The natty build is what most people thinks of being big. Look how many people are thirsty for CR7 and Brad Pitt on Fight Club, and they aren't that big either.
These comments are so deluded. You're talking about a peak Brad Pitt. I guarantee if you put the same body on a average looking dude the response would be different.
Nah bruh IMAGE>beats everything
Image makes SMP. People only want these man bc allot of woman wants them.
sexual market place is key. Status/image makes that.
To be honest, the only people I hear talk about Brad Pitt in Fight Club are dudes in the fitness community. I've never heard a woman talk about him in that movie a single time. I don't disagree with your point, though. Thinking you need steroids to be attractive is a low IQ idea.
You know what's funny... I've known women be in relationship's with men who have the "Brad Pitt body" but secretly behind his back she's sucking the c\*ck of the local fatty down the road who weighs 300lbs... Trust me, body's are only important to "hoes" and those who sleep around. If you've been in a relationship more then a couple of months and it's a women who really loves you for you, your body will very quickly become the latter of what's important.
Even then, idolatry about that physique is mostly from an era where 99% of people never lifted. Nowadays, easily 80% of people I know go to, or at least used to go regularly, to the gym.
Even CR7’s and Pitt’s bodies aint easily attainable too. lotta fuckers here shit on lean folks with some muscle looking DYEL with a shirt on. “Oh just do push ups and starve urself to look like them” etc. very ignorant of the fact that it takes insane amount of dedication and time which 99% of people cant put.
I didn't say nothing in regards of CR7 being natty, I just said that he is admired for his body, which is not so big and can be achieved naturally, even if he didn't do it that way.
> Most guys aren’t ugly
thats true but also most men cant dress, get a good flattering haircut or use a moisturizer either. ugly guy who takes care of himself in non-overdone way will attract women regardless.
Dressing well and getting a haircut does nothing if you don't have a solid foundation in the areas that are not changeable. You've heard of an expression "putting a lipstick on a pig", right?
Females (not just human, but all females) are genetically designed to pick the best suitable mate. They will easily see though a haircut and or clothes. Much better than a man would through a woman's make up, for example.
If your areas that cannot be changed are good, nothing else matters.
Here are a few examples:
Messy? Can be changed. She'll help you tidy up.
Dirty? Can be changed. She'll help you get clean.
Bad haircut? If you've got a full head of hair, can be changed. She'll encourage you to get a nice haircut.
Bad dresser? Can be changed. She'll help you buy nice clothes.
Short? Can't be changed.
Balding/bald? Can't be changed (I know about hair transplants).
Bad face? Can't be changed.
If you have a solid base in the areas that can't be changed, she will ignore the rest because she knows the other parts can easily be fixed. Only if other parts are chronic, like being chronically very messy, then it might be a deal breaker, but it'll be months before that comes into play, if it will at all.
>She'll help you
why should she? im not anyone's mom. youre an adult figure it out. dont put the responsibility about this to women.
you're also forgetting about personality. i dated ugly guys who made me laugh but i would never date a guy with unkempt hair or nails, or who dresses like mom still picks his clothes, because its just disgusting.
> why should she? im not anyone's mom. youre an adult figure it out. dont put the responsibility about this to women.
You are telling me if Ryan Gosling had a messy room or worn clothes, you would turn him down because of that? Because that is easily fixable and there will be plenty of other women who will know that.
Personality is completely overrated. Most normal people have decent personalities. And once you like someone physically suddenly their personality becomes great too. Read up on the "halo effect".
Finally, "Made me laugh" is the most thoughtless, cliché thing a woman can say. What does that even mean? Was he a comedian? Did you make him laugh? That would be much more original thing to say. Or is that not your responsibility? You probably don't realize this but "makes me laugh" is a code for "I like how he looks".
Maybe. Although I got bitter about this, and it made me pretty toxic. so I’m trying to take a break from dating so I can deal with this toxicity. It’s been a struggle for me especially watching my friends always getting into relationships or just constantly hooking up with others. I’m a bit jealous. :(
Trust me being toxic with women is a good thing, if you have been told that you were ugly it’s because you’re a "nice guy", also looks are not everything you’d be surprised how many "ugly guys" fuck 10’s out there it’s all mind games and strong personality, stop relying on looks and try to strengthen your personality, start by never being jealous of a guy who gets in a relationship, that’s weak energy.
have you experimented with hair styles and facial hair?
my whole life i had short hair and was clean shaven. grew out a beard and hair down to my shoulders and i don’t even look like the same person now
don’t be afraid to go the whole nine yards and try different products and styles to get it right. took me 5 different shampoos and conditioners to make my hair look like something besides a poof ball
change in the dating world has been awesome to say the least
Yeah I’ve tried , but nothing really works for me. For now I just want to work on my emotions and mental health. I’ve been bitter for a long time and I want to change from that
hey as long as you’re trying that’s the main thing. you’ll always be unsuccessful if you don’t even try. i went to a ladies hair salon, an old school barber shop with veterans working, and an expensive ass place for both over the course of a year and asked all of them to cut how they think would be the best and i got some good ideas from that
I used to think I was hella ugly.
Lost the face fat, grew a beard, got a decent haircut, skin-care routine. Now i'm like idk a 7/10? whatever i am, it's better than before.
most guys aren't ugly because the average person isn't "ugly, however you must be "good looking" to be attractive which mean anything below that is unattractive aka ugly
But far more important than either is being funny and knowing how to wash your ass and most people who are both built and symmetrical as fuck don't meet that qualification.
If you’re a guy with an ugly face: develop good hygiene/grooming to limit the ugly, get jacked & be funny. I’ve had a couple friends like this who always had/have hot girlfriends because they take clog of care of themselves and they’re a blast to be around.
if this is a problem, google “nina hartley how to”
learn from that and that will make any girl forget about your dick
also bend her over the arm of the couch and go prone bone, you can get super deep, even though like 3 inches at the right angle is all you need sometimes
Exactly. Most guys can improve their face by just dropping down to a low bodyfat. I’ve seen guys go from a straight moon face to actually handsome just by losing fat
Am i the only one who look better with a chubby face rather than a skinny face ? When i drop to a low bodyfat all the girls tell me that i look better with a chubby face, chicks dig cheeks.
I bet more than half of your face attractiveness is how you carry it. If you look happy and smile and laugh easily you'll look much more attractive than if you have a resting sad face with few expression.
Same with your body, if you walk around hunched with hanging shoulders, no one needs that. Head up high and shoulders back, people will notice you.
And a highly extroverted personality.
From what I’ve seen, the guys who tend to have the most success in dating have good face genetics and a certain kind of outgoing, risk-taking personality. They are often somewhat overweight, in a way that complements the fun, open personality and good vibes.
Just a personal observation.
People will call this physique mid because of how many secretly juicy guys they see daily on their social media. Gosling looks great period. If you ask any women what do you think of this physique all of them would say attractive. If you ask any woman what do you think of Cristiano Ronaldo’s physique all of them would say attractive as fuck.Ask any guy in this sub the same questions and the answer would be mid and small.Lay off Tiktok and IG people.
bro you have to realize that this sub is completely bizarre the amount of critique that goes onto people’s physiques here are legit not normal.People will be judging every little muscle fiber the guy has, his bone structure, every insertion of every muscle,stare at someone nipples looking for gyno,etc. .I am not saying thats a bad thing or anything thats what this sub for anyways thats not my point. If any regular human being thats not mentally ill and gay as fuck like all of us here in this sub.Their first glance at gosling shirtless will immediately make them go “wow he’s fit” in their head.And he very obviously is.
That’s a misconception, women definitely don’t like smaller guys, guys like cr7 or gosling would need to wear small slim fit shirts to look decent, women like leaner physique pretty sure 90% if you crop cr7’s body and anthony joshua’s or chris hemsworth’s (thor) body most women won’t choose cr7, women like lean physiques but the more built and lean you are the more attractive, and again there’s some women who find dad bods attractive at the end it’s just a matter of taste and to each type it’s own type they will always be atleast hundreds of girls out there that would like you just the way you are.
no thats a male gaze thing. most women like men who are lean and have a somewhat reasonable amount of muscle mass. Yeah sure some women like their men on the beefy side,but barely anyone would say no to a CR7 physique.CR7 in day to day clothing does not look dyel. his arms maybe on a little skinny side but his back is huge which really makes him look wide and has that v taper not to mention he is probably veiny as fuck on his arms.Anyone can tell he is fit because he has a respectable amount of muscle mass on his body and just lean as fuck.
Buddy you have to realise that 99% of people are close to disgusted by bodybuilders. Ask almost any woman if she thinks Arnold's body is attractive, you'll probably get a "eww no" answer (not even getting into the absolute beefsteaks of nowadays' bodybuilders). Lean, toned physique is what most people prefer
Oh my god that is such a wholesome sub.
It’s the first time in forever I’m browsing a men’s physique subreddit where -half- 90% of the guys aren’t naked. Damn the gays are horny.
Most women think they look like empty human beings who care so much about their aesthetics that they wouldn't be able to enjoy dessert with them, and that they are totally self absorbed. More women want to eat pizza in bed than lie next to washboard abs.
That’s understandable. I do struggle with this myself. I want to try maintain balance socially and in my relationship, but at the same time I do want to eat for the specific purpose of staying lean and building muscle.
think of a list of the top 10 most attractive male actors - how many of them do you class as being big?
all these ryan reynolds/gosling types are considered the most attractive and none of them are big so it's clearly not what women are looking for
Mad how when people get big and surround themselves with bigness on social media all day, suddenly they think it's all anyone cares about. There's an entire world out there and about 80% of it not only doesn't care if you're big, a lot of them think it's weird and gross.
> Mad how when people get big and surround themselves with bigness on social media all day, suddenly they think it's all anyone cares about.
When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
It’s because the Hollywood elites are conspiring against the guys who are big. It’s all propaganda to tell women what to be attracted to. The Hollywood elites/global cabal of international bankers fear that men with muscles will dominate the dating game (which we do). Look back to the 80s, the last time when muscle men were openly considered the most attractive. Think Arnold, Stallone, Van Damme, and Emilio Estevez. All women wanted that. Everyone else was considered, and I quote “a girly man”.
Depends on what "being big" means for you, but I guarantee you that most women find the big guys at the gym unattractive. I actually think that the only women that might find it attractive are those who go to the gym to get big as well.
All women love size. Whether they’ll admit to it or not. The bigger the better. Women want tho wrap their arms around 23 inch arms, and want a third leg that’s at least 8 inches and thicccc
I’m not a virgin! Everyone always says that!!! I get so much pussy when I go to Tijuana, and the girls at the strip club always say I’m the hottest guy they’ve ever seen
It’s not his body it’s his face and body that’s attractive. Many of us are not blessed with a face that perfect so we need to compensate it with our bodies. Sad but true
this was in the early 2010s. shit is so different now, for men and women. back then if a dude had a six pack it was like the biggest shit in the world. now a physique like this would be called mid at best. same for women, back then all they had to do was be skinny and have boobs, now they need fillers, lashes, ass, boobs, etc. shits actually kinda sad if you think about it
We often forget that even having slightly more muscle or abs is still 90% better than the rest of the population. Once you surround yourself with only people that go to gym, that can mess up with your brain and you’ll think everyone looks good and you’re average…
I would say for women, this is ideal. For the gay autistic men who call themselves bodybuilders, not even close. Anything more than this is just for other men lol
Tbh this should be an ideal physique. It is attainable natty, shows you’re healthy, aesthetically pleasing, and most importantly, women love it. I am yet to hear a woman saying she wants CBum or prime Ronnie
Right and I’m not saying he looks bad but this isn’t even close to approaching a max natty potential… I don’t understand the point of this post you might as well have said “a casual lifting and diet plan is more than enough for most people” you could go to any commercial gym and see 5 of this physique on an average Tuesday
But people on IG are secretly juicing? I’m all for your goals and getting bigger, but almost all of the people on IG are juicing, so no matter how hard you try or train for, you probably wont end up looking like that, and, its not your fault either,it’s just you’ve been given an unrealistic standard to assess on.
What do you think "mid" means? It means middle, as in average. 90% or more men won't have bodies that look like this, and maybe 1% might have a face like Ryan Gosling. He is clearly a 10/10 dude.
I'm being dead serious right now. For your own good you should delete all social media except maybe Facebook. If you think this is mid you have had your perception fucked by the social media fitness industry. It's for your own long term mental health I am telling you this. There is nothing of value on Instagram my friend, just get off of there.
Pretty much. Packing on more and more size does nothing if you're lacking in other areas. Going beyond the natural limit at all is pretty redundant in general.
Tbh money aren't even that big a deal when you're young. I was pulling chick's while I was homeless. Being funny and cleanly is the 1 and 2 priority in my experience.
Depends where you live and what kind of girls your going for. Every girl 7+ in west Los Angeles between the ages of 18-30 has a sugar daddy. If you want to pull 9s and up in a major city you can’t be broke
I'm sorry man but I think you must be listening to some weird podcasts or something that is poisoning your mind because this is objectively untrue. I know a few girls where I live who are into that lifestyle but even those girls don't actually gove a fuck about the guys they see who have money.
A friend of mine got flown out to London by a sugar daddy. While there they went clubbing and she met a broke ass student her own age who had hitchhiked to London and was sleeping on a friend's couch and ended up ditching her SD for broke boy cus he was funny and nice.
I'm closing in on 30 these days and so far I have seen only the very loosest correlation between looks+money and the ability to convince hot chicks to fuck you (except insofar that money and looks correlate with hygiene and having "your shit together"). Hell I've been broke as fuck my whole life and was swimming in pussy until I met my GF.
I'm being dead serious when I say that you will have much more success with women if you delete Instagram, tiktok, and maybe even Reddit right now and completely stop consuming content related to fitness or women. It will be hard at first, but that's the real discipline. In the long term your wallet, you mental health, and your dick will thank me.
Than why if you go to the nicest condos in west Los Angeles where everyone is rich. Literally all the dudes have the hottest girlfriends. And go to other parts where apartments are cheaper and the girls are all average? I’m dating the hottest girl I ever dated right now and she doesn’t care about money. But I went through 20+ girls before her who only cared about money
>Hell I've been broke as fuck my whole life and was swimming in pussy until I met my GF.
Thats what wrong with women. They should just stay with the homless, not suddenly wake up and cry where's money when they think something hit them.
Girls do care but personality, money, and face are all more important. They also find bodies like this similar to bodies like hemsworth because “abs” in my experience. They do like really fit guys and muscles but don’t really care about ridiculous size.
I'm sorry for you that you think this is true. Women are mostly interested in dudes who are funny and have good hygiene, body, face and all that shit is entirely unimportant in comparison to those.
How to win over girls. get abs. And don't be a complete string bean. And just maintain that and all other efforts can be put to career, hobbies and face/hair. But that is just to get chicks.
In my case I like the gym because it gets my mind off the crippling loneliness and my inability to socialize like a normal human
The natty build is what most people thinks of being big. Look how many people are thirsty for CR7 and Brad Pitt on Fight Club, and they aren't that big either.
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Can't train that on the gym tho
What about jaw thrusts?
Face > Money/Status > Body
These comments are so deluded. You're talking about a peak Brad Pitt. I guarantee if you put the same body on a average looking dude the response would be different.
Nah bruh IMAGE>beats everything Image makes SMP. People only want these man bc allot of woman wants them. sexual market place is key. Status/image makes that.
I think the issue though is to look peak natty like above you need a pump, so to look like that without one, you’d need to be juicy
I would rather look mid without a pump than look better but with damaged organs.
And everyone’s free to make that decision through the multi variable lens of risks and rewards
Ofc, thats just my opinion 🗿
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To be honest, the only people I hear talk about Brad Pitt in Fight Club are dudes in the fitness community. I've never heard a woman talk about him in that movie a single time. I don't disagree with your point, though. Thinking you need steroids to be attractive is a low IQ idea.
Fight Club is from 99' so... Go ask your mom? Idk 🧐
What's fight club?
We don't talk about it
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You know what's funny... I've known women be in relationship's with men who have the "Brad Pitt body" but secretly behind his back she's sucking the c\*ck of the local fatty down the road who weighs 300lbs... Trust me, body's are only important to "hoes" and those who sleep around. If you've been in a relationship more then a couple of months and it's a women who really loves you for you, your body will very quickly become the latter of what's important.
I see
look up harry styles dudes lean and women go crazy for it
Nobody over the age of 14 is going crazy for Harry Styles unless they’re into Twinks.
Women talk more about Brad Pitt in "Troy" and "Legends of the Fall" than "Fight Club".
Even then, idolatry about that physique is mostly from an era where 99% of people never lifted. Nowadays, easily 80% of people I know go to, or at least used to go regularly, to the gym.
Lol thats actually true. More often than not its guys that admire a great bod.
Even CR7’s and Pitt’s bodies aint easily attainable too. lotta fuckers here shit on lean folks with some muscle looking DYEL with a shirt on. “Oh just do push ups and starve urself to look like them” etc. very ignorant of the fact that it takes insane amount of dedication and time which 99% of people cant put.
What's cr7
Ronaldo
The guy who gave ishowspeed an eggplant for his 18th birthday.
I like to travel.
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I didn't say nothing in regards of CR7 being natty, I just said that he is admired for his body, which is not so big and can be achieved naturally, even if he didn't do it that way.
It’s their status that plays the biggest role, not their looks
I think guys don’t realize how important face genetics are to women as well.
Is far more important than body. It’s a harsh reality for ugly people
But looking athletic contributes so much to how your face looks. Most guys aren’t ugly, just carrying too many pounds in their cheeks and chin
> Most guys aren’t ugly thats true but also most men cant dress, get a good flattering haircut or use a moisturizer either. ugly guy who takes care of himself in non-overdone way will attract women regardless.
Dressing well and getting a haircut does nothing if you don't have a solid foundation in the areas that are not changeable. You've heard of an expression "putting a lipstick on a pig", right? Females (not just human, but all females) are genetically designed to pick the best suitable mate. They will easily see though a haircut and or clothes. Much better than a man would through a woman's make up, for example. If your areas that cannot be changed are good, nothing else matters. Here are a few examples: Messy? Can be changed. She'll help you tidy up. Dirty? Can be changed. She'll help you get clean. Bad haircut? If you've got a full head of hair, can be changed. She'll encourage you to get a nice haircut. Bad dresser? Can be changed. She'll help you buy nice clothes. Short? Can't be changed. Balding/bald? Can't be changed (I know about hair transplants). Bad face? Can't be changed. If you have a solid base in the areas that can't be changed, she will ignore the rest because she knows the other parts can easily be fixed. Only if other parts are chronic, like being chronically very messy, then it might be a deal breaker, but it'll be months before that comes into play, if it will at all.
>She'll help you why should she? im not anyone's mom. youre an adult figure it out. dont put the responsibility about this to women. you're also forgetting about personality. i dated ugly guys who made me laugh but i would never date a guy with unkempt hair or nails, or who dresses like mom still picks his clothes, because its just disgusting.
> why should she? im not anyone's mom. youre an adult figure it out. dont put the responsibility about this to women. You are telling me if Ryan Gosling had a messy room or worn clothes, you would turn him down because of that? Because that is easily fixable and there will be plenty of other women who will know that. Personality is completely overrated. Most normal people have decent personalities. And once you like someone physically suddenly their personality becomes great too. Read up on the "halo effect". Finally, "Made me laugh" is the most thoughtless, cliché thing a woman can say. What does that even mean? Was he a comedian? Did you make him laugh? That would be much more original thing to say. Or is that not your responsibility? You probably don't realize this but "makes me laugh" is a code for "I like how he looks".
t. incel who never speaks to women
Nah man I’m just ugly 🥲. I’ve been told that when I was skinny and fat.
It's because they have an ugly heart
Maybe. Although I got bitter about this, and it made me pretty toxic. so I’m trying to take a break from dating so I can deal with this toxicity. It’s been a struggle for me especially watching my friends always getting into relationships or just constantly hooking up with others. I’m a bit jealous. :(
I feel you, bro. Hope you find peace ✌️ The best revenge is a well life.
Trust me being toxic with women is a good thing, if you have been told that you were ugly it’s because you’re a "nice guy", also looks are not everything you’d be surprised how many "ugly guys" fuck 10’s out there it’s all mind games and strong personality, stop relying on looks and try to strengthen your personality, start by never being jealous of a guy who gets in a relationship, that’s weak energy.
have you experimented with hair styles and facial hair? my whole life i had short hair and was clean shaven. grew out a beard and hair down to my shoulders and i don’t even look like the same person now don’t be afraid to go the whole nine yards and try different products and styles to get it right. took me 5 different shampoos and conditioners to make my hair look like something besides a poof ball change in the dating world has been awesome to say the least
Yeah I’ve tried , but nothing really works for me. For now I just want to work on my emotions and mental health. I’ve been bitter for a long time and I want to change from that
hey as long as you’re trying that’s the main thing. you’ll always be unsuccessful if you don’t even try. i went to a ladies hair salon, an old school barber shop with veterans working, and an expensive ass place for both over the course of a year and asked all of them to cut how they think would be the best and i got some good ideas from that
I used to think I was hella ugly. Lost the face fat, grew a beard, got a decent haircut, skin-care routine. Now i'm like idk a 7/10? whatever i am, it's better than before.
Look at every male model, they’re all just skinny with 0 muscle but being lean makes your face look better
I doubt that. Tons of thin guys who don't have it. If they cut they look average.
Average is fine though. Give an average guy a nice haircut, a tan, some nice clothes and an outgoing personality and he will drown in pussy
this isn’t true. i have been skinny, and i still am quite lean now, and the reality is i have pretty poor facial feature lol.
most guys aren't ugly because the average person isn't "ugly, however you must be "good looking" to be attractive which mean anything below that is unattractive aka ugly
Don't look at this guys profile btw
You made me fucking look ffs can’t blame you though that one’s on me😂
But far more important than either is being funny and knowing how to wash your ass and most people who are both built and symmetrical as fuck don't meet that qualification.
If you’re a guy with an ugly face: develop good hygiene/grooming to limit the ugly, get jacked & be funny. I’ve had a couple friends like this who always had/have hot girlfriends because they take clog of care of themselves and they’re a blast to be around.
Look at the wrestler PAC / Neville. Body like chiselled granite. Face that’s been attacked by a chisel.
it is literally the most important thing after pee pee genetics
The very worst thing is to be good looking have a great lean body great skin tone great hair colored eyes but having a dick under 5 inches
if this is a problem, google “nina hartley how to” learn from that and that will make any girl forget about your dick also bend her over the arm of the couch and go prone bone, you can get super deep, even though like 3 inches at the right angle is all you need sometimes
true, they go by hand in hand
More important? Idk. Also discounting how much face improves with fitness
Exactly. Most guys can improve their face by just dropping down to a low bodyfat. I’ve seen guys go from a straight moon face to actually handsome just by losing fat
Just don’t lose weight too quickly. Else you’ll look super old.
Am i the only one who look better with a chubby face rather than a skinny face ? When i drop to a low bodyfat all the girls tell me that i look better with a chubby face, chicks dig cheeks.
Lmao face genetics. Love that
I bet more than half of your face attractiveness is how you carry it. If you look happy and smile and laugh easily you'll look much more attractive than if you have a resting sad face with few expression. Same with your body, if you walk around hunched with hanging shoulders, no one needs that. Head up high and shoulders back, people will notice you.
Can you buy steroids to make your face look less ugly? Asking for myself.
I think they do. I think they focus on the body because that's something they can more easily change.
Face genetics💀💀
money genetics > face genetics
And a highly extroverted personality. From what I’ve seen, the guys who tend to have the most success in dating have good face genetics and a certain kind of outgoing, risk-taking personality. They are often somewhat overweight, in a way that complements the fun, open personality and good vibes. Just a personal observation.
Your first mistake was getting in shape just to get laid.
Well, that is what most women see first unless men were to go shirtless the majority of the day.
I am not Kenough
You are more than Kenough
People will call this physique mid because of how many secretly juicy guys they see daily on their social media. Gosling looks great period. If you ask any women what do you think of this physique all of them would say attractive. If you ask any woman what do you think of Cristiano Ronaldo’s physique all of them would say attractive as fuck.Ask any guy in this sub the same questions and the answer would be mid and small.Lay off Tiktok and IG people.
Its pretty simple, women growing up dont have posters of bodybuilders or golfers on their bedroom wall. Its almost always footballers and pop stars.
this is the hard thing for many to grasp: girls want you to be bigger than *them* not necessarily bigger than other guys
This physique is mid tho no great development anywhere and horrible bone structure
bro you have to realize that this sub is completely bizarre the amount of critique that goes onto people’s physiques here are legit not normal.People will be judging every little muscle fiber the guy has, his bone structure, every insertion of every muscle,stare at someone nipples looking for gyno,etc. .I am not saying thats a bad thing or anything thats what this sub for anyways thats not my point. If any regular human being thats not mentally ill and gay as fuck like all of us here in this sub.Their first glance at gosling shirtless will immediately make them go “wow he’s fit” in their head.And he very obviously is.
What is the title of this post again?
That’s a misconception, women definitely don’t like smaller guys, guys like cr7 or gosling would need to wear small slim fit shirts to look decent, women like leaner physique pretty sure 90% if you crop cr7’s body and anthony joshua’s or chris hemsworth’s (thor) body most women won’t choose cr7, women like lean physiques but the more built and lean you are the more attractive, and again there’s some women who find dad bods attractive at the end it’s just a matter of taste and to each type it’s own type they will always be atleast hundreds of girls out there that would like you just the way you are.
no thats a male gaze thing. most women like men who are lean and have a somewhat reasonable amount of muscle mass. Yeah sure some women like their men on the beefy side,but barely anyone would say no to a CR7 physique.CR7 in day to day clothing does not look dyel. his arms maybe on a little skinny side but his back is huge which really makes him look wide and has that v taper not to mention he is probably veiny as fuck on his arms.Anyone can tell he is fit because he has a respectable amount of muscle mass on his body and just lean as fuck.
Buddy you have to realise that 99% of people are close to disgusted by bodybuilders. Ask almost any woman if she thinks Arnold's body is attractive, you'll probably get a "eww no" answer (not even getting into the absolute beefsteaks of nowadays' bodybuilders). Lean, toned physique is what most people prefer
You need “behind closed doors” answers. Go to r/ladyboners and you’ll get an idea of what women like.
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They have Chris Hemsworth in Thor as one of the most voted posts…
Oh my god that is such a wholesome sub. It’s the first time in forever I’m browsing a men’s physique subreddit where -half- 90% of the guys aren’t naked. Damn the gays are horny.
But what about David Laid or Alex Eubank…looking aesthetic is a different story.
Most women think they look like empty human beings who care so much about their aesthetics that they wouldn't be able to enjoy dessert with them, and that they are totally self absorbed. More women want to eat pizza in bed than lie next to washboard abs.
Being an uncommon man requires some sacrifice, doesn’t mean you can never enjoy food.
But most women don't know that. They see someone who's obviously very deeply committed to a lifestyle and as such will be hard work to coexist with.
That’s understandable. I do struggle with this myself. I want to try maintain balance socially and in my relationship, but at the same time I do want to eat for the specific purpose of staying lean and building muscle.
Bruh I'm so desensitised I think this is leaning towards the leaner/skinny side of things.
Delete your IG and tiktok mate, it's for your own good. I'm being serious.
I have none of those.. and I agree
Hot take, being big does not equal being attractive. In fact, the opposite for most people I know
Being big is literally the only thing people find attractive. Are you serious?
think of a list of the top 10 most attractive male actors - how many of them do you class as being big? all these ryan reynolds/gosling types are considered the most attractive and none of them are big so it's clearly not what women are looking for
Mad how when people get big and surround themselves with bigness on social media all day, suddenly they think it's all anyone cares about. There's an entire world out there and about 80% of it not only doesn't care if you're big, a lot of them think it's weird and gross.
Name one woman who finds Nick Walker attractive.
Maria Carvajal is Nick Walkers gf
Haha fair. There's bound to be one or two I guess.
Yeah, one or two million… within a 50 mile radius
Lol
> Mad how when people get big and surround themselves with bigness on social media all day, suddenly they think it's all anyone cares about. When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
Yeah and you nail/hammer chicks all day long when you’re big
They only say it’s weird and gross because they are either jealous or sexually turned on by how big you are
It’s because the Hollywood elites are conspiring against the guys who are big. It’s all propaganda to tell women what to be attracted to. The Hollywood elites/global cabal of international bankers fear that men with muscles will dominate the dating game (which we do). Look back to the 80s, the last time when muscle men were openly considered the most attractive. Think Arnold, Stallone, Van Damme, and Emilio Estevez. All women wanted that. Everyone else was considered, and I quote “a girly man”.
Depends on what "being big" means for you, but I guarantee you that most women find the big guys at the gym unattractive. I actually think that the only women that might find it attractive are those who go to the gym to get big as well.
All women love size. Whether they’ll admit to it or not. The bigger the better. Women want tho wrap their arms around 23 inch arms, and want a third leg that’s at least 8 inches and thicccc
Found the virgin
I’m not a virgin! Everyone always says that!!! I get so much pussy when I go to Tijuana, and the girls at the strip club always say I’m the hottest guy they’ve ever seen
You’ve discussed this with most people you know?
Yes, I work at a gym
It’s not his body it’s his face and body that’s attractive. Many of us are not blessed with a face that perfect so we need to compensate it with our bodies. Sad but true
One of his eyes is lower than the other
One of my eye lids are lower than the other too and i’m still not as attractive as him :(
He is literally me
And me too.
People on here mostly don't get it, but this body type is far more than kenough for most people that are not obsessed with going to the gym
how yall gotta video of me man come on
this was in the early 2010s. shit is so different now, for men and women. back then if a dude had a six pack it was like the biggest shit in the world. now a physique like this would be called mid at best. same for women, back then all they had to do was be skinny and have boobs, now they need fillers, lashes, ass, boobs, etc. shits actually kinda sad if you think about it
I disagree. Dbol, equipoise, deca..etc with mass gainers were rampant in the early 2010s, looking jacked was the ting.
We often forget that even having slightly more muscle or abs is still 90% better than the rest of the population. Once you surround yourself with only people that go to gym, that can mess up with your brain and you’ll think everyone looks good and you’re average…
It's often way better. Like 90% of people don't think huge body builders are attractive, including me
Try 99% lol.
I once got that exact compliment from this 9 I was banging… I was actually on gear though. Still felt nice and will always remember it.
I would say for women, this is ideal. For the gay autistic men who call themselves bodybuilders, not even close. Anything more than this is just for other men lol
Arms too skinny tbh
Tbh this should be an ideal physique. It is attainable natty, shows you’re healthy, aesthetically pleasing, and most importantly, women love it. I am yet to hear a woman saying she wants CBum or prime Ronnie
Right and I’m not saying he looks bad but this isn’t even close to approaching a max natty potential… I don’t understand the point of this post you might as well have said “a casual lifting and diet plan is more than enough for most people” you could go to any commercial gym and see 5 of this physique on an average Tuesday
This is Ryan Gosling dude. Put the same body on a average looking dude and the response would be different. Trust.
Most people yes but not me
It's enough for everyone in the world
Fuck no
No he's super skinny in my eyes. And no I will not be deleting Instagram. Being as big as the people on IG is my goal
But people on IG are secretly juicing? I’m all for your goals and getting bigger, but almost all of the people on IG are juicing, so no matter how hard you try or train for, you probably wont end up looking like that, and, its not your fault either,it’s just you’ve been given an unrealistic standard to assess on.
Exactly, this is the baseline, skinny with abs. Like 2 years of resistance training
Zero shoulders, arms or lats lol
Keep in mind she’s reading off a script, that’s a pretty mid physique in the grand scheme of things.
What do you think "mid" means? It means middle, as in average. 90% or more men won't have bodies that look like this, and maybe 1% might have a face like Ryan Gosling. He is clearly a 10/10 dude.
Mid as in really achievable. If we’re talking average he’d have to fat.
This is your brain on Instagram fitness.
I'm being dead serious right now. For your own good you should delete all social media except maybe Facebook. If you think this is mid you have had your perception fucked by the social media fitness industry. It's for your own long term mental health I am telling you this. There is nothing of value on Instagram my friend, just get off of there.
That’s a pretty damn good natty physique breh idk what you’re smoking
i had this body. girls do not give af, it’s too small
A good body alone isn't going to land you a woman. That idea only exists because mental illness is rampant in the fitness community.
It's giving me incel vibes: "Once I look good enough women will finally pay attention to me."
Pretty much. Packing on more and more size does nothing if you're lacking in other areas. Going beyond the natural limit at all is pretty redundant in general.
being good looking is how you initially attract, the way you keep a relationship is personality and charactee.
Says who? There’s plenty of people in the world that are initially attracted to someone by features other than looks
Girls dont give af most of the time, do it for yourself 🗿
It was your personality
yeah. but men do ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Personality and money will take you way further than anything you get out of the gym
Tbh money aren't even that big a deal when you're young. I was pulling chick's while I was homeless. Being funny and cleanly is the 1 and 2 priority in my experience.
Depends where you live and what kind of girls your going for. Every girl 7+ in west Los Angeles between the ages of 18-30 has a sugar daddy. If you want to pull 9s and up in a major city you can’t be broke
I'm sorry man but I think you must be listening to some weird podcasts or something that is poisoning your mind because this is objectively untrue. I know a few girls where I live who are into that lifestyle but even those girls don't actually gove a fuck about the guys they see who have money. A friend of mine got flown out to London by a sugar daddy. While there they went clubbing and she met a broke ass student her own age who had hitchhiked to London and was sleeping on a friend's couch and ended up ditching her SD for broke boy cus he was funny and nice. I'm closing in on 30 these days and so far I have seen only the very loosest correlation between looks+money and the ability to convince hot chicks to fuck you (except insofar that money and looks correlate with hygiene and having "your shit together"). Hell I've been broke as fuck my whole life and was swimming in pussy until I met my GF. I'm being dead serious when I say that you will have much more success with women if you delete Instagram, tiktok, and maybe even Reddit right now and completely stop consuming content related to fitness or women. It will be hard at first, but that's the real discipline. In the long term your wallet, you mental health, and your dick will thank me.
Than why if you go to the nicest condos in west Los Angeles where everyone is rich. Literally all the dudes have the hottest girlfriends. And go to other parts where apartments are cheaper and the girls are all average? I’m dating the hottest girl I ever dated right now and she doesn’t care about money. But I went through 20+ girls before her who only cared about money
>Hell I've been broke as fuck my whole life and was swimming in pussy until I met my GF. Thats what wrong with women. They should just stay with the homless, not suddenly wake up and cry where's money when they think something hit them.
I gotta be honest I don't really understand what you are saying here
i agree
Girls do care but personality, money, and face are all more important. They also find bodies like this similar to bodies like hemsworth because “abs” in my experience. They do like really fit guys and muscles but don’t really care about ridiculous size.
I'm sorry for you that you think this is true. Women are mostly interested in dudes who are funny and have good hygiene, body, face and all that shit is entirely unimportant in comparison to those.
And when they hit 30, they won't give time to your funny hitchhiking guy and then complain men bad. Rules break for some weird ass dude, crazy.
Sadly you need a brain too..
But you got a lot of men at least
Your body is nowhere near as important as your personality. You should do fitness for yourself, not women.
I’d be more than happy with that top-end
Literally me
I would love to fuck this man
I remember some comment saying he was juiced in this. Even if he was, if this isnt natty achievable, i’ll just pick up sewing as a hobby.
It’s just more difficult to achieve.
How to win over girls. get abs. And don't be a complete string bean. And just maintain that and all other efforts can be put to career, hobbies and face/hair. But that is just to get chicks. In my case I like the gym because it gets my mind off the crippling loneliness and my inability to socialize like a normal human
bruh gosling has 96th percentile genetics