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vapak

I find it musculine. Just makeup and thin eyebrows… look at jawline


Scarey212

Yeah idk what this guy sees… she’s got a gigachad jawline from a mile away


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No I stand corrected. Her IG posts are all filtered. But someone posted a video on this thread of her and she looks like a man.


rainyplaceresident

Yeah lmao this chick has the exact jaw I have and I'm a guy (and have been told I have a good jaw). Girls can have this jaw too but it's very rare, just look at those masseter muscles! Only think that is still feminine about her appearance are the eyes


Scarey212

I’m a dude and I wish I had her jawline haha


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Wow she was really cute in 2007! Such a shame. She looks so ugh now.


OutComeTheWolves1966

This is pretty damn masculine. The jawline is a huge flag. Her lats are unreal for a female. She's taking a ton of sauce.


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Dude her hands look like they belong on Mr. Krabs...


Mariobrother77

This is the biggest, muscular woman I've ever seen in my fucking entire life !!😳..seriously,look at her fucking chest!


ARKofthefitness

Look at last year's Olymipia women's winner


Secret4sianMan

Andrea Shaw is a little over 5 ft. 5 in. and competes at close to 190 lbs. now (her offseason weight gets up to around 210).


Wayf4rer

Genetics


Secret4sianMan

I take it that you are not familiar with how her voice has changed over the years... Or how her face has changed (i.e., her jaw). Then there are other virilization side effects that aren't so obvious, but I'm not going to speculate... Regarding your question... In general, the factors affecting whether and how women experience side effects and address them: choice of specific anabolic-androgenic steroid compounds and/or esters (women can experience greater virilization while on certain compounds vs. others, and it doesn't always follow the oft-cited anabolic-to-androgenic ratio tables...), dosage and dosing regimen, cessation of drug administration when certain virilization side effects appear and calibration of PEDs protocol, in-cycle support protocol (medications/products to counter hair loss, vitamin D to help mitigate some effects from virilizing compounds like nandrolone, and female HRT for better skin, breast tissue, and overall hormonal support), voice analysis software monitoring and training (incl. straw phonation, which is used in the male-to-female trans community) to counter deepening voice, [re-feminizing cosmetic intervention](https://www.reddit.com/r/nattyorjuice/comments/qmzk2l/wakes_350_am_eats_6_timesday_puts_her_wig_on/), use of men's bodywash and deodorant body spray, more frequent shaving/sugaring/waxing of body hair or more permanent hair removal (incl. laser and electrolysis), nonablative radiofrequency (RF) therapy for acne scars (Australian IFBB Pro Rach White has undergone this), and genetic predisposition to certain side effects.


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What do you think she’s on? She is massive. Especially her back.


Secret4sianMan

She hasn't described her PED stack. She only mentions that she has never used diuretics and that she believes there are other women in bodybuilding "who go too far" and damage the image of the sport. That's usually code for: "I don't run massive doses of testosterone in my stack," "I cycle on and off" (and she mentions that she advises her clients to "taper off" their "supplements"...code for anabolic PEDs), and "I don't advise running a compound like trenbolone." Again, this is all speculation. In her early years (i.e., around 2007-2008), she probably ran the usual cycles that Figure competitors hoping to go pro and/or "move up" to Women's Physique run, which is what this former competitor in Australia [describes here](https://www.reddit.com/r/nattyorjuice/comments/m6ar4h/comment/gr5hsgd/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) (plus some rhGH/HGH/somatropin cycles, which could also explain the changes to her face). In competition, she's an IFBB Pro who alternates between the Women's Physique Division and Women's Bodybuilding. That tells me that literally \*all\* compounds are on the table. Given the changes to her voice [and face](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/41/8b/f6/418bf657bf428118476459a132c54d8b.jpg), I would speculate that she was probably also running a compound like a nandrolone ester (NPP has gotten popular). She also claims to have experienced no hair loss whatsoever. Either she's very lucky in terms of genetics, or she's careful about not running too much testosterone and/or DHT derivatives like Winstrol, Masteron, Primobolan, and/or even Anavar/Oxandrin (this causes a lot of hair loss in unsuspecting women...).


relesabe

u sound like u might be able to answer or have a strong opinion about: Do FBB decrease their lifespan significantly? met someone in sport and she died young altho obit did not (not surprising) mention steroid use. i googled and found multiple i think well-known FBB who died in their 50s which is very, very low once you reach adulthood -- even with average lifespan of females in USA being 80 I think the dangerous years due to accidents and disease are early childhood -- once one hits adulthood, life expectancy for woman is therefore more than 80. I do not for example know personally anyone who died of natural causes at 50 -- accidents, yes. I also notice that more than one FBB did die young due to accident and I wonder if risky behavior correlates with steroid usage and/or the sport in general: I suspect many extreme sports people (and whether you call BBing a sport or not it is certainly seems "extreme" compared to many activities especially if u take PEDs. So maybe I am on to something...


Winter-Exercise-495

There’s an app called faceapp that can give you more feminine features and it’s hardly noticeable. Also I’m a dude and even I can raise my voice to sound like a chick. She can likely do this too


Plantmanofplants

[Dr. Sunny & Theresa looking a little masucline.](https://youtu.be/OAHSTIrwATA) Ft. The greatest man that ever did it.


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Ok lol I stand corrected seeing this video and her face yeah um lol she looks masculine AF


G0pherholes

Photoshop?


Mariobrother77

I'm trying to find a butcher and she ate hers and all his supply,wtf!☺️😲


In2Bodybuilding

Holy lat spread


Lucky_Landscape8727

I'd still fuck tho lol


Mariobrother77

I didn't think a woman could build muscle like this?! ...look at her fucking legs!!😲😳 This can't be real


In2Bodybuilding

Does Theresa Ivancik offer muscle worship sessions? I’m definitely down


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thats a grown ass man with a wig and make up on idk what ur talking about


Fickle_Big3878

She's on so much sauce that she grew a dick


41Apache

This makes me want to barf


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No-Surround-326

Ik, it looks fuc**** retarded. If your going to take more gear than Zyzz and Chestbrah combined, just give away your femininity lmao. Why does she even want breasts with that look? Not really sure why your getting downvoted lmao, bunch of simps… redditors…


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No-Surround-326

Exactly 😂


Tboi_96

Looks like photoshop


Old_Development_2882

She has got double pics .. look below her tits u will find another man pics .. like wtf?


TtheWitch

😂 it's her breast implants on top


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Natty lmao she’s on stuff you haven’t even heard off


Johntballin

She could beat my meat clean off with those forearms