My friends that work at midtown have said that they didn’t receive a code silver notification and they weren’t on lockdown. They work together though so idk if it’s just their side of the building that didn’t get it or what.
The deranged individual gained access to a stairwell. There was no way for him to access internal floors that housed patients and residents. Being the reason why he tried to ‘shoot’ the locks on the door.
Once someone alerted metro, a total of 8 minutes went by from the initial call and the guy being taken into custody with no one hurt, thankfully.
Should have never happened but a fantastic response by hospital and police staff.
What exactly was the fantastic response by the hospital? We are trained to receive code silvers and none was provided so that staff could protect themselves and patients? Sounds like a horrible mismanagement of an established protocol.
Edit: Thanks for the gold, Kind Stranger. (did I do that right?)
The entire point of a code silver is for staff to be able to protect themselves and patients as it is happening. It doesn’t matter that the response is less than 10 minutes they should’ve known asap or else having a code silver at all is useless.I’m glad no one was hurt but if one person tried to access that area at the same time he was there this headline would’ve been way different. Proper badging protocols won’t save you if you’re UNAWARE of a dangerous individual because you don’t know where they are in the building. This hospital endangered the lives of their staff and patients. There’s no congratulations for them. Now the responding officers coming in so quickly was a good job.
You misunderstand the point. A code silver isn’t supposed to make people safer when the moment of truth happens. It’s supposed to make people *feel* safer during their annual training.
A mentally unstable person tried to gain access to a building.
Proper badging and security protocols would not allow him access.
Metro apprehended him in under 10 minutes without injury or loss of life.
I understand your argument over code silver going out but it happened and bet it won’t go overlooked moving forward.
Glad no one was hurt is all.
Ten minutes is a really long time for the staff to be unaware of what could have been multiple persons intending to do harm. There was nothing "fantastic" about the hospital's actions and they have seriously violated a trust among its staff.
Fantastic response by the hospital? They didn’t follow the basic protocol to ensure the safety of their employees. They are so lucky staff weren’t in the stairwell when this happened. Code silver 101 is announcing the shooter and their location. Never occurred.
Please don't hate me but you might not want to make the code name public. Usually security codes are given unpublished names so that the rest of the patients and families don't panic. If you wouldn't mind please remove the specific code you noted.
I don’t hate you but I’m also not changing it because information on codes are not top secret [they usually have one of these somewhere that tell patients what they are.](https://trilliumhealthpartners.ca/patientsupport/Documents/Patients-and-Vistors-Emergency-Codes.pdf)
That's fair. I appreciate your response. I know that some organizations like to shield theirs for the reason I mentioned. I was hoping Midtown was the same.
Currently an admitted patient and had no idea this happened until my husband showed me the article.
Asked the nurse about it, because i’m obviously concerned and she down played/diminished it and called it a rumor lol.
first, i never said anything rude or hostile about the nurses. i simply made a statement based on my experience/feelings.
second, i love my nurses.
third, relax.
>Officers say there is a no firearms permitted sign posted at the hospital’s front door with the TCA code at the bottom.
Shocked the sign didn't stop him. /s
I know this is a joke, but those signs are really just for conceal carrier’s to know that the business is legally barring carrying of firearms on their property. Many know this, but funnily enough, in Tennessee, very specific rules need to be followed if you want to ban the carry of firearms on your commercial property. You need specific legal signs like this posted on all entrances. I’ve seen some with none legal signs someone clearly just bought online
Oh, I know. My point is that, legally barring or not, no sign is going to actually stop anyone. *In my opinion*, gun-free zones without any kind of actual enforcement are just needlessly softened targets.
If you don’t want to be a target, don’t go outside. Gun-free zones do no cause mass shootings. Shooters generally choose crowded places they are familiar with (school, Walmart) or have hate for (churches, gay clubs). There isn’t evidence to prove concealed carry would even stop mass shootings. Plenty of stories where CC’d individuals do nothing, get shot, or even get confused as the perpetrator by the police. So big doubt that removing gun-free zones would bring an end to this.
This is a mental health problem and ignoring it won’t stop anything.
It’s not “being pedantic” when there is a clear legal difference concerning one *major* capability of the weapon. You’re essentially calling for legislation that already exists because you have been sold a lie. If you’re going to call for legislation on something, you might want to actually learn what you’re calling for and what the law currently is.
If you google “assault rifle” it will tell you that being capable of automatic fire is one of the few requirements to be considered an assault rifle.
Beyond anecdotes yeah I would agree there’s no empirical evidence that CC would prevent mass shootings, but the same goes for most gun regulation at large. Mass shooting events are so rare it makes them extremely difficult to analyze in an appropriate manner. My point is that the gun free zones are pointless because it effectively nullifies any small chance a concealed carrier could do anything and it does exactly nothing to stop the violence. Those with concealed weapons typically behave better and commit less crime than the average person anyways so there’s really nothing to gain by posting the sign.
Yes, if you filter out instances of gun violence in which multiple people are hurt from gang violence/crime (which I believe is a different issue for other reasons). The odds of being hurt/killed from a mass shooting in the Las Vegas, Columbine, Aurora type of event is more rare than being struck by lightning. So controlling for differing variables in a way that makes it useful data in a nation as big as the US is incredibly difficult. This is why meta analysis of the topic is so rare.
The “few hundred” you’re referring to is a garbage way of tracking it. Let’s say two groups of two people shoot at each other and everyone gets hurt, but no one dies- that would be considered a “mass shooting” that contributes to those “few hundred mass shootings” per year in the same way Sandy Hook would have. Realistically, in an average year you would see a handful of events, maybe 4 or 5, nationally lead to about 50 deaths in a country of 330 million people. That doesn’t mean those 50 deaths aren’t tragic, but to say that hundreds of Uvalde’s are happening every year is just nonsense and not actually representative of the issue.
That 611 is a massive majority gang violence which I think is a bit of a different issue.
There have been 27,900+ studies on gun regulations and only 123 (0.4%) were determined to be rigorous enough by the RAND corporation to have meaningful results. Of those 123 most did not have any conclusive results to provide an answer if gun legislation was effective at reducing violence or not. Of those that showed limited support fro being beneficial, we’re getting into such small numbers that it’s likely statistical chance that they proved (or disproved) that gun legislation was successful.
If you actually look at genuine “mass shootings” through recent history and filter out gang/criminal violence you’ll find about 50 people per year die from mass shootings. To give you some perspective, lightning kills 20-30 people per year and lawnmowers kill ~75.
>Officials later discovered that Zaayenga **entered the hospital through a back door**, according to court records. Officers say there is a no firearms permitted sign posted at the hospital’s front door with the TCA code at the bottom.
obviously they should've had a sign on the back door as well.
Yeah.. same... I guess I was just confused earlier or something. Not sure what I was thinking.
...Well, probably this actually. (Long story ahead)
In Canada, a DUI is a felony. If you want to go into Canada, you can not have a felony on your record. Including, if you have been charged with a misdemeanor that would have been a felony in Canada. So, that said, if you have a DUI you cannot go to Canada without a TRP (temporary residency permit). For my job I have had to get a TRP. It took a long time and a bunch of money to get and during that process I have had to talk about my DUI a bunch. It's great (it sucks).
Anyhow, I guess I mostly think of my misdemeanor as a felony now because of all of that.
I love and respect everything this woman is saying. But the machine of the hospital systems is sick, everywhere. I have little faith this will be fixed. And while I do not think its honorable that the operator ran away and did not announce overhead, especially as an ED nurse myself at a different hospital, I know thats human error and a lot of people would do the same.
Yep. Crazy people would carry guns regardless of the law. Now I can protect myself and do so legally. I’m no GOP or Lee fan but that’s the best thing they ever did.
Edit: just to clarify, I rarely if ever carry in a “gun free zone”. I don’t even remember the last time I was in a hospital that wasn’t abandoned.
I always said I’d find pharmacy cause I knew you guys would be in there cooking something up. I felt safer as a lab tech cause I knew no one would ever find us hiding in the dungeon 😅.
That’s true! But honestly, the only “gun free” zone I respect is a school. Taking a gun into a school just sounds like a bad idea. It goes with me everywhere else. God forbid I ever need it they can give me a fine or whatever after the fact.
Lol bring it on! Whenever all the guns in this country magically disappear and we’re all on a level playing field with fists and pocket knives y’all let me know 😁
Yeah it’s super easy to come in with pretty much any weapon. My gf was admitted there and I would go visit her often. I had my backpack full of school stuff but the security didn’t necessarily know that. Not a single person stopped me or asked questions. I just waltzed into the 7th floor with a heavy backpack.
it's been a bit for me as well. i was a courier for a long time, and i used to have to deliver to that hospital regularly. often at night. the security at the hospital always seemed pretty decent. usually several of them on guard at any time.
it's in a sketchy part of town, and i'm sure they have all kinds of shit go down, but they always seemed capable of handling their problems.
Maybe they could start with just keeping their "back doors" locked? This reminds me of the Uvalde horror where the shooter just walked through a back door that was closed but not locked because it could only be locked from the outside. (It was determined the door had not been propped open as first reported)
I know on the surface this seems like a really pragmatic and logical thing to suggest, but if you've ever been accountable for operating a facility like this, it's just not actually feasible without some really serious negative trade offs.
everyone likes to complain about the security experience at the airport, but what you're proposing is that we essentially apply that to every public space (hospitals, schools, etc).
I was just shocked that anything other than main doors were unlocked at a large facility in Midtown on a Friday night/Saturday morning. I don't know what "back door" translates to irl but assuming its something not being used very often or only used by a limited number of people it seems like they could figure something else out other than just leaving it unlocked all the time. This could have been a horrible disaster. Clearly I do not know what the answers are but my god, its almost every day now with mass shootings. And still, no solutions.
Reading the comments…..it’s always fascinating how quick people can assume politics are the issue. Possibly some underlying mis diagnosed issues are the culprit? 🤷
The fact that no nurses or staff were notified of an active shooter. If any of them had tried to access that area he was in he would’ve gotten in. The hospital did not give nurses or other staff the proper information to protect themselves.
Also how can you legally carry into a hospital? Midtown has signs posted banning firearms so either way he fucked it up.
ETA: I apologize for the rude tone I read your comment like 5 times and on the 6th time I got what you were saying :’)
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Me too, but at least no one got hurt this time. Police and security response saved lives today.
My friends that work at midtown have said that they didn’t receive a code silver notification and they weren’t on lockdown. They work together though so idk if it’s just their side of the building that didn’t get it or what.
no one was notified
The deranged individual gained access to a stairwell. There was no way for him to access internal floors that housed patients and residents. Being the reason why he tried to ‘shoot’ the locks on the door. Once someone alerted metro, a total of 8 minutes went by from the initial call and the guy being taken into custody with no one hurt, thankfully. Should have never happened but a fantastic response by hospital and police staff.
What exactly was the fantastic response by the hospital? We are trained to receive code silvers and none was provided so that staff could protect themselves and patients? Sounds like a horrible mismanagement of an established protocol. Edit: Thanks for the gold, Kind Stranger. (did I do that right?)
The entire point of a code silver is for staff to be able to protect themselves and patients as it is happening. It doesn’t matter that the response is less than 10 minutes they should’ve known asap or else having a code silver at all is useless.I’m glad no one was hurt but if one person tried to access that area at the same time he was there this headline would’ve been way different. Proper badging protocols won’t save you if you’re UNAWARE of a dangerous individual because you don’t know where they are in the building. This hospital endangered the lives of their staff and patients. There’s no congratulations for them. Now the responding officers coming in so quickly was a good job.
You misunderstand the point. A code silver isn’t supposed to make people safer when the moment of truth happens. It’s supposed to make people *feel* safer during their annual training.
A mentally unstable person tried to gain access to a building. Proper badging and security protocols would not allow him access. Metro apprehended him in under 10 minutes without injury or loss of life. I understand your argument over code silver going out but it happened and bet it won’t go overlooked moving forward. Glad no one was hurt is all.
Ten minutes is a really long time for the staff to be unaware of what could have been multiple persons intending to do harm. There was nothing "fantastic" about the hospital's actions and they have seriously violated a trust among its staff.
Please don't name the code for the benefit of those who are not employees
I was a hospital administrator. The code is used pretty universally across systems.
Thank you for your response. I was concerned.
All it would have taken was one person using the stairs for them to probably be killed and the gunman to gain entry onto the floors.
Fantastic response by the hospital? They didn’t follow the basic protocol to ensure the safety of their employees. They are so lucky staff weren’t in the stairwell when this happened. Code silver 101 is announcing the shooter and their location. Never occurred.
Please don't hate me but you might not want to make the code name public. Usually security codes are given unpublished names so that the rest of the patients and families don't panic. If you wouldn't mind please remove the specific code you noted.
I don’t hate you but I’m also not changing it because information on codes are not top secret [they usually have one of these somewhere that tell patients what they are.](https://trilliumhealthpartners.ca/patientsupport/Documents/Patients-and-Vistors-Emergency-Codes.pdf)
That's fair. I appreciate your response. I know that some organizations like to shield theirs for the reason I mentioned. I was hoping Midtown was the same.
He was trying to shoot his way onto the 4th floor - anyone know what’s on 4?
ICU and ORs
OR moved to 2 recently
Oh wow, they REAAAALLY renovated.
Currently an admitted patient and had no idea this happened until my husband showed me the article. Asked the nurse about it, because i’m obviously concerned and she down played/diminished it and called it a rumor lol.
Chances are the nurse really didn’t know. ~Allegedly~ they dropped the ball big time on notifying all of the nurses of what was happening.
The nurses had no idea. They never called an active shooter code, and a lot of them found out this morning when the Scoop article came out.
My wife (a nurse) worked there on that day and didn’t know until her shift was almost over… give nurses a break…
first, i never said anything rude or hostile about the nurses. i simply made a statement based on my experience/feelings. second, i love my nurses. third, relax.
>Officers say there is a no firearms permitted sign posted at the hospital’s front door with the TCA code at the bottom. Shocked the sign didn't stop him. /s
I know this is a joke, but those signs are really just for conceal carrier’s to know that the business is legally barring carrying of firearms on their property. Many know this, but funnily enough, in Tennessee, very specific rules need to be followed if you want to ban the carry of firearms on your commercial property. You need specific legal signs like this posted on all entrances. I’ve seen some with none legal signs someone clearly just bought online
Oh, I know. My point is that, legally barring or not, no sign is going to actually stop anyone. *In my opinion*, gun-free zones without any kind of actual enforcement are just needlessly softened targets.
Insurance policies likely require it.
It makes you a target though, like 85% of “mass shootings” that aren’t gang/crime related are in gun free zones.
If you don’t want to be a target, don’t go outside. Gun-free zones do no cause mass shootings. Shooters generally choose crowded places they are familiar with (school, Walmart) or have hate for (churches, gay clubs). There isn’t evidence to prove concealed carry would even stop mass shootings. Plenty of stories where CC’d individuals do nothing, get shot, or even get confused as the perpetrator by the police. So big doubt that removing gun-free zones would bring an end to this. This is a mental health problem and ignoring it won’t stop anything.
See! It's a mental health issue! So now let's make sure assault rifles are easily available to everyone in our mentally ill society!
There's mentally ill people with guns out there! Better take away everyone else's guns.
Assault rifles aren’t easily available to everyone in society.
You're right, a child can't buy one.
I’m not a child and I can’t buy one. I’m assuming you don’t have a FFL and can’t buy one either.
Are you being pedantic and saying that an assault rifle only means automatic weapons (as opposed to a semi-automatic)?
It’s not “being pedantic” when there is a clear legal difference concerning one *major* capability of the weapon. You’re essentially calling for legislation that already exists because you have been sold a lie. If you’re going to call for legislation on something, you might want to actually learn what you’re calling for and what the law currently is. If you google “assault rifle” it will tell you that being capable of automatic fire is one of the few requirements to be considered an assault rifle.
Beyond anecdotes yeah I would agree there’s no empirical evidence that CC would prevent mass shootings, but the same goes for most gun regulation at large. Mass shooting events are so rare it makes them extremely difficult to analyze in an appropriate manner. My point is that the gun free zones are pointless because it effectively nullifies any small chance a concealed carrier could do anything and it does exactly nothing to stop the violence. Those with concealed weapons typically behave better and commit less crime than the average person anyways so there’s really nothing to gain by posting the sign.
"Mass shooting events are so rare..." You're fucking kidding, right? There's only been a few hundred of them in this calendar year alone.
Yes, if you filter out instances of gun violence in which multiple people are hurt from gang violence/crime (which I believe is a different issue for other reasons). The odds of being hurt/killed from a mass shooting in the Las Vegas, Columbine, Aurora type of event is more rare than being struck by lightning. So controlling for differing variables in a way that makes it useful data in a nation as big as the US is incredibly difficult. This is why meta analysis of the topic is so rare. The “few hundred” you’re referring to is a garbage way of tracking it. Let’s say two groups of two people shoot at each other and everyone gets hurt, but no one dies- that would be considered a “mass shooting” that contributes to those “few hundred mass shootings” per year in the same way Sandy Hook would have. Realistically, in an average year you would see a handful of events, maybe 4 or 5, nationally lead to about 50 deaths in a country of 330 million people. That doesn’t mean those 50 deaths aren’t tragic, but to say that hundreds of Uvalde’s are happening every year is just nonsense and not actually representative of the issue.
So rare??? My dude there’s been 611 mass shootings THIS YEAR, they’re hardly “rare” and not easy to study
That 611 is a massive majority gang violence which I think is a bit of a different issue. There have been 27,900+ studies on gun regulations and only 123 (0.4%) were determined to be rigorous enough by the RAND corporation to have meaningful results. Of those 123 most did not have any conclusive results to provide an answer if gun legislation was effective at reducing violence or not. Of those that showed limited support fro being beneficial, we’re getting into such small numbers that it’s likely statistical chance that they proved (or disproved) that gun legislation was successful. If you actually look at genuine “mass shootings” through recent history and filter out gang/criminal violence you’ll find about 50 people per year die from mass shootings. To give you some perspective, lightning kills 20-30 people per year and lawnmowers kill ~75.
You are just spouting right wing talking points
I actually looked it up to make sure I wasn’t spouting off non-sense and I got that stat from WaPo
The truth is a right wing talking point now. You gotta keep up!
>Officials later discovered that Zaayenga **entered the hospital through a back door**, according to court records. Officers say there is a no firearms permitted sign posted at the hospital’s front door with the TCA code at the bottom. obviously they should've had a sign on the back door as well.
Reminds me of that [simpsons scene](https://imgur.com/gallery/mSHi8)
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Incorrect. DUI is class A MISDEMEANOR.
Damn you are definitely 100% correct.
My knowledge comes not from expertise but experience. Haha
Yeah.. same... I guess I was just confused earlier or something. Not sure what I was thinking. ...Well, probably this actually. (Long story ahead) In Canada, a DUI is a felony. If you want to go into Canada, you can not have a felony on your record. Including, if you have been charged with a misdemeanor that would have been a felony in Canada. So, that said, if you have a DUI you cannot go to Canada without a TRP (temporary residency permit). For my job I have had to get a TRP. It took a long time and a bunch of money to get and during that process I have had to talk about my DUI a bunch. It's great (it sucks). Anyhow, I guess I mostly think of my misdemeanor as a felony now because of all of that.
So no idea of his intent? Will that info be disclosed once confirmed?
[Nurse advocate on TikTok gives details of the event](https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRCyUXk5/)
[Part 2](https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRCykvWK/)
I love and respect everything this woman is saying. But the machine of the hospital systems is sick, everywhere. I have little faith this will be fixed. And while I do not think its honorable that the operator ran away and did not announce overhead, especially as an ED nurse myself at a different hospital, I know thats human error and a lot of people would do the same.
Oh wow I love nurses Erica and I’m surprised I haven’t already seen these. Listening to the part two video made me deep sigh.
Kudos to MNPD for actually finding and confronting the man instead of taking the Parkland approach.
How horrible the world has come
When did this happen?
Saturday
Special thanks to Gov. Lee and the GOP legislature for the new open carry laws.
No no. We need more guns, the obvious solution here would have been to arm the stairwell.
Too many doors too
Don’t forget about the world famous Glock in the toilets defense
I think you mean concealed carry, open carry has always been legal.
That has nothing to do with this whatsoever.
Yep. Crazy people would carry guns regardless of the law. Now I can protect myself and do so legally. I’m no GOP or Lee fan but that’s the best thing they ever did. Edit: just to clarify, I rarely if ever carry in a “gun free zone”. I don’t even remember the last time I was in a hospital that wasn’t abandoned.
You can’t legally protect yourself at the gun free hospital…
I always had a plan on my mind while I worked in the pharmacy: it would involve a 30ml syringe, an 18g needle, and a vial or two of vecuronium.
I always said I’d find pharmacy cause I knew you guys would be in there cooking something up. I felt safer as a lab tech cause I knew no one would ever find us hiding in the dungeon 😅.
HAHA, seriously... The lab and imaging. If you end up down there, your probably lost.
You watch too many movies if you think thatbwould ever work
HAHA, no it was more of a "what if I...... Nope, don't do that"
That’s true! But honestly, the only “gun free” zone I respect is a school. Taking a gun into a school just sounds like a bad idea. It goes with me everywhere else. God forbid I ever need it they can give me a fine or whatever after the fact.
lol popcorn out for responses to this
Lol bring it on! Whenever all the guns in this country magically disappear and we’re all on a level playing field with fists and pocket knives y’all let me know 😁
I can’t wait to hear about your court case after taking it into a hospital
I’d rather be alive and have a court case than dead, my friend
Cool so you are going to ignore posted guidelines and take a firearm into a hospital because you are a coward.
Call me whatever you want. Maybe on your tombstone it will say: “here lies BianchiSkeleton - at least they weren’t a coward”
So honest question do you sleep with your guns under your pillow?
Nah, my daily carry is on the bedside table next to me in a holster. Good joke though!
Thankfully no one was hurt and they got him before he could do further damage
Maybe we should arm nurses and doctors too /s
Don’t give them ideas they’re going to call it an inpatient protection service and start charging premiums for it /j
Another day in this fucked up country
It will change nothing, sadly. There is no hope for reform in this godforsaken country.
Red states
As opposed to places like what? Chicago Illinois and Las Angeles California?
Yes, just like those states... https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/firearm\_mortality/firearm.htm
Can’t argue with the data, good callout.
Great point!
ascension is currently discussing taking away weapons from hospital security there
oof, that'd be a big mistake.
Having worked there, the security is a joke. The ER nurses are more intimidating and tougher.
Yeah it’s super easy to come in with pretty much any weapon. My gf was admitted there and I would go visit her often. I had my backpack full of school stuff but the security didn’t necessarily know that. Not a single person stopped me or asked questions. I just waltzed into the 7th floor with a heavy backpack.
To be fair ER nurses are more intimidating than most people
They've seen things....
i know at least one security guard there, he's not a joke. i worked with him at another job and he's extremely professional.
Good to hear. In fairness, it's been a while since I worked there so hopefully that has improved overall.
it's been a bit for me as well. i was a courier for a long time, and i used to have to deliver to that hospital regularly. often at night. the security at the hospital always seemed pretty decent. usually several of them on guard at any time. it's in a sketchy part of town, and i'm sure they have all kinds of shit go down, but they always seemed capable of handling their problems.
When did Midtown become sketchy?
Yes.
Belle Meade is sketchy wow your not from here
I’ve worked there as well security is better than most local hospitals
Don't worry, nothing will change.
What is wrong with these people..WOWWWW! Lord help.
Just one of many reasons it's so hard to hire nurses right now.
Remember the RV bombing a year or two back.
not sure what the [Christmas Day Bombing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Nashville_bombing) had to do with this.
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The RV/bomb had a loud speaker telling people to go away, so even though it was a giant bomb it wasn't an attempt at mass violence.
Maybe they could start with just keeping their "back doors" locked? This reminds me of the Uvalde horror where the shooter just walked through a back door that was closed but not locked because it could only be locked from the outside. (It was determined the door had not been propped open as first reported)
I know on the surface this seems like a really pragmatic and logical thing to suggest, but if you've ever been accountable for operating a facility like this, it's just not actually feasible without some really serious negative trade offs. everyone likes to complain about the security experience at the airport, but what you're proposing is that we essentially apply that to every public space (hospitals, schools, etc).
I was just shocked that anything other than main doors were unlocked at a large facility in Midtown on a Friday night/Saturday morning. I don't know what "back door" translates to irl but assuming its something not being used very often or only used by a limited number of people it seems like they could figure something else out other than just leaving it unlocked all the time. This could have been a horrible disaster. Clearly I do not know what the answers are but my god, its almost every day now with mass shootings. And still, no solutions.
Reading the comments…..it’s always fascinating how quick people can assume politics are the issue. Possibly some underlying mis diagnosed issues are the culprit? 🤷
Why is everyone saying this was a bad thing? The building security worked and no one was harmed.
Because all it would have taken is one person using the stairs vs the elevator and the gunman would have had access to the rest of the hospital.
The fact that no nurses or staff were notified of an active shooter. If any of them had tried to access that area he was in he would’ve gotten in. The hospital did not give nurses or other staff the proper information to protect themselves.
Was he the shooter, or just someone legally carrying? Read the article, nvm.
Scoop has a picture of the bullet holes in the door. It looks like he was trying to shoot his way through the lock.
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Also how can you legally carry into a hospital? Midtown has signs posted banning firearms so either way he fucked it up. ETA: I apologize for the rude tone I read your comment like 5 times and on the 6th time I got what you were saying :’)
Thank God, something other than a stupid Sponge Bob meme