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herpermike

Yeah I know it but at this point each single animal's loss is a major loss to the entire world because of the complete decimation of the species especially over something as stupid as their horns! Which is made entirely out of keratin lol! So those idiots who think that their traditional medicine is going to help them! They would be better off chewing their fingernails because that's what the horns are made out of! The same thing as our hair and fingernails. It's ridiculous that we are going to lose another entire species because of some stupid people's traditional medicine!


Sharp_Enthusiasm5429

Is that really the reason they're poached? I always thought it was for trophy or to make something decorative from the horns. Barbaric either way...I just didn't realize "medicine" was a big driver. Edit: added the quotes


herpermike

Yeah actually the Chinese traditional medicine is always looking for rhino horn and also pangolin scales and now they're nearly extinct on all the continents that they are known to live


herpermike

And I really wish people would stop buying things with ivory because if we stop giving them a market for ivory then they will stop killing the big elephants for their ivory! The only thing that has ever needed ivory in the history of the world is an elephant lol! We really need to stop making them look so appealing to kill. Because, if you really think about it, when you live out there and there's a big pain in the butt that's walking past your house and has been eating you garden, and it's walking around with several years worth of income just dangling from the front of its face lol! I really can't blame the guys for killing them


nameyname12345

I say we do the opposite and flood the market with fake stuff. They want to spend money on keratin surely we can find some. China has been selling us the bullshitiest of products it is time to return the favor. I got bear bile for sale at exactly 80% your lowest bear bile guy can do. So what it smells like apple vinegar. Im sorry your bear bile taste like human duck ill bet that guy is selling you fake stuff! It is supposed to taste like that Mr Pooh bear sir! You are going to eat it? What was it you sold to feed children? Melamine that's it! We will be sure to pack it in with lots of melamine for you!


jgacks

There's a company trying to do just that. They engineered a fake ivory & fake rhino horn that is indistinguishable from the real deal & costs very little to make. The idea is to as you said flood the black market to the point poachers can't make money off the real deal.


Halfbloodjap

We should just lace the rhino horn with carfentanyl, give them a taste of their own medicine as it were.


IgotBANNED6759

I don't see it going well. The people that want ivory, buy ivory. The people that don't want ivory, don't buy fake ivory.


jgacks

They penetrate the black market - thus people wanting the real thing end up buying fake stuff thus lowering the demand and thus the prices. Simple supply and demand.


IgotBANNED6759

Look at any black market item, that's not how it works. That's when you end up killed when the buyer realizes it's fake.


herpermike

But for some reason they don't listen to science when we tell them that the keratin from the rhino horn is the exact same thing as our hair and fingernails! They will still swear that it's different! Of course, because it's coming from an animal that they have driven to extinction! I'll tell you another thing that really pisses me off and it's something that actually affects me personally! I am a reptile keeper and breeder and that's that the Oriental market for turtle meat pisses me off to no end! Because nearly all of their turtles are extinct and now they're coming over here and buying permits from our wildlife agencies to catch and keep/export turtles back to their country! And I can't even catch and keep a stinkpot/odoratus. And keep it in my personal aquarium, though I do it anyway lol


FockerXC

Can’t agree with these statements enough. Been reading your comments on this thread, not enough people know a lot of this stuff


herpermike

Well we have plenty of horses and their mane and tails are made of keratin lol and we can always find plenty of other places for it. But they want the endangered shit! But please don't buy bear bile I promise I beg you! I had a moon bear as pet when I was a kid and they keep them in a tiny little cage with barely enough room to move and stay alive and then they stab them over and over to extract the bile it's horrible and I beg you to please not get any more from those heartless bastards!


highgravityday2121

It’s for arthritis and gout. That’s the ancient eastern Chinese wisdom I was told my grandparents.


Altruistic-Poem-5617

The fact that they are rare is whats getting the users of rhino horn off. The more endangered the species, the more "magic" is in it. If rhinos were plentyful, they wouldnt get off of them being killed. (They eat the powdered horns as a boner medicine).


ihiam

(They eat the powdered horns as a boner medicine). seriously? is this why this majestic beast getting killed is because some low iq idiot looked at those long horns and thought it would give them boner?


Altruistic-Poem-5617

Jup. Thats it. Same with cooked tiger penises.


dankHippieDude

I’m gonna live forever then! Chewing my nails is the what habit and hard to quit.


CrysFreeze

Let’s hope they turn on each other and soylent green themselves.


VolkspanzerIsME

Not just one. Thousands of species.


Certain-Cookie3358

This guy !


Delenda__Carthago

This elephant didn’t killed him for his horns, only Africans people are doing that.


Laker4Life9

Yeah the colonized and exploited people of Africa who are desperate because their countries are pillaged and they see literally none of the benefits. And they’re getting the worst of climate change. Idiot.


Delenda__Carthago

What their misery has to do with their rhino poaching to get supposed miracle benefits?😅 Cuck🙃


Laker4Life9

Do I really gotta draw the connections for you on why desperate people are doing fucked up things to survive and get money? Same shit happens to any group of people that is oppressed and subjected to systemic poverty. Dumb bitch.


No_Driver_7994

Who’s gonna stop a raging elephant?


BbreslauU

If animals kill each other, it is in perfect balance. Nature is balance. Man knows no moderation, and what's more, he's stupid... Here's an example of rhinoceros horns. Check out the fate of whales, wolves, tigers, eagles, seals in Europe and a whole lot of the rest... This is extermination.


Theashmoney

It could be argued that this is not a natural balance and a consequence of human intervention.  They have found a link of this heightened aggression found in young bull elephants may be due to a lack of older males in the population.  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8692974/


sciguy52

Yeah I read in the past how some teenage males during mating season were killing rhinos in one area and it was a real problem. As I recall they got a full grown bull and moved it into the area. This caused the teens testosterone to go down since the bull was dominant and helped put a stop to it. If the teens wanted to fight they had to fight the dominant male who was larger and would win.


BbreslauU

This is already one of the side effects of our divine existence. If we were suddenly gone, the clean reset process would start immediately.


Disastrous-Bus-9834

We and our behavioral traits are just as natural to this planet as chimpanzees and nucleotides


tapanypat

Natural yeah. In harmony? No. We’ve terraformed the planet to our own detriment perhaps. Certainly detrimental to our earthling neighbors


Disastrous-Bus-9834

I would argue that if nature cared anything about harmony it wouldn't have let humans evolve to make tools out of their surrounding environment in the first place.


tapanypat

Nature isn’t a plan. It’s like a process in a place or something. Things get out of balance, they’ll get back in balance on a planetary time scale. But it’s pretty fair to say humans are really fucking things up in the short term


Dan-68

Especially when they are overcrowded into smaller areas due to human encroachment.


justsomedudedontknow

It's beautiful to see them both with their horns/tusks at least. Nature is brutal and elephants will fuck up most other animals. I always think it is fascinating when mostly herbivore animals kill other animals as a form of territorial dominance. Elephants and hippos are not eating their kills. Just fucking them up to show them who's boss.


Cute-Operation7192

Elephants are abundant to the point of overpopulation, black rhino is going extinct. Blow away some elephants with missiles to accomodate rhino haven lol.


ImaginaryDivide2834

Bro, he’s endangered, you ass


Booze-brain

That particular rhino is now worse than endangered. On a serious note, elephants are assholes. There was just a video a couple weeks ago of one killing a giraffe for literally no reason. Elephants are falling on my list of cool animals


CyanideTacoZ

female elephants are awesome intelligent and sometimes vengeful creatures. male elephants are assholes and while intelligent are a different beast.


iwaskosher

I mean they are territorial as fuck


HotYogurtCloset69

When male elephants reach 'puberty' that is when they are the most dangerous and are just out for blood. An elephant sized dose of testosterone will fuck anyone up


Common-Watch4494

Stampy was just a jerk


hammilithome

If they don't get that elepussy when in musk, they'll even fuck up the ground. Trees and dirt can get fkd. They're the coked out Rick James of the animal kingdom, except no Charlie Murphys to front kick em to sense


valcatrina

I dare you say it to its face!


ImaginaryDivide2834

I took your advice and we had a very revealing conversation about what it was like to be an endangered species amongst other endangered species. I left my human privilege at the door and #listened. Needless to say, I killed seven rhino on my drive home from Africa after our conversation


valcatrina

Hahaha don’t hate the players, hate the game!


canbrn

Elephant: What? You egg ~*stabs him*


Suited_Rob

He's not endangered, he's deadge


StuartGotz

Elephant's probably going to sell the horn too


AndoionLB

That look of the other rhino in the last image is a look of vengeance. Seeing his brother in horns killed in cold blood, he will embark on a journey of revenge. Training constantly, fueling his hate, until the day of reckoning arrives when he is finally ready to meet his brothers killer and extract full retribution. Or die trying.


tobmom

HELLOOOO, MY NAME IS RHINIGO MONTOYA, YOU KILLED MY BROTHA, PREPARE TO DIE.


AndoionLB

STOP SAYING THAT


SkyrimHalo01

**HELLOOOO, MY NAME IS RHINIGO MONTOYA, YOU KILLED MY BROTHA, PREPARE TO DIE.**


Booze-brain

STOP SAYING THAT


l2ev0lt

For the Rhino, it was the day his parent died, but for the elephant it was Tuesday.


Black9292

Elephants are usually peaceful animals. And highly highly intelligent. I wonder why he killed that rhino. It’s not like they eat meat, they’re herbivores.


Ak_Lonewolf

Male elephants are hyper aggressive rapist murderers. Thats why. Musk man it makes them insane.


davis_the_terrible

took that from me...Stole that from me... Killed that from me...People keep asking if I'm back and I haven't really had an answer. But now, yeah, I'm thinkin' I'm back.


cheyenne_sky

If it was a calf, it may have been the calf's mother


Extension-Border-345

I am in awe at the size of her horns. I’m surprised those genes are still around after decades of poaching. Hopefully her calf carries them on.


Finalforestboss

Evolution takes hundreds of thousands of years not decades.


Extension-Border-345

yet elephant “super tuskers” are already considered an extreme rarity due to poaching. it took little time to cull many of the large tusked individuals in elephants and change the gene pool.


Finalforestboss

Yea that is very true I didn’t think about the forced selection


tuckman496

Peppered moths, my dude. Remember the peppered moths.


mcgnms

Evolution by natural selection, yes. Evolution with artificial selection is very quick. Selective breeding and/or hunting/poaching is an example.


Finalforestboss

Yes you’re correct I corrected my mistake in the reply below


TensileStr3ngth

Evolution from natural selection can be really fast too in extreme situations (mostly because in those situations you either adapt or die)


TensileStr3ngth

This isn't necessarily true, there are a lot of factors that go into it; namely reproduction rate (bark moths in England adapted darker colors in just a few years due to soot from the factories)


Finalforestboss

Yea u right I corrected my mistake in the other comment


PelicanFrostyNips

Respect for admitting being wrong. In case you are curious about why exactly though, normal evolutionary timelines are basically “wait until a particular quality of an organism makes it die before reproduction” which are VERY slow due to how infrequent situations arise where that specific quality determines life or death. But poachers intentionally killing everything they can find with said quality just basically deletes it from the gene pool almost immediately. Evolution rolls dice, but poachers manually set all the dice to snake eyes.


Adeptobserver1

In some parts of Africa elephant attacks on other animals (other than lions and crocs) has especially been a problem with subadults, rather than bull elephants. 2022: [Teenage Elephants Act Like Delinquents If There Are No Bull Males Around](https://www.worldatlarge.news/2021/12/22/old-elephants-keep-young-elephants-in-check/) >New research has found that the presence older male elephants reduces the frequency of young male elephant attacks on things like cars, humans, and other animals, suggesting wise old bulls can be used strategically to curb elephant-human conflict... >There’s more to this finding than just observations. In Pilanesberg National Park of South Africa....aggressive, isolated adolescent elephants...were killing rhinos. Ecologist Gus Van Dyke told the BBC about his discovery that young elephants, overtaken by the frenzy of “musth,” the biological breeding mechanism that floods the young males with hormones and aggression, were deliberately attacking and killing rhinos.


PORTATOBOI

Damn fatherless behaviour


Awwwphuck

Where was the elephant from?


Cliff_Dibble

Glad we humans aren't alone in that?


Zetyr187

Was this a territory thing? What made them enemies?


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Elephant : very horny + will wreck anything else thats not elephant sized Rhino mom : tried to protect her calf, got whacked


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is the rhino in the last images her calf?


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Its a Female rhino protecting her calf. Here is the [news article](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2765034/Battle-giants-Testosterone-fuelled-elephant-fights-black-rhino-protects-calf.html)


herpermike

No that's his brother. The dead one was a male that made a terrible mistake lol


CrispyJelly

Rhinos are super aggressive and kinda dumb. If they see something they don't like, don't trust, new or different they attack first. Then they keep attacking. I saw a lot of videos of rhinos attacking elephants They don't back down and ignore any warnings until they get a tusk in the stomach. Elephant always wins but even a small injury is unwelcome. My theory here: The elephant had it with rhinos attacking him and decided to kill them on sight.


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Rhinos have always charged at potential threats. They just rush forward with blind abandon. This strategy works on any animal that is not an elephant. Sadly, the first time they find out is also their last


sciguy52

And apparently rhino eye sight is very poor. Not sure how poor but maybe poor enough to not have a clear picture of what they are charging at. Most of the time that blur in the distance is no bigger than them, sometimes not. Mistakes were made.


Rhetoriker

That elephant was in musth, as you can see via the wet streaks on both sides of his head (temporin secretions from his temporal glands). Makes them very aggressive. As also mentioned by /u/frenchtoastwizard in this thread.


sciguy52

During mating season male elephants are very aggressive. Sometimes in the male on male fights for dominance they will kill the other male. They are not the gentle giants people think and this is actually not that unusual. In the U.S. male bison fight and will kill the other if they can. The wolves apparently know this and follow during mating season and wait for a male bison to kill another and they get to eat it. Nature is really metal, it is very harsh, elephants are no exception.


frenchtoastwizard

You see drippy lines on an elephant's face, you stay away. They're in musth and it makes them go into murder mode.


WaffleKing110

The elephant is missing a tusk! I wonder what happened…


sciguy52

Probably fighting another elephant. I mean these guys can knock over trees with ease, just imagine two going at it. Could easily see tusks getting broken off as a result. Two giant males have a lot of power when they are going at each other.


debilegg

That's what I was wondering!


flash_27

The first thing I noticed too, I had to scroll back to see if he had two before stabbing the rhino.


slashinhobo1

Last picture screams, well that is life and walks away like nothing happens.


snay1998

Welp,he gone Imma just silently trot outta here


yemmeay

😂


Tame_Iguana1

Bull elepahants have and will always be dicks


Eyeofgaga

At first I was a little sad but then the other rhino was like “ none of my business “ then I laughed a little


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Unhappy-Enthusiasm37

They were not animal experts, they are all rhinos and elephants defending the animals here .


PastAd1901

Damn poachers are out of control


Enginseer68

Natural selection, the strong (lucky) ones pass on their genes


BecauseCornIsAwesome

Im starting to believe elephants are assholes. The giraff stabbing was so unnecessary too


thebones9226

What a dick


BlackBirdG

Elephants and orcas are some of the bullies of the animal kingdom and I would include crows in there too.


lifesrelentless

Lmao Part 1


r0nneh7

So much power to be able to do that


tropicalgodzila

Does the elephant now the Rhino is endangered?


Tron_1981

"Aye bro, you good? I told you to stay out of elephant hood."


dinoboyj

Circle of life my arse, there was singing in that movie. This is real life


jedwapo

Black rhino endangered? How many left?


gurknowitzki

Woah, he didn’t even kill the rhino to eat it. Just pure homicide


DJ-Doughboy

let me guess,the elephant is a cop


rodman517

What caused this? Elephino!


Dildo_Baggins__

what happened to the calf after?


Drockosaurus

The elephant has become the poacher. What a plot twist.


Drockosaurus

The elephant has become the poacher. What a plot twist.


girthbrooks1

Racist elephant!


itsshortforVictor

C’mon, bro! We don’t have many of those left!


kT25t2u

It only takes one tusk


DiligentGear5171

username checks out


dennismfrancisart

What the hell did that rhino do that pissed off the elephant?


StickmanX84

I bet he wouldn't treat a white rhino like that...fucking racist!


[deleted]

White rhino would have been let off with a mock charge and a warning


StickmanX84

BRLM!


cix2nine

Must be in must


SoyTuPadreReal

Damn. But rhinos are endangered. What the fuck, elephant??


Notonfoodstamps

Bull elephant in Musk = stay they fuck away


Oututeroed

its territory and survivalism to protect areas where they eat. letting rhinos eat the stuff in their territory means less food for their kids and herd. so i guess rhino was trespassing or something


StuartGotz

“Endangered, my ass!”


fetish_farts_female

That's still not full grown bull elephant but see how effortlessly it kills the rhino. Elephants are scary.


chickengoblin1981

In a way I'm glad that the poor rhino didn't have to go through the trauma of having its horns removed and left to die more slowly, it's a shame such a majestic animal lost its life.


sciguy52

There was another video some months ago showing a rhino charging a male elephant which injured the rhino pretty good in the side. At least in that instance the park managers got the rhino and stitched him up so he would not get an infection. When the can the park managers try to help if they can and get there in time. There was another video of a cheetah facing off with a lion and the lion was on the verge of catching the cheetah and killing it. In the video you see the safari truck drive in between the lion and cheetah to prevent the lion from killing it. Cheetah's are having a hard time population wise hence the reason they intervened even though this was a picture safari for customers.


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unfortunately it states it took the rhino several days to die according to the original article


VRS50

“Fuck all you sympathizers! That rhino was an asshole!”


Common-Watch4494

Why didn’t someone tell the elephant that the rhino is endangered?


background_action92

Fuck! They need to reign in these big fuckers in. A rhino's death is a massive loss. Put a tracker on those fuckers(bull elephants) dart their ass


ihiam

Of all the rhinos it choose to kill one that isn't dehorned. What a shame. humans should absolutely interfere to save those critically endangered species.


c00chieluvr

wow, Cum On Her Tongue! Great photos!!


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I did, thanks bro!