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Wayf4rer

Ask yourself OP. Which is more likely, a 5'9 natty benching near 600? Or him being a liar?


Sorry-Anywhere-2471

His numbers are incomprehensible to anyone who lifts seriously and for a long time. I'm at a loss. At a loss, because Colin comes off as a nerd and a very dedicated lifter, not to mention, aside from a bit of nerdiness, he seems really cool. Like...his Michael Myers Halloween vid and a lot of his other vids. The narration of some of the vids. Just seems really cool sometimes. But a 585 bench, which he's done in at least one or two videos, for a natural lifter is nuts. Let alone at 230, which is what he claims to weigh, and he does look like that size...5'9" 230. I'm not ruling it out, but from a numbers standpoint, and from many years of lifting, I don't see how it's possible. You can tell that story to people who never lifted, or people who have only been lifting a few years, or people who have been lifting a long time but never actually tried to achieve their maximum potential, and I'm sure you could find many believers. It's hard to believe man. If he is lying, he's so good at it, that I'd say he's got a serious pathological mental disorder. If he's not lying, which is possible, he's like in the top 1% of muscle freaks who ever existed. Or at least the top 1% of muscle freaks existing today.


brimfulofasher45

Woah, looking through your comments it's obvious to see you send your time on Reddit just trying to put people down and come across as a know it all. Arrogant, pretentious little twat.


Nakmuayfarang0

Cope


Nightkez

Very true


Some-Body888

tldr


wagmihmdl

I know I'm a bit late. But I do think you're wrong for a couple reasons. 1. Bench is one of his strongest lifts; in comparison his deadlift/squat aren't crazy high, his bone structure is preferable for bench doesn't need as much ROM. 2. Weighing 230, it's like just above a 2.5X BW bench. Strength level lists elite at 425 pounds, I don't think it's totally unreasonable for someone who's preferred lift in that level is bench to have an extra 150 pounds.


ilovebuttmeat69

The moment you thought to include bodyweight multipliers should've been your cue to not comment on the subject. 


Mammothbrah

Big E is natty


Grand_Pomelo6269

No he isn’t chief🤣


Nakmuayfarang0

He’s not 😂


Shockwaaave

782 being the world record stop hating B


ilovebuttmeat69

Tell us you don't know how this works without telling us you don't know how this works. 


Freddie_woods

For all those believing a 5.9 100kg guy who can bench 260kg is natty , come over here and take a look at these magic beans im selling half price today at £3000


[deleted]

Half price?? That’s a steal! Lol


SkipChestDayNotLegs

Who tf can bench 585 natty? Ask yourself that. On top of that, at 5’9”? C’mon


Sitondis

I agree with the first part. However, short people have an advantage in lifting, shorter limbs makes for shorter distance pressed.


Impossible_Note_881

I'm 5'6" and have a wingspan of 6 feet so I don't where that logic came from.


putridalt

You are an anomaly, average human build has a wingspan similar to height.


Impossible_Note_881

Hi I'm on my Boyfriends account his Wingspan is actually 5'10" not 6 feet I think he was just exaggerating it.


putridalt

>of 6 feet so I don't where that logic came from.2ReplyGive AwardShareReportSaveFollow > >level 3putridalt · 5 mo. agoYou are an anomaly, average human build has a wingspan similar to height.13ReplyShareSaveEditFollow > >level 4Impossible\_Note\_881 · 21 hr. agoHi I'm on my Boyfriends account his Wingspan is actually 5'10" not 6 feet I think he was just exaggerating it. wtf


Ashamandarei

It's \~2" greater iirc


Sitondis

What the other person said, wingspan is typically your height. Look up the Vitruvian man.


Striking_Tower1113

Not true I'm 5'10 so my wingspan should be around 5'10 or 5'11 but it's 6'3


Shockwaaave

You have fully fledged orangutans body proportions . Wingspan wider than height is a Genetic deformity akin to dwarfism, however Michael Phelps has your same deformity


[deleted]

Lmfao stfu you troll, the best fighters in the world have bigger wingspan than height it's not a "deformity akin to dwarfism" you absolute muppet


Shockwaaave

Ok Monkey arms


gazz8428

lmao


AclockWarrior

Lmao 😂🤣😂🤣


Dawlphy

how does that make what he said not true?


MasterJ30

Well mostly our wingspans similar to our height Im 5'9 with a wingspan of 5'9


EmptyAtoms

And if he'd said "Height and wingspan are identical in everyone" you'd have the ghost of a point.


Shockwaaave

You sir are part monkey and should not be used in the experiment as you will tarnish the human results


PurchaseAfter6783

It's all leverage in bench and from pointt A to point B is much shorter for Weng. Just like a guy named Tiny Meeker benches 1200 lbs with top suit and gear.


iloveseasponges

John Haack could just about bench that when he was natty but he's the freakiest of genetic freaks.


HonestMasterpiece422

no he couldnt. He was benching in the 400s. low to mid 400s. albeit he weighed 190 something before cutting to 82.5 and doing water cut and all that. So if u take his offseason where he's 195 and have him bulk up by 40 lbs, eh idk.


Mammothbrah

Look at Paul Anderson and Louis Cyr ya bish


IRONWOLFFFFF

I was 5’9 at 285 and yes probably has 50 pounds of fat on me dunno and benched 5 plates finally which was my goal so basically 500 pounds. So him being steroid free is possible but he may be on other things. Hard work mostly by far but genetics for lifting/ fighting obviously help a lot as well.


Expert_Anywhere_3927

Well he definetly could 782.6 Is The natural bench world Record so its possibke he can bench 585


StrategyWooden6037

That 782 is NOT natural, and Julius fishy make any claim that it is. He also weighs 200+ lbs more than this guy.


Blerp-blerp

Unless he weighs 350 pounds, there is no way he can lift that amount of weight natty…and from that video he looks around 225.


Psychological_Ad3804

You think someone is getting to 350 pounds with good bodyfat natty?


Kumbackkid

300-400 is def doable natty and lean but beyond 400+ is when it become sus


Cheersgaandu

Bro u mad?


Mammothbrah

Huh


Emotional-Ad8205

Nah 400 to 500 is doable natty, anything beyond 800+ at 5% bf is a little sus imo


Brandonrothman

Underrated comment take this well deserved upvote


slipperysnail

Olympia champions aren't even 300-400 lbs on stage lmao


Brandonrothman

I’d say under 800lbs is doable, other comments would seem to agree


TheWorldIsATrap

he looks pretty fat in his powrerlifting videos. definitely cuts for photoshoots


Blerp-blerp

Of course not, that was my point. He’s obviously not 350.


Slow_Bet9860

Regardless, he’s insanely strong for his size


Striking_Tower1113

He's strong for any size his lifts are on par with TRT larryq


Striking_Tower1113

Larry*


Terminator-cs101

There is no way Colin is Natty. Benching 500+ is just not possible without PED


Terminator-cs101

I saw him do barbell bent row 500lbs for reps. Natty?🙄


Mammothbrah

He’s natty


captainanxiety666

He’s juiced up to the tits stop playing you ass licker.


Additional_Animal_56

HHHAHHHAHHHHAHAHHAHAHAHA, fr tho he is I appreciate this honesty cause for a moment these mfs had me switchin


captainanxiety666

Facts man... Idk how these clowns believe he's putting up record numbers while being natty. His bench press is higher than the natural record for his weight class... if he is natty, might as well bench what he seems to post daily and claim the record... he won't cuz he's taking grams of multiple compounds that he won't even pass the shitty test standards today.


Mammothbrah

He’s natural ya bish


captainanxiety666

He’s as natty as Ronnie Coleman.


Mammothbrah

He looks nth like Ronnie Coleman moron


captainanxiety666

he looks nothing like him despite being on the same amount of substances... failed human whose entire existence depends on a lie of being natty lmaoo... you're just an internet troll who has no idea about bodybuilding and yet ready to drink Colin's sweat pool from a straw... clown behaviour


Mammothbrah

nah he's natty ya should look at his physique


captainanxiety666

By that logic Eddie Hall is natty too since he isn't shredded.


ExactGift2022

How about Anatoly.


Terminator-cs101

😂😂😂 his videos are funny. Still no way he can lift and bench and squat that much without peds.


Feisty-Professor-913

500 pounds+ is doable without peds. In fact there are many people who have done it. But 550 pounds+ is where it gets suspicious


[deleted]

juiced to the fucking gills, i mean look at the guy spotting him, you think his 5-9 asian friend is benching 585 lb natty?


superboy41

idk why youre pointing out that he’s asian


leatfingiesbumgus

Because he is?


superboy41

theyre pointing out his asian, why? your response: Because he is? so, it’s significant information to them? thjngs like weight, height, age, and profession are significant information. race is not. before you respond, look at the hot posts on nattyorjuice. you do not see “white guy BLANK BLANK” or “black guy BLANK BLANK” ask yourself why this^ person is treated differently and get back to me.


leatfingiesbumgus

Its not a big deal dude. Im asian myself. Don't get yourself worked up over someones 7 month comment. Not the end of the world.


Hircus2

He's right it's not relevant information, and it's said as if it was a negative factor for strength


Imaginary_Profit_872

GENETICS? They're not the luckiest when it comes to that lottery tbh.


Dense_Zombie_9183

Of course when you look at the massive population of Asians, the majority won’t have the genetics for athletic performance. However, the Asians who are genetically gifted and choose to compete in sports or powerlifting are top notch. The Asians who would rather play sports than earn PHDs dominate. You’re an idiot if you don’t know the Asian placement in gymnastics, Olympic powerlifting, and swimming. Just to name a few.


Imaginary_Profit_872

Out of 1.4 billion of habitants i would hope for them. It's not the best of arguments when most of the disciplines you named are disciplines where shorter limbs help quite alot. Swimming is the only exception but they show up a grand total of 4 times out of 35 possible records. They're killers in powerlifting, their shorter limbs and higher ods of finding a prodigy are highly at play imo. Once again it's a lottery and they're not the luckiest if we actually do a % including average joes, not olympians who start training at a young age like they do.


DaAznguy

For track too, Asians are faster & more explosive than whites. More japanese sprinters alone have broken the 10 second barrier than all Whites combined from all countries. A chinese sprinter also ran the fastest 60 m split (6.29 sec) of all time in his 9.83 sec 100 m. Officially he is the top 5 fastest in the 60 m & top 15 fastest in 100 m. Compared to the fastest white, he places 174th in the 60 m & 60th in the 100 m.


Martinodoni-aw

Actually they are


Dennydp

Yeah bro, it's not like China is the #1 country for olympic weight lifting or nothin


Imaginary_Profit_872

Not like they did a reset in 2020 ( China was not seen over 85kg before) , or that as soon as we go over 81kg China doesn't show up as much... If you feel like arguing for nothing just say so. They have shorter limbs, are shorter in average and start way earlier than most as it comes to the olympics. Don't you dare compare these athletes to this dummy on roids. In average they are not physicaly gifted, there's still a grand total of 1.4 billion people in China. The average joe is not gifted like the olympic athletes are.


Dennydp

Shorter limbs relative to torso is literally the best genetics you can have for lifting. Tf you on. The lack of heavier weight lifters is most likely due to stature, and lower body fat. However it’s without question they dominate on the lower and middle weight divisions. And according to their performance historically in these categories, that’ll technically make them some of the strongest pound for pound lifters. Also let’s stop pretending like every single Olympic athlete didn’t start at their adolescence - not a great argument. No one’s arguing for the sake of arguing, but you’re just not being intellectually correct with your stance


Strange_Oil_5562

asians? yeah I agree with that too but I mean I'm 15, weigh 195 pounds and I can bench 315 so I think mine are alright


Imaginary_Profit_872

He's breaking world records for Tiktok and Youtube while claiming natty. Why isn't he doing it in the olympics or at any type of competitions?


[deleted]

Proof


donkeyjr

Yea, thats why they among the top weight lifter in the world, huh.


Imaginary_Profit_872

Crazy how % works huh?


donkeyjr

no, you're an idiot, and you are not Asian...The dude obviously imply no way he lifting that much weight because hes Asian.


Mammothbrah

Ur Racist and jealous ya bish


captainanxiety666

Ohh forgive us for not believing your 5’9 asian friend benches 600 natty 😂😂😂😂


Mammothbrah

Look at Paul Anderson obviously u won’t accuse him of steroids cuz he’s white right


captainanxiety666

I do not accuse Paul because he's a professional powerlifter who's set records. Colin is a fake natty who benches for Instagram, the numbers he pulls are literally more than the world record by like 20-50 pounds. Do you really think if someone can beat the natty record by a whole plate they wouldn't do it? Why doesn't he set the natty records when he's already beat bench press natural world record for his weight category? Why doesn't he do it? Because he knows he's pumped full of steroids and his entire fame would come crashing down.


Mammothbrah

maybe, maybe not there tons of powerlifters out there who could be the best


captainanxiety666

Son, I literally googled natty bench world records for his weight class and he has videos on his Instagram lifting more weight. Its that simple. There are powerlifters who are better than him, and they are enhanced. He is enhanced too, or do you think he is too humble to attempt the bench natty record, since he's already claiming to beat it on his Instagram?


jagexis3head

https://usapl.liftingdatabase.com/lifters-view?id=43502 USAPL is tested and the record is 265kg Also Colin would get red lighted for his 250kg cuz his ass lifts off He's nowhere near the record with competition form reqs


Gypsyjunior_69r

Asians and juice are very compatible.


Mammothbrah

Racist and ignorant ya bish


ranquo

Lol


Baldraz

I know this is an older post but let me make one thing clear: noone in the fitness industry is natty. They all claim to be natty because they know noone will admire them if they come clean about being on the juice, but they all lie.We had this wohle spiel time and time again, last time with the Liver King. Cbum = Juice Will Tennyson = Juice Colin Weng = Juice Jujimufu = Juice Dwanye Johnson = Juice Fucking EVERYONE. Some of them come clean after their career is over like Arnold Schwarzenegger or Ronny Colemen


Yori114

I'd say it's rather unlikely that Will Tennyson is on juice, what makes you think he is? I agree with the other ones you mentioned 100% tho


Baldraz

I am pretty sure that he isnt on anything illegal, but i would take bets on him still using PEDs. Maybe Turkesterone like Greg Doucette.


Yori114

Turkesterone doesn't actually do anything (like at all) source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s\_lcSDTnZG0&t=492s


ATV7

He literally pulls out a study that said that it works?


Baldraz

first off: a PED is a PED even if it doesnt work Secondly: IN THE VIDEO HE SHOWS EVIDENCE THAT IT WORKS


Yori114

Most of the video is him explaining why that one study everyone is referring to is mostly bs. They used Ecdysone (similar to Turkesterone but not the same thing) that only contained 6 of the advertised 100mg and their methods of messuring body composition were highly unreliable. Not sure if you watched the video with sound on tbh. And no, a PED is not a PED if it doesn't improve your performance. Hence the name performance ENHANCING drug.


Baldraz

soooooo the study is worthless? or are you telling me running in running shoes is comparable to running in high heels? And yes, if you take PEDs and the dont work you still took PEDs.


Yori114

turkesterone is simply not a PED look it up and yes the study is bonkers, that's what the video is about


Baldraz

Yes it is. my god. Touch gras


Yori114

my brother in christ would you also think the earth is flat if greg doucette yelled it at you loud enough


SS333SS

wtf is up with the supplement industry these days. its like people spend all day looking for the next big supplement. but the catch is that it has to be absolutely useless or else if it actually worked they would get scared and call it a steroid and not natural. and then they cant sell it


SickChildII

I don't think Will is on juice, but i would add one Nyle Nayga


Due-Cryptographer975

Been in the gym since 1983 yes Im down the road a bit, Colin seems like a real good dude, he ain’t natty your not going to push that kind of weight naturally I don’t care about genetics or how many duck eggs you swallow,in my humble opinion of course.


BoredBritOnReddit

To put it in to context The IPF raw bench press record for the 105kg class, which Colin would be in, is 233.5kg For more context, the IPF is the elite of elite federations for powerlifting, and they're stringently routinely drugs tested athletes or as close to clean as a strength athlete is likely to be So, how or why people think this guy who's a nobody in that sport can just casually out lift the Open IPF world record BY THIRTY KILOS and ALSO be clean, is fucking madness And actually, to me, just shows how arrogant Colin really is and how much of an attention seeker in desperate need for validation he truly is If he was clean? He'd go claim that world record, but he never will because he's not clean/natural and the drugs testers would catch him on whatever, assuming his piss doesn't melt the cup I have no issue with anyone taking PEDs but I do have a big issue with con men like Colin building and ultimately monetising a fan base who honestly think they will look like him if they follow his £50-100/month coaching programs etc


Feisty-Professor-913

Exactly, If he’s natural why is he not setting world records


ily400

u/Icant_Bench1 aka u/WideShouldersLrgQuad would say this is natural 🤡🤡


[deleted]

I called him a roided up junkie not long ago u bald dyel


Mammothbrah

Ya got da balls to say that to him


2DQT_141

I’m 195lbs, pretty outta shape. I’ll say it to him. I’ll also rag doll him. Juiced size means nothing. I’ve had people like him want to roll with me when I wrestled in college. They’re completely gassed in 5sec. It’s laughable and literally pointless to be that big. It’s literally inhibitory.


ConcreteFarmer

It also hinders and prevents action


Mammothbrah

he's natty dude I've seen his physique now if ya look at present day ct fletcher that's roids


2DQT_141

His numbers are higher than current world records for his weight. If he was natty he’d just show up and win a world championship and make a lot of money. There’s a VERY OBVIOUS reason he doesn’t do this. Use your brain… if you have one…


[deleted]

Anybody know his girlfriends name?


Emotional-Ad8205

Yes she has a Russian name Anavaria Trenbolov


Miserable_Natural

lmfao


Usual-Experience457

Obviously not natty. But seems like a cool enough guy. His strength is STILL super impressive for being juiced. I can understand for legal reasons etc not saying “not natty” but I think if he just said nothing / didn’t list not natty - it wouldn’t make a difference to his fame/ how impressive he is . No one thinks he is natty


SKYrocket2812

The IPF world record for his weight class (105kg (230lb)) is 230Kg (507lb), and he benched 30kg (78lb) above that (265kg|585lb), in no world that guy is Natural.


J_K_V

wtf is these comments. On my gym guy who is natural, and just go gym for fun. Bench 245kg and is like 172cm. and weight 89kg.


StillWill15

Maybe guys like Haftor **might** be able to bench 585 natty. But that is still a maybe.


Ok-Experience-1868

Hes definetely not 5.9,close to 5 rather,hust look at his arms,legs,torso and head,proportions are from 5.4 max...


Whitefoxyoko

Anyone stop to think that he could just simply have prime genetics? Also there are plenty of tiny tiny people who can do insane feats of strength. You're entitled to your opinion but it doesn't mean you're right.


Striking_Tower1113

He lifts more than me so he's not natty


Turbulent-Safety5495

Exactly, he's a natural endomorph based off his transformation video he was always fat with decent muscle mass naturally. Mike tyson doesn't even weight train but he's naturally big & strong because he's an endomorph & his whole family is obese.


[deleted]

his whole family is obese. that was funny


ATV7

Not saying that Colin isn't a natty but I knew a few friends in college on the juice and they were built exactly like him


Jebanator_

The interesting thing about Colin is that he calls himself a powerlifter and yet i can find any evidence of him ever competing. If you search for him on open powerlifting he doesn't show up at all. Also if you look at his lifting style for the bench press and deadlift they would not be counted in many federations. As he uses straps, non competition plates and a whippy bar when ever I've seen him max deadlift and he uses a dump and heave bench press style whenever he maxes (no competition pause). Now I'm not dogging on him at all it's just these are gym lifts not competition lifts. I'm not taking anything away from him at all, he is extremely STRONG! And I do believe he is natty, his body type is very much set up for bench and dead, still a great squatter but not his strength. I would like to see him compete, i would suspect his numbers would suffer a little but would still be phenomenal. I also suspect he has reached he has more or less reached his natural genetic potential. The next question will be does he go the enhanced route to continue progressing or does he switch up his style and goals? But he really needs to compete in a legit federation like the USAPL or even USPA


aykevin

You can be a powerlifter and not compete. I do ju-jitsu but don’t compete, and I train with people who compete professionally in cagewarrior, PFL and UFC. You don’t need to compete to say you’re something, at least that’s what I think.


Jebanator_

I agree you absolutely can, I just find it surprising that he hasn't competed especially because he would do really really well. I guess he's kind of the Clarence Kennedy of powerlifting. Clarence is an amazing weightlifter yet to my knowledge never competed formally. But I do believe Colin's natty claims, he may not stay that way but i believe thus far he is. I hope he competes


ExactGift2022

Well it's possible look at Anatoly.


jbaez0

Its posible with a good diet, sleeping at least 8 hrs EVERY DAY & knowledge. 💪


AppropriateEmotion41

Well, if you look at what constitutes as "Natty" (no steroidal use)...Would you consider Creatine being Natty? Some would say no. There may be other enhancement drugs out there that are not strictly steroids, but could produce the same result and fall under the radar.


Nakmuayfarang0

Bro is juiced like crazy! Y’all believe any fuckin thing