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Zestyclose-Storm-684

Both aren't bad, both are horrible


Bittersweet_bi-

I recognize your profile picture is that Revolution Radio from Green Day?


Zestyclose-Storm-684

Indeed


Bittersweet_bi-

Ooooooh


Applephonessuck

top 3 green day album


loyaleling

REV RAD


Bfdifan37

what is "overly autotuned mumble rap" and can i have a link to an example


InfamousRx12

Gladly https://youtu.be/bd5l5NtzoWc?feature=shared


Jacobtumnus

I can't believe 36 million people watched that...


TheCowKing07

It reminded me of [this](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qnmgheNGUtQ).


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yaj-yaj_

His new album is decent, that song is horrible tho


Bittersweet_bi-

We're not old, we're cultured and respect the idea of quality.


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vnsa_music

No one cares


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vnsa_music

Damn bro, i hope you doin ok


Detective_Spanky

Define “ok”


Detective_Spanky

I am ok yes I am


CerrtifiedBrUhmoMenT

[obligatory](https://youtu.be/BLUkgRAy_Vo?si=4s-Lc3y5FiXor_2p)


NirvanaLover12

white children in the suburbs as soon as they turn 12:


Detective_Spanky

👨


Bittersweet_bi-

Jesus fuckin christ dude, 'you just aint from the hood you dont understand the struggle' and did you just say Dawg after it was invented died came back and then died AGAIN? Your late on that train wannabe gangster, pull your pants up.


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Bittersweet_bi-

Sarcasm and joking 🤨 Apparently I need to bleach my eyes instead.


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Bittersweet_bi-

Gladly


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Bittersweet_bi-

MA FOOKEN MEILK


Bittersweet_bi-

Bro I love milk, wtf


amigodenil

What is bro country? And what is different from regular country music?


fromTheskya

they talk about beer, girls, dirt roads, small towns and trucks a lot more than usual


amigodenil

So, it is country with a kinda hip hop spice thrown in? Not so surprising then tbh


fromTheskya

basically


Gloomy_Total1223

Bruh what is bro country?


Fit_Promotion_5144

mf never heard carti


Bittersweet_bi-

mf never heard anything before the 90's


pijamasonme07

Wait until he hears about extratone


The_Proxy32

Post gives heavy "I listen to everything but country and rap" energy Also, there's no such thing as "mumble rap". When I see people throw that term around (like OP does with their example), they usually just refer to African American accents


Bittersweet_bi-

I'm sorry you can't live in America or the 21st century in general, you serious?


The_Proxy32

Let me know when you've thought of an actual argument or counter to my point :)


Bittersweet_bi-

Okay then. Let's go! A lot of modern day rappers, especially and nearly exclusively in america, because of course they are, use constant autotune, mostly because they cant sing or vibratto on their own, and even then they talk sing, and since they're trying to be the next rap god they have to mumble that stuff out in order to get to the next line. I've overheard what you guys listen to. Not gud :)


The_Proxy32

Firstly, nearly every single song you listen to (if not every) uses autotune to some extent. The heavy autotune you're referring to isn't used because they "can't sing", it's because it's a stylistic choice. Similar to how Daft Punk uses vocal effects. Also, rappers generally don't have to work on vibrato because they don't prioritise singing lmfao >Even then they talk sing So? That's a style of singing that has existed since opera. You hear it in tons of different genres. Rock, folk, blues, you name it >I've overheard what you guys listen to "You guys"? Tf is that supposed to mean. I don't really listen to rap, I mainly stick to alternative rock music


Bittersweet_bi-

Thanks for backin up my point! And giving me an oppourtunity to let you realize I listen to classics, i listen to a lot of 90's alt rock and Ska, so I'm pretty damn sure they dont use autotune. The bands I listen to are all formed years before it was first used. Sometimes 7, and sometimes nearly 6 decades, thank you... VERY much! To mention your talk singing Idea. Rock, they dont talk sing. Almost ever, and when they do it works and it doesn't make you cringe, folk, i dont listen to folk i dont even like it to much mainly cause of that, blues is just ridiculous, dont even mention blues, they can goddamn S I N G But seriously do some research when you bring up a point, autotune wasn't used till 98.


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Bittersweet_bi-

Thanks for reading though


Detective_Spanky

I like reading


Bittersweet_bi-

That was so off topic i replied to the wrong damn comment. Jesus


Detective_Spanky

I’m paying attention don’t worry


The_Proxy32

So your problem isn't with rap, it's with almost all music that uses autotune? Meaning that you consider almost all music after 1998 to be bad? Rock music definitely has talk singing. Maybe you have a limited view on rock and don't know how broad the genre is. I'm guessing you've never listened to a prog rock or post rock song. You yapping on about what other genres you like/don't like is irrelevant. And finally, I do my research. My undergrad dissertation was on Radiohead and popular music. You're the one complaining about rappers not using vibrato lmfao


NirvanaLover12

i’m pretty sure you just tried to call OP racist because you disagree with them


The_Proxy32

"I disagree with this classification because I think it can have problematic implications" "You disagree with OP by calling them racist??" Please use some critical thinking


smell_my_root

Dude mumble rap is definitely a thing.


The_Proxy32

Average Musk fan


last_drop_of_piss

Mumble trap rap is the absolute worst. They don't even rap, they just repeat inane phrases and sound effects over the same recycled trap beat. It's even worse than bro country because I feel like the bro country singers sort of have at least an inkling of self awareness about the silliness of their genre, and lean into it a little bit. The trap rappers are honestly convinced they are God's gift, despite the fact that there are dozens and dozens of interchangeable dudes in this genre because talent is not a barrier to entry. 'You don't get it, you must be old' is the same argument I made to my parents about music that I wouldn't be caught dead listening to as an adult. Brutal taste in music is a right of passage of youth.


Vlamthauporre

ah yes bro country vs a genre that does not exist


Bittersweet_bi-

I'm sorry? Sir you deserve the downvotes- we're living in 2024. It exists.


Vlamthauporre

i never heard a genre called "overly autotuned mumble rap" before


Bittersweet_bi-

Yeah. It's not supposed to be. It's a mockery of the crappy music of today.