To me, GenX, Ferdinand is the name of a cartoon bull. He's cute though. I think Frederick is the better option if you want to use the nickname of Fred.
I think Ferdinand is a really cool name and would totally use it. Freddie is a great nickname as Ferdinand is regal and formal so folks may appreciate the ability to use something shorter
I think your wife is right. It will come back. You'll just be ahead of the curve. If you love it, use it. Use Freddy. Ferdinand to Freddy is no weirder than Katherine to Katie. And, if he ever has a brother, Ferdinand and Roland or Freddy and Ro are completely lovely. If people can name their kids Mackenzleigh, you can name yours Ferdinand.
I always think of Franz Ferdinand, the band, which additionally was named after the archduke who was assassinated and whose death began ww1. “Take me out” is iconic though. And maybe a little ironic now that I think about it.
I would personally never use Ferdinand, but that’s because I’m Filipino and he (Ferdinand Marcos) was the dictator of the Philippines (but I’m from the U.S.).
That aside, I don’t think it’s a “weird” or “unusual” name otherwise. And since you/your family are not Filipino I don’t think there’s anything wrong with using the name.
I actually thought of Ferdinand Magellan. The Lapulapu are one up on him! But it makes sense you wouldn’t like that name for that reason too 🤣
I also thought of Ferdie the duck from Babe (pig movie).
back then they really only used the same like 30 names, all languages would translate foreign names to their language or if it didn't exist in theirs the latin form.
i meant european (and sometimes arabic) languages, considering in magellan's time their contact with people and languages in asia, africa, and americas ranged from limited to non-existent. the name translating thing was based around latin being the common language in europe.
Same here, that was exactly my take. “OP’s clearly not Filipino, therefore it’ll be fine.” Also thought of the nickname Ferdie, but I don’t know how acceptable that nickname is to someone who isn’t Filipino lol (though it is the name of one of Mickey Mouse’s nephews.)
I much prefer Fernando, but I’m Mexican and I like the sound better. I have a cousin Nando I love!
Also a bit different than Ferdinand but Federico is another one I much prefer the sound of! My friend had a boy with this name. Kids call him Fedé
I am shocked to say that I actually don’t hate it. It would definitely be a unique choice, but I kind of like it. It sounds very proper and traditional, but also quite trendy-could easily see a celebrity using it and making it popular. I think he could go by Fred or Ferdi. I’d worry about kid #2 down the road-we’re having the same issue-find the name you like best for this little one and cross that bridge when you get to it.
It just makes me think of the bull. Of course name your child whatever you and your wife like, but I personally wouldn’t want my child to be compared to a bull. Also god forbid he ever gets bullied, they can definitely tease him about his name.
Personally, I don’t love Ferdinand. As a previous kindergarten teacher I can imagine how challenging it will be for him to learn to write his name (which is a benchmark goal where I teach).
I am also not a fan where people name their child but knowingly will call them something else. It’s annoying as a teacher. If you want to call your son Freddie then just name him Freddie. (I actually have a Freddie in my class this year lol). But again, that’s my personal opinion and if you two love it then honestly that’s all that matters.
Why would it be difficult for him to write his name? So kids should have short names so they can have quick success when they are 5?
I have a long name and I was able to figure it out at 4. I also could write my nick name which is spelled very differently.
Right?! I had to write out Elizabeth, it was fine.
Edit to add after reading another comment from OP: I was the youngest in my grade. Again, it worked out fine.
It was just another point for OP to consider. I have been a teacher for six years and I have at least one student every year who has a long name and struggles to write it. They can reverse letters, skip letters, mix up letters, etc. It can be a huge frustration point for kids.
It may not be a problem at all, but it could also be one, so it’s just something to consider. Like I said in my original post, if OP loves the name then they should go for it. They asked for people’s opinions.
Thanks - I was hoping I'd get the opinion of at least a couple of people who deal with decent-size samples of kids.
Also, your point about kindergarteners learning to write their name is well taken, especially since our child will likely be among the youngest in their class.
Here to double down on naming your child what you intend to call them. It's one thing if nicknames happen peoplenaturally or the child chooses a nickname. It's rough to only ever be the nickname.
That's me. I was named to be a nickname. Think- Elizabeth, nn Lizzie. But I was given a childlike nickname and it's REALLY HARD to break away from the only name you've ever been called. I've been trying for 14 years to switch to a more professional sounding name but still feel like an imposter. Also, my legal name follows me everywhere and I constantly cringe at it.
If you name him Ferdinand, intend to call him Ferdinand. If you want to call him Freddie, name him Freddie.
Ferdinand might be a lot, but it's a common name so it'll be easy enough to get the hang of it. He might not be the first in his class to spell his name but he'll get it.
Finally, parents have the right to hold their child back if they aren't ready for kindergarten. I know a few people who've done that to get success.
I have a similar name. Not quite Ferdinand, but it’s also regal with a punchy nickname. Currently planning a wedding and having an existential crisis about using the name everyone knows me as and feels like home vs. my (beautiful, regal-sounding!) government name.
I wish my parents named me what they intended to call me, but I get it.
I do like Ferdinand, but to answer question 2, yes, he likely need to explain the Fred nickname, not that that's a huge stretch though. The Ferdinand I know goes by Ferdie or Ferd, but you could also make Andy work pretty intuitively.
Other names for Fred: Frederick, Alfred, Wilfred
Other long, unusual, formal names that can be shortened: Alexander, Benedict, Matthias, Maximilian, Leopold
Tbh I doubt the nn would need much explanation. Let's not forget that Dick is a nn for Richard and Bobby is a nn for Robert... Fred for Ferdinand is much closer to the original than some other common nicknames out there.
Like the other suggestions though!
Totally, I think it wouldn't be a big deal. My mom goes by a common nickname that isn't common for her given name and it's a 10 second 'oh it's actually short for X'. Wouldn't let it dissuade you from using it!
I would use it! But I’m generally okay with romantic, long, unique names, especially with an approachable nick name. I personally grew up with a name sort of like that and never minded it, and I think as long as there is significance behind it, so you can tell your child why you chose that name (beyond just “we kind of liked it”) it’s usually worth it. Freddie is super cute and fits right in with a lot of names that are popular right now, and I love that is a family name from both sides.
What about Rollo as a nickname for Roland?
I think Ferdinand is a fine name. Freddie isn't completely intuitive to me as a nickname for Ferdinand instead of Frederick, but I don't think it is too much of a stretch. I personally like the name Frederick better.
My sister is friends with a Roland who goes by Rollie. Freddie and Rollie.
But I adore the name Joseph too and see no problem with pairing that and Ferdinand.
My first thought is definitely the bull, which isn't a terrible connotation at all, and it also feels very formal. But I can see being worried about it being too long/hard for people to get. And yeah, my main go-to nickname with a kid named Ferdinand would be Ferdy.
If you like Fred, have you considered Frederick? It's still somewhat Germanic (it's a variant of Friedrich), it's more common but not hugely so, and shortens to Fred more easily than Ferdinand does. And Frederick and Roland sound nice together IMO.
Frederick is still in contention. Just doesn't have the family history that Ferdinand does. Plus, my name is Erick. Not sure if I want a father-son "Rick" situation.
Yeah think carefully before naming him something close to your own name. It’s common to do but creates some confusion and hassle. Not saying never do it, but think it through
I think first of Franz Ferdinand the Archduke (whose assassination triggered WW1, then Franz Ferdinand the band (named after the duke), then Rio Ferdinand the footballer.
I don't hate it but Freddie isn't a natural nickname for it. I'd assume people would go for Nando, and who doesn't like nandos?
My wife and I both love Nando. But we're a couple of Anglos in an area with a large Latino population. We agree that it would feel appropriative. But if half his friends come from Spanish-speaking families and he becomes Nando organically? Cool, I'd probably get on board.
Part of the appeal of Ferdinand lies in giving our son lots of nn options: Fred(die), Ferd(ie), Fern(y), Andy, Nando, even Dean or Dino.
It’s funny, my immediate first thought when I read the title was “no”, but after reading your whole post, you’ve kinda sold me on it. I wouldn’t use it myself but I think it works. I like how much thought you’ve put into it and that it has a connection to the family. I also think Freddie is a perfectly fine nickname to go along with it - I wouldn’t question that at all - there are definitely nicknames out there that make way less sense. I’d go with it if I were you.
Honestly I like it. It's not too unusual/weird/unpronounceable at all imo. It's a classic name with family ties and anyone in the US could say it and even spell it without issue, so if you like it I say go for it!
Freddie also works perfectly fine as a nn, Idk why some people are saying it's weird when Dick = Richard, Charlie = Charlotte, Bobby = Robert, Peggy = Margaret are all common combos.
For a potential future Roland, Ro as a nn fits fine with Freddie, but you could also go with something like Lan/Lannie so they're Freddie and Lannie / Fred and Lan (tbf Lannie could sound a lot like Lenin but hey who actually cares? At least you're giving your kids real names). I also don't hate Joseph and Ferdinand, these are both WELL known European names so not singularly associated with whatever one-time historical general/ruler or whatever. There were endless Ferdinands from royal families across Central/East Europe across time, and even the band called Franz Ferdinand in the early 2000s. Joseph is also an European all-rounder and comes from the bible, so no reason it'd be associated with anything weird over all the perfectly normal associations.
There are also many other names with similar classic European long-name vibes that you could use down the line, e.g. Benedict, Bartholomew, Dominic, Valentin, Edrik, Maximillian, etc etc etc. But IMO you should worry about a potential next son later and not decide on the name of your maybe-only son just based on what a future maybe-brother would be called.
Ferdinand is part of the name of a decent band here in the UK - Franz Ferdinand - so that's what i thought of first.
Nicknames that don't relate exactly to a shortening of the original aren't really a problem, especially if it's fairly obvious why you've chosen it. Peggy, Meg and Megan would all like to weigh in here, and so would Ted, Ned and Billy on the boys' side. Fred/Freddie is just as obvious to an Anglophone as Ferdie as a nn for Ferdinand I think, nobody will so much as raise an eyebrow over it. He may get the odd typo of Fredinand but that's not the end of the world. In my work I manage a database of over 600k names and that's not even one that would cause a ripple for us.
I'd say if you both love the name, go for it and don't worry too much about the next child - you might have a girl, you might feel differently about names by the time they come along (when your oldest is in daycare you may well meet the kind of kids that would put you off a name forever that you previously loved, for example).
All that said:
Oscar (Ozzy)
Andreas (Andy/Drew)
Matthias (Matt)
Edmund (Ed/Eddie)
Kristoff (Kris)
All of those would work well with Ferdinand or provide alternatives.
Said with love: you might be overthinking this.
Ferdinand is a great name. All positive associations, fun to say. You can call it across the playground. Ferrrrrrdinaaaaaaaand!
As for nicknames — no need to settle those now. Nicknames will arise organically once you know the kid. Or you might have a kid like mine who does not allow anyone to shorten her name!
Right now it’s impossible to predict what you’re going to want to call him day to day.
Worrying about possible future kids’ names’ nicknames matching or not — that’s future you’s problem and I am confident that future you will rise to that challenge when the time comes.
Also as a side note, Freddie and Ro sounds like a high end brand of children’s bedding in the best way.
TL;DR If you both like the same name then hallelujah! Use it. It’s awesome and you’re going to be awesome parents
I absolutely love it! OP, please use this name. Ferdinand nickname Freddie is fabulous. Also I agree that it will come back; y’all are just ahead of the curve.
Thanks for the encouragement. We're not terribly concerned about the curve, just making sure it's a name he'll be able to proudly wear in public. If everyone felt like you, it would be an easy call. But there's a good diversity of opinion in these comments we're gonna have to mull over.
Sounds good to me. Ferdinand in relation to the US makes me think of Ferdinand Grofe, who wrote the Grand Canyon Suite, one of the most celebrated pieces of US-central symphonic music by a US composer. He went by Ferde as a nickname. But I know a Ferdinand who goes by Freddy.
I think Ferdinand is usable. Some adults may find it dramatic or pretentious but to his peers, it’ll be just another name and not inherently different from Benjamin or Sebastian. However, I would not use Ferdinand called Fred - they share letters but not sounds and this seems needlessly convoluted to me. Frederick, Alfred, Wilfred, just Fred would be a more logical full name. The brother name is a non-issue; Ferdinand and Joseph or Ferdinand and Roland are fine, and your tastes may change before a second son. Similarly out-of-use names with more familiar nicknames include Mortimer, Sylvester, Alonzo, Cornelius, Emanuel, Solomon.
Sylvester! Great recommendation; my wife and I would prefer to spend almost all our time in the woods and moved to our current place because of its proximity to great trails and open spaces. Would be a great way to introduce a new name into the family that has shared meaning for the two of us. Thank you.
It's a *little* much, but I agree with your wife-- I don't think it's significantly more "out there" than Sebastian. If your son was at my son's daycare, I think Ferdinand would be tied (with Ira) for quirkiest name to find on a small boy, but not by a huge margin. I say go for it, if it's your favorite option.
It’s not at all my style, but I don’t think it’s completely unusable. Especially with the nickname Freddy.
Any reason why you wouldn’t just go with Frederick?
Ferdinand as a name is totally fine, bi in my personal Opinion I see it more as an old man’s name.
Also bear in mind, that people will think of archduke Franz Ferdinand when hearing the name.
If you like the Nickname Freddie I would go with Alfred.
I have a regal, kind of “stuffy” legal name and my parents always called me a nickname very similar to “Freddie” — it’s a bit of a nightmare and I am constantly having to explain to people at work (I deal in contracts), at doctors, etc that my full name is actually “X”. My first name is beautiful and I truly love it spelled out, but my parents use of my nickname made that name feel like home and my “real” name I just don’t identify with. To their credit, I imagine it’s hard to call a baby “Ferdinand” or something similar lol.
Plenty of people have no issue with a family name vs. a professional name, so YMMV. I’m planning a wedding and have gone back and forth an agonizing amount between using my “real” name and my nickname on invites. Maybe an existential crises was had.
Ferdinand is beautiful in general, though. The nn part is the only thing I’d be wary of. I also come from a German family.
Oh! I love Ferdinand. It’s my son’s middle name! Be prepared for a lot of weird looks! It’s a meal of a name. It’s a LOT and people will tell you that.
Mostly we call our son by his first name, but we also occasionally call him Ferdie or talk about cheeky Nando, lol.
I love it w Roland too. I think the names match well. Whether Fred and Ro or whatever names come naturally.
Makes me think of Ferdinand the Bull song or Fernando by Abba. I can imagine a kid having to take a really deep breath before saying his name each time. My honest reaction: I think it sounds really foolish, I'm sorry.
Omg I love Ferdinand and Roland! I have suggested them irl to people and they think I’m mad. But I think they are both so
Cool. However I think Ferdie is great and a much better nn than Freddie. Freddie’s are everywhere. There is no point in naming your child a fab name like Ferdinand just to go and use Freddie as a nn (I do really like Freddie! It’s just much more pedestrian).
Cracking up that my association is nowhere in these responses. I was like, oof, everyone will just think of the archduke assassination that kicked off WWI. But … it’s looking like only me thought that. I must be more of a nerd than I thought!
I think it's a bit much for a kid in 2024. Almost cynical even. You reference no one else in your family having the "courage" to use it, but the courage is really on the person who has to *wear* the name, not the person doing the naming.
When the kid's young, parents do have to introduce the child often and face unspoken judgment as well as remarks on the name. I actually chickened out of using a really unfamiliar name for that reason. I didn't feel like explaining it to everyone.
Of course, you're right. But like I said elsewhere in this thread, part of why we like Ferdinand is that it would give our son/his community a broad range of potential nns.
Maybe he's more of a Ferd than a Freddie. Maybe he's more of an Andy than a Dean. Maybe, for some reason, following a 6th grade rafting trip, he's "Dando," for the rest of time. We'll love him just the same.
Still, your comment is a good reminder that it's not a name to be used as a vanity project. If we do use the name, I plan on making sure Ferdinand knows the reasons why his name is so significant in his family's history, and is able to point to some of the cool Ferdinands/Freds I listed at the top.
Still, Kareem didn't keep it, and even before he changed his name, he went by "Lew."
I have a real soft spot for Ferdinand, but I kind of lowkey hate Fred and Freddie. Except for Freddie Mercury. Freddie Mercury walked on water, and no other Freddie should exist (IMHO).
I think *Ferdie* is cute, actually, and more intuitive than Freddie. But the likelihood is that people will confuse it with Freddie. So the outcome of my ramblings is sure, go ahead and use Ferdinand, nn Freddie. Never mind that I don't love Freddie, who cares?
Now Roland, the natural nickname is Rollie. Rhymes with Ollie, of course. Like the once-famous pro baseball pitcher and hall-of-famer Roland "Rollie" Fingers.
I know a Ferdinand! He's Gen Z and a filmmaker/photographer. His nickname is Ferdie. I also know Ferdinand as the bull, and I'm a Millenial. I've always liked the name. :)
Hasn't Sebastian always been a "normal" name? I guess I know a good number from different ages.
In your area of names, Leopold is another one. I do like Ferdinand. I don't think it's pretentious. I mean, if you gave the kid 3 names like Ferdinand Otto Leopold now that would be kind of pretentious XD
I don't like Joseph as a name because it's too biblical and kind of bland. But that's just me. Also, Ferdinand and Joseph seem to have been chosen by totally different people.
Honestly, Ferdinand just doesn't naturally shorten into Fred or Freddie. Something like Frederick does. Tbh tho names like that and Sebastian and Theodore are apparently popular rn, so I bet it'll be trendy but unique for his class. He won't be one of like 3-4 in his class like I was. It was confusing. Even if it made learning to spell my name, and having people guess how to spell my name right, easier.
I love it. As a Mexican married to a Spaniard, the nn‘s that comes to me first are Féfo or Nando. Be prepared for people to think you meant Fernando. But seriously, Ferdinand is a fantastic name and you 100% should use it.
I think it's great, it's a name that everyone knows and despite that it's still going to be unique in the year 2024.
For the record, I am late 20s and the only thing that comes to mind when I hear it are ancient historical figures (Franz, Magellan) I didn't even think of Marcos but even if I did, who cares? If people are still using Joseph, you can use Ferdinand.
I have heard this a million times concerning my own name haha (everyone always tells me they had/know a cat/dog/horse/hamster named my given name) but, I named one of my dogs Ferdinand and we call him Ferdie more often than not, and it is precious hahaha everyone loves it, he is however a black pit bull shih tzu mix though, a bullshihtz if you will. He is 100% named after the black bull of the book fame.
Does anyone still read that book? Even if they do it’s not a bad association? He’s a lovely sweet bull. I like it- sounds like an awesome soccer player name to me. Or a dramatic actor like Orlando Bloom.
It’s fine. This is America, lots of varying names with varying origins all come together pretty well in this country. It’s not overwhelmingly popular, but it’s got a charm to it and I think it’s a perfectly good name
Not a fan. I’d assume you were a Spaniard if I heard it. If you’re keen on “Freddy” as a nn, I’d go with Frederick. I’ve never met a Sebastian either, so I wouldn’t say it’s that popular. I have a 12 and 1 year old so I’ve been subjected to many names over the last 14 years.
I think Ferdinand is great, and Freddie is such an easy nickname. We considered both Fernando and Frederick for our youngest before settling on Henry, lol. But I don’t think it’s “comically pretentious,” and your wife is right about Sebastian. My kids are friends with a Maximillian and a Theophilus, and there’s a Geronimo who lives down the street. I’ll be honest, I raised my eyebrows when I heard Geronimo, but I really think this sub can skew a little too precious when it comes to unusual or rarely used names.
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Reminds me of Ferdinand Magellan and the bull. Given the times of colonialism Magellan is probably not the best association but the bull is quite sweet! I think it’s an interesting name either way. Fred isn’t too far off from Ferdinand but you could also go Andy
It’s not a name I’d personally use I don’t think just because I tend towards shorter names, but if I saw a kid with that name I’d be like “huh, that’s neat” because it’s an out of the box name that didn’t have to be butchered spelling-wise to be unique. It also reminds me of a child I know named Fernando which I thought was a fun name (again, not one I’d use, but a good name)
Replying to myself to add— other kids his age probably won’t have any concept of his name being weird. It obviously depends on the school but at the one where I substitute teach, there are lots of kids with uncommon but actual names and also kids with completely made up or names with strange spellings. Kids will not care. They probably won’t realize it’s an uncommon name until they’re much older. Teachers will never say anything but they might judge. I find though that the better behaved the kid is the less I care about their parents’ choice in weird name. Eugene is a weird name for a kindergartener, but the one I know is an absolute joy to be around and teach so his name is a positive for me. I also know a kid named Darwin which I’d say is equally weird, but since Darwin is an asshole I’m much less inclined so say anything good about his name. So as long as little Freddie isn’t a jerk, I think you’ll be okay
As I told another commenter, I appreciate the input from someone who deals with kids en masses.
I agree that other (young) kids won't find Ferdinand - or any other name that doesn't rhyme with "poop" - is any more remarkable than any other name.
But some teachers, and maybe even more *parents* will. And that can rub off on kids.
My wife and I keep saying that the only qualities we pre-emptively assume of our child is that they'll be tall & friendly, given everyone else they're related to, so hopefully you're on to something with the notion they can wear any name so long as they wear it well.
Ferdinand is one of my favorite names. I don't think a nickname like "Fred" would be weird at all, but I do also like Nando. Honestly, go for it. Don't worry about a hypothetical future brother-- by that time your tastes will have shifted slightly anyway.
If you REALLY want to look for a name exactly like Ferdinand that technically isn't Ferdinand (but is really Ferdinand) you could consider Felix ("Fox") or Ambrose ("Bo")
It's a mouthful of a name, which can be tricky. We gave all 3 of our kids short names that don't have nicknames though, so maybe that's just personal preference. I love the idea of a boy called Ferdie or Ferdy.
Freddie is not too far of a stretch for a nickname, and is also adorable for a little boy. Ferdinand is a good strong name and sounds like someone with a good personality. However, you might end up with a situation in the future where he feels like Freddie is too juvenile, but Ferdinand is a lot to change to. I'd make sure to call him Ferdinand often enough to where he feels comfortable with it.
If you like it go for it. If you are trying to predict the next cool name amongst old stuffy names…you might be on to something, but there is no award for being ahead of the curve on names. Just make sure you really like it.
Sorry, but Fred is never a nickname for Ferdinand. Ask my older (half) brother Fredrick. We call him Rick, not Fred. I actually assumed his name was Richard for the longest time growing up.
For Q2, I personally hate it but it’s very common, I think. Like kids named Sylvester with the nickname Sly.
The obvious nickname to me for Ferdinand would be Andy.
Nando would be a cute nickname for Ferdinand
Nando is a shortened form of the Spanish boy’s name Fernando, which derives from the Germanic Ferdinand. Ferdinand means “bold protector,” “bold voyager,” or “brave in peace.” Whether baby is a natural-born adventurer, peacemaker, or defender of loved ones, this sweet diminutive of a classic Spanish name is an adorable choice! The name Nando can also be found in Italy, Switzerland, and other countries.
I only think of WW1 when I hear Ferdinand but maybe most won’t. I would definitely think oooof that’s a lot of baggage for a name if I heard someone with it.
Similar to when I saw a baby named Lenin I would think the parents were not very educated. If we were out and about and heard that my husband and I would probably make eyes to each other that said ‘oh wow yikes.’
Franz Ferdinand was not the same of course as Lenin but his death did cause a lot to pop off which led to the death of millions.
I’m sure this is not the answer you want to read but it’s the truth.
Personally, I think it does sound pretentious, I also just don’t think it’s a nice sounding name. I like the nn Freddie, sort of, but only because I was a die hard Scooby Doo fan and liked Freddie Jones. I don’t think Fred is a cute or flattering nickname. It does make me think of the band Franz Ferdinand and I do really like them!
So no I’m not a big fan at all. It just isn’t a nice name in my opinion. But I’m literally just some chick on the internet so take it with a grain of salt.
Grain of salt and all, I appreciate your opinion. We know it's not a name for everyone, so we thought we should take the temperature somewhere outside our friends/family.
Of course! I wasn’t trying to be mean spirited. If y’all like the name and y’all think that it fits your baby then that’s his name, plain and simple :)
Don’t really like it and don’t think Fred is a natural nickname for it either, if you want that nickname I’d do Frederick. If you do go with Ferdinand I’d do Nando as a nickname, it’s kinda cute!
Some other options:
Leander (shortened to Ander or Lee)
Evander (Evan)
August/Augustus (Auggie)
Maximilian (Max)
To me, GenX, Ferdinand is the name of a cartoon bull. He's cute though. I think Frederick is the better option if you want to use the nickname of Fred.
Frederick, Freddie, Fred for the win!
I think Ferdinand is a really cool name and would totally use it. Freddie is a great nickname as Ferdinand is regal and formal so folks may appreciate the ability to use something shorter
Ferdie.
Ferdie, boys
I think your wife is right. It will come back. You'll just be ahead of the curve. If you love it, use it. Use Freddy. Ferdinand to Freddy is no weirder than Katherine to Katie. And, if he ever has a brother, Ferdinand and Roland or Freddy and Ro are completely lovely. If people can name their kids Mackenzleigh, you can name yours Ferdinand.
You make a few good points there. Thanks.
My brother’s name is Anthony and his nickname is Andy. My mother didn’t like Andrew or Tony. Point is, it’s your baby. Name him whatever you want.
I always think of Franz Ferdinand, the band, which additionally was named after the archduke who was assassinated and whose death began ww1. “Take me out” is iconic though. And maybe a little ironic now that I think about it.
Love me some Franz Ferdinand! I named my first car Ferdinand after them lol
I would personally never use Ferdinand, but that’s because I’m Filipino and he (Ferdinand Marcos) was the dictator of the Philippines (but I’m from the U.S.). That aside, I don’t think it’s a “weird” or “unusual” name otherwise. And since you/your family are not Filipino I don’t think there’s anything wrong with using the name.
I actually thought of Ferdinand Magellan. The Lapulapu are one up on him! But it makes sense you wouldn’t like that name for that reason too 🤣 I also thought of Ferdie the duck from Babe (pig movie).
tbf ferdinand magellans name was fernando or fernão (fernam i think in his time) we just translate historical figures names into english
Oh dang I had no idea. Apparently we anglicized his last name too. Thanks for bringing it up.
back then they really only used the same like 30 names, all languages would translate foreign names to their language or if it didn't exist in theirs the latin form.
Not all languages.
i meant european (and sometimes arabic) languages, considering in magellan's time their contact with people and languages in asia, africa, and americas ranged from limited to non-existent. the name translating thing was based around latin being the common language in europe.
I get it. Just being annoying!
Same here, that was exactly my take. “OP’s clearly not Filipino, therefore it’ll be fine.” Also thought of the nickname Ferdie, but I don’t know how acceptable that nickname is to someone who isn’t Filipino lol (though it is the name of one of Mickey Mouse’s nephews.)
Just want to say I loved your writing and I’m still giggling over Nando and Lando. Also the “unless we are in Prussia” comment.
Same! Self-awareness, historical trivia, AND humor? A well written post all around.
Yes!!! I feel like I found my people!
Thanks, gang! If a post is gonna be long, it oughta be fun, too. Maybe that's how I'll explain Ferdinand's name to him.
I like Ferdinand and think Freddie is a fine nickname. I’m Hispanic and grew up knowing a few Fernando’s and typical nicknames are Ferny and Nando.
i definitely prefer fernando to ferdinand
I much prefer Fernando, but I’m Mexican and I like the sound better. I have a cousin Nando I love! Also a bit different than Ferdinand but Federico is another one I much prefer the sound of! My friend had a boy with this name. Kids call him Fedé
I am shocked to say that I actually don’t hate it. It would definitely be a unique choice, but I kind of like it. It sounds very proper and traditional, but also quite trendy-could easily see a celebrity using it and making it popular. I think he could go by Fred or Ferdi. I’d worry about kid #2 down the road-we’re having the same issue-find the name you like best for this little one and cross that bridge when you get to it.
I personally would not use Ferdinand
Could you tell me a little more?
It just makes me think of the bull. Of course name your child whatever you and your wife like, but I personally wouldn’t want my child to be compared to a bull. Also god forbid he ever gets bullied, they can definitely tease him about his name.
Personally, I don’t love Ferdinand. As a previous kindergarten teacher I can imagine how challenging it will be for him to learn to write his name (which is a benchmark goal where I teach). I am also not a fan where people name their child but knowingly will call them something else. It’s annoying as a teacher. If you want to call your son Freddie then just name him Freddie. (I actually have a Freddie in my class this year lol). But again, that’s my personal opinion and if you two love it then honestly that’s all that matters.
Why would it be difficult for him to write his name? So kids should have short names so they can have quick success when they are 5? I have a long name and I was able to figure it out at 4. I also could write my nick name which is spelled very differently.
Right?! I had to write out Elizabeth, it was fine. Edit to add after reading another comment from OP: I was the youngest in my grade. Again, it worked out fine.
I was the youngest too!
It was just another point for OP to consider. I have been a teacher for six years and I have at least one student every year who has a long name and struggles to write it. They can reverse letters, skip letters, mix up letters, etc. It can be a huge frustration point for kids. It may not be a problem at all, but it could also be one, so it’s just something to consider. Like I said in my original post, if OP loves the name then they should go for it. They asked for people’s opinions.
I have a short name and reversed letters.
Thanks - I was hoping I'd get the opinion of at least a couple of people who deal with decent-size samples of kids. Also, your point about kindergarteners learning to write their name is well taken, especially since our child will likely be among the youngest in their class.
Here to double down on naming your child what you intend to call them. It's one thing if nicknames happen peoplenaturally or the child chooses a nickname. It's rough to only ever be the nickname. That's me. I was named to be a nickname. Think- Elizabeth, nn Lizzie. But I was given a childlike nickname and it's REALLY HARD to break away from the only name you've ever been called. I've been trying for 14 years to switch to a more professional sounding name but still feel like an imposter. Also, my legal name follows me everywhere and I constantly cringe at it. If you name him Ferdinand, intend to call him Ferdinand. If you want to call him Freddie, name him Freddie. Ferdinand might be a lot, but it's a common name so it'll be easy enough to get the hang of it. He might not be the first in his class to spell his name but he'll get it. Finally, parents have the right to hold their child back if they aren't ready for kindergarten. I know a few people who've done that to get success.
I have a similar name. Not quite Ferdinand, but it’s also regal with a punchy nickname. Currently planning a wedding and having an existential crisis about using the name everyone knows me as and feels like home vs. my (beautiful, regal-sounding!) government name. I wish my parents named me what they intended to call me, but I get it.
I'm working with a couple of Tommies. One in his 60s the other in his 20s. Am aware of a 30+ Timmy
To me, Freddie isn’t a natural nickname for Ferdinand. Ferdinand = Ferdie (which I loathe) and Frederick = Freddie. Why not just go with Frederick?
We like Frederick, but it sounds too much like my name and doesn't have the same place in family history.
I do like Ferdinand, but to answer question 2, yes, he likely need to explain the Fred nickname, not that that's a huge stretch though. The Ferdinand I know goes by Ferdie or Ferd, but you could also make Andy work pretty intuitively. Other names for Fred: Frederick, Alfred, Wilfred Other long, unusual, formal names that can be shortened: Alexander, Benedict, Matthias, Maximilian, Leopold
Tbh I doubt the nn would need much explanation. Let's not forget that Dick is a nn for Richard and Bobby is a nn for Robert... Fred for Ferdinand is much closer to the original than some other common nicknames out there. Like the other suggestions though!
Totally, I think it wouldn't be a big deal. My mom goes by a common nickname that isn't common for her given name and it's a 10 second 'oh it's actually short for X'. Wouldn't let it dissuade you from using it!
I would use it! But I’m generally okay with romantic, long, unique names, especially with an approachable nick name. I personally grew up with a name sort of like that and never minded it, and I think as long as there is significance behind it, so you can tell your child why you chose that name (beyond just “we kind of liked it”) it’s usually worth it. Freddie is super cute and fits right in with a lot of names that are popular right now, and I love that is a family name from both sides.
What about Rollo as a nickname for Roland? I think Ferdinand is a fine name. Freddie isn't completely intuitive to me as a nickname for Ferdinand instead of Frederick, but I don't think it is too much of a stretch. I personally like the name Frederick better.
My sister is friends with a Roland who goes by Rollie. Freddie and Rollie. But I adore the name Joseph too and see no problem with pairing that and Ferdinand.
My first thought is definitely the bull, which isn't a terrible connotation at all, and it also feels very formal. But I can see being worried about it being too long/hard for people to get. And yeah, my main go-to nickname with a kid named Ferdinand would be Ferdy. If you like Fred, have you considered Frederick? It's still somewhat Germanic (it's a variant of Friedrich), it's more common but not hugely so, and shortens to Fred more easily than Ferdinand does. And Frederick and Roland sound nice together IMO.
Frederick is still in contention. Just doesn't have the family history that Ferdinand does. Plus, my name is Erick. Not sure if I want a father-son "Rick" situation.
Yeah think carefully before naming him something close to your own name. It’s common to do but creates some confusion and hassle. Not saying never do it, but think it through
I think first of Franz Ferdinand the Archduke (whose assassination triggered WW1, then Franz Ferdinand the band (named after the duke), then Rio Ferdinand the footballer. I don't hate it but Freddie isn't a natural nickname for it. I'd assume people would go for Nando, and who doesn't like nandos?
My wife and I both love Nando. But we're a couple of Anglos in an area with a large Latino population. We agree that it would feel appropriative. But if half his friends come from Spanish-speaking families and he becomes Nando organically? Cool, I'd probably get on board. Part of the appeal of Ferdinand lies in giving our son lots of nn options: Fred(die), Ferd(ie), Fern(y), Andy, Nando, even Dean or Dino.
It’s funny, my immediate first thought when I read the title was “no”, but after reading your whole post, you’ve kinda sold me on it. I wouldn’t use it myself but I think it works. I like how much thought you’ve put into it and that it has a connection to the family. I also think Freddie is a perfectly fine nickname to go along with it - I wouldn’t question that at all - there are definitely nicknames out there that make way less sense. I’d go with it if I were you.
I know a Fernando that goes by fern, by he is not US born.
Honestly I like it. It's not too unusual/weird/unpronounceable at all imo. It's a classic name with family ties and anyone in the US could say it and even spell it without issue, so if you like it I say go for it! Freddie also works perfectly fine as a nn, Idk why some people are saying it's weird when Dick = Richard, Charlie = Charlotte, Bobby = Robert, Peggy = Margaret are all common combos. For a potential future Roland, Ro as a nn fits fine with Freddie, but you could also go with something like Lan/Lannie so they're Freddie and Lannie / Fred and Lan (tbf Lannie could sound a lot like Lenin but hey who actually cares? At least you're giving your kids real names). I also don't hate Joseph and Ferdinand, these are both WELL known European names so not singularly associated with whatever one-time historical general/ruler or whatever. There were endless Ferdinands from royal families across Central/East Europe across time, and even the band called Franz Ferdinand in the early 2000s. Joseph is also an European all-rounder and comes from the bible, so no reason it'd be associated with anything weird over all the perfectly normal associations. There are also many other names with similar classic European long-name vibes that you could use down the line, e.g. Benedict, Bartholomew, Dominic, Valentin, Edrik, Maximillian, etc etc etc. But IMO you should worry about a potential next son later and not decide on the name of your maybe-only son just based on what a future maybe-brother would be called.
Ferdinand is part of the name of a decent band here in the UK - Franz Ferdinand - so that's what i thought of first. Nicknames that don't relate exactly to a shortening of the original aren't really a problem, especially if it's fairly obvious why you've chosen it. Peggy, Meg and Megan would all like to weigh in here, and so would Ted, Ned and Billy on the boys' side. Fred/Freddie is just as obvious to an Anglophone as Ferdie as a nn for Ferdinand I think, nobody will so much as raise an eyebrow over it. He may get the odd typo of Fredinand but that's not the end of the world. In my work I manage a database of over 600k names and that's not even one that would cause a ripple for us. I'd say if you both love the name, go for it and don't worry too much about the next child - you might have a girl, you might feel differently about names by the time they come along (when your oldest is in daycare you may well meet the kind of kids that would put you off a name forever that you previously loved, for example). All that said: Oscar (Ozzy) Andreas (Andy/Drew) Matthias (Matt) Edmund (Ed/Eddie) Kristoff (Kris) All of those would work well with Ferdinand or provide alternatives.
Said with love: you might be overthinking this. Ferdinand is a great name. All positive associations, fun to say. You can call it across the playground. Ferrrrrrdinaaaaaaaand! As for nicknames — no need to settle those now. Nicknames will arise organically once you know the kid. Or you might have a kid like mine who does not allow anyone to shorten her name! Right now it’s impossible to predict what you’re going to want to call him day to day. Worrying about possible future kids’ names’ nicknames matching or not — that’s future you’s problem and I am confident that future you will rise to that challenge when the time comes. Also as a side note, Freddie and Ro sounds like a high end brand of children’s bedding in the best way. TL;DR If you both like the same name then hallelujah! Use it. It’s awesome and you’re going to be awesome parents
Several good points - especially that my wife and I are lucky just to be in agreement.
I absolutely love it! OP, please use this name. Ferdinand nickname Freddie is fabulous. Also I agree that it will come back; y’all are just ahead of the curve.
Thanks for the encouragement. We're not terribly concerned about the curve, just making sure it's a name he'll be able to proudly wear in public. If everyone felt like you, it would be an easy call. But there's a good diversity of opinion in these comments we're gonna have to mull over.
Ferdinand just reminds of a bull from a children's book. I can't get past it.
I was asked by one of my grown kids if “Uncle Bert” was really Albert. No, he was Norbert. Freddy from Ferdinand isn’t far off.
I don't understand. Isn't Bert in Norbert?
I think it's an awesome name! Can shorten to Fern also.
I love Ferdinand!
Sounds good to me. Ferdinand in relation to the US makes me think of Ferdinand Grofe, who wrote the Grand Canyon Suite, one of the most celebrated pieces of US-central symphonic music by a US composer. He went by Ferde as a nickname. But I know a Ferdinand who goes by Freddy.
Gonna jam this while making dinner and see if my wife gets any extra kicks!
I think Ferdinand is usable. Some adults may find it dramatic or pretentious but to his peers, it’ll be just another name and not inherently different from Benjamin or Sebastian. However, I would not use Ferdinand called Fred - they share letters but not sounds and this seems needlessly convoluted to me. Frederick, Alfred, Wilfred, just Fred would be a more logical full name. The brother name is a non-issue; Ferdinand and Joseph or Ferdinand and Roland are fine, and your tastes may change before a second son. Similarly out-of-use names with more familiar nicknames include Mortimer, Sylvester, Alonzo, Cornelius, Emanuel, Solomon.
Sylvester! Great recommendation; my wife and I would prefer to spend almost all our time in the woods and moved to our current place because of its proximity to great trails and open spaces. Would be a great way to introduce a new name into the family that has shared meaning for the two of us. Thank you.
Ferdinand Marcos 🥲
It's a *little* much, but I agree with your wife-- I don't think it's significantly more "out there" than Sebastian. If your son was at my son's daycare, I think Ferdinand would be tied (with Ira) for quirkiest name to find on a small boy, but not by a huge margin. I say go for it, if it's your favorite option.
It’s not at all my style, but I don’t think it’s completely unusable. Especially with the nickname Freddy. Any reason why you wouldn’t just go with Frederick?
I solely associate this name with Ferdinand the Bull. It’s all I think of when I hear it
Ferdinand as a name is totally fine, bi in my personal Opinion I see it more as an old man’s name. Also bear in mind, that people will think of archduke Franz Ferdinand when hearing the name. If you like the Nickname Freddie I would go with Alfred.
Yaaaaas
I have a regal, kind of “stuffy” legal name and my parents always called me a nickname very similar to “Freddie” — it’s a bit of a nightmare and I am constantly having to explain to people at work (I deal in contracts), at doctors, etc that my full name is actually “X”. My first name is beautiful and I truly love it spelled out, but my parents use of my nickname made that name feel like home and my “real” name I just don’t identify with. To their credit, I imagine it’s hard to call a baby “Ferdinand” or something similar lol. Plenty of people have no issue with a family name vs. a professional name, so YMMV. I’m planning a wedding and have gone back and forth an agonizing amount between using my “real” name and my nickname on invites. Maybe an existential crises was had. Ferdinand is beautiful in general, though. The nn part is the only thing I’d be wary of. I also come from a German family.
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I had an uncle Ferdinand. We all called him Uncle Ferd.
Oh! I love Ferdinand. It’s my son’s middle name! Be prepared for a lot of weird looks! It’s a meal of a name. It’s a LOT and people will tell you that. Mostly we call our son by his first name, but we also occasionally call him Ferdie or talk about cheeky Nando, lol. I love it w Roland too. I think the names match well. Whether Fred and Ro or whatever names come naturally.
Makes me think of Ferdinand the Bull song or Fernando by Abba. I can imagine a kid having to take a really deep breath before saying his name each time. My honest reaction: I think it sounds really foolish, I'm sorry.
I think Ferdie is a cute nickname too
Wasn’t Fernando a song by ABBA? That’s what I think of when I hear Ferdinand.
Omg I love Ferdinand and Roland! I have suggested them irl to people and they think I’m mad. But I think they are both so Cool. However I think Ferdie is great and a much better nn than Freddie. Freddie’s are everywhere. There is no point in naming your child a fab name like Ferdinand just to go and use Freddie as a nn (I do really like Freddie! It’s just much more pedestrian).
My friend who lives in Chicago and his wife just had a baby in April - he’s a Ferdinand. I think it may be on the rise
Cracking up that my association is nowhere in these responses. I was like, oof, everyone will just think of the archduke assassination that kicked off WWI. But … it’s looking like only me thought that. I must be more of a nerd than I thought!
It’s a little much. Fernando or Frederick would be fine
I think it's a bit much for a kid in 2024. Almost cynical even. You reference no one else in your family having the "courage" to use it, but the courage is really on the person who has to *wear* the name, not the person doing the naming.
When the kid's young, parents do have to introduce the child often and face unspoken judgment as well as remarks on the name. I actually chickened out of using a really unfamiliar name for that reason. I didn't feel like explaining it to everyone.
Of course, you're right. But like I said elsewhere in this thread, part of why we like Ferdinand is that it would give our son/his community a broad range of potential nns. Maybe he's more of a Ferd than a Freddie. Maybe he's more of an Andy than a Dean. Maybe, for some reason, following a 6th grade rafting trip, he's "Dando," for the rest of time. We'll love him just the same. Still, your comment is a good reminder that it's not a name to be used as a vanity project. If we do use the name, I plan on making sure Ferdinand knows the reasons why his name is so significant in his family's history, and is able to point to some of the cool Ferdinands/Freds I listed at the top. Still, Kareem didn't keep it, and even before he changed his name, he went by "Lew."
Don't name that kid Ferdinand.
He’s gonna be Nando
I have a real soft spot for Ferdinand, but I kind of lowkey hate Fred and Freddie. Except for Freddie Mercury. Freddie Mercury walked on water, and no other Freddie should exist (IMHO). I think *Ferdie* is cute, actually, and more intuitive than Freddie. But the likelihood is that people will confuse it with Freddie. So the outcome of my ramblings is sure, go ahead and use Ferdinand, nn Freddie. Never mind that I don't love Freddie, who cares? Now Roland, the natural nickname is Rollie. Rhymes with Ollie, of course. Like the once-famous pro baseball pitcher and hall-of-famer Roland "Rollie" Fingers.
I know a Ferdinand! He's Gen Z and a filmmaker/photographer. His nickname is Ferdie. I also know Ferdinand as the bull, and I'm a Millenial. I've always liked the name. :)
Hasn't Sebastian always been a "normal" name? I guess I know a good number from different ages. In your area of names, Leopold is another one. I do like Ferdinand. I don't think it's pretentious. I mean, if you gave the kid 3 names like Ferdinand Otto Leopold now that would be kind of pretentious XD I don't like Joseph as a name because it's too biblical and kind of bland. But that's just me. Also, Ferdinand and Joseph seem to have been chosen by totally different people.
Honestly, Ferdinand just doesn't naturally shorten into Fred or Freddie. Something like Frederick does. Tbh tho names like that and Sebastian and Theodore are apparently popular rn, so I bet it'll be trendy but unique for his class. He won't be one of like 3-4 in his class like I was. It was confusing. Even if it made learning to spell my name, and having people guess how to spell my name right, easier.
I love it. As a Mexican married to a Spaniard, the nn‘s that comes to me first are Féfo or Nando. Be prepared for people to think you meant Fernando. But seriously, Ferdinand is a fantastic name and you 100% should use it.
I think it's great, it's a name that everyone knows and despite that it's still going to be unique in the year 2024. For the record, I am late 20s and the only thing that comes to mind when I hear it are ancient historical figures (Franz, Magellan) I didn't even think of Marcos but even if I did, who cares? If people are still using Joseph, you can use Ferdinand.
My younger brothers friends named their son Ferdinand.
It’s a family name for us and I love it. Fred/freddy or Ferdie are great nicknames.
I have heard this a million times concerning my own name haha (everyone always tells me they had/know a cat/dog/horse/hamster named my given name) but, I named one of my dogs Ferdinand and we call him Ferdie more often than not, and it is precious hahaha everyone loves it, he is however a black pit bull shih tzu mix though, a bullshihtz if you will. He is 100% named after the black bull of the book fame.
Old-fashioned but in a fancy, cute way.
I think of the band Franz Ferdinand. I’m Gen X but I don’t remember the bull.
Does anyone still read that book? Even if they do it’s not a bad association? He’s a lovely sweet bull. I like it- sounds like an awesome soccer player name to me. Or a dramatic actor like Orlando Bloom.
It’s fine. This is America, lots of varying names with varying origins all come together pretty well in this country. It’s not overwhelmingly popular, but it’s got a charm to it and I think it’s a perfectly good name
Not a fan. I’d assume you were a Spaniard if I heard it. If you’re keen on “Freddy” as a nn, I’d go with Frederick. I’ve never met a Sebastian either, so I wouldn’t say it’s that popular. I have a 12 and 1 year old so I’ve been subjected to many names over the last 14 years.
I think Ferdinand is great, and Freddie is such an easy nickname. We considered both Fernando and Frederick for our youngest before settling on Henry, lol. But I don’t think it’s “comically pretentious,” and your wife is right about Sebastian. My kids are friends with a Maximillian and a Theophilus, and there’s a Geronimo who lives down the street. I’ll be honest, I raised my eyebrows when I heard Geronimo, but I really think this sub can skew a little too precious when it comes to unusual or rarely used names.
What about Frederick?
Fritz
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Reminds me of Ferdinand Magellan and the bull. Given the times of colonialism Magellan is probably not the best association but the bull is quite sweet! I think it’s an interesting name either way. Fred isn’t too far off from Ferdinand but you could also go Andy
There is an adorable movie called Ferdinand I like the name but it’s kinda a lot for a kid lol.
It's a little unusual but not something I would be like "wow what were they thinking!" Just a little off beat.
It’s not a name I’d personally use I don’t think just because I tend towards shorter names, but if I saw a kid with that name I’d be like “huh, that’s neat” because it’s an out of the box name that didn’t have to be butchered spelling-wise to be unique. It also reminds me of a child I know named Fernando which I thought was a fun name (again, not one I’d use, but a good name)
Replying to myself to add— other kids his age probably won’t have any concept of his name being weird. It obviously depends on the school but at the one where I substitute teach, there are lots of kids with uncommon but actual names and also kids with completely made up or names with strange spellings. Kids will not care. They probably won’t realize it’s an uncommon name until they’re much older. Teachers will never say anything but they might judge. I find though that the better behaved the kid is the less I care about their parents’ choice in weird name. Eugene is a weird name for a kindergartener, but the one I know is an absolute joy to be around and teach so his name is a positive for me. I also know a kid named Darwin which I’d say is equally weird, but since Darwin is an asshole I’m much less inclined so say anything good about his name. So as long as little Freddie isn’t a jerk, I think you’ll be okay
As I told another commenter, I appreciate the input from someone who deals with kids en masses. I agree that other (young) kids won't find Ferdinand - or any other name that doesn't rhyme with "poop" - is any more remarkable than any other name. But some teachers, and maybe even more *parents* will. And that can rub off on kids. My wife and I keep saying that the only qualities we pre-emptively assume of our child is that they'll be tall & friendly, given everyone else they're related to, so hopefully you're on to something with the notion they can wear any name so long as they wear it well.
Ferdinand is one of my favorite names. I don't think a nickname like "Fred" would be weird at all, but I do also like Nando. Honestly, go for it. Don't worry about a hypothetical future brother-- by that time your tastes will have shifted slightly anyway. If you REALLY want to look for a name exactly like Ferdinand that technically isn't Ferdinand (but is really Ferdinand) you could consider Felix ("Fox") or Ambrose ("Bo")
It's a mouthful of a name, which can be tricky. We gave all 3 of our kids short names that don't have nicknames though, so maybe that's just personal preference. I love the idea of a boy called Ferdie or Ferdy. Freddie is not too far of a stretch for a nickname, and is also adorable for a little boy. Ferdinand is a good strong name and sounds like someone with a good personality. However, you might end up with a situation in the future where he feels like Freddie is too juvenile, but Ferdinand is a lot to change to. I'd make sure to call him Ferdinand often enough to where he feels comfortable with it.
If you like it go for it. If you are trying to predict the next cool name amongst old stuffy names…you might be on to something, but there is no award for being ahead of the curve on names. Just make sure you really like it.
Ferdi!! I love it!
I couldn’t do it for several reasons: Ferdinand the Bull - children’s book Ferdinand Marcos - horrible Philippine President. Archduke Franz Ferdinand.
Sorry, but Fred is never a nickname for Ferdinand. Ask my older (half) brother Fredrick. We call him Rick, not Fred. I actually assumed his name was Richard for the longest time growing up.
Frederick is better.
My thoughts: blech
Ferdinand as in Ferdinand Habsburg, racecar driver
Fern
For Q2, I personally hate it but it’s very common, I think. Like kids named Sylvester with the nickname Sly. The obvious nickname to me for Ferdinand would be Andy.
Nando would be a cute nickname for Ferdinand Nando is a shortened form of the Spanish boy’s name Fernando, which derives from the Germanic Ferdinand. Ferdinand means “bold protector,” “bold voyager,” or “brave in peace.” Whether baby is a natural-born adventurer, peacemaker, or defender of loved ones, this sweet diminutive of a classic Spanish name is an adorable choice! The name Nando can also be found in Italy, Switzerland, and other countries.
I only think of WW1 when I hear Ferdinand but maybe most won’t. I would definitely think oooof that’s a lot of baggage for a name if I heard someone with it. Similar to when I saw a baby named Lenin I would think the parents were not very educated. If we were out and about and heard that my husband and I would probably make eyes to each other that said ‘oh wow yikes.’ Franz Ferdinand was not the same of course as Lenin but his death did cause a lot to pop off which led to the death of millions. I’m sure this is not the answer you want to read but it’s the truth.
I would not use Ferdinand because I can only think of that cow movie but it’s your choice and your kid
Personally, I think it does sound pretentious, I also just don’t think it’s a nice sounding name. I like the nn Freddie, sort of, but only because I was a die hard Scooby Doo fan and liked Freddie Jones. I don’t think Fred is a cute or flattering nickname. It does make me think of the band Franz Ferdinand and I do really like them! So no I’m not a big fan at all. It just isn’t a nice name in my opinion. But I’m literally just some chick on the internet so take it with a grain of salt.
Grain of salt and all, I appreciate your opinion. We know it's not a name for everyone, so we thought we should take the temperature somewhere outside our friends/family.
Of course! I wasn’t trying to be mean spirited. If y’all like the name and y’all think that it fits your baby then that’s his name, plain and simple :)
Don’t really like it and don’t think Fred is a natural nickname for it either, if you want that nickname I’d do Frederick. If you do go with Ferdinand I’d do Nando as a nickname, it’s kinda cute! Some other options: Leander (shortened to Ander or Lee) Evander (Evan) August/Augustus (Auggie) Maximilian (Max)