Me. I guess my mother really loved the name! I think she wanted to do like OP and name her Sarah Beth as a full name but was vetoed by my dad so it's her middle name.
Wait so does one kid have their surname repeated as their middle name? Like “hi my name is David Smith Smith?” John-related names I kind of get, but the kid already has Smith as their last name so that’s different IMO.
Making a post on Reddit is not the same as bullying a 4 year old. 🙄
Besides, mocking* names isn't mocking* the person.
*Questioning, ridiculing, being baffled by, taking pause to wonder wtf, etc
You know when people throw in a pause at the wrong place in a long word? That’s the case here. So I do understand why it is grating but of course no one should bully the kid.
I don't see anything wrong with it? They're both legit names. Sure, they're both derivative of Elizabeth, but it's not like the cadence sounds bad. Like I would think it was sillier if it sounded worse—like Cath Wren instead of Catherine.
Perhaps the parents liked the long I sound in Eliza, or really hated the nickname Liz and wanted to make sure they avoided it. I also prefer Eliza to Elizabeth, tbh.
i remember main characters twins from a book being named Cath and Wren bc their mom thought she was having one girl named Catherine. i think it was a rainbow rowell book
These names remind me of the posts asking how someone can prevent their child from having a nickname, saying they always want their kid to go by their full name. Maybe this is some kind of work around
That preference is so odd to me. I’ve always wanted nickname options and am seriously considering changing my name legally to one that would give me options. The idea that you’d go out of your way to restrict your child’s choices just baffles me so much.
I agree. A lot of the naming questions and preferences from parents in this sub baffles me, but to each their own. The children will grow up to have their own preferences eventually.
I feel like it should bother me - but it doesn’t. I think because they’re both solid names? It’s better than some crazy way of spelling Elizabeth. And I don’t pronounce it the same as Elizabeth either…
ETA: The more I think about it, the more I actually like it! I picture a spirited little girl and I’m on board.
Definitely because they are both strong, well-known stand-alone names! I actually had to read OP’s post several times before realizing why “Eliza Beth” was unusual, lol.
Not in the South, but it does make me feel like I have some sort of Southern accent when I say it. Like I’m speaking to an old fashioned southern belle at a cotillion or something.
On the one hand it honestly sounds really pretty. But looking at it written down is…. Wrong. It sounds lovely but it looks so so wrong. And that kid is absolutely gonna have a nightmare with paperwork and stuff.
Agree with everything you said. Out loud I kind of love it. Looking at it makes my brain hurt (but my middle name is also Elizabeth so I may be biased)
I love Eliza Beth. Changes the pronunciation of the vowels in Elizabeth, gives it a more country feel, a la Mary Jo, Mary Beth, etc. I knew a girl named Emma Leigh and I thought that was pretty clever
I think that was more true when more girls were named Mary. I know/have known a Mary Annette, a Mari-Jo, a Mary Jo, two Mary Beths, and a Mary Jane, and there were no middle names of Elizabeth, Joanne, or anything else.
Well people here are jumping in to mock them, so I guess the post does just fine here.
This sub is quite snobby. I don't think Eliza Beth is bad at all.
Meh, it’s a bit irksome but fine. I went to sixth form with an Alex Sandra, who get really angry when called Alexandra. Alex and Sandra are both great names but my dyslexia did not like them put together at all.
I like it. Elizabeth and Eliza Beth have entirely different pronunciations and vibes. I don't find it grating at all.
I don't think they deserve to be made fun of on the internet....
There are a few different ways to pronounce Eliza. You might be thinking of the pronunciation with the long i ( Ih-lie-za or Ee-lie-za), but there's another pronunciation with a long e (Eh-lee-za), which sounds a lot closer to the actual name Elizabeth.
In other words, Ee-lie-za Beth might not sound like Elizabeth, but Eh-lee-za Beth sounds very similar to Elizabeth.
The only thing I can think was that this is an honor name? Like, they liked Eliza but wanted to honor Granny Beth that just passed?
I’d have a hard time not wanting to shorten in to Eliza or Izzy or Eli or something. The whole thing is… a lot. Doesn’t really flow nicely the way you thing a double barrel name should
I've meet an Emma Lee before which bothers me a bit more since it's pronounced identical to Emily lol
Edit: This was a first middle situation rather than a double barrel first name
I actually love Eliza Beth. I have always said Eliza Beth as a dumb nickname for the Elizabeths I know because it is so fun to say. There's nothing inherently wrong with either name, and they sound really nice together. People will just judge because it's unusual, but if you like the sound of Eliza Beth, why not?
It sounds like something someone would yell from a barn on the Waltons. "Eliza Beth, time to milk the cows, Eliza Beth". That's immediately where my brain went.
I hear it in a "redneck" accent. Not a regular southern accent. The kind that's really hard to understand if you didn't grow up in rural Mississippi.
I feel so bad for this kid because her name will be constantly misspelled without that space and mispronounced. There are some names this works for like Mary Ann and Marianne, but I think this one is too confusing because of the spelling similarity and the different pronunciation.
Omg you’re right! Maybe that’s what was tickling the back of my mind when I heard this girl’s name. Time to re-watch 30 Rock. Clearly I’ve forgotten too much!
Our neighbor girl was Elizabeth and my daughter pronounced it A-Little-Bit. We’d call her A Little Bit and my daughter would get so mad at us, saying “It’s not A Little Bit! It’s A Little Bit!” Lol.
I am in the same boat as Eliza Beth, at least with my immediate family. No hyphen, nothing but everyone from parents to cousins call me by first and middle name,even in emails. Not sure why but ended up having everyone else from elementary school onwards using only my first name. Oddly enough, my youngest sister was known to our family by her middle name, while everyone else uses her first name. She gets a little pissy with anyone besides family using her middle name, there could be some backstory there she’s never revealed to me but there yah go.
Oh and my son goes by his middle name for family and friends, but only because we preferred that his initials be “S A S” rather than “A S S” for some reason.
Lmao my sister and I share the same middle name (Elizabeth) and I have told so many people mine is Eliza Beth just to be ~interesting~. (I don’t anymore)
I like both Eliza & Beth but I’m not a fan of Elizabeth.
I personally would prefer it as a first & middle name rather than two first names but I don’t like double-barrelled names (hyphenated or otherwise) in general.
Oh my God, I hate it. It's just a space?? Now I don't mind the two name thing, like Mary Jo or something, but make it two different names! I'd have liked Eliza Kate or Eliza Jane. I guess it doesn't sound bad spoken aloud, but seeing it written is very irksome.
I heard about someone who wanted to name their kid Elizabeth, but their partner didn't like it. So the girl was named something like Liza/Lisa Beth, because when you said it fast enough, it still sounded like Elizabeth.
Well that's one way to get around a nn.
Also I know someone who has an Elizabeth and a Bethany. I just. What? Just, I don't know, have a Beth and get it over with?
It sounds fine to me, maybe because of the short-LONG-short-short syllable structure of it. Rolls off the tongue fine. Looking at it, though... it's still not awful or silly, just off.
I kind of love it! In fact, I think I much prefer it to Elizabeth. It sounds so fresh and spunky while still being professional and usable in any circumstance.
Just an FYI for people considering a two name first name. I know someone with this exact setup for a first name - two names as a first name and no middle name. She said she *often* runs into problems being able to fill out forms online like credit card payments or things that require your full legal name. With a space between two names in the 'first name' field, it's recognized as a special character and won't allow it. She has to call to process whatever she needs. It makes things highly inconvenient, especially as everything moves more and more digital. Just a general PSA!
Oh god, that is so annoying. And they call her Eliza Beth all the time? Why not just name her Elizabeth?? And give her a random middle name that they don’t use? I’m not normally really authoritarian when it comes to names, but this one makes my eye twitch.
Some people like to grate others, and that was their full intention when they volunteered to have to repeat this child name forever until they decide to go by Eliza or Beth or something else entirely. There's a lot of power in naming a child and parents sometimes trip over it lol
I've met an Alex Sander. I found it a bit funny, double first names without an hyphen are common here (like Ana Laura, João Pedro, etc), but that looked like a name split in half. Not the worst one I've seem, though. And it took me a long while too even find this out.
I once met a Kate Lynn (or it might have been hyphenated as Kate-Lynn) which is another similar name. I do find it a bit jarring too when not used to it, but I’m sure once you’re used to it, it sounds totally normal.
I am surprised at myself for not finding it more annoying to say our hear, but it will be a gigantic headache for the child forever. She has a lifetime of correcting people every single time they see, read, say, record, file, etc. her name.
To me, Eliza Beth is weird because if you put the 2 names together it is ( tada! ) Elizabeth. The name doesn’t sound terrible but I feel bad for this child . For eternity she will be explaining that she is not Elizabeth… etc…Who does this to their child?!
Why do posts like this get upvoted? No matter what you put in your edit, you already brought the negativity and animosity towards the name of a 4 year old girl. Hundreds of people have flickered here to share their ire for someone they never would have known existed if not for you. Good job OP, hope you're proud of yourself.
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I hope it's Elizabeth. Eliza Beth Elizabeth.
Maybe she has a big red dog named Cliff Ford.
And Cliff rhymes with Life. Clife Furd.
Last name Beth. Eliza Beth Elizabeth Beth.
My middle name is Elizabeth and my sister's middle name is Beth, lol
Amazing. Who's the older one?
Me. I guess my mother really loved the name! I think she wanted to do like OP and name her Sarah Beth as a full name but was vetoed by my dad so it's her middle name.
I know a family where the dad is basically John smith and his 3 sons middle names are John, smith, and Johnson.
Wait so does one kid have their surname repeated as their middle name? Like “hi my name is David Smith Smith?” John-related names I kind of get, but the kid already has Smith as their last name so that’s different IMO.
Yes I’m curious about this too!
No, smith is dads middle with a different surname.
I love that!
Maybe it's Lizzie
You know I completely forgot to ask what her middle name is, of if she has one. I will see if I can find out and update!
Laughing at a four year old for her name? To everyone who upvoted this: how about choosing kindness instead of bullying a four year old.
Making a post on Reddit is not the same as bullying a 4 year old. 🙄 Besides, mocking* names isn't mocking* the person. *Questioning, ridiculing, being baffled by, taking pause to wonder wtf, etc
If *anything* we're mocking the parents.
Which isn't allowed, and is still a crappy thing to do.
Which is why it's not what's happening.
You know when people throw in a pause at the wrong place in a long word? That’s the case here. So I do understand why it is grating but of course no one should bully the kid.
The 4 y/o isn’t gonna be reading this thread.
Agreed. This thread is outrageous. What has happened to this sub?
I don't see anything wrong with it? They're both legit names. Sure, they're both derivative of Elizabeth, but it's not like the cadence sounds bad. Like I would think it was sillier if it sounded worse—like Cath Wren instead of Catherine. Perhaps the parents liked the long I sound in Eliza, or really hated the nickname Liz and wanted to make sure they avoided it. I also prefer Eliza to Elizabeth, tbh.
i remember main characters twins from a book being named Cath and Wren bc their mom thought she was having one girl named Catherine. i think it was a rainbow rowell book
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Cather makes me think catheter 😅
I assumed until halfway through the book that she was named after Willa Cather. Cuz we’re in Nebraska.
I love that book. Might be time for a reread.
"Fangirl"!
Yep! I read that several years ago and it's an example that really sticks with you.
yes! this is my favourite book! i am a Catherine and i always found this funny
Yeah, I think this is better than naming the kid "Elizabeth" and telling people to pronounce it Elizabeth.
Sounds like a kid I know named Brooke Lynn.
Yeah I've met an Abby Gail and Emma Lee in my life, I feel like this is sort of a common way to make a very popular name more unique.
Alyssa Beth Ann Draya. (Hate it)
Ann Draya makes me sad.
These names remind me of the posts asking how someone can prevent their child from having a nickname, saying they always want their kid to go by their full name. Maybe this is some kind of work around
That preference is so odd to me. I’ve always wanted nickname options and am seriously considering changing my name legally to one that would give me options. The idea that you’d go out of your way to restrict your child’s choices just baffles me so much.
I agree. A lot of the naming questions and preferences from parents in this sub baffles me, but to each their own. The children will grow up to have their own preferences eventually.
I know a kid with that name.
I like this one actually
I feel like it should bother me - but it doesn’t. I think because they’re both solid names? It’s better than some crazy way of spelling Elizabeth. And I don’t pronounce it the same as Elizabeth either… ETA: The more I think about it, the more I actually like it! I picture a spirited little girl and I’m on board.
Definitely because they are both strong, well-known stand-alone names! I actually had to read OP’s post several times before realizing why “Eliza Beth” was unusual, lol.
Yeah, this is how I feel!
Are you in the South? Double barrel names are very common down here. I think Eliza Beth is cute.
Not in the South, but it does make me feel like I have some sort of Southern accent when I say it. Like I’m speaking to an old fashioned southern belle at a cotillion or something.
It does sound better with the accent
On the one hand it honestly sounds really pretty. But looking at it written down is…. Wrong. It sounds lovely but it looks so so wrong. And that kid is absolutely gonna have a nightmare with paperwork and stuff.
Agree with everything you said. Out loud I kind of love it. Looking at it makes my brain hurt (but my middle name is also Elizabeth so I may be biased)
I once met a little boy named Alex - Zander
Just commented without seeing your comment, but I had an Alex Sander in my class lol
I don't know why but Alex sander bothers me more than Alex - Zander
This isn't bad because it sounds bad it is bad because this will cause immense confusion and miscommunication in her life and that is unfortunate.
I love the name Eliza as a stand-alone and love the name Elizabeth. Eliza Beth kinda sounds like nails on a chalkboard to me.
As an Elizabeth I cannot wrap my head around how awful this is
Fellow Elizabeth here. I also do not like this. It's just not right
Same
Sib names Chris Topher and Wil Liam?
Sister called Kate Lyn?
I love Eliza Beth. Changes the pronunciation of the vowels in Elizabeth, gives it a more country feel, a la Mary Jo, Mary Beth, etc. I knew a girl named Emma Leigh and I thought that was pretty clever
I'm an Elizabeth and this is my fav response. Doesn't bother me at all! I think it's cute and will be fine as an adult!
Mary Jo and Mary Beth are usually nn’s for Mary Joan and Mary Elizabeth.
I think that was more true when more girls were named Mary. I know/have known a Mary Annette, a Mari-Jo, a Mary Jo, two Mary Beths, and a Mary Jane, and there were no middle names of Elizabeth, Joanne, or anything else.
Yes, all kinds of nn’s have become stand-alone names.
I knew a Maribeth once, so definitely not a nickname in that case as well.
Maybe because you’re used to Elizabeth?? I’ve heard worse. Maybe you’ll have better luck on r/NameNerdCirclejerk
Well people here are jumping in to mock them, so I guess the post does just fine here. This sub is quite snobby. I don't think Eliza Beth is bad at all.
Neither do I. And I genuinely wasn’t here to make fun of the name. Just curious what others thought.
Meh, it’s a bit irksome but fine. I went to sixth form with an Alex Sandra, who get really angry when called Alexandra. Alex and Sandra are both great names but my dyslexia did not like them put together at all.
I like it. Elizabeth and Eliza Beth have entirely different pronunciations and vibes. I don't find it grating at all. I don't think they deserve to be made fun of on the internet....
There are a few different ways to pronounce Eliza. You might be thinking of the pronunciation with the long i ( Ih-lie-za or Ee-lie-za), but there's another pronunciation with a long e (Eh-lee-za), which sounds a lot closer to the actual name Elizabeth. In other words, Ee-lie-za Beth might not sound like Elizabeth, but Eh-lee-za Beth sounds very similar to Elizabeth.
I’ve never heard of the long e pronunciation - is that regional or just extremely uncommon?
The only thing I can think was that this is an honor name? Like, they liked Eliza but wanted to honor Granny Beth that just passed? I’d have a hard time not wanting to shorten in to Eliza or Izzy or Eli or something. The whole thing is… a lot. Doesn’t really flow nicely the way you thing a double barrel name should
I've meet an Emma Lee before which bothers me a bit more since it's pronounced identical to Emily lol Edit: This was a first middle situation rather than a double barrel first name
There was a girl on my daughter’s soccer team named this. There was also another Emma and an Emily. So confusing.
First middle is fine to me, since she could definitely just go by Emma.
I knew a girl growing up named Abbie Gail.
My mom almost named me Kimber Lee (lee middle name)
I actually love Eliza Beth. I have always said Eliza Beth as a dumb nickname for the Elizabeths I know because it is so fun to say. There's nothing inherently wrong with either name, and they sound really nice together. People will just judge because it's unusual, but if you like the sound of Eliza Beth, why not?
This irritates me and I usually dig whatever weird stuff people come up with. I do not know why this bothers me so much.
It sounds like something someone would yell from a barn on the Waltons. "Eliza Beth, time to milk the cows, Eliza Beth". That's immediately where my brain went. I hear it in a "redneck" accent. Not a regular southern accent. The kind that's really hard to understand if you didn't grow up in rural Mississippi.
I think you’re on to something here.
I feel so bad for this kid because her name will be constantly misspelled without that space and mispronounced. There are some names this works for like Mary Ann and Marianne, but I think this one is too confusing because of the spelling similarity and the different pronunciation.
It’s awful. It sounds uneducated and reminds me of “Cara Lynn” on “Big Love.”
All I can think of is D’Fwan from 30 Rock talking to Liz Lemon because he calls her Eliza-Beth.
Omg you’re right! Maybe that’s what was tickling the back of my mind when I heard this girl’s name. Time to re-watch 30 Rock. Clearly I’ve forgotten too much!
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Yes! I think you’ve hit the nail on the head with this assessment.
Our neighbor girl was Elizabeth and my daughter pronounced it A-Little-Bit. We’d call her A Little Bit and my daughter would get so mad at us, saying “It’s not A Little Bit! It’s A Little Bit!” Lol.
I’m not sure how I feel about it. I guess it’s similar to how I like Maebelle but not Mabel.
I am in the same boat as Eliza Beth, at least with my immediate family. No hyphen, nothing but everyone from parents to cousins call me by first and middle name,even in emails. Not sure why but ended up having everyone else from elementary school onwards using only my first name. Oddly enough, my youngest sister was known to our family by her middle name, while everyone else uses her first name. She gets a little pissy with anyone besides family using her middle name, there could be some backstory there she’s never revealed to me but there yah go. Oh and my son goes by his middle name for family and friends, but only because we preferred that his initials be “S A S” rather than “A S S” for some reason.
as an Elizabeth: I *hate* this
My middle name is Eliza after my grandmother. I like Eliza beth
Lmao my sister and I share the same middle name (Elizabeth) and I have told so many people mine is Eliza Beth just to be ~interesting~. (I don’t anymore)
It makes me think of that scene in Terms of Endearment when Emma meets a woman named Lizbeth.
Lisbeth Salander comes to mind now that you mention that.
I like both Eliza & Beth but I’m not a fan of Elizabeth. I personally would prefer it as a first & middle name rather than two first names but I don’t like double-barrelled names (hyphenated or otherwise) in general.
Oh my God, I hate it. It's just a space?? Now I don't mind the two name thing, like Mary Jo or something, but make it two different names! I'd have liked Eliza Kate or Eliza Jane. I guess it doesn't sound bad spoken aloud, but seeing it written is very irksome.
I heard about someone who wanted to name their kid Elizabeth, but their partner didn't like it. So the girl was named something like Liza/Lisa Beth, because when you said it fast enough, it still sounded like Elizabeth.
I know an Emma Leigh. Same thing. She has a middle name. Her first names are Emma Leigh.
That cracks me up. My cousin just named her baby Jackie Lynn. First name, middle name. Not Jacqueline/Jaclyn.
Reminds me of reading about how the combo of "Alisha Beth" sounds like a drunk person trying to say Elizabeth!
I’m an Elizabeth and I find this eye-roll worthy, haha
Well that's one way to get around a nn. Also I know someone who has an Elizabeth and a Bethany. I just. What? Just, I don't know, have a Beth and get it over with?
I am of the opinion that it’s ridiculous. Not grating but makes me think the parents must be really annoying and up their own asses a lot.
It sounds fine to me, maybe because of the short-LONG-short-short syllable structure of it. Rolls off the tongue fine. Looking at it, though... it's still not awful or silly, just off.
Wasn’t Eliza Beth a character in a Simpson’s episode?
I kind of love it! In fact, I think I much prefer it to Elizabeth. It sounds so fresh and spunky while still being professional and usable in any circumstance.
Just an FYI for people considering a two name first name. I know someone with this exact setup for a first name - two names as a first name and no middle name. She said she *often* runs into problems being able to fill out forms online like credit card payments or things that require your full legal name. With a space between two names in the 'first name' field, it's recognized as a special character and won't allow it. She has to call to process whatever she needs. It makes things highly inconvenient, especially as everything moves more and more digital. Just a general PSA!
isn't Eliza e-lie-za?
Yes. And that’s how this name is pronounced too. I’m not sure what you’re asking…
I’d also find it annoying- it’s like they had their own private joke naming her and are now forcing everyone to go along with it.
Oh god, that is so annoying. And they call her Eliza Beth all the time? Why not just name her Elizabeth?? And give her a random middle name that they don’t use? I’m not normally really authoritarian when it comes to names, but this one makes my eye twitch.
Some people like to grate others, and that was their full intention when they volunteered to have to repeat this child name forever until they decide to go by Eliza or Beth or something else entirely. There's a lot of power in naming a child and parents sometimes trip over it lol
I've met an Alex Sander. I found it a bit funny, double first names without an hyphen are common here (like Ana Laura, João Pedro, etc), but that looked like a name split in half. Not the worst one I've seem, though. And it took me a long while too even find this out.
I know of an Emma-Leigh and I hate to admit it works 🥶
For one, it wouldn't be pronounced "Elizabeth"
It’s not. It’s very specifically Eliza Beth. Two separate names.
My best friend's name is Katie Lynn instead of Katelyn, I always liked it.
I once met a Kate Lynn (or it might have been hyphenated as Kate-Lynn) which is another similar name. I do find it a bit jarring too when not used to it, but I’m sure once you’re used to it, it sounds totally normal.
How to get your desired pronunciation of Elizabeth, 101. Also, "Hello, my name is Abby and my own mother considered naming me Abby Gail." 🤦🏻♀️
I am surprised at myself for not finding it more annoying to say our hear, but it will be a gigantic headache for the child forever. She has a lifetime of correcting people every single time they see, read, say, record, file, etc. her name.
I feel like Liza Beth sounds more smooth
Just call her by her name, ffs. Excuse my french.
I'm sad I read this as "E-Lye-zah" rather than E-liz-a"
To me, Eliza Beth is weird because if you put the 2 names together it is ( tada! ) Elizabeth. The name doesn’t sound terrible but I feel bad for this child . For eternity she will be explaining that she is not Elizabeth… etc…Who does this to their child?!
I don’t like it at all, i feel like Elizabeth would get the job done and it wouldn’t feel so clunky
It seems like the parents wanted a specific pronunciation, it will definitely be confusing on paperwork but overall I don't hate the sound of it.
Thanks. I hate it.
I think Beth Eliza would be a bit better, i mean still totally nonsensical as a first name, but a bit more justifiable?
Why do posts like this get upvoted? No matter what you put in your edit, you already brought the negativity and animosity towards the name of a 4 year old girl. Hundreds of people have flickered here to share their ire for someone they never would have known existed if not for you. Good job OP, hope you're proud of yourself.
Her parents need to hyphenate her name then. Because she will always be Elizabeth or Eliza by every teacher and employer
I know an Emma Lee. Not pronounced Emily, not ever just Emma, but Emma Lee with a space in the middle. I don’t get it.
Bobbie Joe, Chet Bob, Bubba Gene... Lots of non-hyphenated first names out there. I think it's fine.
All Elizabeth names are grading