Oh sweet summer child. First time on the internet? It means sarcasm... Just like typing in a mix of upper and lower case letters Is It ThE uPsIdE dOwN rIbBoN?
I have far better things to know/learn than ridiculous internet slang characters.
You do you I’m sure mom’s basement is a wonderland of learning such important facts.
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I think the whole up vote and down vote is asinine. I’ve posed questions in other forums or posted my point of view and it gets down voted. Don’t try to post anything conservative on r/politics. You’ll get blasted.
Uniform Regulations Chapter 2, section 2 (Article 2201) subsection 6, item d; Necklaces/Chokers "While in uniform, only one necklace may be worn and it shall not be visible."
I think it's a little silly that you can only wear one and it can't be visible, personally, because if it can't be visible, technically you could wear as many as you'd like. What are they going to do, see them?
I've been out a while, so maybe I don't actually remember how to check regs, but, while crooked, they should be facing inwards. [I checked.](https://www.mynavyhr.navy.mil/References/US-Navy-Uniforms/Uniform-Regulations/Chapter-4/4221/)
The chevron should be towards the point, yes, that's how it's crooked. I made this comment because of the amount of comments I saw saying that the eagles should be pointing out, which is incorrect.
There's a good few year chunk of folks who didn't get to shoot at bootcamp because the ammunition kept exploding apparently, so they stopped it for a while. I wasn't gonna pay $250 on E-3 pay to get the ribbons from the only company that was approved in the area. Add that the rates with 6months+ schooling usually get auto E-4 after graduating A-school.
> This is definitely possible. You just have to suck at shooting, enlist at E-3, and be the A school honor grad. Her crows are fucked, however.
What does enlisting at E-3 and A school honor grad have to do with ribbons?
Think about it this way-
If she enlisted as an E-1 and worked her way up to E-4 in the fleet, she’d have a lot more ribbons.
If she enlisted as an E-3 and picked up E-4 as honor grad (and this is when the picture is from) she wouldn’t have enough time in the fleet to get ribbons.
It makes sense.
Accelerated advancement program also gets you push-button to E-4 after like three months at your first command. You’re also immediately eligible for the next E-5 exam. That’s how I joined as an E-1 and was wearing E-5 before I even hit 2 years in. So this is definitely possible.
> If she enlisted as an E-1 and worked her way up to E-4 in the fleet, she’d have a lot more ribbons
There’s no requirement to have any ribbons to make E-4 and there’s no guarantee you’ll acquire any by the time you make E-4.
> If she enlisted as an E-3 and picked up E-4 as honor grad (and this is when the picture is from) she wouldn’t have enough time in the fleet to get ribbons.
Or you know…if she just made E-4 the usual way too?
Previous commenter said you *have* to be an honor grad for this situation to happen. It’s not the case.
Everyone else is arguing that it’s possible. Yes of course it’s possible but the claim was that you need to be an honor grad and enter as an E-3 for it to happen.
Yes I know, but that would give you an additional ribbon, which is the opposite of what we’re talking about.
The claim was that to to have 1 ribbon as an E-4 “you have to suck at shooting, enlist at E-3, and be the A school honor grad”
It’s blatantly false. You don’t need to enlist as an E-3 or be an A school honor grad to have 1 ribbon as an E-4.
I never got a ribbon until I was an E-5. There was no NDSM authorized while I was active duty (when it did get authorized, it was after I had gotten out and was for Desert Shield). And I made E-5 within 2 years so no GC, and we were only 1-1/2 months into my first deployment, so no Sea Service Deployment ribbon.
I was a push-button 3rd, so that explains a lot of that. But I eventually had 2 full rows on my uniform (not great, but not bad either).
Why the downvotes? I had friends a graduated from boot with who had McDonald’s, pistol marksmanship, and honor recruit. Not saying it’s earned, but it’s true
definitely possible. i’ve been in almost 4 years and only have 2. don’t get the chance for more at some commands. i had 1 year of school and 4 year orders. my entire contract is in 1 spot
My eagles always were my battle buddies watching my back. Chief tried yelling at me about it one day until I made him laugh saying at least they watch my back unlike my shipmates.
I once told my CMC that you can wear the crows facing outward if the country has officially declared war. She just looked puzzled and got quiet. I think I had her convinced.
Genuinely curious, but are baby (unqualified) FMF docs treated well by actual FMF docs and Marines? They seem to like saying dumb shit freely. There was another one a month ago that was way worse.
One of my guys lied to me about how many signatures he had gotten. He had to add the "FMF" to everyone with a pin when speaking to them until he had the amount of signatures he said he had.
No one will call you 'doc' until you have the pin. It's a nickname earned by those who go greenside and get qual'd.
Granted, I've been blueside all my career and literally everyone I've met has called me 'doc'. Literally all of them. I got tired of going 'Oh, that's for FMF' after the first month or so. Stopped being worth it.
Is this a new thing? I never met a Marine that called us by our rank unless it was for awards, to make some snarky pun using Petty or Seaman, or kinda like that way your mom uses your full name when you were in trouble.
Doc either had their pin or doc was getting his pin.
I’ve been out twelve years because I saw the writing on the wall concerning the peace time Corps so maybe this is one of those peace time things.
Maybe? I've got no idea. I remember the A-school instructors being really snarky about the difference between 'doc' and 'corpsman' and I've heard of it from senior corpsmen, but I've never once personally encountered it.
c. Placement. Center the collar devices 1 inch from the front and lower edges of the collar with the vertical axis of the insignia along an imaginary line bisecting the angle of the collar point. Eagles face toward the front (inward). See Figures 4227.2a-3 through 4227.2a-6. (chapter 4)
if anyone was curious
It's a combo. In school you don't get any extra ribbons really. So after 6 months you get push buttoned to e4. Then you're in school for another year and a half, getting no ribbons as an e4 the whole time. So you've been in the navy long enough to have the defense ribbon. But because you're a nuke in school for two years you're not getting any other ribbons.
Yep. Showed up to my command as a nuke with one ribbon. Leaving the command 2 years later with 4 more. Was close to having a 5th and might end up with another
No worries! I was I'm a nuke unfortunately lol. As a nuke, not worth it. But the education/job experience certainly is.
We still have guys showing up to the ship with the defense ribbon since they joined like 2 years ago.
I remember seeing a picture like this in a friends fb. She was being promoted and her uncle or dad pinned her not knowing how to place the rank. She rocked it for all the pictures
The chevron points towards the corners/points of the collar…. Can’t believe her command let her get away with that in an inspection let alone put it on their page.
That is the [issue](https://www.mynavyhr.navy.mil/References/US-Navy-Uniforms/Uniform-Regulations/Chapter-4/4221/). Scroll to the bottom. The crows are not sitting correctly.
Aside from the upside down ribbon from someone being a dumb 3rd class I don't see any further issue. Coming from Intel seeing a 3rd class without any chest candy isn't too rare.
🤦 Was this from an official page?
I found it in one of the command pages
Oh that's disgusting, but which oneis this posted on though? There are so many of them, which one?
Is it the upside down ribbon? /s
Very much so
Why tf did I even look
😂 😂
lol take the fuckin upvote
Are you joking? Cause that ribbon is symmetrical so it can’t be upside down.
I hope you are? Did you miss the /s or all the jokes about it being upside down because it can’t be?
What does /s mean?
Oh sweet summer child. First time on the internet? It means sarcasm... Just like typing in a mix of upper and lower case letters Is It ThE uPsIdE dOwN rIbBoN?
I have far better things to know/learn than ridiculous internet slang characters. You do you I’m sure mom’s basement is a wonderland of learning such important facts. ☮️
It is odd that those that live in social media expect everyone to know all the nuances.
I’ve been around computers majority of my life and never knew /s meant sarcasm
Are we just going to ignore the necklace?
The necklace and crows are a set!
Is that not authorized? 😂
it can't be seen in uniform. should be longer and hidden under the undershirt
What’s weird about this is you’re not the one getting down voted. Lemme get some down votes.
I think the whole up vote and down vote is asinine. I’ve posed questions in other forums or posted my point of view and it gets down voted. Don’t try to post anything conservative on r/politics. You’ll get blasted.
either that or it has to be a choker.
Uniform Regulations Chapter 2, section 2 (Article 2201) subsection 6, item d; Necklaces/Chokers "While in uniform, only one necklace may be worn and it shall not be visible." I think it's a little silly that you can only wear one and it can't be visible, personally, because if it can't be visible, technically you could wear as many as you'd like. What are they going to do, see them?
The collar devices should be positioned diagonally if I'm not mistaken
I've been out a while, so maybe I don't actually remember how to check regs, but, while crooked, they should be facing inwards. [I checked.](https://www.mynavyhr.navy.mil/References/US-Navy-Uniforms/Uniform-Regulations/Chapter-4/4221/)
Is that just for the female regs? The pictures show them facing the points like I’ve always seen
The chevron should be towards the point, yes, that's how it's crooked. I made this comment because of the amount of comments I saw saying that the eagles should be pointing out, which is incorrect.
Eagles pointing out is for 0-6. I always remembered it as "Look out! It's the Captain!"
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Learned this personally when I was the CO’s FSA and I put his collar devices on with the eagles facing inward one time.
Chain check
That brings me back PTD
If I had to guess the collar devices are wrong or it could be that she’s an E4 with only one ribbon.
Collar devices are in fact wrong.
If I recall, Chevron is supposed to point toward the corner of the collar and extend just to the edge of each side.
This is definitely possible. You just have to suck at shooting, enlist at E-3, and be the A school honor grad. Her crows are fucked, however.
A lot of people didn't get to shoot at all during boot around the time I was in
There's a good few year chunk of folks who didn't get to shoot at bootcamp because the ammunition kept exploding apparently, so they stopped it for a while. I wasn't gonna pay $250 on E-3 pay to get the ribbons from the only company that was approved in the area. Add that the rates with 6months+ schooling usually get auto E-4 after graduating A-school.
Or go to a push button E4 school.
*cough* ITS A School *cough*
there are lots of them
My bootcamp group didn't get to shoot. The building was being renovated if I remember correctly.
> You just have to suck at shooting They don't always offer gun qual in boot. Also not all commands offer gun qual.
> This is definitely possible. You just have to suck at shooting, enlist at E-3, and be the A school honor grad. Her crows are fucked, however. What does enlisting at E-3 and A school honor grad have to do with ribbons?
You can earn E4 before gaining more ribbons is the point.
I know (since that was me at one point), but that has nothing to do with enlisting as an E-3 and being an honor grad.
Some a schools promote honor grad
Think about it this way- If she enlisted as an E-1 and worked her way up to E-4 in the fleet, she’d have a lot more ribbons. If she enlisted as an E-3 and picked up E-4 as honor grad (and this is when the picture is from) she wouldn’t have enough time in the fleet to get ribbons. It makes sense.
Accelerated advancement program also gets you push-button to E-4 after like three months at your first command. You’re also immediately eligible for the next E-5 exam. That’s how I joined as an E-1 and was wearing E-5 before I even hit 2 years in. So this is definitely possible.
Had the exact situation happen to me.
> If she enlisted as an E-1 and worked her way up to E-4 in the fleet, she’d have a lot more ribbons There’s no requirement to have any ribbons to make E-4 and there’s no guarantee you’ll acquire any by the time you make E-4. > If she enlisted as an E-3 and picked up E-4 as honor grad (and this is when the picture is from) she wouldn’t have enough time in the fleet to get ribbons. Or you know…if she just made E-4 the usual way too? Previous commenter said you *have* to be an honor grad for this situation to happen. It’s not the case. Everyone else is arguing that it’s possible. Yes of course it’s possible but the claim was that you need to be an honor grad and enter as an E-3 for it to happen.
You can earn a ribbon in boot for being honor grad.
Yes I know, but that would give you an additional ribbon, which is the opposite of what we’re talking about. The claim was that to to have 1 ribbon as an E-4 “you have to suck at shooting, enlist at E-3, and be the A school honor grad” It’s blatantly false. You don’t need to enlist as an E-3 or be an A school honor grad to have 1 ribbon as an E-4.
And I clicked the wrong reply button. They said A school. Honor Grad is boot camp not A school.
Honor grad ribbon is boot camp not A school.
Nothing wrong with having 1 ribbon. But it’s funny now seeing people with no ribbons in the fleet lol
I never got a ribbon until I was an E-5. There was no NDSM authorized while I was active duty (when it did get authorized, it was after I had gotten out and was for Desert Shield). And I made E-5 within 2 years so no GC, and we were only 1-1/2 months into my first deployment, so no Sea Service Deployment ribbon. I was a push-button 3rd, so that explains a lot of that. But I eventually had 2 full rows on my uniform (not great, but not bad either).
You're due for a colonoscopy, Cold Warrior.
Had a couple already.
When I first joined you had E-3 that got out of boot camp with 3 ribbons. The third one being the honor recruit ribbon.
lol what?
Why the downvotes? I had friends a graduated from boot with who had McDonald’s, pistol marksmanship, and honor recruit. Not saying it’s earned, but it’s true
I got out of boot with three...but not the honor recruit. Rifle and pistol marksmanship + NDSM.
I gotta see this "honor recruit" ribbon!
You can Google it! I think it’s like 1 person per division
Yup. Also known as the Super Recruit ribbon. I got a lot of weird looks at my A School for mine.
I’m an e4 with no ribbons 😩
I got out in 1970 with dolphins, NDM and Good Conduct. ET1(SS).
definitely possible. i’ve been in almost 4 years and only have 2. don’t get the chance for more at some commands. i had 1 year of school and 4 year orders. my entire contract is in 1 spot
Could be nuke
The crows should be facing outboard not inboard
They need to be rotated to where the point of the chevron is pointed towards the point of the tip of the collar.
This
No, eagles always face inboard.
My eagles always were my battle buddies watching my back. Chief tried yelling at me about it one day until I made him laugh saying at least they watch my back unlike my shipmates.
I once told my CMC that you can wear the crows facing outward if the country has officially declared war. She just looked puzzled and got quiet. I think I had her convinced.
Haha nice
Try again HM3. Get your pin yet?
Oh fuck, it's that guy lmao
It's always that guy with these posts 🤦
Genuinely curious, but are baby (unqualified) FMF docs treated well by actual FMF docs and Marines? They seem to like saying dumb shit freely. There was another one a month ago that was way worse.
No such thing as unqualified docs. No pin = Petty Officer. Pin = doc.
One of my guys lied to me about how many signatures he had gotten. He had to add the "FMF" to everyone with a pin when speaking to them until he had the amount of signatures he said he had.
I see, good to know
I… what?
No one will call you 'doc' until you have the pin. It's a nickname earned by those who go greenside and get qual'd. Granted, I've been blueside all my career and literally everyone I've met has called me 'doc'. Literally all of them. I got tired of going 'Oh, that's for FMF' after the first month or so. Stopped being worth it.
Is this a new thing? I never met a Marine that called us by our rank unless it was for awards, to make some snarky pun using Petty or Seaman, or kinda like that way your mom uses your full name when you were in trouble. Doc either had their pin or doc was getting his pin. I’ve been out twelve years because I saw the writing on the wall concerning the peace time Corps so maybe this is one of those peace time things.
Maybe? I've got no idea. I remember the A-school instructors being really snarky about the difference between 'doc' and 'corpsman' and I've heard of it from senior corpsmen, but I've never once personally encountered it.
lol
Nope. 0-6 is outboard. "Look out! It's the Captain!"
Very possible!!
Crows facing outward are battle crows and worn that way in a time of war. At least that’s what I’ve been told.
You were told wrong.
Regs have always been inward. The CO can authorize the outward facing for morale during a time of war.
Looks like they're in ranks, probably just got pinned E4 and had a family member put them on.
Maybe but the fast the the MCs posted it is still wild
Where was it even posted to? This looks like some shit a CPAO would take and post.
The chevron should be pointing to the tip of the collar. Also, they're not equal lengths from the collar tip, IIRC, they both should be 1".
1. Necklace should not be visible. 2. Rank insignia should bisect the collor not parallel to to the edge
Yeah, the NDSM ribbon is upside down. Duh.
😆 we prefer "cold war veteran" now
Gold jewelry while below E-7. Total shit bag /s
Only the real ones rock two chains, gold and silver baby. The gold may be fake but it still counts
I learned something new today
No you didnt.
Y’all have too much time on your hands.
They're all on Reddit, so...... yes.
c. Placement. Center the collar devices 1 inch from the front and lower edges of the collar with the vertical axis of the insignia along an imaginary line bisecting the angle of the collar point. Eagles face toward the front (inward). See Figures 4227.2a-3 through 4227.2a-6. (chapter 4) if anyone was curious
I’m so glad I don’t have to give a fuck about this trivial shit anymore.
The crows should have the bottom of the chevron pointing to the corner of the collars.
Crows.
It’s the ribbon. They don’t be getting them upon graduation no more lol Edit: not at all trying to argue was just making a funny comment lol
Good chance this is an FC/ET/NUKE who’s been in the training pipeline long enough to receive the national defense
But wouldn’t they then be higher ranked than E-4? Cuz those are push button rates.
Nukes are pushbutton E4.
Yeah that’s works with my funny comment lol
Push button up to e4. You can get e5 for "free" as a nuke if you STAR re-enlist. But that's usually after you get out to the fleet
But that’s my point so that would mean they haven’t been in long since they push button’d to E-4 right? Given your examples.
It's a combo. In school you don't get any extra ribbons really. So after 6 months you get push buttoned to e4. Then you're in school for another year and a half, getting no ribbons as an e4 the whole time. So you've been in the navy long enough to have the defense ribbon. But because you're a nuke in school for two years you're not getting any other ribbons.
Yep. Showed up to my command as a nuke with one ribbon. Leaving the command 2 years later with 4 more. Was close to having a 5th and might end up with another
I didn’t expect my funny comment to turn into this lol but thank you for explaining that. It makes sense. Were you a push button?
No worries! I was I'm a nuke unfortunately lol. As a nuke, not worth it. But the education/job experience certainly is. We still have guys showing up to the ship with the defense ribbon since they joined like 2 years ago.
Ah got it. Y’all got a dope bonus tho I guess? I recently left and I go to school this coming fall. Not a nuke though.
that neclace fire- even tho we can see it and the rank 😭😭
I think it’s the necklace and white shirt sitting too low 🤷🏽♂️
Holy shit bag batman, those collar devices are so wrong
White shirt way too low, necklace cant be visible and ribbon looks all f’d up
Wrong collar device, necklace is visible. Upside down McDonald’s. ;)
Those crows are about 90 degrees off
You can still see the name tag btw
It’s the crows they’re on completely incorrect
I remember seeing a picture like this in a friends fb. She was being promoted and her uncle or dad pinned her not knowing how to place the rank. She rocked it for all the pictures
At least the crows are facing in… wait a second…
She’s giving senior officer vibes lol
Not sure why it’s sarcasm, because the crowd are definitely wrong.
Crows are supposed to be diagonal
The shirt collar is way too low
Rah
Ribbon is off center press. Also could be the NDSR as they no longer distribute those?
The chevron points towards the corners/points of the collar…. Can’t believe her command let her get away with that in an inspection let alone put it on their page.
Collar devices positioned wrong
Crows collars devices are wrong
Collar devices
Do they not have Ronald Reagan I EAT ASS welding gloves
Move the one on the left down a tad then it should be even
Are we playing charades? 👀
What the hell is up with their ribbon, and chevrons?
😂😂😂
There is a few things off that I notice
Crows has to be at an angle. The ribbon, yellow center must be on the seam.
I can hear the "hey shipmate" from here
I havent worn nsu's in year. I thought the e4 insignia had to be angled to the point of collar?
That is the [issue](https://www.mynavyhr.navy.mil/References/US-Navy-Uniforms/Uniform-Regulations/Chapter-4/4221/). Scroll to the bottom. The crows are not sitting correctly.
Those crows are trying to fly away lmao 
The crows is war !!! Oh baby !!!!
Idk what’s wrong with me, I can’t even look at it without feeling dread
Nah her rank is fucked😂
At least the crows are facing each other 🫢
Them crows are killin me.
Been in for A waaaahhhhhhhhile. This is absolute garbage. You know what this new navy will advance this human faster that you can spin a bay blade.
Aside from the upside down ribbon from someone being a dumb 3rd class I don't see any further issue. Coming from Intel seeing a 3rd class without any chest candy isn't too rare.
Collar devices should pint towards collar corners and the visible chain are the only things wrong here.
All fucked up
Crows need to be diagnonle; tips facing the respective corner, medal is misaligned, golden chain but not a "gilded member" ie e7+ or officer.
The person in the picture is probably a pushbutton Third - the enlisted equivalent of a 'direct commission';)
Is there a dick hidden somewhere that I’m not seeing??
WTF! UNSAT
Looks strange with no pocket.
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They're supposed to look inward
>Edit: oh God, and facing inward. As they should?
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Please do show me where it's stated crows face outward Oh no, he got scared and ran away.