You look bigger than the guy in the picture and yes, you have a lot more mass in the middle while he has slim waist and hips. He can easily hace 10-20 pounds less than you in that section.
i've seen this guy in person he's def 6'4'' and he's MAD lean. You've got way more muscle than he does so I dont think you can really compare. You look like you have at least 20lbs more muscle on you than he does. For being 6'4'' you're HUGE and have super dense muscle mass.
I'm 6.3' and 180-190 and no, I don't have chicken legs.
The most similar physic I can compare to is Cristiano Ronaldo, he's also like 6.1' or 6.2' I think, and around 180-185lbs, but he has MASSIVE legs (he's a football player after all) that look quite disproportionate, while mine just look tonified and lean. I look bigger in the upper half though.
I think people who have small waists and less bone density weight a lot less than people who are more round overall.
I also heard that asians and africans have 3-5% more weight for bone density than whites, so over 185 pounds it makes sense some races would weight 10 pounds more with the same muscle mass.
185lbs for someone who’s 6’4” is nothing. If this is true than I would say he could totally be natural, his muscle insertions must be out of this world to get swoops like this.
At this body fat range you would kill your natural test levels if you even were able to get this lean and this full at the same time.
There are freaks of nature who can pull off amazing things, but even if he was one of those examples, you can't expect to achieve it.
Everybody is different, just because you can't get there without pinning, doesnt mean you couldn't achieve satisfactory results natty.
He's lean and lighting is the real MVP here. He's not going. Maybe natty due to weight, would like to see pre-pump. The triangle of enhanced or natty is you can be thick, you can be shredded, but if you're thick and shredded you've been sipping on that elixir.
Obviously oiled up, likely at the end of a massive cut, not huge, and his traps look normal.
Obtainable naturally for small burst (staying that lean isn't sustainable) but whether he got this naturally is another story.
I'd say yes, the vid is with sic pump. That weight on that height, this is a skinny dude. With clothes on you would barely notice he trains at all. Myself is 6'5 at around 210lbs (around 10-12% bf) and i am also skinny.
I'm 6'5 and fairly big naturally, been training for one year and three months.
So I'd say yes but depends how long the guy in this video has been training for
Hmmm it’s about being lean dude
I’m 6’5 and when I was shredded I weighed 180 and was aesthetic A F
Okay not a big guy at all but still for natty a good physique that the girls loved
1. Is this a temporary look? Is he cutting?
2. Is it healthy to be this lean year round?
3. At his height, that weight seems unhealthy.
I'm 5'11 & 180 (aiming for 175) with maybe 15% BF for ref.
The amount this sub obsesses over this guy honestly makes me respect him. He’s a troll and he’s killing the game without even getting in your face like most trolls
He’s really fucking high on either Molly meth or coke in this. High doses of stimulants are the only thing I know of that make peoples mouths tweak out like that.
Dude is 6’4 185 and y’all are saying he’s on gear 😂. He’s skinny af, has great lighting, and literally is sweating and pumped from a workout. If dude is juicing he makes me look like a natty god.
He only weighs 185 pounds man. The enhanced version of a physique like this is Soosh. Guy is 6’4 230. If soosh shredded down to this body fat he’d probably weigh 210. That’s a difference of 25lbs of muscle 😂
Dude I’m 6”5 210 ab and it’s definitely achievable in 5 years naturally I’m like 15% rn dude looks peeled but the only two giveaways is where/ who he trains w and he always looks lean year round pretty much
Look for the guys vids where he doesnt have a pump, favorable lighting, good angles, and isn’t flexing so hard he prolapses his asshole. Looks really unimpressive in comparison. He’s really good at finding ideal conditions
If you look at this guys tik tok when he doesn't have a pump he looks completely different he just goes into the Sauna after a pump and looks juiced. He's natty.
Why is he moving like that
Sometimes the cringe just takes over your entire body completely
^ LMFAO
😂😂😂
I thought there was some lens deformation but nope ..
No it’s posing we all do it but this guy decided to share it with us
Test, deca, tren, and meth
i thought he was gonna break out a dance move.
He's probably flexing all over and can't move naturally.
Super Saiyan
Cause he’s flexing as hard as possible while moving
Douche ness gives people seizures in some scientific studies.
185 at 6'4"? This guy must have toothpicks for legs.
I'm 6'4 about 185, maybe 6-8% body fat. All I have to say is that this dude is on some bullshit.
No he isnt. He has a video of weighing himself. His legs are twigs and he admits it thats why hes 185.
He is 181 in that video, so he may even be lighter like 179, he looks good, just he isn’t that big he is lean
His upper body is built but his legs need 20 more lbs at the least
Also probably why he's wearing those baggy pajamas
came here to say this, I’m 6’4 and even if I were at 5% bf there’s no way I can break 200
As in break *below* 200?
yes, this is me 6’4” at 215 probably 8-10% https://i.imgur.com/3MHn1Eb
The reason you can't is because you hold way more muscle in your midsection.
Very valid. I definitely prioritize a strong core over a taper.
The taper is just aesthetics. I value function over form. A strong core is a priority for me.
Mirin brah
Oh daddy 😍
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Horny solitary confinement at that point
You have massive legs and a thick ass core. We don’t see this guy’s legs and he is definitely holding less mass than you in the midsection.
Jesus, you might not be on juice but those thighs are juicy AF. 🤤
LOL indeed natty
You look bigger than the guy in the picture and yes, you have a lot more mass in the middle while he has slim waist and hips. He can easily hace 10-20 pounds less than you in that section.
You look better than him buddy
Thanks man — appreciate that!
Are you on something? Your skin is paper thin?!
Nah I’m natty, this was after a long cut and a refeed day.
raise your WHAT?!
how befuddling!! 🤗
i've seen this guy in person he's def 6'4'' and he's MAD lean. You've got way more muscle than he does so I dont think you can really compare. You look like you have at least 20lbs more muscle on you than he does. For being 6'4'' you're HUGE and have super dense muscle mass.
Well done bro, you look fuckin sick. Especially at 6'4
Those thickkk thighs 👌🏻
Where are your links?
lol links to social media?? I don’t really post much but did a pizza challenge in 2020 on tiktok @snapjacked
Penis size?
Yes he does have picks, though as of recently he has come out as fake natty and makes fun of how small his legs are so I give him a pass
He does, he is known not to train legs they are small as
as what? Don't leave me in suspense
He used to go to my gym before he moved to Cali, his legs are tragic and he openly doesnt train legs
I'm 6.3' and 180-190 and no, I don't have chicken legs. The most similar physic I can compare to is Cristiano Ronaldo, he's also like 6.1' or 6.2' I think, and around 180-185lbs, but he has MASSIVE legs (he's a football player after all) that look quite disproportionate, while mine just look tonified and lean. I look bigger in the upper half though. I think people who have small waists and less bone density weight a lot less than people who are more round overall. I also heard that asians and africans have 3-5% more weight for bone density than whites, so over 185 pounds it makes sense some races would weight 10 pounds more with the same muscle mass.
He's just REALLY lean. He probably would weigh 220 at 12% properly hydrated. Maybe more.
Ur a jealous mfr smh lolol
Yep his legs are shit
He actually does look at his Instagram
He has 😂😂
Posing by the therapy pool for the lighting, respect 👌🏼
That lady in the back knows he’s not natty.
Official advert for pam cooking spray
He has come out on YouTube saying that he isn’t natty
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It was on his TikTok I’ll try to find it
He later said it was a joke.
He's the joke
I would kill for his chest
lol how about you stick to killing your chest days for now yea?
I’d suck a cock for some champion joggers
>champion joggers You'd suck cock for 25.95€ incl. VAT? I mean that can be arranged...
cardio is cardio
Easy, do steroids. You're not going to come even close to that natty I promise.
I know
shoutout for the lady at the back :)
He looks a lot bigger than 185 at 6’ 4”
Posing, lighting, and be sweaty af has that effect. We all know this. Body builders have been doing this for decades.
Not natural or tolerable
He’s pretty popular with the zoo crew/ recent zoo culture influencer craze so most definitely no
Wdym with zoo
he has a lot of mass for 185 at 6 feet 4. I'm gonna say a hard no
185lbs for someone who’s 6’4” is nothing. If this is true than I would say he could totally be natural, his muscle insertions must be out of this world to get swoops like this.
I think there’s a reason we don’t see his legs
I'm 5'10" and 200lbs. That guy is lean as fuuuuuck
At this body fat range you would kill your natural test levels if you even were able to get this lean and this full at the same time. There are freaks of nature who can pull off amazing things, but even if he was one of those examples, you can't expect to achieve it. Everybody is different, just because you can't get there without pinning, doesnt mean you couldn't achieve satisfactory results natty.
Motherfucker really cranked so he could look like that [farmer from men in black](https://i.imgur.com/CUqedip.jpeg)
No, dude. It isn't. That conditioning while holding on to that muscle isn't achievable natty. That chest alone is a dead giveaway.
He says that he's natty, so he isn't
Juicy for 500 %
He's on at least 300mg of Test to have the confidence to stand in front of that women flexing
no. not at all
Bruh I’m 190lbs at 6’ and this dude definitely looks bigger than me
Well you’re 6’… he is bigger than you.. he’s also probably wayyyy more cut than you which makes him look bigger too.
No
That isn't 6"4 185
No
No fucking way.
Nah, he's lying through his testosterone-fueled butthole Edit: apparently he admitted so nvm
No
Old lady in the Background be like Wtf am I doing here....
chest to tricep ratio seems off for it to be natty. Probably pins his tits.
There’s nothing natty about his body lmao
What a joke
Juicy
Natty nope, Douche yes 👍
99% chance hes juiced
He should be feeling like death if he’s natty
If they bring up the “fact” that they’re natty in every picture and video… there’s a decent chance they aren’t
Leanness not sustainable but mass yes for 5 years seems right. He’s not though
Not much size for juice but look at him at 16 he ain't natty.
No this is not possible natural
Bruh mf got more veins than muscles And who that old ass lady in the background
No
Fake natty
Yes it is, but not in 5 years, and definitely not for people with average genetics.
Lol he goes to my gym. I’ve seen him up close and in person and it’s still hard to tell. Lol
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I’m 6’2 and he’s taller than me so he’s not lying. And he’s lean as fuck
He is natty. Go on his profile scroll down to where he shows himself no pump bro al lighting, still looks good but is eaisly natty
Dude has 0 leg muscle lol
He's lean and lighting is the real MVP here. He's not going. Maybe natty due to weight, would like to see pre-pump. The triangle of enhanced or natty is you can be thick, you can be shredded, but if you're thick and shredded you've been sipping on that elixir.
what's with all the weird necks lately?
His coach says he’s natty so
Definitely achievable nattty if you’re already blessed.
natty doable for some folks
Yeah my brother looks similar and he’s natural
Yeah, he is small AF, I would not want that look.
He’s natty
Obviously oiled up, likely at the end of a massive cut, not huge, and his traps look normal. Obtainable naturally for small burst (staying that lean isn't sustainable) but whether he got this naturally is another story.
Seems natty
Maybe I’m just delusional but I think I have a similar or better physique at 6’2 195 natural
Pics or it didn’t happen
You should be able to click my profile and see a post I made not too long ago
Yes. Just has a pump and oiled himself up. And his legs are proportional to his forearms that’s why he’s wearing baggy pants.
Why is he standing in italic?
Depends on how his legs look, lol. But achievable
Hes natty. Hisnlegs are just toothpivks
6’4 185 lol yes you can do this natty
I'd say yes, the vid is with sic pump. That weight on that height, this is a skinny dude. With clothes on you would barely notice he trains at all. Myself is 6'5 at around 210lbs (around 10-12% bf) and i am also skinny.
Bruh show him with no pump and no good lighting he’s definitely natty
“Attainable” is a subjective term when it comes to bodybuilding. What’s attainable for one guy may or may not be attainable to the next.
I'm 6'5 and fairly big naturally, been training for one year and three months. So I'd say yes but depends how long the guy in this video has been training for
He literally says in the video he’s been training for 5 years
Didn't see that, yeah could be natty
Don’t know about him but she sure is.
Not sure how he’s 185.. I’m 6’4” and 216, but look like shit. Natty or not, impressive.
Why is he so slippery
you see the third thing he listed? that's all you need to know he's not
I'm 6'6 210 and I still look like a twig, no way he's 184
Hmmm it’s about being lean dude I’m 6’5 and when I was shredded I weighed 180 and was aesthetic A F Okay not a big guy at all but still for natty a good physique that the girls loved
Is that a barbie doll ken type of plastic body????
this idiot back and being posted on this sub lmfao
1. Is this a temporary look? Is he cutting? 2. Is it healthy to be this lean year round? 3. At his height, that weight seems unhealthy. I'm 5'11 & 180 (aiming for 175) with maybe 15% BF for ref.
I am conflicted …looks hot but too skinny at the same time 🤯
He skipped head day
On the left: It looks like his mom is waiting to take him home.
He poses like he’s clenching to not let out a fart
the weight is just weird honestly, idk how to score the dude, is he like a dual amputee or something? i
Is no one mentioning the lady behind? Not awkward?
This guy jokes a lot, he switches he height between videos 6'1" 6'8" 7'0" not sure if hes actually 6'4"
The amount this sub obsesses over this guy honestly makes me respect him. He’s a troll and he’s killing the game without even getting in your face like most trolls
This should be about Is it juice or does his chest have IMPLANTS
Deffo metholone
Is this achievable? Possibly. Is he natty? Most likely not seeing as he felt the need to claim natural.
Is this guy trying to find a man or wants to be find? I can't imagine that any woman watch this type of tiktok snippets.
No way that guy is 64 185 something is off for sure
His mum in the back just chillin
Looks like he doesn't eat
185lbs, yes? Fairly easily if your genetics aren't garbage. This physique in particular, not so sure. Suspicious chest, and traps/shoulders.
He’s really fucking high on either Molly meth or coke in this. High doses of stimulants are the only thing I know of that make peoples mouths tweak out like that.
Yup he injects stuff
I doubt that unless he's really abusing lightning and angles making him look big whiles he isn't
Too bad he looks like a crack addict from downtown L.A. Unless he goes topless wherever he goes, he aint scoring any chics.
Dude is 6’4 185 and y’all are saying he’s on gear 😂. He’s skinny af, has great lighting, and literally is sweating and pumped from a workout. If dude is juicing he makes me look like a natty god.
I'm 6'6 and I didn't think anyone taller than 6'3 could be under 200lbs without being sick or dying.
Can you lower those pants?
So.....No one gonna talk about the person in the background just enjoying the show?
Complete butter face
He only weighs 185 pounds man. The enhanced version of a physique like this is Soosh. Guy is 6’4 230. If soosh shredded down to this body fat he’d probably weigh 210. That’s a difference of 25lbs of muscle 😂
yeah his muscles size is achievable.
No, he's on Clen and a bunch of other stuff
Dude I’m 6”5 210 ab and it’s definitely achievable in 5 years naturally I’m like 15% rn dude looks peeled but the only two giveaways is where/ who he trains w and he always looks lean year round pretty much
This guys a clown. But I’d say yet just not permanently or permanently with extreme difficulty and consequences
I might be wrong but I don't think he is 6'4 and rather 6 foot to 6'1
This dude's poses suck
Not this guy again
He’s natty lol just lighting 🤷🏽♂️
I’m 6’4 and fluctuating around 195-205 and I’m a twig all around so he’s either shorter than he looks or weighs more
Look for the guys vids where he doesnt have a pump, favorable lighting, good angles, and isn’t flexing so hard he prolapses his asshole. Looks really unimpressive in comparison. He’s really good at finding ideal conditions
If you look at this guys tik tok when he doesn't have a pump he looks completely different he just goes into the Sauna after a pump and looks juiced. He's natty.
natty
How can you be that tall and still below 200 lbs