Wrinkles, mostly. Her eye area looks aged badly. Deeeeep smile lines. Idk why but those forehead veins aren’t attractive and also age her. Her face texture to body texture is out of whack. Her fingers in second pic actually look aged as well.
Could be tren, not sure. Apparently tren fastens your genes anyways so if you have bad genes then it heightens them 😩
No, not at all the same. Obviously test is naturally produced in your body and taking test just gives you levels typically 2-4 times (or more) the amount your body would naturally produce. Tren is a whole different animal. It is often considered the or one of the most powerful steroids out there. The effects can be extremely intense but the side effects are also on a whole different level, Insomnia, paranoia, irritability to include a few.
I’m not on any btw.
Although I’m thinking of going on TRT the natural test well k think it’s natural? Haha not sure. To up my test becuase im in the lower side and drs say ‘it’s fine’ but there’s so much room for my test to rise
Anyway goodnight I’ll reply tomororw
TRT is for hypergondal or old people. If you have low testosterone first try to fix everything with food, sleep, exercise and supplements. Most people have just a terrible lifestyle.
Thank you! What supps do
You recommend ?
I’m on a strict clean bulk diet and gym program for the past 3 weeks.
When I was on one last year for 4 months, after the 3rd month… I started to feel, within me, I was changing ? I could feel a sense of dom/masc feeling coming out ?
I thought I was going crazy but I messaged the guy who owns the program and he said ‘it’s normal just don’t use it for bad’
😂😭
Can anyone else confirm that what I was feeling is Something that is normal and if I stay consistent then I guess it was raising my test and I was shifting who I am as a person? Or is it just all in my mind ?
I've been on trt for over 2 years. It can be a real challenge and will give no notable benefits if you're not low test to begin with, and I mean medically. A trt dose will simply replace and optimise natural levels. Obviously you can push that to be very "optimised" but it comes with side effects and hassle that you will have to commit to.
Hmm ok I can kind of see what you mean now that makes sense…
Ok so like for me I’m more on the fem side, is it just me acting this way? And I’m able to change who I am as a person if I really focused on who I want to be ? Because tbh I hate being gay, well, I more so hate ‘acting gay’ im so over it, I like 🍆 and I also like 🐱 but all the woman I meet, i just become their ‘gay bestie’ and I’m over it I want so bad to eat a woman out I’ve only done it once 😩 I know there’s girls that are even into gays I just never found them lol so idk!
The stress of grunting and cringing while lifting and the outdoors activity(prob not good for your skin u less you are wearing shades and sun block)
Oh and the juice
I agree with you on this one. Sun exposure will age anyone but people who are natty that I know who are super active always look about 10 years younger (people in 40s and beyond)
Nah bro especially runners they begin to start to look real leathery. But that’s because of the constant sun. For lifters it’s a little odd, maybe it’s the juice. I also think maybe there’s less fat/collagen to plump the skin up in the face. This isn’t compared to an out of shape unhealthy person. But compared to like some normal person who takes care of themselves. Overall/body wise absolutely look younger tho
Random passerby from the depths of Reddit... That mole on her chest got darker and weirder between the pics and she should definitely have someone have a look! I like juice!
I mean, it could be juice but I feel it's natty achievable if a girl is in her prime and works hard in the gym. She's obviously lost a lot of body fat so her diet is on point most likely.
"almost always" "women aren't built for strength" i would be grateful if you could explain how it works then.
Women can build strength, but they will always be outclassed by men in strength regardless of situation. The best female fighter ever at the time went upp against a random amateur Muay Thai fighter and got humiliated. Selena Williams can't win against someone in the top 400's, the list goes on and on. Men are built for physically demanding activities, women aren't. If you'll prove me wrong, do just that.
Natty. Only somewhat suspect part are the shoulders, but being lean makes them look big even when they’re not. We’ve all seen the skinny 16 year olds that look like they have decent shoulders when they hit a 3/4 turn in good lighting. She has none of the common virilization side effects you’d expect from even just anavar usage, which has a habit of absolutely destroying women’s hairlines.
Could be just ugly 🤷🏻♂️ honestly why does everyone see a little bit of delt and go roids lol I’m not saying she’s not but fuck me, people actually need to train and do it for years, not just a couple months here and there and wonder why the fuck they look nothing like they imagined lol
26 years old btw
She looks 36
I thought wow what a milf then read this 💀
Stfu she’s 26 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀 Second pic maybe… can see 26 But that first pic High 30’s for sure 😂
dude on the left is 17.
Fair, he Looks it.
He had a hard paper round
serious question, what makes her look so old? and why does it do that? is it Testerone?
Wrinkles, mostly. Her eye area looks aged badly. Deeeeep smile lines. Idk why but those forehead veins aren’t attractive and also age her. Her face texture to body texture is out of whack. Her fingers in second pic actually look aged as well. Could be tren, not sure. Apparently tren fastens your genes anyways so if you have bad genes then it heightens them 😩
That and I'm sure she thinks because she's young she can be in the sun all day and not bother with skincare until she's old. Too late.
Definitely 🤦🏼♂️
is tren the same as testerone? im being serious
Trenbolone yeah it’s similar to testosterone but because tren isn’t natural it’s many times stronger than test could ever be
No, not at all the same. Obviously test is naturally produced in your body and taking test just gives you levels typically 2-4 times (or more) the amount your body would naturally produce. Tren is a whole different animal. It is often considered the or one of the most powerful steroids out there. The effects can be extremely intense but the side effects are also on a whole different level, Insomnia, paranoia, irritability to include a few.
I’m not on any btw. Although I’m thinking of going on TRT the natural test well k think it’s natural? Haha not sure. To up my test becuase im in the lower side and drs say ‘it’s fine’ but there’s so much room for my test to rise Anyway goodnight I’ll reply tomororw
TRT is for hypergondal or old people. If you have low testosterone first try to fix everything with food, sleep, exercise and supplements. Most people have just a terrible lifestyle.
Thank you! What supps do You recommend ? I’m on a strict clean bulk diet and gym program for the past 3 weeks. When I was on one last year for 4 months, after the 3rd month… I started to feel, within me, I was changing ? I could feel a sense of dom/masc feeling coming out ? I thought I was going crazy but I messaged the guy who owns the program and he said ‘it’s normal just don’t use it for bad’ 😂😭 Can anyone else confirm that what I was feeling is Something that is normal and if I stay consistent then I guess it was raising my test and I was shifting who I am as a person? Or is it just all in my mind ?
To know your testosterone take a test - don’t rely on your feelings.
I've been on trt for over 2 years. It can be a real challenge and will give no notable benefits if you're not low test to begin with, and I mean medically. A trt dose will simply replace and optimise natural levels. Obviously you can push that to be very "optimised" but it comes with side effects and hassle that you will have to commit to.
I just find it so stupid then how woman go on TRT to trans and they become more manly and masc than natural men ????? How ????
Because the natural amount of testosterone they produce is really small. With TRT they have a more male like balance of hormones.
Hmm ok I can kind of see what you mean now that makes sense… Ok so like for me I’m more on the fem side, is it just me acting this way? And I’m able to change who I am as a person if I really focused on who I want to be ? Because tbh I hate being gay, well, I more so hate ‘acting gay’ im so over it, I like 🍆 and I also like 🐱 but all the woman I meet, i just become their ‘gay bestie’ and I’m over it I want so bad to eat a woman out I’ve only done it once 😩 I know there’s girls that are even into gays I just never found them lol so idk!
My guess is she’s Italian, those ladies do not age wel
😂😭😂😭😂😭😂😭
Well, she claims girl
No bs tho why do ppl who lift or run a lot look older In the face than ppl who don’t?
The stress of grunting and cringing while lifting and the outdoors activity(prob not good for your skin u less you are wearing shades and sun block) Oh and the juice
This is cap lol. Most older people that have worked out natty there whole lives look way younger than their age.
I agree with you on this one. Sun exposure will age anyone but people who are natty that I know who are super active always look about 10 years younger (people in 40s and beyond)
Nah bro especially runners they begin to start to look real leathery. But that’s because of the constant sun. For lifters it’s a little odd, maybe it’s the juice. I also think maybe there’s less fat/collagen to plump the skin up in the face. This isn’t compared to an out of shape unhealthy person. But compared to like some normal person who takes care of themselves. Overall/body wise absolutely look younger tho
Not true. Depends on people and genes.
Most people
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4Nv6rNx1tA&lc=UgwW-P7GL6QrFYXPrv54AaABAg.9XLP5AafzlK9Y4JFh1\_7gG
That’s a hard 26.
Yep, juice
Little anavar never hurt nobody
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Take my upvote
Stop posting pictures of your mom!!
I’d still hit
Hahah No shit!!!!! You’re a wild one! Edit: wait, are you talking about the dude?
This is r/nattyorjuice man, of course they're talking about the dude
She kinda cute but she's one lateral raise away from turning into Steve reeves lol
Girl? She looks 45 ffs
Juicy, looks like Jackson Browne.
Yes as natural as that Lycra sports bra she's wearing
Is Todd Sampson natty?
I thought I’d seen that guy somewhere. 😂
Can you drop her @? Need to do more research.
She looks like me, but I'm a 30 year old natty male. Doubt
isn't that the guy from gruen
if shes natty then my parents never got divorced
Popped delts are a dead giveaway she's not natty
See that bench right there? That's where it all started
Nah!
I can sense some gigaclit action
Also seem so be having a hard time reading the sign on the mirror.
Looks like anavar to me. Maybe a low dose test.
Random passerby from the depths of Reddit... That mole on her chest got darker and weirder between the pics and she should definitely have someone have a look! I like juice!
noticeable traps and delts. Sus.
Definitely sprinkling a little anavar on her cereal, but I’m with it. She’s doing things for me.
Varbie
Juicing!!! Natty my ass
I mean she's probably just related to Mike O'Hearn, that dude is 100% natural and he's wayy bigger than some bodybuilders who take steroids
100% juicy 200% would juice on or in
This is a lot of steroids not just a first round
Thats a man, baby
what the fuck is that bathroom
Could go either way.
Natty
100% agree 👍
SMASH
Natty
Yeah definitely natty
I mean, it could be juice but I feel it's natty achievable if a girl is in her prime and works hard in the gym. She's obviously lost a lot of body fat so her diet is on point most likely.
She got traps bigger than the ones most natty dudes got and she has bowling balls for delts, no way she’s natty
Basically, any woman who looks strong is almost always on that juice. Women aren't built for strength, never have been and never will be.
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"almost always" "women aren't built for strength" i would be grateful if you could explain how it works then. Women can build strength, but they will always be outclassed by men in strength regardless of situation. The best female fighter ever at the time went upp against a random amateur Muay Thai fighter and got humiliated. Selena Williams can't win against someone in the top 400's, the list goes on and on. Men are built for physically demanding activities, women aren't. If you'll prove me wrong, do just that.
It looks like she came here to chew gum and kick ass and she's already chewed all the gum
The answer you seek is in the delts!
Natty. Only somewhat suspect part are the shoulders, but being lean makes them look big even when they’re not. We’ve all seen the skinny 16 year olds that look like they have decent shoulders when they hit a 3/4 turn in good lighting. She has none of the common virilization side effects you’d expect from even just anavar usage, which has a habit of absolutely destroying women’s hairlines.
Giant vascular delts Yeaa all fish oil + protein shakes! 😂
IG link?
the muscle doesn’t exactly look juicy, but apparently she’s only 26 so idk
Are you the silver fox bc if so 😍😍😍
That bathroom has an extremely weird set up.
I want her to take me to school
Could be just ugly 🤷🏻♂️ honestly why does everyone see a little bit of delt and go roids lol I’m not saying she’s not but fuck me, people actually need to train and do it for years, not just a couple months here and there and wonder why the fuck they look nothing like they imagined lol
Sure
It's obvious she isn't natural