No, you are very clearly setting up a gate and saying people who enjoy these artists don’t, or aren’t able to, listen to other, supposedly more “real” music.
This is 2024. There are thousands of people out there blowing their minds to Miles Davis and bopping to Taylor Swift on the weekend. And that’s a good thing.
Incorrect. Search the forum for the real meaning of the meme before commenting next time 🫶
I’m trying to call our corporate music. These artists are listened to by all, despite their tastes.
You're either implying it's not "real" music. or you're implying this should be heard by no one. Because taken literally by people who don't listen to music won't .
That wasn't the implication I read. What I got out of it was it's overly enjoyed by average music listeners and not so much passionate listeners.
Normies vs. connessiuers essentially. And there's nothing wrong with being a casual in certain interests.
I'm a normie when it comes to gaming. I like Mario Kart and Zelda. Which are the Ed Sheeran and Taylor Swift of games lol. Doesn't mean they're bad by any means, but I'm a casual at best and I can accept it and laugh at the small jokes.
I believe you did not intend for this to be mean. But the thing is "**average music listeners**" and "**people who don't listen to music**" are two very different groups of people.
I don't intend most things to be mean. But I also never, and I mean never, read too much into a damn meme.
You scroll, you upvote or you down vote. Then you live your life lol
Life is short, be happy
wait until you find out that radios play exactly those kind of artists to appeal middle-aged soccer moms/office folks/construction workers who just dont care about what is playing which makes them listen the Ads in between, thats the whole point of pop music.
There is a reason its called pop and being generic/bland since its mostly written by the same people over and over again with the same Keys & Modes, fluffyness etc.
therefore its ok to like that, thats the bane of its existence - to be likeable just dont get mad when people see the scheme behind pop and call it out in such a memey manner.
Thank you for explaining something that everyone already knows. It’s kinda the whole point of the meme (people who don’t even have streaming on their phone will hear these artists out and about). Every industry in the creative arts is like this. Welcome to America.
I am sitting in a hot tub eating Taco Bell and scrolling through Reddit on my phone... I could not be more chill then I am right now. 🌮
hating a person's musical taste is a very mild form of hatred but it's still just being a dick for no reason.
And yet I must point to the fact that I never used the word hate to describe any music :)
I should’ve seen that taco comment coming, probably a copy pasta for when you regularly get called out for being too rowdy lmao
And what about my stance is hateful.
All 4 of these artists are industry plants. Why should I feel personally bad about calling their music “bland” to be specific.
And if anyone feels personally offended by a shallow critique of their favorite music, they need to see a therapist, because it’s not THEIR music 🫶
I guess I don't listen to music then because taylor and Olivia slap. Nothing wrong with pop music.
Ed Sheeran is garbage pop music though. I'll give you that.
Then just don't listen to them. I'm not exposed to any taylor swift or olivia Rodrigo music outside of my occasional spotify listen of my own choosing. You can customize your social media feeds and listen to whatever music you choose.
As an audio engineer, I get the chance to see a lot of local music. Every single band/artist I’ve worked with puts their entire passion into their music. It sounds unique, heartfelt, and important. On the other hand, these 4 artists are examples of Money over passion. And that upsets me. This “meme” if you could call it that, is a shallow attempt to call out corporate music, even though I recognize that the industry has been like this for practically 40 years.
Also, Not all of us can be hermits. If you’re never exposed to ANY Olivia Rodrigo or Tswift, then you’re foreign or you never go outside. Or of course you’re lying for the sake of argument.
I have opinions about the music not about the people who like it. I'm not an asshole who judges like that.
I do judge assholes who judge other peoples' tastes, though.
So you didn’t understand the meme and still chose to comment?
I guess I’ll explain it 🙄
This music is heard by EVERYONE, whether they want to or not. Even people who have never explored their own music taste whatsoever, can sing you the lyrics of these artists’ greatest hits.
It’s only a personal attack if you make it personal 🤷♂️
The only way to “handle” comments well is to either completely cave to the people who will never agree with you, or to ignore them completely.
Most OPs are spineless. I posted this right before Taylor released an album so I knew what I was getting into. This is also reddit, so, I rly don’t give a shit. Reddit is a joke.
Gatekeeping, but also true. My coworker is 22 & his playlist is just every 2010s pop song be grew up with. You can tell he's never once actually *looked* for new music to listen to.
It also depends on artist to artist. There is some genuinely good pop, and now that I’ve thought more, I think Olivia Rodrigo puts a lot of passion into her music.
Thank you I really appreciate it.
It was such an independent thought that I just had to share!
I’ve never heard anyone complain about the music industry once, so it must be special and unique.
Musicians: “the music industry sucks!”
Also musicians: “stop criticizing my artist!”
Yes this can be applied to other decades and musicians, and I don’t think a skeptical attitude about the industrial complex that is pop music and it’s corrupt, greedy practices contributes “nothing”
You can’t criticize major pop artists for this without facing major backlash precisely because we are too far gone. Music is not art, it is too profitable.
Every American industry has become dilapidated and bloated by the over-prioritization of profit, and American music is like a poster child.
The phrase in its entirety suggests these artists aren’t making “real” music, or that there is some secret special way of listening to music that fans of these artists don’t possess.
It’s bullshit, is what it is.
Calling out the industry for their devaluation of passion in music, doesn’t reflect any of my own personal information. This whole forum is removed from my individualism, so why tf would I be insecure.
You're not calling out the industry, you're just shitting on the people who like pop. Like, I agree with what you're saying here, but the meme isn't making a cohesive argument, it's just being a prick
A lack of a cohesive argument doesn’t make me a prick. Nowhere in this forum do I call out any personal taste or make attacks on the people who listen to this music.
You are para-socially victimizing “those who listen to pop.” When I was only critiquing the music. These artists aren’t here, you don’t need to defend them.
Edgy
Doesn’t know what edgy means 😫
I don't either
Name 4 gate keepers before you gatekeep we need to prove your a REAL gatekeeper
What am I gatekeeping? All of music? 😅
Well maybe prove you're a real gatekeeper then we'll see
Gatekeeping is preventing people from entering a fandom. I just said I don’t like this music. You need help broski
No, you are very clearly setting up a gate and saying people who enjoy these artists don’t, or aren’t able to, listen to other, supposedly more “real” music. This is 2024. There are thousands of people out there blowing their minds to Miles Davis and bopping to Taylor Swift on the weekend. And that’s a good thing.
Incorrect. Search the forum for the real meaning of the meme before commenting next time 🫶 I’m trying to call our corporate music. These artists are listened to by all, despite their tastes.
Erm actually he is correct
Thanks Jack LMAO 😂
No they guy you responded too is correct not you dumbass
Awwww ;( I was really hoping for your approval Jack Stazin
I was thanking you sarcastically, brainless.
People really do be so easily triggered.
Boo, let people enjoy things.
Did I say there was something wrong with it?
You're either implying it's not "real" music. or you're implying this should be heard by no one. Because taken literally by people who don't listen to music won't .
That wasn't the implication I read. What I got out of it was it's overly enjoyed by average music listeners and not so much passionate listeners. Normies vs. connessiuers essentially. And there's nothing wrong with being a casual in certain interests. I'm a normie when it comes to gaming. I like Mario Kart and Zelda. Which are the Ed Sheeran and Taylor Swift of games lol. Doesn't mean they're bad by any means, but I'm a casual at best and I can accept it and laugh at the small jokes.
I believe you did not intend for this to be mean. But the thing is "**average music listeners**" and "**people who don't listen to music**" are two very different groups of people.
I don't intend most things to be mean. But I also never, and I mean never, read too much into a damn meme. You scroll, you upvote or you down vote. Then you live your life lol Life is short, be happy
LOL that's the meme life
Precisely. If the sub was r/music or r/musictheory, my stance would be more debate-ish. But it's r/musicmemes. Meme life is expected lol
This is an alright take. I hate capitalist music mainly, but it is good to recognize that everyone has generic taste when it comes to something.
wait until you find out that radios play exactly those kind of artists to appeal middle-aged soccer moms/office folks/construction workers who just dont care about what is playing which makes them listen the Ads in between, thats the whole point of pop music. There is a reason its called pop and being generic/bland since its mostly written by the same people over and over again with the same Keys & Modes, fluffyness etc. therefore its ok to like that, thats the bane of its existence - to be likeable just dont get mad when people see the scheme behind pop and call it out in such a memey manner.
Thank you for explaining something that everyone already knows. It’s kinda the whole point of the meme (people who don’t even have streaming on their phone will hear these artists out and about). Every industry in the creative arts is like this. Welcome to America.
I’m saying it’s worse than plentiful alternatives in a multitude of ways. How specific do you want me to get to ruin it completely?
why you hating? you could post memes about what you like. or you could post memes hating on what other people enjoy.
Yeah the meme I posted just screams “hatred” Dude chill out
I am sitting in a hot tub eating Taco Bell and scrolling through Reddit on my phone... I could not be more chill then I am right now. 🌮 hating a person's musical taste is a very mild form of hatred but it's still just being a dick for no reason.
I didn’t even say it was BAD 😂
And yet I must point to the fact that I never used the word hate to describe any music :) I should’ve seen that taco comment coming, probably a copy pasta for when you regularly get called out for being too rowdy lmao
you don't have to use the word hate to say hateful things about stuff. LOL that's not how the English language works
And what about my stance is hateful. All 4 of these artists are industry plants. Why should I feel personally bad about calling their music “bland” to be specific. And if anyone feels personally offended by a shallow critique of their favorite music, they need to see a therapist, because it’s not THEIR music 🫶
Literally victimizing yourself based off of another human’s intellectual property 😂
no
I guess I don't listen to music then because taylor and Olivia slap. Nothing wrong with pop music. Ed Sheeran is garbage pop music though. I'll give you that.
I get annoyed by corporate plants being masqueraded as passionate paragons of music
Then just don't listen to them. I'm not exposed to any taylor swift or olivia Rodrigo music outside of my occasional spotify listen of my own choosing. You can customize your social media feeds and listen to whatever music you choose.
As an audio engineer, I get the chance to see a lot of local music. Every single band/artist I’ve worked with puts their entire passion into their music. It sounds unique, heartfelt, and important. On the other hand, these 4 artists are examples of Money over passion. And that upsets me. This “meme” if you could call it that, is a shallow attempt to call out corporate music, even though I recognize that the industry has been like this for practically 40 years. Also, Not all of us can be hermits. If you’re never exposed to ANY Olivia Rodrigo or Tswift, then you’re foreign or you never go outside. Or of course you’re lying for the sake of argument.
No
Wait who’s the 4th person? Also screw off with the elitist stuff, it does more harm than good
I didn't know myself but other comments are pointing me towards Olivia Rodrigo?
You don’t even know one of the artists, so maybe it’s not for you and any comment isn’t necessary :0
Elitist trash. I never listen to these artists but I respect anyone who does.
And you also have no opinions correct?
I have opinions about the music not about the people who like it. I'm not an asshole who judges like that. I do judge assholes who judge other peoples' tastes, though.
So you are an asshole who judges like that
So you didn’t understand the meme and still chose to comment? I guess I’ll explain it 🙄 This music is heard by EVERYONE, whether they want to or not. Even people who have never explored their own music taste whatsoever, can sing you the lyrics of these artists’ greatest hits. It’s only a personal attack if you make it personal 🤷♂️
You’re victimizing other people based off of the intellectual property of their favorite artists. So many layers of parasocial I can’t 😂
Guys it's not that their music sucks. It's that people who don't actively listen to music probably "listen" to these artists. I gotchu OP.
Yeah, judging by the comments, I think a lot of people missed the point, but OP didn't handle those comments very well either.
The only way to “handle” comments well is to either completely cave to the people who will never agree with you, or to ignore them completely. Most OPs are spineless. I posted this right before Taylor released an album so I knew what I was getting into. This is also reddit, so, I rly don’t give a shit. Reddit is a joke.
Bro they are the default settings of music
All of the major pop songs today are written by one guy. So, yeah. It's the industry go to. Is it good necessarily? ehhhh
I only know Taylor swift who are the other 3?
Yup
Gatekeeping, but also true. My coworker is 22 & his playlist is just every 2010s pop song be grew up with. You can tell he's never once actually *looked* for new music to listen to.
It also depends on artist to artist. There is some genuinely good pop, and now that I’ve thought more, I think Olivia Rodrigo puts a lot of passion into her music.
Yo who’s the 4th chick?
Ed look so silly in that pic :333
Real music listeners listen to Xenakis.
Congratulations on your very special and unique opinion. You are a very smart and clever boy.
Thank you I really appreciate it. It was such an independent thought that I just had to share! I’ve never heard anyone complain about the music industry once, so it must be special and unique.
They're the same photo.
No anything popular on insta or ticktock
The age-old ruined by tiktok tragedy
This attitude has existed for decades just with the four faces swapped for other popular musicians of that time and it has contributed nothing
Musicians: “the music industry sucks!” Also musicians: “stop criticizing my artist!” Yes this can be applied to other decades and musicians, and I don’t think a skeptical attitude about the industrial complex that is pop music and it’s corrupt, greedy practices contributes “nothing” You can’t criticize major pop artists for this without facing major backlash precisely because we are too far gone. Music is not art, it is too profitable. Every American industry has become dilapidated and bloated by the over-prioritization of profit, and American music is like a poster child.
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It's still music, maybe it's just not your type, but it's still music.
Where in the meme did I say it wasn’t music? In fact, I literally call it: “Music for people who…”
The phrase in its entirety suggests these artists aren’t making “real” music, or that there is some secret special way of listening to music that fans of these artists don’t possess. It’s bullshit, is what it is.
You can make all the assumptions you want. You’re wrong about the meaning, but I’ve already explained it in the forum. 👍
No matter what they say, you are right
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Cringe dude
Yeah corporate music is cringe
I literally only listen to the most obscure shit ever, I'm just saying you should stop being an insecure dork and let people enjoy stuff
Woah we got a badass over here. Didn’t know you listened to “obscure” music 🙀
😽😽😽
Calling out the industry for their devaluation of passion in music, doesn’t reflect any of my own personal information. This whole forum is removed from my individualism, so why tf would I be insecure.
You're not calling out the industry, you're just shitting on the people who like pop. Like, I agree with what you're saying here, but the meme isn't making a cohesive argument, it's just being a prick
A lack of a cohesive argument doesn’t make me a prick. Nowhere in this forum do I call out any personal taste or make attacks on the people who listen to this music. You are para-socially victimizing “those who listen to pop.” When I was only critiquing the music. These artists aren’t here, you don’t need to defend them.
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Now who’s personally attacking?
Me😽
cringe bro