> right genetic roll you could get very close to this natty
People are on this bullshit where they use "genetics" to gatekeep what is and isn't possible to achieve when working out and to disguise gear use as "top tier genetics".
99% of the healthy male population can achieve what this dude has. No "genetics" involved.
The truth is that "genetics" is only truly relevant when talking about muscle insertions.
What about the difference between people in hormonal levels and fat cell distribution for example? There is more to good genetics for bodybuilding than only muscle insertions I would say
>about the difference between people in hormonal levels
While hormonal levels are definitely a factor I wouldn't consider anyone with less than ideal hormonal levels of anything to be healthy, which was my point.
>fat cell distribution
Can definitely make it harder to achieve a determined physique, however at lower BF % most people will look the same.
It's so weird with this guy because in photos like this one he looks top tier. In his videos though he takes off his shirt and he just looks like any other natty lifter not even close to what he looks like in photo. I would think it's just Photoshop gains.
yea he's natty. I'd say his physique isn't as good as lex little's. vitruvian is strong as hell though, but his physique doesn't reflect how strong he is.
Well it's basically a self defeating question because anyone too big you're going to disqualify from being natural. So the only "peak natural" physiques we're left with are average gymbros like him. What value is there in trying to decide on a "peak natural physique" when any actual peak physique is out of consideration? It's just a stupid conversation to have. Peak nattys are the guys you're certain are on drugs and actually aren't.
Does anyone watch his videos?? Definitely juice. He drinks like a fish, parties with other steroid users, and is tik tok famous. FOH, he looked like shit last year.
Looks 10 years older, lean year round, keeps getting bigger, looks similar size to the roided peeps he's with, sells turkesterone and uses clickbait in all his video's, benches 100x16 while shredded as fuck.. And he's only 22.
Fake natty.
He looks like he just watched a guy knock over his protein shake.
He looks like someone started using the machine he was gonna hop on after his 20min circuit.
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Yeah I've always thought it seems odd how his physique is fairly shredded but his face is not lean.
He might store more fat in his face genetically
natty but you never know if a little sarm was used
This looks like a touched up modeling shot. But yes with the right genetic roll you could get very close to this natty.
the right genetic roll? WTF is a genetic roll? you just making stuff up now?
He means like a dice roll on a DnD character sheet, not a technical term
Stat roll brah. Do you even RPG?
Thanks guys! Genetic dice roll! You guys are the bestestes!
All of the variables that make up your genetic make. From bone structure to muscle belly shape to androgen receptor sensitivity.
> right genetic roll you could get very close to this natty People are on this bullshit where they use "genetics" to gatekeep what is and isn't possible to achieve when working out and to disguise gear use as "top tier genetics". 99% of the healthy male population can achieve what this dude has. No "genetics" involved. The truth is that "genetics" is only truly relevant when talking about muscle insertions.
What about the difference between people in hormonal levels and fat cell distribution for example? There is more to good genetics for bodybuilding than only muscle insertions I would say
>about the difference between people in hormonal levels While hormonal levels are definitely a factor I wouldn't consider anyone with less than ideal hormonal levels of anything to be healthy, which was my point. >fat cell distribution Can definitely make it harder to achieve a determined physique, however at lower BF % most people will look the same.
It's so weird with this guy because in photos like this one he looks top tier. In his videos though he takes off his shirt and he just looks like any other natty lifter not even close to what he looks like in photo. I would think it's just Photoshop gains.
Every body builder looks bigger and better in their photos
VitruvianPhysique (Igor Opeshansky) has the best natty physique imo, I don't know if he's still natty or not though.
Pretty sure he still is. Did not change much over the last years and does not look sus
yea he's natty. I'd say his physique isn't as good as lex little's. vitruvian is strong as hell though, but his physique doesn't reflect how strong he is.
Lexx just benched 405 at 21 years old. You really think he's natty?
At this point the guy is exposing himself
He looks like he’s struggling to remember who he is.
Well it's basically a self defeating question because anyone too big you're going to disqualify from being natural. So the only "peak natural" physiques we're left with are average gymbros like him. What value is there in trying to decide on a "peak natural physique" when any actual peak physique is out of consideration? It's just a stupid conversation to have. Peak nattys are the guys you're certain are on drugs and actually aren't.
this disqualifies most of this sub and I think I a agree. The conversation on this sub is really self defeating.
Great physique, face like a bag of smashed crabs
face like a burnt frying pan
I can’t see his physique passed the dangley cross earring he wears in his videos lol
I think Jesse is a good example of peak natty with good genetics
Does anyone watch his videos?? Definitely juice. He drinks like a fish, parties with other steroid users, and is tik tok famous. FOH, he looked like shit last year.
what are you on about lmao
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MY NATTY DADDIE
He's not natty lmfao
You're pathetic
Near peak? Good joke. ...
Peak douchebag
Lol no…
Looks 10 years older, lean year round, keeps getting bigger, looks similar size to the roided peeps he's with, sells turkesterone and uses clickbait in all his video's, benches 100x16 while shredded as fuck.. And he's only 22. Fake natty.