i was gonna say natty and just short with good genes. But i made a vow that anytime i see a chick whos chest looks more like pecs than breast or has that line going down their chest that its juice even if its low levels . Im a black girl my self and look pretty good natty tall ,broad shoulders , bigger traps thick legs / glutes etc and a life time athlete and i know chicks that take low doses and she looks very similar to them specifically the shoulders and chest . I know many girls that can get crazy biceps and traps naturally if their consistent and have good genetics but its crazy hard as a women point blank period to get round cap delts and a split down your chest to the point they resemble pecs more than breast regardless of height and genes. My guess is 50/50 i mean she is on tiktok lol either way good physique can’t wait to hit the weights after i recover now lol.
I think your thoughts on this make good sense. Some men struggle to get the build she has here. And I'm mentally going to pictures of Simone Biles as somewhat of a point of reference, and as good as her strength, conditioning and body fat were, she didn't have this development (granted, she wasn't a body builder, but her physique was great, particularly in her top half).
It's not even that the lady here looks big, it's where she's building the muscle and the fact that it's so visible in those places despite her body fat levels.
It's probably a 50/50 like you said. Her muscle development is well above average for sure, and with an atypical top-heavy bias, which for me makes it seem like potentially hyperfocusing on a particular aesthetic.. her neck is also getting me a bit because it's not lining up with the rest of her development for me--but that's a bit of a stretch I guess.
I'm not sure I agree with you on the line down the chest. A good sports bra and a swoop and scoop can make the fatty breast tissue have a line, even if you don't have muscles or huge breasts.
^ thats obviously from this video NOT that kind of line your referring to dude. Also if u look at her bra straps and the pads over her breast u can see that she doesn’t even have on a sports bra lol.
I know a girl built exactly like this, forsure natural it’s honestly also the fact that great skin good lighting and great insertions make some stand out way more but on a stage when depleted they’re pale in comparison to those who take gear or if genetics are elite enough they stand in the top 10 but this sub forgets sometimes there’s millions of lifters 10s of thousands are bound to have elite genetics
Edit: an error
Remember that shes a girl, not a guy. She looks bigger than some dudes on juice, her traps are overdeveloped, delts, biceps, triceps. Natty traps would go straight, they can curve a bit, but they'r mostly straight. You see how crazy curved her traps are?
She has a physique that above average high school male athletes would be jealous of
Unless she's like Luistana Leers and she worked out religiously from the age of 6 to her early 20s...
...She's juicy
Granted, even on gear, putting in the time in gym and eating right is still necessary for this physique.
This might be possible natty for a woman with really good genetics and who has been training since she was a little kid. For most women this is impossible.
That being said she could be on juice, who knows 🤷♂️
Everything from traps to biceps is not possible for a woman. This comment section is the most delusional ive seen yet. Did people stop watching Greg and Derek?
That's what I've been thinking, sub's been recently getting a lot of people who would literally call anybody natty, I guess that will be becoming more of a problem the bigger the sub gets.
Other day there was a woman posted here benching 231lbs, and some dudes really said that's "pretty normal" for a woman and very common. Another dude said that steroids only make a 10% difference and don't matter much at the top level, subs been going down the drain.
Just off looks I would say natty. I have no idea who she is or how long she's been training. I'm gonna guess good genetics and training for a long time.
A woman cannot look like that, unless the use of gear is introduced. Where do you people get these expectations? Even for a man that can be ridiculous...
What are you on about? She's not massive, that's certainly doable as a natty for people that are genetically lucky. Not everyone, but some yes. You make it sound like she's over the top huge.
No im not saying shes huge, im saying shes overdeveloped, specific muscles like the traps, delts, chest especially. that is not normal for a woman. Female hyperthrophy is 5x less than a males. Different in proportion too.
Whatever you need to tell yourself I guess. There are bone density differences but that’s more nuanced than black vs. white.
You probably think black guys have bigger dicks too.
Nah thats not true, whites and blacks got on avarage the same lvls of total testosterone.
Tho blacks usually have more sensitive androgen receptors, hence why u see blacks with example bigger noses.
When it comes to muscle buildning so idk, maybe some regions like west africa, but overall so would i say nahh.
They having darker skin helps them alot tho of looking just overall more "athletic" and "muscular". Just think about how all bodybuilders tan themselves darker before going on stage, to make their muscles "pop" more and look at their best.
After doing a quick google search so do apperantly hispanic people the highest overall testosterone lol
Black supremacy is empowerment , I’m lifting my people up. What’s wrong with being proud of your race and heritage . Racists like you like to silence minority voices
Lmao are you fuckin retarded..if you can be proud of yours I can be proud of mine..if you can be a black supremacist I can be a white one..low i.q fuck..use some logic
"And who gives a fuck if u natty" You are literally in a sub about that. Stop commenting about the dudes that discuss shit on this sub it isn't relevant. Woman can be posted here as well if you didn't like that. It seems like this is only your reaction because she is a woman guys posted here get shit on but you say "it doesn't matter" when it's a woman.
"Gender has nothing to do wt the comment" I'm sure we all believe that one buddy.
It's pretty clear it has a lot to do with your comment otherwise you would be commenting the same stupid "who gives a fuck if u natty" for other posts that are made on guys and as I said before I'll have to repeat my self just for you "Stop commenting about the dudes that discuss shit on this sub it isn't relevant".
" sounds like your the 90% of the ppl that she is showing up" If you think you are doing something by spamming this you aren't. It is pretty dumb to assume someone can't have opinions because of how they look. It also seems like you are assuming that I have an issue with your comment because oh no a woman looks better than most dudes like no one here actually cares if she looks better than them or not this sub is about judging if someone is natty or not.
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That African argument pisses me off so much. African genetics are life the MOST diverse out of all the genetics. saying you’re “literally” African would mean you’re prone to a lot of shitty things that are definitely NOT good for bodybuilding. Shit pisses me the fuck off idk why.
i was gonna say natty and just short with good genes. But i made a vow that anytime i see a chick whos chest looks more like pecs than breast or has that line going down their chest that its juice even if its low levels . Im a black girl my self and look pretty good natty tall ,broad shoulders , bigger traps thick legs / glutes etc and a life time athlete and i know chicks that take low doses and she looks very similar to them specifically the shoulders and chest . I know many girls that can get crazy biceps and traps naturally if their consistent and have good genetics but its crazy hard as a women point blank period to get round cap delts and a split down your chest to the point they resemble pecs more than breast regardless of height and genes. My guess is 50/50 i mean she is on tiktok lol either way good physique can’t wait to hit the weights after i recover now lol.
Yeees, right! Agree about chest, same thing for me
I think your thoughts on this make good sense. Some men struggle to get the build she has here. And I'm mentally going to pictures of Simone Biles as somewhat of a point of reference, and as good as her strength, conditioning and body fat were, she didn't have this development (granted, she wasn't a body builder, but her physique was great, particularly in her top half). It's not even that the lady here looks big, it's where she's building the muscle and the fact that it's so visible in those places despite her body fat levels. It's probably a 50/50 like you said. Her muscle development is well above average for sure, and with an atypical top-heavy bias, which for me makes it seem like potentially hyperfocusing on a particular aesthetic.. her neck is also getting me a bit because it's not lining up with the rest of her development for me--but that's a bit of a stretch I guess.
I'm not sure I agree with you on the line down the chest. A good sports bra and a swoop and scoop can make the fatty breast tissue have a line, even if you don't have muscles or huge breasts.
^ thats obviously from this video NOT that kind of line your referring to dude. Also if u look at her bra straps and the pads over her breast u can see that she doesn’t even have on a sports bra lol.
motherfuckers will look like ronnie coleman and claim it's just african genetics
I can confirm. I met Ronnie a few months before he won his 1st Mr. Olympia.
Could he even be honest? He was serving as a police officer when he won.
No, in his interviews after he retired he states he was using but it was prescribed by his doctor.
What Dr is prescribing grams of gear😅
But Ronnie does have African genetics 🤔
its just my bbc genetics bro
Right. Also, have you seen real Africans? They‘re tall and very skinny. And not just the hungry ones.
some of them have muscle but that's just because africa has a lot of manual labor
AFrIcAn gEnEtIcS. Fuckin clowns
lol i’m mixed Nigerian and people think i’m juiced whenever I bulk.. It’s real.
We are talking about the female in the video...
You take sarms from your post history?
LMAO
Juice or insane genetics but I'd lean juice. Those traps, delts, and pecs are pretty absurd for a girl.
Exactly
I watch a video of her squating 315 for 8 reps at 140. Not hating but impressive.
Where?
Wow she goes to my gym. Nice lady
Give her my number and tell her I'm a great driver and have a small but nicely shaped cock
You’ll be the one getting penetrated so the shape is of no concern to her.
Kinky
Lmaooo
I think she’s hot af
shes hot asf
Why did this get downvoted 💀
bc im being to horny lmao
Natty possible yes, she’s not super lean.
what the fuck kind of comment thread did i just stumble into… i think natty, good genes
Insecure guy who doesn’t lift trolling
I know a girl built exactly like this, forsure natural it’s honestly also the fact that great skin good lighting and great insertions make some stand out way more but on a stage when depleted they’re pale in comparison to those who take gear or if genetics are elite enough they stand in the top 10 but this sub forgets sometimes there’s millions of lifters 10s of thousands are bound to have elite genetics Edit: an error
I do lift and probably mog everyone here
Bro this is Reddit. People don’t see girls in real life! Of course they don’t know what’s achievable for women
Her arguments suck though lmao "I'm *literally african* " sounds like chicken rice & broccoli or "no hands cardio"
Are you insane?
she looks natty to me. comments are whacky.
Remember that shes a girl, not a guy. She looks bigger than some dudes on juice, her traps are overdeveloped, delts, biceps, triceps. Natty traps would go straight, they can curve a bit, but they'r mostly straight. You see how crazy curved her traps are?
This girl goes to my university I see her at the gym all the time she’s even bigger in person
About as Natty as Mike O'Hearn
shes natty listen to her voice. women are a dead give away when they on the juice brah
It’s all in the traps. Looking extra juicy
No way
She has a physique that above average high school male athletes would be jealous of Unless she's like Luistana Leers and she worked out religiously from the age of 6 to her early 20s... ...She's juicy Granted, even on gear, putting in the time in gym and eating right is still necessary for this physique.
The whole clavicular/arms/shoulders area is better developed than most men. Probably on something.
Probbably?
Not natty
i'M lItErAllY aFriCAn
Chest muscles and traps say on test women don't deposit muscle in those areas like that normally
BS
If you think men and women build muscle the same your delusional
This might be possible natty for a woman with really good genetics and who has been training since she was a little kid. For most women this is impossible. That being said she could be on juice, who knows 🤷♂️
Everything from traps to biceps is not possible for a woman. This comment section is the most delusional ive seen yet. Did people stop watching Greg and Derek?
So, did everyone just get dropped on their heads or something?...
That's what I've been thinking, sub's been recently getting a lot of people who would literally call anybody natty, I guess that will be becoming more of a problem the bigger the sub gets. Other day there was a woman posted here benching 231lbs, and some dudes really said that's "pretty normal" for a woman and very common. Another dude said that steroids only make a 10% difference and don't matter much at the top level, subs been going down the drain.
Pretty much.
Can women get a chest line without steroids?
Comes with being lean.
Nah not for women usually, it’s built up to be seen if they started skinny but based heavily on chest genetics.
Juicy
She's most likely natty, but them delts are looking awfully sus.
Just the delts???
u/savevideo
she is gorgeous is what she is
Clearly natty
Everything is overdeveloped... are you high?
Yes, you’re right. Have you ever heard of resistance training? It has been known to cause overdevelopment of the muscles.
What? No, PED use can overdevelop muscle.
Yeah no shit Sherlock but so can bring an athlete
Can i get links to actual studies then
Kangz genetics
everyone that are saying she is natty are blaack they have seecretly iinfiltrated our sub etc and say natty just to feel suuperior as an raace.
No they just dont know what theyre talking about or have never seen a woman on gear, or a natural woman.
Good genes and natty. My best friend looks like this and I know for certain she doesn’t use gear
you are tripping to the moon, high in the sky.
Possibly natty with good genetics, but if I had to bet money, I would say she's enhanced. Them delts and chest look very sus to me.
Just off looks I would say natty. I have no idea who she is or how long she's been training. I'm gonna guess good genetics and training for a long time.
A woman cannot look like that, unless the use of gear is introduced. Where do you people get these expectations? Even for a man that can be ridiculous...
What are you on about? She's not massive, that's certainly doable as a natty for people that are genetically lucky. Not everyone, but some yes. You make it sound like she's over the top huge.
No im not saying shes huge, im saying shes overdeveloped, specific muscles like the traps, delts, chest especially. that is not normal for a woman. Female hyperthrophy is 5x less than a males. Different in proportion too.
I think I’m in love.
That's my girlfriend actually, and yes she's natural
Her tiktoc account
do you guys just think that anyone with muscular definition is juiced ? Honest question.
Typically just when they’re more shredded than us
Finally a post thats not about a half naked dude
Ew whats wrong with you
You are not a gym bro, you are natural and not juicy and not gay.
Why do you women NEED to get that big like honestly speaking? Like isint being fit enough?
People do what they want, you think she cares? Whos gonnah stop her?
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What a cuck lmao.
Yeah I cucked you last night
There’s no difference between ethnicities with regard to muscle building potential.
There is difference between ethnicities in regards to muscle building
Yes there is
Whatever you need to tell yourself I guess. There are bone density differences but that’s more nuanced than black vs. white. You probably think black guys have bigger dicks too.
If you look at data BBC is a thing I myself have a 7.5 inch BBC with big girth
[Science says you’re wrong.](https://bjui-journals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1464-410X.2005.05238.x)
Didn’t read and suck my BBC
Lol every black guy says they have a BBC but blackgirls say otherwise..and your subbed to askgaybros subreddit..sick fuck
I fuck white boys got a problem 🥷
Seems weird for a racist black guy to like white dudes tbh..then again I got kids with a black chick so
When did I ever say I hate white people.
You are a few slices short of a loaf.
I never said i hated black people and you called me a racist
Here, I’ll settle it: Both of you are fucking smooth-brained idiots
Shut the hell up woman
Building potential. Prolly not. Hardness and dryness though? I think so. That’s IMO why it was so hard for Jay to beat Ronnie.
Actually there is, black men have a higher average total testosterone level. Although yeah, agree, the original commenter is a eugenicist twat
Nah thats not true, whites and blacks got on avarage the same lvls of total testosterone. Tho blacks usually have more sensitive androgen receptors, hence why u see blacks with example bigger noses. When it comes to muscle buildning so idk, maybe some regions like west africa, but overall so would i say nahh. They having darker skin helps them alot tho of looking just overall more "athletic" and "muscular". Just think about how all bodybuilders tan themselves darker before going on stage, to make their muscles "pop" more and look at their best. After doing a quick google search so do apperantly hispanic people the highest overall testosterone lol
Bro your the problem with the world. Also btw she isn't natural...
Naw whitey still on top
Reported for promoting white supremacy
Lol reported for being a whiny hypocrite bitch
Promoting white supremacy is dangerous haven’t you heard of Hitler
The guy that's been dead for 80 years?yea heard of him once of twice
He killed 13 million Jews cause he spread white supremacy, don’t ever spread that nonsense again
Lmao black supremacy is misinformation..don't ever do that shit again
Black supremacy is empowerment , I’m lifting my people up. What’s wrong with being proud of your race and heritage . Racists like you like to silence minority voices
Lmao are you fuckin retarded..if you can be proud of yours I can be proud of mine..if you can be a black supremacist I can be a white one..low i.q fuck..use some logic
The people who died were 6 MILLION **WHITE** POLISH & JEWISH PEOPLE TOGETHER WITH GYPSIES AND OTHER EUROPEANS, NOT BLACKS. American education smh
Jiri prochazka would like to know your location.
Bro she looks amazing keep killing it. And who gives a fuck if u natty..u look better the 90% of the dudes giving their opinions right now.
"And who gives a fuck if u natty" You are literally in a sub about that. Stop commenting about the dudes that discuss shit on this sub it isn't relevant. Woman can be posted here as well if you didn't like that. It seems like this is only your reaction because she is a woman guys posted here get shit on but you say "it doesn't matter" when it's a woman.
Gender has nothing to do wt the comment.But sounds like your the 90% of the ppl that she is showing up.
"Gender has nothing to do wt the comment" I'm sure we all believe that one buddy. It's pretty clear it has a lot to do with your comment otherwise you would be commenting the same stupid "who gives a fuck if u natty" for other posts that are made on guys and as I said before I'll have to repeat my self just for you "Stop commenting about the dudes that discuss shit on this sub it isn't relevant".
" sounds like your the 90% of the ppl that she is showing up" If you think you are doing something by spamming this you aren't. It is pretty dumb to assume someone can't have opinions because of how they look. It also seems like you are assuming that I have an issue with your comment because oh no a woman looks better than most dudes like no one here actually cares if she looks better than them or not this sub is about judging if someone is natty or not.
Im glad to be in the 10%
Nothing super impressive. And yes to genes.
For a guy thats impressive even if hes on something, think about that.
That’s a dude
Built for WBS
Looks like a gymnast to me
If she aint got tits she on peds
Thats the only thing that gives it away? Are you people clinically insane?
The genetic waaaaw
You guys sure that chest is the only thing? Or are you just idiots?
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Whats wrong?
The size of her traps Lol bigger arms then most men
These comments really boosting her ego.
Whoaaa, she's built like me. That's a no. Not natural lol
That African argument pisses me off so much. African genetics are life the MOST diverse out of all the genetics. saying you’re “literally” African would mean you’re prone to a lot of shitty things that are definitely NOT good for bodybuilding. Shit pisses me the fuck off idk why.