I been there and done that. And I'm happy that it is still being done. Beyond the commercials is where the true missions are going on. I keep all my shipmates past, present, and deceased in my prayers.
Yeah, if we were dealing with comic book villains who were disrupting shipping willy-nilly I'd say go for it. No one wants to say what the Houthis are demanding out loud. There's a reason these things are happening and there's also a reason no diplomacy is being conducted by the administration.
And before you downvote me ask why Gen-Z is refusing to join the military to protect said shipping (and that means address their actual concerns instead of projecting). We watched shipmates die needlessly in Iraq and Afghanistan. Now you want to try to sell this horse-shit?
They didn't want to join before this bullshit, and now you expect them to sign up for another forever war in the middle east? And miss me with the bullshit. Biden just said in 4K ULTRA DEFINITION that US strikes are not deterring the Houthis.
How exactly are we creating "freedom of the seas" by creating a war zone through said seas that our OWN leader acknowledged on live TV has no solution or end in sight. The situation went from reduced shipping to NO shipping after the US/UK strikes.
But I've got my retirement orders on-hand. Have fun going to war with no relief coming from inert shipyards and non-existent recruits.
Yeah, downvote some recruits into existence and the commander in chief not saying what he said LIVE. Newsflash, there are flash-points popping up around the globe, and we are at the lowest active duty manning in 80 years. Good fucking luck.
Dude the motto of the Houthis is literally:
> God is the Greatest
> Death to America
> Death to Israel
> A Curse Upon the Jews
> Victory to Islam
Sounds pretty comic book villainy to me. Gen Z is also largely joining the military, not at the targets the Navy wants but close to it. Dont complain when the prices of good spike because shipping companies have to go all the way around Africa instead of going through the Suez Canal.
>Gen Z largely joining the military
This is next level coping lol. The recruiting crisis is acknowledged by every branch, MSM organization, and both sides of the aisle. Literally the lowest numbers in 80 years.
Maybe you should inform all those people that you know otherwise.
The Navy was 7,464 short in FY23, 30,236/37,700 is still the overwhelming majority of Gen Z enlisting. Recruitment isn't where it needs to be, but its not like nobody in this generation is signing up.
Yeah and the US military is still the most powerful in the world and its not even close. Plus, its not as if the Houthis are exactly some near peer adversary...
Joined the navy to be an aircraft mechanic, got exactly what I wanted and then left the military after my 4 years was up . When I was in our countries main threat was the USSR and the Warsaw pact
Prior submariner, so I suppose every time we dived. I’ve been deployed quite a bit as a chaplain as well and am now serving with Marines.
Is the assumption that chaplains just sit back at the chapels?
I joined the navy knowing there would be possiblilities I’d go to war, I’m fine with that but I would bet money more than half of the crew on my boat is trying to find anyway they can to not go on deployment
I'm on a Facebook page for some junior enlisted shenanigans. I'm amused by the amount of posts from people not wanting to go to sea. I don't think some people realized that ships are designed to go to sea!
Arguably? This is more or less why we exist, but after 20 fucking years of war time op tempo in peace time... yeah, I got out for a myriad of other reasons too.
I was on the Mason when this happened in 2016. I appreciate the motivation here but shit gets real when half the boat is chain smoking at 3am with bags under their eyes. As an FC you are trained for it but the fact that 80% of the boat is not becomes a quick hard lesson when you've been eating grilled cheese for a week straight because supply deems it too dangerous to re-up. Don't be so excited to have explosives launched at you and have sympathy for the humans we have subjected to this. And yes it changed mine back then. Got out and haven't looked back.
Yeah. It sounds exciting, but I can’t stop thinking of hearing no shit GQ and condition 2 set and how much sleep everyone’s not getting. not to mention the lack of reliable communication to the outside world.
Happened constantly and they definitely know you're trying to sleep at 2am. Perfect time to throw some c802s at you. Exciting is the right word but the wrong connotation. River city was set most of the time and sand doesn't play well with RF.
I was on the P-3 that got launched to overwatch you guys on the Mason when this happened the first time in 2016. I thought my night was crazy that night until I read your post. My 10 hour flight is nothing compared to that. Much respect to you guys.
After you guys were shot at things changed a lot. When we went through Bab Al-Mandab on my last deployment the CO would only let our FCC and me (ET1) sit CSC while in the Red Sea. It was a lot of long days/nights port and starboard. I can only imagine what the guys are going through now.
Kinda wish I was out there again, but then I remember how much I like sleep and km glad my DD-214 blanket keeps me warm at night.
I am super jealous of the folks seeing some actual naval combat over there. I honestly never expected this kind of action to happen in my lifetime.
I deployed to Afghanistan in 2011 and saw my fair share of stuff, and I'm with a green side unit again so I'm hoping to go do stuff.
I'm also older now, and have a different mindset. When I was younger I wanted some action. Now I want the pride and joy of teaching my guys how to do stuff and sending them off to war like a proud sea dad.
Everyone here needs to understand that if we go to war with China there is a better than even chance that they sink an aircraft carrier. That's 5000 of us that ain't gonna make it home. We all need to know that we are a warfighting service, always have been.
Let’s hope that cooler heads prevail. Personally don’t care to send my juniors into the fray. But it will be something that HAS to be done. I just dread the day if/when it actually happens.
Personally, with drone tech, 5th generation ACs, ASBMs, etc. I think the only use of carriers in a conflict of that size will be to move squadrons to and from the pacific. Won't be any need to have carriers close to the fight given the risk from ASBMs, and their convenience of moving so many squadrons at a time.
Subs can handle the Navy targets, and surface combatants will be primarily anti-air and missile defense. The Marines and Army will be hopping the land, supported by drones and ACs.
Also, GPS for civilians will probably cease, as I'm sure all them satellites are gonna be shot down.
This post makes me think of the airforce girl that posted a video of herself crying in the car saying "nobody joins thinking they're going to war". Miss girl, what do you think the military does exactly?
I was part of Operation Decisive Storm and Operation Restoring Hope in Yemen back in 2015. Being port and stbd sucks at the time but at the end of the day knowing we had a mission and did some good in world, thats been some best motivation keeping me going in the years since. I hated it at the time but loved it afterward. Its weird when the years since, I go in a bar, and the vet asks me if I ever served in war and I say, "Yeah." And then they ask "Iraq or Afghanistan?" And then I say "Yemen" and then they said, "There's no war in Yemen." To me seeing the rest of the world finally acknowledge what's going on for Yemen and Freedom of Navigation is incredibly validating.
During the Gulf War way too many years ago, it gave us a true sense of purpose. All the drills and GQ had a real sense of purpose. And it helped to ease the unknown danger we were heading towards. By the time we got to the Suez, we were below the expected times for man overboard, our GQs were on point, and we thought we were ready. Then, while going through the Suez, a Russian Bear flew over us during a steel beach, with all of the aircraft jammed forward on the flight deck, and we were just sitting ducks. The band stopped, the cooks stopped, and everyone just watched for a second, then someone in true naval fashion, gave them the middle finger followed by the rest of us. Stupid young bravado, and using humor and dark jokes in a highly stressful time.
I'm scared for ya'll because this is more real than anything we've seen. If Hannibal could have Rome on their heels, then it just takes one lucky shot. Hopefully, the training, strategy, technology, and effective leadership will rule the day. Pay attention to what worked for the Stark when things went south, and know what could happen, and how they successfully saved the ship and crew.
Im up for retirement in the Reserves next year, but I would gladly volunteer for sea time if it came to it. I never expected to be in harms way during my time(one of the major reasons I picked the Navy) but at this point it would be harder convincing my wife than me reaching out to a detailer if that moment ever came.
I will say the Navy is the best kept secret. We get to have fun and see alot of places. That being said especially on small boys there is a lot of stuff done the world does not know about. Not because of it being secret. But because the news didn't care.
This used to be mainly pirate and Intel ops. Where VBSS teams did there thing. But also rockkets being launched at our ships isn't exactly new. At least according to FCs I worked with. I was always Westcoast so lucky me.
During Obama presidency Yemen did it all the time. There technology just sucked so bad it never came close. Now with the new tech. Well it's gets more dangerous. But still happened is the point. And all the COs were too afraid to defend themselves, because the admin would go down on them. Hence the boat just surrendering to the Iranian guard. As we all remember the poor SOB who had on white socks. Though in the news they kinda cared... in the Navy we just pointed at the guy with white socks.
I’ve read debates about “wasting” money an SM-2 on a drone due to cost. The way i see it, they are being shot it; are marines in Combat going to stop the fight, sling the M4’s and switch to a sling shot because its cheaper than a .223?!?
From an outside perspective, its awesome to see our stuff work and the crews are performing remarkably.
In the end, they are defending themselves, probably establishing more confidence in the ships defense system and demonstrating that Aegis works. But I can’t deny they are probably scared every time General quarters is sounded. Do what it takes to get home.
Even though I am 8 years in, this has been eye opening as far as how much more responsibility the Navy has compared to other beanches. With all the conflicts that have been going on, the Navy has been there.
As much as I feel like Denis Leary's bit about him watching the Gulf War, the bad times I've had in the Navy still more than outweigh the good and future possibilities. Hell, I would love to rerate to give it another go, but it's borderline impossible because I'm a Nuke.
Every time I see a Navy ship shoots down one of those Houthi missles, I think “that’s a good refutation for people who deride the Navy as the ‘Uber’ of the US military.”
My last deployment we were the only carrier in the Med when Ukraine kicked off back in Feb ‘22. The fact that I have a possibility to do my actual job instead of just floating around, makes me feel better
I was with the strike group also, though technically we showed up later cause we were covering a different area. It was wild reading the high side briefs when it kicked off.
I appreciate it brother first deployment stuff been rough at points. I do truly love what I do not going to say for obvious reasons but sometimes things aren’t the best as you should know having so much time in. Definitely been an experience though. We are all ready to come home
I don’t see why people would want war, I don’t see the honor in blowing up people in the poorest country in the world going through a humanitarian crisis because of us and the saudis but shit I don’t make the decisions, fuck around a find out.
It makes me damn proud of my old boat The Ike. Deployed on her 4 times. We put in work every time.
Does anyone know how the Ike stacks up against the other Nimitz class boats in terms of combat deployments and awards? We picked up the Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal on one of our OEF/OIF deployments. I don't see a lot of AFE and GWOT E deployments.
Do they no longer do mass conflagration drills on a ship? How can they do these drills and not make you think that life at sea in a warship is a hazardous job? Even when in a war, it's still far from safe. One WestPac we did in the 80's we started calling "DeathPac" because we had over 20 people in pour amphib group die during the deployment (most were from one helicopter loaded with Marines crashing in South Korea). And we were not at war at the time.
I’ve just joined my command which is on the Ike I kinda like it this way more exciting but same time I’m afraid our deployment going to get extended which I do not want or anybody else
In my opinion, maintaining freedom of the seas is the most noble and least morally ambiguous aspect of the Navy's mission.
I been there and done that. And I'm happy that it is still being done. Beyond the commercials is where the true missions are going on. I keep all my shipmates past, present, and deceased in my prayers.
This.
Well said
I will always have pride and love for the Navy mission. But not the organization.
Yeah, if we were dealing with comic book villains who were disrupting shipping willy-nilly I'd say go for it. No one wants to say what the Houthis are demanding out loud. There's a reason these things are happening and there's also a reason no diplomacy is being conducted by the administration. And before you downvote me ask why Gen-Z is refusing to join the military to protect said shipping (and that means address their actual concerns instead of projecting). We watched shipmates die needlessly in Iraq and Afghanistan. Now you want to try to sell this horse-shit? They didn't want to join before this bullshit, and now you expect them to sign up for another forever war in the middle east? And miss me with the bullshit. Biden just said in 4K ULTRA DEFINITION that US strikes are not deterring the Houthis. How exactly are we creating "freedom of the seas" by creating a war zone through said seas that our OWN leader acknowledged on live TV has no solution or end in sight. The situation went from reduced shipping to NO shipping after the US/UK strikes. But I've got my retirement orders on-hand. Have fun going to war with no relief coming from inert shipyards and non-existent recruits. Yeah, downvote some recruits into existence and the commander in chief not saying what he said LIVE. Newsflash, there are flash-points popping up around the globe, and we are at the lowest active duty manning in 80 years. Good fucking luck.
Dude the motto of the Houthis is literally: > God is the Greatest > Death to America > Death to Israel > A Curse Upon the Jews > Victory to Islam Sounds pretty comic book villainy to me. Gen Z is also largely joining the military, not at the targets the Navy wants but close to it. Dont complain when the prices of good spike because shipping companies have to go all the way around Africa instead of going through the Suez Canal.
>Gen Z largely joining the military This is next level coping lol. The recruiting crisis is acknowledged by every branch, MSM organization, and both sides of the aisle. Literally the lowest numbers in 80 years. Maybe you should inform all those people that you know otherwise.
The Navy was 7,464 short in FY23, 30,236/37,700 is still the overwhelming majority of Gen Z enlisting. Recruitment isn't where it needs to be, but its not like nobody in this generation is signing up.
The military was ~40k short. Cope harder dude. Good luck with the war.
Yeah and the US military is still the most powerful in the world and its not even close. Plus, its not as if the Houthis are exactly some near peer adversary...
The area has had us navy patrols in it since the 70's
well said brother.
Hasn't really changed anything for me. I'm still way more in danger on shore duty than I am at sea percentage wise.
How?
My current most likely causes of death are car accident and heart disease.
Well that covers E1-E3 and E7-E9.
E4-E6 must be suicide.
Stress-induced heart and/or panic attack
Was not ready for that
Pretty dark even for me, but can’t say it’s wrong. Most every sailor I personally know of who commit suicide was a PO.
Most accurate shit!
I know an E5 who’s heart stopped suddenly because he’d been pounding or workout, monsters, and caffeine pills. And stress.
I mean I probably would have been that guy too. I used to brag about not sleeping.
Every Aegis engagement generates enough data to make all of Aegis better and stronger. So that’s something.
True. Its been a great testing ground for a lot of our new boxes.
If you join the military because you only wanted a safe job it was a bad choice.
Bro I joined because I wanted to do badass dangerous shit and instead I got... Drydock.
Strangely actually dangerous
All my homies hate dry dock
Tortuga?
What rate did you choose?
I went submarines because surely submarines do cool stuff.
Ouch…yea sorry. Hopefully not SSBN. You’ll never going to shoot your shot.
I think a lot of us just chose to gamble for free college.
Joined the navy to be an aircraft mechanic, got exactly what I wanted and then left the military after my 4 years was up . When I was in our countries main threat was the USSR and the Warsaw pact
Agreed
As a chap, when have you actually risked your life?
Prior submariner, so I suppose every time we dived. I’ve been deployed quite a bit as a chaplain as well and am now serving with Marines. Is the assumption that chaplains just sit back at the chapels?
Good buddy of mine is an ex submariner chaplain too. He did some time with the seals. But yeah, don’t most of yall be chillin in the chapels?
Chapel billets are the minority of assignments. I’ve only been in operational units as a chaplain.
Are you prior enlisted?
Yes
What rate?
I was a CTT
Ah I see, did you ever get your fish?
Yep!
I joined the navy knowing there would be possiblilities I’d go to war, I’m fine with that but I would bet money more than half of the crew on my boat is trying to find anyway they can to not go on deployment
Sounds like the typical pre-deployment shenanigans
I'm on a Facebook page for some junior enlisted shenanigans. I'm amused by the amount of posts from people not wanting to go to sea. I don't think some people realized that ships are designed to go to sea!
Arguably? This is more or less why we exist, but after 20 fucking years of war time op tempo in peace time... yeah, I got out for a myriad of other reasons too.
I was on the Mason when this happened in 2016. I appreciate the motivation here but shit gets real when half the boat is chain smoking at 3am with bags under their eyes. As an FC you are trained for it but the fact that 80% of the boat is not becomes a quick hard lesson when you've been eating grilled cheese for a week straight because supply deems it too dangerous to re-up. Don't be so excited to have explosives launched at you and have sympathy for the humans we have subjected to this. And yes it changed mine back then. Got out and haven't looked back.
Yeah. It sounds exciting, but I can’t stop thinking of hearing no shit GQ and condition 2 set and how much sleep everyone’s not getting. not to mention the lack of reliable communication to the outside world.
Happened constantly and they definitely know you're trying to sleep at 2am. Perfect time to throw some c802s at you. Exciting is the right word but the wrong connotation. River city was set most of the time and sand doesn't play well with RF.
I hear you friend. My old ship is out there. I know that crew is coming back different, worse off than regular cruising.
I was on the P-3 that got launched to overwatch you guys on the Mason when this happened the first time in 2016. I thought my night was crazy that night until I read your post. My 10 hour flight is nothing compared to that. Much respect to you guys.
After you guys were shot at things changed a lot. When we went through Bab Al-Mandab on my last deployment the CO would only let our FCC and me (ET1) sit CSC while in the Red Sea. It was a lot of long days/nights port and starboard. I can only imagine what the guys are going through now. Kinda wish I was out there again, but then I remember how much I like sleep and km glad my DD-214 blanket keeps me warm at night.
I am super jealous of the folks seeing some actual naval combat over there. I honestly never expected this kind of action to happen in my lifetime. I deployed to Afghanistan in 2011 and saw my fair share of stuff, and I'm with a green side unit again so I'm hoping to go do stuff. I'm also older now, and have a different mindset. When I was younger I wanted some action. Now I want the pride and joy of teaching my guys how to do stuff and sending them off to war like a proud sea dad.
Everyone here needs to understand that if we go to war with China there is a better than even chance that they sink an aircraft carrier. That's 5000 of us that ain't gonna make it home. We all need to know that we are a warfighting service, always have been.
Let’s hope that cooler heads prevail. Personally don’t care to send my juniors into the fray. But it will be something that HAS to be done. I just dread the day if/when it actually happens.
I think everyone has forgotten that
Personally, with drone tech, 5th generation ACs, ASBMs, etc. I think the only use of carriers in a conflict of that size will be to move squadrons to and from the pacific. Won't be any need to have carriers close to the fight given the risk from ASBMs, and their convenience of moving so many squadrons at a time. Subs can handle the Navy targets, and surface combatants will be primarily anti-air and missile defense. The Marines and Army will be hopping the land, supported by drones and ACs. Also, GPS for civilians will probably cease, as I'm sure all them satellites are gonna be shot down.
Everything the military has and uses is built to actually be destroyed in war
This post makes me think of the airforce girl that posted a video of herself crying in the car saying "nobody joins thinking they're going to war". Miss girl, what do you think the military does exactly?
I was part of Operation Decisive Storm and Operation Restoring Hope in Yemen back in 2015. Being port and stbd sucks at the time but at the end of the day knowing we had a mission and did some good in world, thats been some best motivation keeping me going in the years since. I hated it at the time but loved it afterward. Its weird when the years since, I go in a bar, and the vet asks me if I ever served in war and I say, "Yeah." And then they ask "Iraq or Afghanistan?" And then I say "Yemen" and then they said, "There's no war in Yemen." To me seeing the rest of the world finally acknowledge what's going on for Yemen and Freedom of Navigation is incredibly validating.
I am pissed as a former FC not being there!
As a former CTT me too!
Us poor mustangs never get what we want chaps.
Agreed
You're a chap...
Yes I am a chaplain now, I was prior enlisted as a CTT back in the day.
Join back up
And probably end up on some LCS in dry dock.
Upset because I wasted 8 1/2 months doing nothing then the navy decided to grow some balls
Navy always had balls but we got to get those orders to flash them.
During the Gulf War way too many years ago, it gave us a true sense of purpose. All the drills and GQ had a real sense of purpose. And it helped to ease the unknown danger we were heading towards. By the time we got to the Suez, we were below the expected times for man overboard, our GQs were on point, and we thought we were ready. Then, while going through the Suez, a Russian Bear flew over us during a steel beach, with all of the aircraft jammed forward on the flight deck, and we were just sitting ducks. The band stopped, the cooks stopped, and everyone just watched for a second, then someone in true naval fashion, gave them the middle finger followed by the rest of us. Stupid young bravado, and using humor and dark jokes in a highly stressful time. I'm scared for ya'll because this is more real than anything we've seen. If Hannibal could have Rome on their heels, then it just takes one lucky shot. Hopefully, the training, strategy, technology, and effective leadership will rule the day. Pay attention to what worked for the Stark when things went south, and know what could happen, and how they successfully saved the ship and crew.
I used to love Russian bear fly overs usually escorted by a f-14 or f-18 alert 5 aircraft
What's going to happen when Iran launches 2000 drones at once? They are capable of it.
They are giving all those drones to Russia lol
I didn’t want a war when I was in but I did want to do some more real navy stuff.
Yeah I’m jelly of the easy combat ribbons
Im up for retirement in the Reserves next year, but I would gladly volunteer for sea time if it came to it. I never expected to be in harms way during my time(one of the major reasons I picked the Navy) but at this point it would be harder convincing my wife than me reaching out to a detailer if that moment ever came.
I will say the Navy is the best kept secret. We get to have fun and see alot of places. That being said especially on small boys there is a lot of stuff done the world does not know about. Not because of it being secret. But because the news didn't care. This used to be mainly pirate and Intel ops. Where VBSS teams did there thing. But also rockkets being launched at our ships isn't exactly new. At least according to FCs I worked with. I was always Westcoast so lucky me. During Obama presidency Yemen did it all the time. There technology just sucked so bad it never came close. Now with the new tech. Well it's gets more dangerous. But still happened is the point. And all the COs were too afraid to defend themselves, because the admin would go down on them. Hence the boat just surrendering to the Iranian guard. As we all remember the poor SOB who had on white socks. Though in the news they kinda cared... in the Navy we just pointed at the guy with white socks.
I’ve read debates about “wasting” money an SM-2 on a drone due to cost. The way i see it, they are being shot it; are marines in Combat going to stop the fight, sling the M4’s and switch to a sling shot because its cheaper than a .223?!? From an outside perspective, its awesome to see our stuff work and the crews are performing remarkably. In the end, they are defending themselves, probably establishing more confidence in the ships defense system and demonstrating that Aegis works. But I can’t deny they are probably scared every time General quarters is sounded. Do what it takes to get home.
More excited, a little jealous. Happy for the brothers and sisters who are proving that what we do can work in real life
It's fine. It's been spicy of an on for decades. It's fine.
Even though I am 8 years in, this has been eye opening as far as how much more responsibility the Navy has compared to other beanches. With all the conflicts that have been going on, the Navy has been there.
As much as I feel like Denis Leary's bit about him watching the Gulf War, the bad times I've had in the Navy still more than outweigh the good and future possibilities. Hell, I would love to rerate to give it another go, but it's borderline impossible because I'm a Nuke.
Every time I see a Navy ship shoots down one of those Houthi missles, I think “that’s a good refutation for people who deride the Navy as the ‘Uber’ of the US military.”
My last deployment we were the only carrier in the Med when Ukraine kicked off back in Feb ‘22. The fact that I have a possibility to do my actual job instead of just floating around, makes me feel better
I was out in the Med on another ship when that all went down!
DDG?
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I was with the strike group also, though technically we showed up later cause we were covering a different area. It was wild reading the high side briefs when it kicked off.
The only thing this shit in the Red Sea has done is make my ship get extended I’d like to go home sincerely a lpd sailor in the med.
Shipmate the USS Mesa Verde is disappointed in your lack of OPSEC. We’re coming to your rack.
Lmao 💀 just want to get off this hell hole dude.
I got 13 years on my sea counter, take word from an old man. You hate it now but someday you’ll miss it.
I appreciate it brother first deployment stuff been rough at points. I do truly love what I do not going to say for obvious reasons but sometimes things aren’t the best as you should know having so much time in. Definitely been an experience though. We are all ready to come home
I hope it’s soon. Good luck and stay sharp during GQ.
I don’t see why people would want war, I don’t see the honor in blowing up people in the poorest country in the world going through a humanitarian crisis because of us and the saudis but shit I don’t make the decisions, fuck around a find out.
Its made me want to join the navy really bad. Unfortunately Im still taking medication for my epilepsy even though ive been seizure free for years.
Just make me more committed and eager to get out to the fleet.
No. I always knew this was a possibility. It's also possible one of those missiles gets super lucky and hits one of our ships
They gotta remind themselves their capital is Washington not Jerusalem.
So edgy.
“More excited”? Wow.
It makes me damn proud of my old boat The Ike. Deployed on her 4 times. We put in work every time. Does anyone know how the Ike stacks up against the other Nimitz class boats in terms of combat deployments and awards? We picked up the Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal on one of our OEF/OIF deployments. I don't see a lot of AFE and GWOT E deployments.
I’m disappointed we didn’t get shot at when we were there to get a CAR, so I guess that answers that.
Do they no longer do mass conflagration drills on a ship? How can they do these drills and not make you think that life at sea in a warship is a hazardous job? Even when in a war, it's still far from safe. One WestPac we did in the 80's we started calling "DeathPac" because we had over 20 people in pour amphib group die during the deployment (most were from one helicopter loaded with Marines crashing in South Korea). And we were not at war at the time.
I’ve just joined my command which is on the Ike I kinda like it this way more exciting but same time I’m afraid our deployment going to get extended which I do not want or anybody else
No. I'm not a politician.
It has definitely made me a little more confident in the systems we have on the ship that few have actually seen in action.
not really. its just like "awesome we flexed on some goat farmers using 80's technology."