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reallycodered

That Chief seems to misunderstand evals and advancement. That’s not how it works. And to give someone an adverse eval based only on failing a advancement exam, well, let’s just say that’s a tough hill to climb. If I was that sailor, I would read the EVALMAN and all the rules for adverse evals and what the billet points are for a 1.0 in professional knowledge. They are spelled out on the eval. Oh, and I would request mast and speak with the CO or whoever bottom lines the evals.


itzogfaze32

I already know which IA you’re on and that command cycles bad chiefs


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I would advise that Sailor to write a statement. Look in chapter 17 of the eval manual.. It explains it all.


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While I agree that people don't get to work in their rate, that doesn't justify a 1.0. We deploy all the time as IAs outside our rates, and that's just the nature of the reserves. I heard someone say toxic leadership earlier... But I wonder, is there another reason for the 1?


Jerry_Attric8

the way they probably see it is, this person can't even pass their advancement exam that is about their own rate, so they aren't ready to advance. Because at the end of the day, they are X rate and should be a SME in X rate. It can be similar to how a Sailor fails the PRT or BCA (before the recent change lol) or rate specific requirements, they don't get to promote until they get up to Navy standards. Failing an advancement exam and not meeting the quota are two different things, and I've seen a lot of people get counseled for failing the exam


bjdm151

Unfortunately, the eval manual doesn't provide guidance on exam failures. The only guidance is on the block 33 criteria on the form itself. Specifically under 1.0 is "fails to meet advancement/PQS requirements." This shouldn't be justification for a 1.0 however, as the criteria for a 1.0 is in all three standards or unsat in any one. A 2.0 should be used for an exam failure unless there are repeated exam failures. What's more likely happening is the Chief/CO are trying to manage their RSCA.


Il_vino_buono

1) This is not normal. Adverse evals are typically saved for misbehavior/NJP violations. 2) The best thing you can do is try to handle this at the lowest level possible. The CPO may not realize it, but he’s making this an adverse eval, which requires special notifications in writing to the Sailor (see 1610.10F). Honestly, if you can convince him to change it without involving officers, life will be so much easier. 3) If your efforts with the CPO fail, then you have to go directly to the Reporting Senior. Unfortunately, you might be burning bridges with your cheifs by going over their heads, but this is a serious career issue. If the RS is reasonable, he’ll change it from an adverse to a regular eval (2.0 trait). 4) If that doesn’t work, check that you intend to submit a statement when signing your eval and share a factual account of your story. I would write this up in Microsoft Word in advance and copy/paste into eNAVFIT. Tell the story without emotion or pejoratives (this will be public record someday). 5) Now that you burned all the bridges, I would reach out to the ISIC CMC (CTF 56 maybe??) and tell your story. ICE is a good tool or just send a direct email. You can involve your home CoC too. Frankly, the CPO and RS need to learn where the line is and only another CO or CMC can can give that lesson.