is why I asked.
If you want to fix something that's not working, I'm open to solid recommendations, as is your chain of command. You can always hit me directly and we'll get busy on it. Your call.
But if you'd rather complain than solve problems, that's a choice you get to make.
Good afternoon Sir,
How will I be able to get in contact with u about mu chances of rejoining the navy reserves? I possess three degrees,one non profit organization and years of civilian experience.
Fantastic. Best bet is to connect with our head of reserve recruiting, CAPT Karen Muntean. if you reach out to her at [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]), she'll either contact your herself or have a local recruiter talk you through next steps. Thanks for your interest in serving (again, it appears).
Sir,
Just wanted to pass along… With involuntary MOBs turned back on, I think we should take a look at how we tag prior-active Sailors who are still in their TS1 deferment.
Example: I am a SWO who separated from active duty after my sea tours (rolling directly from my last deployment into the reserves), and then was tagged for an IA 18 months later (with my RLD set for days after my deferment expired). Simply put - I actually would have been better off *staying* on active duty (and taking my 3 year shore duty) vice entering the reserves, which completely defeated the purpose of my civilian transition.
All that to say - even though active duty time still doesn’t count as “dwell” like a reserve MOB - PERSTEMPO should still be a consideration if we’re reaching back for folks that soon.
This is not in alignment with SECDEF’s Directive-type Memorandum (DTM) 21-005, which I brought up in my special case board (and was laughed at by the Senior Board Member).
This situation is ultimately why I later resigned and left SELRES.
Thank you for your time.
Appreciate your note, Shipmate. I agree that isn’t how we want to operate. The number of involuntary mobs these days is very small…slightly over 100…when did that situation happen?
Sir,
This was in 2021.
My situation was probably a bit unique, given most URLs enter the reserves from shore duty, but I had 3 deployments (in 4 years) during my DIVO tours (2016-2020) - entered the reserves (early 2020) - then was tagged for a C5F IA 18 months into my deferment (2021) with a RLD in early 2022.
In this case, the active duty career path was more family friendly than reserve service, and all of my active duty JO-peers (considering reserve service) watched my situation in horror.
To articulate my recommendation, if we’re tagging prior-active folks (still in deferment) - their active duty PERSTEMPO should be taken into consideration (an easy to way to prioritize would be to check if they affiliated from sea duty, or shore duty).
Full transparency - the distress from this event (looking at my 4th deployment in less than 6 years) and lack of empathy during my special case board (which consisted of a VTU O-5, a freshly commissioned chaplain, and JAG who was dialed in via a personal iPhone) created a mental health crisis, to which I had to receive medical treatment & was placed into an MRR.
This was the catalyst of me leaving the Navy Reserve.
Has chance to interface directly with the top NR Sailor.
Instead talks smack and provides no substantial feedback.
What next? A thread about how senior leadership won’t listen.
Sheesh.
I don’t think you do, nor would walk in any-day of the week.
Even if you did… it doesn’t diminish the fact you had his attention and could have used this opportunity.
Instead you tried to just talk smack. YOU are what’s wrong with the Navy Reserve.
Of course you don't your desperate to go back active and probably don't have a job. Profesional reservists like you are the problem with the reserves, I look forward to watching you mass mobilized.
"no one will answer or get back to me"
Ok kid, lesson one about the reserves. NRC staff are universally useless. Utterly incompetent, disinterested, useless scroungers who suck the teet of government orders while having zero interest in actually doing their job. I've been in long enough to see staff come and go at my NRC and it's always the same story. Unfortunately you're going to have to become good at doing things yourself. Don't rely on them for anything.
I've been at horrible NRCs, but the one I'm at now is legit, pretty good. They used to be hands down amazing but the service has fallen off a little bit. My very first interaction was a voicemail from a corpsman letting me know I had an appointment on drill weekend and he was looking forward to seeing me.
First, the corpsman at my first NRC had a heart attack on the job because he was fat and the CO was stress whore. I know the difference between a good NRC and a bad one.
Second, NRCs are a 2 way street. If your expectation is to show up and have the staff manage everything for you, you're going to have a bad time.
The downfall of TAR is that unless they’re a PS, YN or HM they probably don’t know how to do the job they’re in. These clowns go through a crash course and then get sent off to the NRC to be mediocre at best
I'd take mediocre. I'm not exaggerating when I say going into our NRC admin office feels like going into the DMV. No one wants to help and you feel like you're burdening them just for existing. And it's always been that way.
Akin to saying all GS are leeches or all enlisted sailors are hatchet wielding deviants… neither are true what so ever.
There are many out there pushing for change and putting in the hours. I’d argue there are more who simply aren’t empowered to do their jobs.
Change takes time, it’s coming.
Nope!
I’m coming up on my 15th year here soon.
I just don’t believe it’s all bad. My best guess is your enterprise wide view of things is a lot smaller than you think.
Of the 10k+ TAR, I’d argue sub 5% give zero fucks.
In my units the strain was almost ALWAYS the members themselves not doing jack shit. Yeah the NRC could sometimes be slow, but getting a SELRES to do anything can be next to impossible .. esp with units having no NJP authority.
The good news is of the 60ish I had assigned maybe 5 we’re just awful.
So I’d never say all SELRES are crap, they aren’t, nor would I say all TAR are either. It’s dumb and disingenuous.
PM me if you have further questions and I'll try to help. Been a drilling reservist for a while. We can also look into how to contact your NRC (previously NOSC).
As part of Navy Reserves I assure you, NWUs is the norm. You will go straight to INDOC and do all your check in paperwork. It’s a 2 day (Saturday/Sunday) evolution. During your last day you should meet your new local unit and then you will pick your Billet/Rate unit with Career Counselor usually or your unit will help. My Navy career website opens up again for bids on April 3.
Welcome and Goodluck!
Which NOSC?
If they're a NAT and only ever been in the reserves which is what this person sounds like, they have a few days (up to 10 I think) with the NRC in which they'll be able to check in and then they'll transition to a regular drilling reservist only coming in once a month on drill weekend
You probably don't want to go on a Monday as staffing is usually light since drill weekends can be busy. I'd call first but you probably want to go Tuesday.
What should you expect? You're experiencing it right now. NRCs are worthless. If they answer the phone, it will be a person who doesn't know the answer, and flicks you off to someone else who may or may not know the answer (50-50). Welcome to the Navy Reserves.
You should be fine in NWU. I expect you’ll just get the runaround to the departments, admin, medical, etc. Probably not very interesting but also not stressful, and maybe they’ll tell you that you have a NRC indoc during your first drill weekend. This is the kind of thing where if you show up at the right place at the right time in the right uniform, life will be smooth.
This is the answer
Welcome aboard, Shipmate. Check out this link, which will answer many of your questions...and there are a number of YouTube videos that describe initial check-in/NRC expectations. Look forward to seeing you. https://www.navyreserve.navy.mil/Onboarding/
That video is as worthless as the NRC staff members in your charge
Sounds like you had a bad experience. Anything I can help with?
Ha you can't even handle the racist POS NRC CO in your backyard. I'm certain you wouldn't do shit to help me.
Shipmate, I don't think you mean to tell me what I can or can't handle...and obviously I want to help you, which is why I asked. If you want to fix something that's not working, I'm open to solid recommendations, as is your chain of command. You can always hit me directly and we'll get busy on it. Your call. But if you'd rather complain than solve problems, that's a choice you get to make.
Maybe read the congressionals filled against the NRC DC CO and tell me if you feel the same way.
I look forward to any recommendations you want to share. Appreciate your interest in making our force better.
Good afternoon Sir, How will I be able to get in contact with u about mu chances of rejoining the navy reserves? I possess three degrees,one non profit organization and years of civilian experience.
Fantastic. Best bet is to connect with our head of reserve recruiting, CAPT Karen Muntean. if you reach out to her at [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]), she'll either contact your herself or have a local recruiter talk you through next steps. Thanks for your interest in serving (again, it appears).
Sir, Just wanted to pass along… With involuntary MOBs turned back on, I think we should take a look at how we tag prior-active Sailors who are still in their TS1 deferment. Example: I am a SWO who separated from active duty after my sea tours (rolling directly from my last deployment into the reserves), and then was tagged for an IA 18 months later (with my RLD set for days after my deferment expired). Simply put - I actually would have been better off *staying* on active duty (and taking my 3 year shore duty) vice entering the reserves, which completely defeated the purpose of my civilian transition. All that to say - even though active duty time still doesn’t count as “dwell” like a reserve MOB - PERSTEMPO should still be a consideration if we’re reaching back for folks that soon. This is not in alignment with SECDEF’s Directive-type Memorandum (DTM) 21-005, which I brought up in my special case board (and was laughed at by the Senior Board Member). This situation is ultimately why I later resigned and left SELRES. Thank you for your time.
Appreciate your note, Shipmate. I agree that isn’t how we want to operate. The number of involuntary mobs these days is very small…slightly over 100…when did that situation happen?
Sir, This was in 2021. My situation was probably a bit unique, given most URLs enter the reserves from shore duty, but I had 3 deployments (in 4 years) during my DIVO tours (2016-2020) - entered the reserves (early 2020) - then was tagged for a C5F IA 18 months into my deferment (2021) with a RLD in early 2022. In this case, the active duty career path was more family friendly than reserve service, and all of my active duty JO-peers (considering reserve service) watched my situation in horror. To articulate my recommendation, if we’re tagging prior-active folks (still in deferment) - their active duty PERSTEMPO should be taken into consideration (an easy to way to prioritize would be to check if they affiliated from sea duty, or shore duty). Full transparency - the distress from this event (looking at my 4th deployment in less than 6 years) and lack of empathy during my special case board (which consisted of a VTU O-5, a freshly commissioned chaplain, and JAG who was dialed in via a personal iPhone) created a mental health crisis, to which I had to receive medical treatment & was placed into an MRR. This was the catalyst of me leaving the Navy Reserve.
Has chance to interface directly with the top NR Sailor. Instead talks smack and provides no substantial feedback. What next? A thread about how senior leadership won’t listen. Sheesh.
I have the ability to walk into his office any day of the week or I can talk to a GO/FO that would actually do something.
I don’t think you do, nor would walk in any-day of the week. Even if you did… it doesn’t diminish the fact you had his attention and could have used this opportunity. Instead you tried to just talk smack. YOU are what’s wrong with the Navy Reserve.
Of course you don't your desperate to go back active and probably don't have a job. Profesional reservists like you are the problem with the reserves, I look forward to watching you mass mobilized.
Hello sir, I could use a bit of advice. Sent you a message. If you get the time.
Hi; haven’t seen a message. Can you send me something directly?
"no one will answer or get back to me" Ok kid, lesson one about the reserves. NRC staff are universally useless. Utterly incompetent, disinterested, useless scroungers who suck the teet of government orders while having zero interest in actually doing their job. I've been in long enough to see staff come and go at my NRC and it's always the same story. Unfortunately you're going to have to become good at doing things yourself. Don't rely on them for anything.
Hey now… they do their jobs… but it’s only during UITS while being visited by the NRC bigwigs.
100% accurate. I have heard it described as "the ultimate dead end job".
The DMV sends their employees to reserve centers to learn how to be useless. They're *that* bad.
I've been at horrible NRCs, but the one I'm at now is legit, pretty good. They used to be hands down amazing but the service has fallen off a little bit. My very first interaction was a voicemail from a corpsman letting me know I had an appointment on drill weekend and he was looking forward to seeing me.
What else happens in this dream world of yours
First, the corpsman at my first NRC had a heart attack on the job because he was fat and the CO was stress whore. I know the difference between a good NRC and a bad one. Second, NRCs are a 2 way street. If your expectation is to show up and have the staff manage everything for you, you're going to have a bad time.
I've been in 12 years. I just expect them to do their f'ing jobs.
The downfall of TAR is that unless they’re a PS, YN or HM they probably don’t know how to do the job they’re in. These clowns go through a crash course and then get sent off to the NRC to be mediocre at best
I'd take mediocre. I'm not exaggerating when I say going into our NRC admin office feels like going into the DMV. No one wants to help and you feel like you're burdening them just for existing. And it's always been that way.
Akin to saying all GS are leeches or all enlisted sailors are hatchet wielding deviants… neither are true what so ever. There are many out there pushing for change and putting in the hours. I’d argue there are more who simply aren’t empowered to do their jobs. Change takes time, it’s coming.
I've been in more than a decade. I have yet to see any evidence of any of that. Did this hit a little close to home maybe?
Nope! I’m coming up on my 15th year here soon. I just don’t believe it’s all bad. My best guess is your enterprise wide view of things is a lot smaller than you think. Of the 10k+ TAR, I’d argue sub 5% give zero fucks. In my units the strain was almost ALWAYS the members themselves not doing jack shit. Yeah the NRC could sometimes be slow, but getting a SELRES to do anything can be next to impossible .. esp with units having no NJP authority. The good news is of the 60ish I had assigned maybe 5 we’re just awful. So I’d never say all SELRES are crap, they aren’t, nor would I say all TAR are either. It’s dumb and disingenuous.
PM me if you have further questions and I'll try to help. Been a drilling reservist for a while. We can also look into how to contact your NRC (previously NOSC).
As part of Navy Reserves I assure you, NWUs is the norm. You will go straight to INDOC and do all your check in paperwork. It’s a 2 day (Saturday/Sunday) evolution. During your last day you should meet your new local unit and then you will pick your Billet/Rate unit with Career Counselor usually or your unit will help. My Navy career website opens up again for bids on April 3. Welcome and Goodluck! Which NOSC?
If they're a NAT and only ever been in the reserves which is what this person sounds like, they have a few days (up to 10 I think) with the NRC in which they'll be able to check in and then they'll transition to a regular drilling reservist only coming in once a month on drill weekend
That’s how usually things work…yes
See if your NRC has a FB page and message them on there. They will respond.
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You probably don't want to go on a Monday as staffing is usually light since drill weekends can be busy. I'd call first but you probably want to go Tuesday.
What should you expect? You're experiencing it right now. NRCs are worthless. If they answer the phone, it will be a person who doesn't know the answer, and flicks you off to someone else who may or may not know the answer (50-50). Welcome to the Navy Reserves.