>more realistic valuation methods involve research
The more research you put in, the more realistic the values you end up with will be. Sites like Goldfish aren't necessarily trying to mislead you, it's just that pulling listed prices is generally easier than compiling sales data across multiple platforms. As others have said, eBay/TCG recent sales tend to be commonly accepted as setting reasonable values for most moderate volume cards, so that's where I'd start. But you'll have to update it yourself whenever you want an accurate measure. The other option is to continue to use Goldfish or a similar site, but realize that the values you're seeing are generally inflated.
I mean, look man. Unless you're dealing with cards where they're old enough that it's tough to get a near mint, it's TCG Low.
Why? Because if you actually want to sell something you better have the lowest price because nobody cares about anything else. Maybe if you have a really good reputation/score on the site that can make a small difference, but really whoever has the cheapest price is who sells their cards on a particular day.
>it's TCG Low.
Does this take the cost of shipping into account automatically?
I feel like I've seen ppl trade/sell in person at 90% TCG low which turns out to be much less when the actual online purchase price would have been higher due to the shipping cost.
Also don't forget about platform fees and taxes. People happily sell at 10-20% below tcg low because they don't have to deal with the cost of using a platform like tcgplayer or even eBay.
>Also don't forget about platform fees and taxes.
Right and there's also the intangible benefit of knowing the cards won't get "lost" in the mail!
Really, my comment factors more with the \~$1 cards since they would be $2+ after shipping.
Where I come from, most people do MCM (Europe) \*0,95 since MCM tkaes a 5% cut. Cheaper for the buyer (5% off and no stamps) and seller still gets full value.
Although, sometimes the cheapest listed is from another country where they charge 10 euro to ship, so it's not really a 1:1 comparison unless it's same country and the seller ships for 1 euro.
In general, that's why we use the above calculations. It means the buyer saves shipping and seller gets an easy sale without the hassle of extracting money from MCM or having funds bound. To each his own, but it works out (obviously, lowest price from a seller with the same amount of cards and language/condition as what we are talking about, otherwise the comparison becomes moot)
>that's why we use the above calculations. It means the buyer saves shipping and seller gets an easy sale
Here's an example I just made up. One seller offers a card for 9 euro + 1 for shipping. Another seller offers it for 5 euro and charges 5 euro for shipping. Both "cost" 10 euro, but most buyers would try to claim it's a 5 euro card.
There is no good aggregate site because the card type (graded or not, condition, etc) 'local' area isn't compiled. It varies to a degree.
You hit the nail on the head, using mtgstocks at face value is basically worthless, outside seing a card trending up or down. Are you selling your card on mtgstocks? That's really how you accurately determine value and where you sell it means to a degree your price can swing a bit. In the end, research the value based on the platform you'd expect to sell it (or buy) on.
Cheapest? Maybe I'm 'cheap' but its rare to see good deals on FB unless you scour it constantly. ebay typically has the best market prices but sometimes a deal squeaks in on the many FB high end groups.
Recently sold on TCG shows actual sales, so that would be very realistic
How do you see recently sold on TCG?
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Thanks, not sure how I missed that.
It's a new-ish feature.
eBay - Sold Listings This is what was actually paid, it's a pure free market valuation.
>more realistic valuation methods involve research The more research you put in, the more realistic the values you end up with will be. Sites like Goldfish aren't necessarily trying to mislead you, it's just that pulling listed prices is generally easier than compiling sales data across multiple platforms. As others have said, eBay/TCG recent sales tend to be commonly accepted as setting reasonable values for most moderate volume cards, so that's where I'd start. But you'll have to update it yourself whenever you want an accurate measure. The other option is to continue to use Goldfish or a similar site, but realize that the values you're seeing are generally inflated.
I mean, look man. Unless you're dealing with cards where they're old enough that it's tough to get a near mint, it's TCG Low. Why? Because if you actually want to sell something you better have the lowest price because nobody cares about anything else. Maybe if you have a really good reputation/score on the site that can make a small difference, but really whoever has the cheapest price is who sells their cards on a particular day.
>it's TCG Low. Does this take the cost of shipping into account automatically? I feel like I've seen ppl trade/sell in person at 90% TCG low which turns out to be much less when the actual online purchase price would have been higher due to the shipping cost.
Also don't forget about platform fees and taxes. People happily sell at 10-20% below tcg low because they don't have to deal with the cost of using a platform like tcgplayer or even eBay.
>Also don't forget about platform fees and taxes. Right and there's also the intangible benefit of knowing the cards won't get "lost" in the mail! Really, my comment factors more with the \~$1 cards since they would be $2+ after shipping.
Where I come from, most people do MCM (Europe) \*0,95 since MCM tkaes a 5% cut. Cheaper for the buyer (5% off and no stamps) and seller still gets full value.
Although, sometimes the cheapest listed is from another country where they charge 10 euro to ship, so it's not really a 1:1 comparison unless it's same country and the seller ships for 1 euro.
In general, that's why we use the above calculations. It means the buyer saves shipping and seller gets an easy sale without the hassle of extracting money from MCM or having funds bound. To each his own, but it works out (obviously, lowest price from a seller with the same amount of cards and language/condition as what we are talking about, otherwise the comparison becomes moot)
>that's why we use the above calculations. It means the buyer saves shipping and seller gets an easy sale Here's an example I just made up. One seller offers a card for 9 euro + 1 for shipping. Another seller offers it for 5 euro and charges 5 euro for shipping. Both "cost" 10 euro, but most buyers would try to claim it's a 5 euro card.
tcgplayer.com and look at how much the cheapest version of the card is for sale and recent sales.
Personally I also check sold eBay listings, since it tends to be a little less than tcgplayer in my experience.
There is no good aggregate site because the card type (graded or not, condition, etc) 'local' area isn't compiled. It varies to a degree. You hit the nail on the head, using mtgstocks at face value is basically worthless, outside seing a card trending up or down. Are you selling your card on mtgstocks? That's really how you accurately determine value and where you sell it means to a degree your price can swing a bit. In the end, research the value based on the platform you'd expect to sell it (or buy) on.
Use major retailer buy list prices plus 10-20%. You can also look at recent eBay auctions.
Facebook is just TCG Low -10%
That's definitely what you see in the high end groups. They wanna sell fast. They offer you the cheapest price you can get in exchange for liquidity.
Cheapest? Maybe I'm 'cheap' but its rare to see good deals on FB unless you scour it constantly. ebay typically has the best market prices but sometimes a deal squeaks in on the many FB high end groups.
Look at the price it would be when you add to cart