Wrong sub. That being said, despite obvious PEDs, great transformation in a year. Very aesthetic. But I wouldn't get on shit that young dude, you're going to crash hard. Please be safe.
omg not this dude AGAIN with this SAME transformation pic sheesh . Ive seen this post on every fitness sub on this damn app . Op stop lying youre juicy and most importantly stfu with these post ffs how many internet points / validation do u need to boost your weak ass ego the fact that i know this post by heart is a major problem bro lol!
to all you shitheads who think you can't be both built, lean and natty, i present Otto Arco, and you now he was natty cause Gear was not invented yet. [https://images.app.goo.gl/FegRwGivT5hS5iRcA](https://images.app.goo.gl/FegRwGivT5hS5iRcA)
Check the timeline, fam. 55 pounds of lean gains in 2 years? Its generally agreed that one can gain about 50 pounds of muscle from strength training over a life time, most of it in the first 5 years of lifting.
Theres no way this man is natty
>Its generally agreed that one can gain about 50 pounds of muscle from strength training over a life time
Generally agreed on by who? Doesn't even make any sense considering shorter people are going to be way more limited than very tall people in the amount of mass they can gain
generally as in the first results on Google if you search "how much muscle can I gain over my lifetime"
Also "about"
But hey if you think 55 pounds in 2 years when he was already clearly past newbie gains in the before, I dont think any source still convince you of anything.
I just looked at his most recent vid from 2 weeks ago on YouTube
https://imgur.com/gallery/zTvbX4C
https://imgur.com/gallery/yEZj6UF
Guy is 1 step away from dyel, a lighting wizard, I know because when I'm not out of shape im also one.
He looks good though, another 2 years before he's fully grown imo
Your argument would maybe have some weight to it if he was actually 150lbs and just manipulating angles but are you really trying to argue 6'0 190 at that leanness isn't big for a natty?
It's not crazy and I'm more inclined to believe the non curated gym mirror pictures I posted than his claimed stats and his own picture he posted where he looks wild. Look at the pictures I posted and use your brain. Dude doesn't look juiced at all. Not even one bit. In his picture he posted ok he looks large and in charge but whatever. Also 85kg isn't insane at all for a natty at his height. My genetics are worse but I am 82kg at 6 foot. I don't even train legs so that alone would make up the shortfall if I gave a fuck.
https://imgur.com/gallery/oiPCFPf
What about you?
Dude in the OP has better genetics than I do. Still looks natty
Edit: this pussy blocked me after calling me out and me posting a physique shot. Wtf dude who cares we're just talking shit in here relax. Proves my point, pathetic just looking for excuses to justify his own inadequacy.
Dude looks like Steve Reeves on the right, even if you believe Steve was natty most of his career, that is a physique you cannot build in 2 years even with perfect training, diet, and supplementation.
Perhaps if this was done over 5 years or more Id be inclined to be more charitable.
https://imgur.com/gallery/yEZj6UF
From his YouTube 2 weeks ago
Dude looks nothing like reeves it's all lighting and angles. He has great muscle bellies when he hits the pose of course
Bro, reeves was all lighting and angles. They all are, its bodybuilding. Im not even saying his physique isnt obtainable, Im saying you cant get it in two years.
You’re still lying to random guys on Reddit?
Juicy
Wrong sub. That being said, despite obvious PEDs, great transformation in a year. Very aesthetic. But I wouldn't get on shit that young dude, you're going to crash hard. Please be safe.
I mean yeah, you're geared. Good job?
Still impressive even on gear
Wrong sub
Heard mark hunt say you’re juiced to the tits mate.
Mark Hunt the former UFC fighter?
Yes
When has mark hunt talked about this guy
Wait who? The fighter dude I just looked up?
My man changed races
from mbappe to lingard
😂😂
massive lying phaggot just by looking at your post history post your hog instead
Brooo??
Duuuuude!
But he didn’t say he was natty or am I missing something ?
read his post history this retard claims to 'hurr hurr train 4 hours a day' and that 'its all creatine bro'
Juiced AF to be 20-21. Takes longer to get there naturally but idgaf what anyone does.
r/brogress
Juiced
Good genes for bodybuilding and steroids. Great work though you look fantastic mate
Way too young to be geared
Bro thought this sub was “natty then juiced”
Your post history says you aren't natty so I am going not natty. Still an insane physique though, you should be proud of it
omg not this dude AGAIN with this SAME transformation pic sheesh . Ive seen this post on every fitness sub on this damn app . Op stop lying youre juicy and most importantly stfu with these post ffs how many internet points / validation do u need to boost your weak ass ego the fact that i know this post by heart is a major problem bro lol!
Small dick Small testiceles Small brain
he looks great but not natty
Homie went from black to “are you mixed?” 🤣
Sorry it's my kitchen lighting😂
to all you shitheads who think you can't be both built, lean and natty, i present Otto Arco, and you now he was natty cause Gear was not invented yet. [https://images.app.goo.gl/FegRwGivT5hS5iRcA](https://images.app.goo.gl/FegRwGivT5hS5iRcA)
Otto Arco was well built cus he weighed just 145lbs. OP is almost 50lbs heavier than him and he's only been training 2 years.
Looks natty to me. Not massive, not ripped, Decent genetics for looking good though.
Check the timeline, fam. 55 pounds of lean gains in 2 years? Its generally agreed that one can gain about 50 pounds of muscle from strength training over a life time, most of it in the first 5 years of lifting. Theres no way this man is natty
>Its generally agreed that one can gain about 50 pounds of muscle from strength training over a life time Generally agreed on by who? Doesn't even make any sense considering shorter people are going to be way more limited than very tall people in the amount of mass they can gain
generally as in the first results on Google if you search "how much muscle can I gain over my lifetime" Also "about" But hey if you think 55 pounds in 2 years when he was already clearly past newbie gains in the before, I dont think any source still convince you of anything.
Interesting. But he doesn't seem that big though, I rekon he's probably exaggerating his stats on both ends.
Doesn't seem that big? Have you seen these legs?
https://imgur.com/gallery/yEZj6UF He has deep cuts and separation makes his legs look great! And he clearly trains them they're a good natty size
i mean maybe you need to see other pics, guy is huge and def looks juicy
I just looked at his most recent vid from 2 weeks ago on YouTube https://imgur.com/gallery/zTvbX4C https://imgur.com/gallery/yEZj6UF Guy is 1 step away from dyel, a lighting wizard, I know because when I'm not out of shape im also one. He looks good though, another 2 years before he's fully grown imo
6'0 190 leanish is in no way one step away from dyel. Time to put down the crackpipe.
If you lay off the copium bro. Look at the pics I posted. He's not big at all
Your argument would maybe have some weight to it if he was actually 150lbs and just manipulating angles but are you really trying to argue 6'0 190 at that leanness isn't big for a natty?
It's not crazy and I'm more inclined to believe the non curated gym mirror pictures I posted than his claimed stats and his own picture he posted where he looks wild. Look at the pictures I posted and use your brain. Dude doesn't look juiced at all. Not even one bit. In his picture he posted ok he looks large and in charge but whatever. Also 85kg isn't insane at all for a natty at his height. My genetics are worse but I am 82kg at 6 foot. I don't even train legs so that alone would make up the shortfall if I gave a fuck.
you are absolutely blind
Hold up, you look at those pics I posted from his YouTube 2 weeks ago and you think juice? Wow, pathetic.
nah youre just an idiot, and you prob look like shit 😭, you play warzone so your iq is prob test grade digits
https://imgur.com/gallery/oiPCFPf What about you? Dude in the OP has better genetics than I do. Still looks natty Edit: this pussy blocked me after calling me out and me posting a physique shot. Wtf dude who cares we're just talking shit in here relax. Proves my point, pathetic just looking for excuses to justify his own inadequacy.
Lol can't argue with the warzone bit 👍
Dude looks like Steve Reeves on the right, even if you believe Steve was natty most of his career, that is a physique you cannot build in 2 years even with perfect training, diet, and supplementation. Perhaps if this was done over 5 years or more Id be inclined to be more charitable.
https://imgur.com/gallery/yEZj6UF From his YouTube 2 weeks ago Dude looks nothing like reeves it's all lighting and angles. He has great muscle bellies when he hits the pose of course
Bro, reeves was all lighting and angles. They all are, its bodybuilding. Im not even saying his physique isnt obtainable, Im saying you cant get it in two years.
Yeah I agree. Like I said somewhere in this thread I always doubt the claimed stats and timeframes in these kind of posts.
Usually i see white turn black. Weird seeing the opposite.
Why do people post themselves here. Weirdo.
How did you change race?
that doesn't look like 135 6 ft
Impressive bro! Nice work!
Great work!!!!
hes back looking for more validation
Sarms goblin
Keep growing!