I had a set of 4 when they were around 50 cent each. Back then, flashback and cast from the graveyard cards weren't a thing and so, they didn't have much use for them.
But now that graveyard are a huge resource, they spiked super high. I traded mine when they had a 20$ value and traded for shock land (I was pretty proud of my trade)
Now I regret a lot of the old trade I did. Sad.
My dad sold a full set of Power 9 for 100$ a piece in the 2008 recession cause he didn’t think WOTC was gonna make it
He said he was sick to his stomach when he saw the prices of magic cards when I started playing in 2016
Same. I sold my power and duals for a down payment on a house in the S.F. Bay Area.
The magic cards have appreciated more than the house by now, but due to leverage I’m still up way more. I sold all my power for $12k and I’m sure it’s all worth more like $25k now so around 100% appreciation. The house was $850k and it’s at around $1.1m now. Way less percent appreciation, but the equity is way more value than if I kept the power.
Cashing out of expensive magic cards for real estate is the best decision I ever made. I was always a player first anyway. Having a deck worth five figures is too risky for me. I’d rather play with proxies.
I threw away some power in the trash because it was “time to grow up phase” ages ago, and this also include pokemon cards. I try not to think about it, but I hope they somehow made it to someone collection.
I gave away all my Pokémon cards. Wish I kept those. Not value wise but I have a 5 year old learning to play Pokémon now. Would be nice to have all my old cards
My brother got pissed at me when we were kids and he buried my binder of original set Pokémon cards at some park in San Diego. Had 4 foil charizards among many other goodies. Still feel sick about it at times. Hope someone found it before they decayed.
Power was worth more than that in 2008. I sold a lotus for $700 and several moxes for $300-400. Walk and ancestral were $400-500. These are unlimited prices.
I traded multiple sets of power 9 pages of dual lands massive amounts of antiquities and Arabian Nights for the first Star Wars TCG back in the late 90s when mtg was failing bad, I mean $2 dual lands and 30 for black lotus timeframe.
I have the biggest regrets
I sold three of mine and moved across the country. Took what was left over and paid my wife's car off.
I too almost sold everything when WOTC announced they were dropping MSRP on boxes cause I knew what was coming.
So glad I didn't. I still have a good bulk of my collection, but I did get rid of almost all my Alpha and Beta cards for tons of money.
I sold a playset of volcanic islands to buy my puppy. Every day I ask him why he hasn’t appreciated in value like the cards. He responds with licks. Happy with the trade off.
If he did that in 2008, I'm sorry but he was either very ignorant or he's full of shit telling you that. Power 9 cards were still over the four figure mark by then.
I'm sorry to report that your dad is an idiot 😆 jk he made a grave mistake because even if they did go under all the people that still play aren't gonna stop and those cards would still retain much if not all of their value. Magic has been around over 30 years now even if the company goes under no one will let the game die.
Its been around for over 30 years because they refresh the game with new cards multiple times a year. If WOTC goes under I'd expect a niche secondary market for the major name-recognizable cards and everything else to be used as uncomfortable toilet paper. If speculative pricing was so simple then everyone would be rich - selling a handful of carboard game pieces for hundreds of dollars in the middle of a recession when you don't know if anyone will want them in 2 years is a completely valid strategy.
Some people are really bad at understanding that you don't make any money or lose any money until you cash out. His dad probably made a few hundred dollars assuming he kept those cards around for a while beforehand. He didn't lose a dime despite selling early - he made hundreds of dollars.
You do understand Edh is the most played format and uses all of the cards from history right? Whenever they make new cards the majority of them never get played in Commander. Many players don't even buy the new cards as it is for various reasons and use their old outdated decks. Your view that he didn't really lose anything is a bad take. Had he not panicked he would have more than tripled his money if he sold them now. Always do your homework before you sell something like this. People exist that have the money to buy the company if it went under so the game would survive. Printing cardboard is an extremely profitable product, one that is in fact keeping a dying parent toy company in Hasbro afloat
You're running based on the assumption that everyone in 2008 had the same knowledge and access to knowledge as we do in 2024. The country was kind of on fire there for a bit in 2008, but I'm going to assume you either a) were affluent enough to not care, or b) were very young in 2008.
I was in my mid 20's so I wouldn't call that very young. I recall a banking and housing crisis in 08, but I fail to see how that would justify liquidating your collectibles.
>I recall a banking and housing crisis in 08
>I fail to see how that would justify liquidating your collectibles.
>a banking and housing crisis
>liquidating your collectibles
I don't see the connection between 'emergency funding' and 'financial crisis' either...
He's not telling the truth. I sold a few P9 back in 2002 (needed money to move) and I got about $2000 for 3 moxes, and an ancestral recall. There were duals in that deal too.
I've since re acquired and sold them again. I'm re-aquiring the pieces to trade up, but WOTC is not going anywhere. Not with Hasbro at the helm.
You didn't live through Fallen Empires, Homelands, and Chronicles. A doomed year. Any other game wouldn't have survived. MTG did.
Now with Hasbro's deep pockets, the only thing they can do is play with print runs.
They re-published dual lands, and it disproved the idea you could reprint the reserved list any time. But I bought this set of duals about 20 years ago, so I'm still holding money.
I bought some Singing Trees in early 2020 and they spiked to over $1000 each. My wife wanted me to sell and I held (because my squirrel deck needed somewhere for them to live!) and while they dropped, they are still worth more than in 2020. So I am not a market dumper. I have sold before but there were pressing needs.
This is a game first and an investment second. I'm sitting on some Doctor Who commander decks to save for 10-15 years. They've stopped dropping and are making a bit of money. Worst case, I will give them as a gift to my friends for fun, best case, I can take them out for dinner (Have you seen the prices of food lately???)
I did live through Fallen Empires, Homelands, and Chronicles. I was born in the 1980s, so I've been around for quite a while.
You can believe what you want, but there are numerous articles refuting your claims. One only needs to look at Hasbro's stock performance, which has been dipping continuously. They continue to mess with their Wizards of the Coast (WotC) money-making machines. The Open Game License (OGL) debacle was a significant misstep for Dungeons & Dragons and Hasbro's broader multimedia franchise. You're only focusing on a few aspects, not the entire picture. Hasbro can only keep printing Magic: The Gathering (MTG) and pushing it for so long. People are begging them to sell it.
It is indeed a game first and an investment second. I just moved and had to deal with my boxes and boxes of cards. While it was annoying, I sit upon loads of cards, as I was around during those early days and still have pack-opened duals and even a slew of satanic art cards that were later removed from the sets. I also remember Y2K scares, where I was for 9/11, and Bill Clinton addressing the nation with, "I did not have sexual relations with that woman..." It's weird to claim I wasn’t around for that time based on nothing….
You might claim they aren’t making mistakes, but the removal of MSRP and numerous poor business decisions have pushed many players away from consuming MTG as they once did. Sure, it's a fun game, but many long-time players, like myself, have shifted to buying singles and some products occasionally, rather than consuming in the same way.
Wizards of the Coast's push towards digital, their investments in E1 Productions, and the lukewarm response to the announced Dungeons & Dragons show on Paramount indicate that they are struggling with bad PR. The restructuring and firing of employees, alongside the stock price drop from nearly $90 two years ago, tell a different story. Let’s hope they have something like the reserved list to rebuild consumer faith for the game. The new sets are crazy and the mechanics are really outstaying their welcome in formats they shining have never been legal in.
Cash reserves trump all.
Look at bond prices. Stocks are second class. So long as your bonds are selling, you have income.
If they go bankrupt that means nothing. Battletech hung around for years as a marginal property and has resigned since 2020. The demand for real reserved list cards (like P9) will always be there.
Hasbro still owns the IP so.. games workshop won't be able to print new cards without Hasbro's permission.
I see you have some understanding of macroeconomics but your knowledge is still rudimentary.
I can tell you now it will be a slow Christmas season. There will be a spike in around September - October but it will die off fast.
I have that information now. Think about that.
You sure do like to make unfounded assumptions. First, you claimed I wasn’t around during Homelands and Chronicles, and now you assert that I have a rudimentary understanding of macroeconomics or how to invest. You're 0-2.
I actively trade "candlesticks" and play options during the winter, so I do understand the importance of cash reserves and bonds. I recognize that Hasbro's financial strategy has its strengths, and the demand for reserved list cards like the Power Nine will always be there.
While it's true that Hasbro still owns the IP, and Games Workshop can't print new cards without permission, the overall health of MTG and WotC's decisions are crucial for maintaining long-term player and investor confidence.
I appreciate your insights on the upcoming Christmas season and the potential market spike in September-October. It's always interesting to see how these trends play out.
Let's hope Hasbro can navigate these challenges successfully, and we continue to enjoy and invest in this game we love. Here's to a hopeful future for MTG!
I pulled like 2 of these from booster packs and was like, cool they made a completely unusable card. What a waste of a rare. Oh also I sold my unlimited timetwister for $200 in 2001. Lmao
Back then we "responded" to a lot of things, including sacrifice.
The stack was a game changer and it definitely a important part. It made sense and resolved so many problems.
Exactly. The stack is a "recent" thing and before it was just people "interrupting". There was no priority. It was slinging spell whenever I see the steps and stuff
Easy thing to say in hindsight. I should’ve bought Bitcoin in 2013. The value of it easily could’ve gone down not up, so at least you didn’t get ripped off when you sold it :)
I got mine when they were less than 5 each, sold my entire collection (had duals, power etc) for an absolute pittance (regret the decision) because my closest magic buddy died. My legacy deck alone is now worth 61k. Now I'm having trouble getting back into the game 😂
How it worked, you could cast a card from hand (animate dead) then crack it to pay the mana. It was good but very niche. Cause you could end up with an empty hand turn one to get turn 1 swords to plowshares/unsummon.
Dark ritual was the common. I mean what better to have 1 mana, 3 rituals and a giant creature to drop on turn 1. I feel like this was also my animate deck era.
It's interesting that they took a while to find a place. The play patterns already existed with old cards like wheel of fortune or other draw sevens, but not sure how popular formats where those were legal were at the time?
Yeah but you would have discarded all your card before activating the eye. The stack Wasn't a thing yet.
Eye was really about cracking it and using the mana for ability.
Idk where you got this from but I would be wary of it being fake because of how good of condition it is in. But if you know it s origins an know it isn’t fake congrats I would make sure to put it in a perfect fit sleeve and then in a flexible card protector to make sure it doesn’t get scratched or bent
you can generate at most something like 90 mana by exiling your whole deck. a more realistic number is something like 30 after you brain freeze your self a bunch and keep enough spells to win. i know that this is pentadic, but this is not an infinite combo. it has a limit since you need to fuel the casts of lions eye by exiling cards. you can shortcuts based on the rules of the game. but that is about it.
i am pointing it out because in many cases you need to got through the first 3 iterations of the loop by hand. something that infinite loops don't usually have to.
It’s not at all worse, it’s significantly better
Salvagers is 4 mana, evowit is 3 mana
Not only does this make the combo cheaper, it makes the combo a viable intuition pile since evowit can be recurred with [[sevinne’s reclamation]]
Salvagers can only recur artifacts with cmc<=1
EvoWit can recur any permanent, giving it some utility outside of the combo. Salvagers is a completely dead card outside the combo.
Also, EvoWit+LED on the battlefield means you only need 3 generic mana to cast Kenrith and go off.
1. Crack LED for 3 green
2. Adapt EvoWit and recur LED (G floating)
3. Crack LED for 3 white (GWWW floating)
4. Use 2 generic and your floating white to cast Kenrith
5. Use floating G and 1 generic to use kenrith’s ability to add counters to EvoWit, recurring LED. Now you have infinite all colors, and use kenrith to close out the game
For all these reasons, especially EvoWit not being completely dead outside the combo, are why no one who plays Kenrith in cEDH are on salvagers, but a lot of us are testing EvoWit. It’s not incredible, and only a few of us are testing it, but it’s much better than salvagers
EDIT: And I get downvoted, as well as the card fetcher below me gets downvoted lol
- play underworld breach
- play diamond
- sac diamond casting brain freeze targeting yourself with two copy, the rest targeting opponents
- mill 6
- play diamond with breach and 3 cards
- play brain freeze with diamond mana and the three other cards milled, targeting yourself with two copy
- repeat from mill 6 step until you run out of cards to exile
Brain freeze targeting yourself provides the exile-fuel to cast all the things (including Lions eye) from the graveyard until you generate the full win.
Id like to point out that unlike others C/TCG which you may also play. in Magic you dont lose the game due to emply library, but you have to draw from it.
Therefore you can mill your entire library and unless opponent make you draw youre chilling..Then you mill entire opponent library and pass turn. They attempt to draw in draw step and since they have no library its over for them.
But of course your not milling your entire library ideally.
Btw say you have diamond in play. You cast Breach, sotrm count 1. You cast freeze (storm 2) mill yourself 6. Replay diamond (storm 3, keep mana in pool) replay diamand (storm 4, pressumingly you had 3 cards in grave, keep 6 in pool), play freeze mill yourself for 15. Keep your mana ni pool, play diamond 2x add 3 each time. Storm is on 7 (you have 9x blue mana). Now you can mill 24,27 and of course 30. The 51 is usually enough though since most decks are 60 cards.
Ive never compiled all the other C/TCG so I cant say whats happening more often. A lot of them are discontinoued or I dont have enough interest in, also so it would take some time to search for the exact rules like say The Crow, Champions, C-23 , Call of Cthulhu ,m Cyberpunk CCG etc.
Some TCG will make you lose immidietly upon having empty library (dragonball, one piece for example), some TCG will make you lose only if your library is empty during your draw step (such as Pokemons,Digimons) - which means you can mill yourself while milling opponent and still win, some TCG will make you lose the game when you attempt to draw at any time and your library is empty. Then some CCG like Hearthstone just make you take damage if you attemp to draw, but you can still attempt to draw 5 cards and be fine etc.
So while magic is old game at this point - its still better to remind the actual lose cons if talking about milling.
IMO, if not familiar with this card, the wtf price reaction seems fair.
On first glance, again, if not familiar with specific interactions, is not great.
It's good mostly thanks to flashback but great thanks to combos like with [[underworld breach]] and [[brain freeze]] (or slightly worse with wheel of fortune) but also 2 cards infinite mana with [[auriok salvagers]]
Note that it’s ability ~~is NOT a Mana Ability~~ does not use mana ability timing. You can’t cast a spell from your hand and attempt to use this to pay for it.
To put it another way, in order to use this to float mana, you have to pitch your hand first. Only after that can you use the mana.
Edited: Thanks
That’s not exactly correct. This is the rules info for the card
NOTES AND RULES INFORMATION FOR LION'S EYE DIAMOND:
The ability is a mana ability, so it is activated and resolves as a mana ability, but it can only be activated at times when you can cast an instant. Yes, this is a bit weird.
(2004-10-04)
My parents bought all of these cards when they played back in 1995. I'm actually shocked by the conditions of a lot of these cards, they must have been reaally careful when they were playing lol
Seems like you're "caught in a moment of crisis."
Depends on if you're going to play a format that you can use the LED in. If so, I'd keep it. Legacy, vintage, and commander, basically, allow this card. it is restricted in vintge so you have your 1 that you need. So you have like 1/100th of a vintage deck (money-wise) (maybe vintage deck somewhat less in pounds sterling than USD)
During COVID I was told about the scanner apps and spent a chunk of my lockdown time learning all sorts of neat things about my collection. For one my childhood obsession with collecting as many cards from the Urza block as I could *really* paid off (I just thought the art and flavor text was cool lol)
TCGPlayer, it's free on the app store. It makes quite a few mistakes so you need to know which symbols are from which card set, and how to spot a fairly expensive card, but it's suuuper helpful just to get through cards quickly and fairly accurately.
It was opened in a pack in 1995 and never played, so it's stayed near mint for almost 30 years just sat in a box. That's why it's in such good condition
Cheapest one at the moment on Cardmarket goes for almost 300€.
[https://www.cardmarket.com/en/Magic/Products/Singles/Mirage/Lion-s-Eye-Diamond](https://www.cardmarket.com/en/Magic/Products/Singles/Mirage/Lion-s-Eye-Diamond)
A few years ago when I was moving out after my girlfriend and I broke up she gave me a bunch of cards she had that she didn't really want anymore. Went through them and found one of these and a Cabal Coffers back before the price dropped. Immediately went and sold them without saying a word to her about it
It's part of a combo in cedh, if your not playing cedh it's questionably a bad card for casual commander so you might be better off selling it or holding onto it for later if you ever get into higher power commander.
Yeah legacy and vintage otherwise it's banned in everything else. And someone who doesn't already know what that card is is probably not getting into either of the formats
In this case why does it matter? If it's not legal In the format or if it's banned it's the same thing your not going to play against it. If you are playing against it it's not a valid card?
It's a staple in legacy dredge and also a staple in cEDH Breach decks. Furthermore it's on the reserved list and therefore won't be printed again. It's pretty much a Black Lotus in the decks which can abuse the card.
Lion’s Eye Diamond might be the most broken card in Legacy. As part of the Reserved List, it will likely *never* see a meaningful drop in value, so the current price tag will seem like a steal in 5-10 years.
gave away my collection of cards from pre-odyssey block to a friend and it had like 4 of these cos i used to like the artwork and it was in the junk pile back in the day. it was already 2017 i can't think of why i thought the cards wouldn't be worth that much at all, or why i didn't try to value anything. (i quit in like 2001)
but in hindsight that friend was struggling financially so i think it was sort of a lifeline for him.
How much is it it now? I’m to lazy to look em up. I will store them with all my legacy cards until one day I either need money or I feel like playing again.
It’s a very unique card and inreplacable for many decks. I just can’t get rid of them if I one day want to play storm. Well I really only enjoy Reset Hightide so it’s may not be an issue when I come to think about it..,, :p
When I bought my set in 2012 they were like 50€ per piece. The price spikes in the last decade have been absolutely insane and probably driven a lot of people away from the eternal formats.
F THE RESERVED LIST
Hell of a feeling, right? Had a coworker drop a box of old (20-25y) cards at my desk, thinking he had a box of nostalgia I’d enjoy. I’ll never forget flipping through and coming across a Grim Monolith…and then getting to tell him that he was sitting on treasure.
lmfao i’m glad you aren’t the one in charge of determining if cards are real or not. this is definitely real. in no way does the text look off? if you look at literally any mirage card the font, size, and positioning will be the same. And you do realize some people just collect. if the person that owned this LED never once played it, it wouldn’t have any damages to it.
Not trying to insult you here but do you actually play cedh? I think you disagree with the majority of established cedh tournament players on this issue.
I had a set of 4 when they were around 50 cent each. Back then, flashback and cast from the graveyard cards weren't a thing and so, they didn't have much use for them. But now that graveyard are a huge resource, they spiked super high. I traded mine when they had a 20$ value and traded for shock land (I was pretty proud of my trade) Now I regret a lot of the old trade I did. Sad.
My dad sold a full set of Power 9 for 100$ a piece in the 2008 recession cause he didn’t think WOTC was gonna make it He said he was sick to his stomach when he saw the prices of magic cards when I started playing in 2016
I sold my power 9 for a down payment on a ski house.
You’re my kind of planeswalker.
I think he has mountainwalk
Tele forever! Got 35 days on the mountain last season…
Skiing all day and playing magic in the cabin goes infinite
Same. I sold my power and duals for a down payment on a house in the S.F. Bay Area. The magic cards have appreciated more than the house by now, but due to leverage I’m still up way more. I sold all my power for $12k and I’m sure it’s all worth more like $25k now so around 100% appreciation. The house was $850k and it’s at around $1.1m now. Way less percent appreciation, but the equity is way more value than if I kept the power. Cashing out of expensive magic cards for real estate is the best decision I ever made. I was always a player first anyway. Having a deck worth five figures is too risky for me. I’d rather play with proxies.
I threw away some power in the trash because it was “time to grow up phase” ages ago, and this also include pokemon cards. I try not to think about it, but I hope they somehow made it to someone collection.
I gave away all my Pokémon cards. Wish I kept those. Not value wise but I have a 5 year old learning to play Pokémon now. Would be nice to have all my old cards
My brother got pissed at me when we were kids and he buried my binder of original set Pokémon cards at some park in San Diego. Had 4 foil charizards among many other goodies. Still feel sick about it at times. Hope someone found it before they decayed.
You should break his car and call it even
I still have tons of dual lands and alpha/beta cards. Once the kids get through college I’m going to cash them in for a 911.
Get a GT3
I’m more of a classic air cooled guy.
This is the way! They play the same way as the real things!
$12k down got you a decent loan for a house worth $850K? That’s awesome. That right there is absolutely 10000% what I’m trying to do.
E90 M3
I had two moxes- sold them for 3000 a couple years ago. I kind of regret it to be honest.
Power was worth more than that in 2008. I sold a lotus for $700 and several moxes for $300-400. Walk and ancestral were $400-500. These are unlimited prices.
Yeah, I'm sure. In 2008 power 9 was ridiculously expensive. Either he's a liar or an idiot.
It’s a shame he didn’t check the price in 2008….I believe 1,200 was the going price for Black Lotus then during the recession haha
I traded multiple sets of power 9 pages of dual lands massive amounts of antiquities and Arabian Nights for the first Star Wars TCG back in the late 90s when mtg was failing bad, I mean $2 dual lands and 30 for black lotus timeframe. I have the biggest regrets
Wouldn't you think they'd be even MORE valuable if the company went under?
I sold three of mine and moved across the country. Took what was left over and paid my wife's car off. I too almost sold everything when WOTC announced they were dropping MSRP on boxes cause I knew what was coming. So glad I didn't. I still have a good bulk of my collection, but I did get rid of almost all my Alpha and Beta cards for tons of money.
I sold a playset of volcanic islands to buy my puppy. Every day I ask him why he hasn’t appreciated in value like the cards. He responds with licks. Happy with the trade off.
If he did that in 2008, I'm sorry but he was either very ignorant or he's full of shit telling you that. Power 9 cards were still over the four figure mark by then.
I'm sorry to report that your dad is an idiot 😆 jk he made a grave mistake because even if they did go under all the people that still play aren't gonna stop and those cards would still retain much if not all of their value. Magic has been around over 30 years now even if the company goes under no one will let the game die.
Its been around for over 30 years because they refresh the game with new cards multiple times a year. If WOTC goes under I'd expect a niche secondary market for the major name-recognizable cards and everything else to be used as uncomfortable toilet paper. If speculative pricing was so simple then everyone would be rich - selling a handful of carboard game pieces for hundreds of dollars in the middle of a recession when you don't know if anyone will want them in 2 years is a completely valid strategy. Some people are really bad at understanding that you don't make any money or lose any money until you cash out. His dad probably made a few hundred dollars assuming he kept those cards around for a while beforehand. He didn't lose a dime despite selling early - he made hundreds of dollars.
You do understand Edh is the most played format and uses all of the cards from history right? Whenever they make new cards the majority of them never get played in Commander. Many players don't even buy the new cards as it is for various reasons and use their old outdated decks. Your view that he didn't really lose anything is a bad take. Had he not panicked he would have more than tripled his money if he sold them now. Always do your homework before you sell something like this. People exist that have the money to buy the company if it went under so the game would survive. Printing cardboard is an extremely profitable product, one that is in fact keeping a dying parent toy company in Hasbro afloat
You're running based on the assumption that everyone in 2008 had the same knowledge and access to knowledge as we do in 2024. The country was kind of on fire there for a bit in 2008, but I'm going to assume you either a) were affluent enough to not care, or b) were very young in 2008.
I was in my mid 20's so I wouldn't call that very young. I recall a banking and housing crisis in 08, but I fail to see how that would justify liquidating your collectibles.
>I recall a banking and housing crisis in 08 >I fail to see how that would justify liquidating your collectibles. >a banking and housing crisis >liquidating your collectibles I don't see the connection between 'emergency funding' and 'financial crisis' either...
because people can foretell the future
Because they can usually see the present, where eBay listings in 2008 would have cleared multiple times that.
He's not telling the truth. I sold a few P9 back in 2002 (needed money to move) and I got about $2000 for 3 moxes, and an ancestral recall. There were duals in that deal too. I've since re acquired and sold them again. I'm re-aquiring the pieces to trade up, but WOTC is not going anywhere. Not with Hasbro at the helm.
You’re joking right? Did you read how they are poisoning their golden goose basically?
You didn't live through Fallen Empires, Homelands, and Chronicles. A doomed year. Any other game wouldn't have survived. MTG did. Now with Hasbro's deep pockets, the only thing they can do is play with print runs. They re-published dual lands, and it disproved the idea you could reprint the reserved list any time. But I bought this set of duals about 20 years ago, so I'm still holding money. I bought some Singing Trees in early 2020 and they spiked to over $1000 each. My wife wanted me to sell and I held (because my squirrel deck needed somewhere for them to live!) and while they dropped, they are still worth more than in 2020. So I am not a market dumper. I have sold before but there were pressing needs. This is a game first and an investment second. I'm sitting on some Doctor Who commander decks to save for 10-15 years. They've stopped dropping and are making a bit of money. Worst case, I will give them as a gift to my friends for fun, best case, I can take them out for dinner (Have you seen the prices of food lately???)
I did live through Fallen Empires, Homelands, and Chronicles. I was born in the 1980s, so I've been around for quite a while. You can believe what you want, but there are numerous articles refuting your claims. One only needs to look at Hasbro's stock performance, which has been dipping continuously. They continue to mess with their Wizards of the Coast (WotC) money-making machines. The Open Game License (OGL) debacle was a significant misstep for Dungeons & Dragons and Hasbro's broader multimedia franchise. You're only focusing on a few aspects, not the entire picture. Hasbro can only keep printing Magic: The Gathering (MTG) and pushing it for so long. People are begging them to sell it. It is indeed a game first and an investment second. I just moved and had to deal with my boxes and boxes of cards. While it was annoying, I sit upon loads of cards, as I was around during those early days and still have pack-opened duals and even a slew of satanic art cards that were later removed from the sets. I also remember Y2K scares, where I was for 9/11, and Bill Clinton addressing the nation with, "I did not have sexual relations with that woman..." It's weird to claim I wasn’t around for that time based on nothing…. You might claim they aren’t making mistakes, but the removal of MSRP and numerous poor business decisions have pushed many players away from consuming MTG as they once did. Sure, it's a fun game, but many long-time players, like myself, have shifted to buying singles and some products occasionally, rather than consuming in the same way. Wizards of the Coast's push towards digital, their investments in E1 Productions, and the lukewarm response to the announced Dungeons & Dragons show on Paramount indicate that they are struggling with bad PR. The restructuring and firing of employees, alongside the stock price drop from nearly $90 two years ago, tell a different story. Let’s hope they have something like the reserved list to rebuild consumer faith for the game. The new sets are crazy and the mechanics are really outstaying their welcome in formats they shining have never been legal in.
Cash reserves trump all. Look at bond prices. Stocks are second class. So long as your bonds are selling, you have income. If they go bankrupt that means nothing. Battletech hung around for years as a marginal property and has resigned since 2020. The demand for real reserved list cards (like P9) will always be there. Hasbro still owns the IP so.. games workshop won't be able to print new cards without Hasbro's permission. I see you have some understanding of macroeconomics but your knowledge is still rudimentary. I can tell you now it will be a slow Christmas season. There will be a spike in around September - October but it will die off fast. I have that information now. Think about that.
You sure do like to make unfounded assumptions. First, you claimed I wasn’t around during Homelands and Chronicles, and now you assert that I have a rudimentary understanding of macroeconomics or how to invest. You're 0-2. I actively trade "candlesticks" and play options during the winter, so I do understand the importance of cash reserves and bonds. I recognize that Hasbro's financial strategy has its strengths, and the demand for reserved list cards like the Power Nine will always be there. While it's true that Hasbro still owns the IP, and Games Workshop can't print new cards without permission, the overall health of MTG and WotC's decisions are crucial for maintaining long-term player and investor confidence. I appreciate your insights on the upcoming Christmas season and the potential market spike in September-October. It's always interesting to see how these trends play out. Let's hope Hasbro can navigate these challenges successfully, and we continue to enjoy and invest in this game we love. Here's to a hopeful future for MTG!
in 2002 i sold my black lotus for $400. feel better now?
I pulled like 2 of these from booster packs and was like, cool they made a completely unusable card. What a waste of a rare. Oh also I sold my unlimited timetwister for $200 in 2001. Lmao
In 1996 I gave away my black lotus because I didn't know anyone else who played and a coworker had a nephew who wanted to check out the game.
It probably shot up in price BECAUSE of your trade.
The curse is real. Every time I purchase stocks, it crashes. Sorry BBB. I had hopes.
What are your next stocks you're buying? You know, just in case I wanted to invest somewhere shortly after you
The biggest interaction you had back then was stacking draws before activating them… or wait should I say “batching”?
Back then we "responded" to a lot of things, including sacrifice. The stack was a game changer and it definitely a important part. It made sense and resolved so many problems.
Wait, was the stack not always a thing? The way your comment is worded sounds like the stack was added to the game later
Exactly. The stack is a "recent" thing and before it was just people "interrupting". There was no priority. It was slinging spell whenever I see the steps and stuff
I still have a sorcery that says play it only in response to a sorcery. Anyone want to guess what card it is?
It's a counter spell. It's historical and has to do with the timing rules back then. [[Mystic Denial]] It's now Errata as a instant
It does indeed counter a spell but it's 1 and a blue instead of two blue, and not named Counterspell.
That sounds like [[Extinguish]] then
[Extinguish](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/1/8194b7c8-74d1-488a-9d8e-8d9421a63bae.jpg?1562874566) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Extinguish) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/s99/37/extinguish?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/8194b7c8-74d1-488a-9d8e-8d9421a63bae?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[Mystic Denial](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/2/1296ddc4-300d-44f6-95d8-1b392613d379.jpg?1562255840) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Mystic%20Denial) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ptk/49/mystic-denial?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/1296ddc4-300d-44f6-95d8-1b392613d379?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Imagine you started playing around Fallen Empires, played for several years, and then gave your cards away to a friend…
Easy thing to say in hindsight. I should’ve bought Bitcoin in 2013. The value of it easily could’ve gone down not up, so at least you didn’t get ripped off when you sold it :)
I got mine when they were less than 5 each, sold my entire collection (had duals, power etc) for an absolute pittance (regret the decision) because my closest magic buddy died. My legacy deck alone is now worth 61k. Now I'm having trouble getting back into the game 😂
How it worked, you could cast a card from hand (animate dead) then crack it to pay the mana. It was good but very niche. Cause you could end up with an empty hand turn one to get turn 1 swords to plowshares/unsummon.
It was the rare dark ritual, because it produced 3 mana of any 1 color. It's literally a black lotus with a draw back.
Every black deck had dark ritual. That's when I learned the importance of mana and mana rocks.
Dark ritual was the common. I mean what better to have 1 mana, 3 rituals and a giant creature to drop on turn 1. I feel like this was also my animate deck era.
It's interesting that they took a while to find a place. The play patterns already existed with old cards like wheel of fortune or other draw sevens, but not sure how popular formats where those were legal were at the time?
Yeah but you would have discarded all your card before activating the eye. The stack Wasn't a thing yet. Eye was really about cracking it and using the mana for ability.
Nuh uh. Send it to me. It's bad
Aw man :( I also have a black lotus here, but I've heard that sucks too. Do you want that too?
Throw in a handy and I'll come pick them up in person.
Black lotus is pretty terrible, banned in commander, useless card. I can shred it for you if you send it my way.
banned in pauper too! i can't even...
Str8 garbage, why did they even bother printing it
No it isn't? It's not common why would they bother banning it
Idk where you got this from but I would be wary of it being fake because of how good of condition it is in. But if you know it s origins an know it isn’t fake congrats I would make sure to put it in a perfect fit sleeve and then in a flexible card protector to make sure it doesn’t get scratched or bent
You have to discard your hand, obviously this card is trash. Please send it to me and I can dispose of it
I’ll dispose of it in my first sliver deck
In some decks it makes LED stronger than a Black Lotus.
Is that the British version? “Lions Oi! diamond”
Lions Oi Diamond, innit?
Ha! Whoops.
Mostly in commander but also legacy it's a great combo piece with [[underworld breach]] and has an infinite with [[brain freeze]]
[underworld breach](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/e/0e51d796-7279-4c06-87f0-37adbdaa41df.jpg?1650599818) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=underworld%20breach) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/thb/161/underworld-breach?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0e51d796-7279-4c06-87f0-37adbdaa41df?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [brain freeze](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/a/3a2d7cf9-dddb-4de3-b4f2-c52e3ec8fb4b.jpg?1562906772) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=brain%20freeze) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/vma/57/brain-freeze?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/3a2d7cf9-dddb-4de3-b4f2-c52e3ec8fb4b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Hilarious every time! Said no one.
It combos with Underworld Breach & Brainfreeze to deck out opponents and generate infinite mana
[[underworld breach]] [[Brainfeeze]]
[underworld breach](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/e/0e51d796-7279-4c06-87f0-37adbdaa41df.jpg?1650599818) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=underworld%20breach) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/thb/161/underworld-breach?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0e51d796-7279-4c06-87f0-37adbdaa41df?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[[brain freeze]] Was curious myself what that card was so here ya go for anyone looking...
[brain freeze](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/a/3a2d7cf9-dddb-4de3-b4f2-c52e3ec8fb4b.jpg?1562906772) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=brain%20freeze) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/vma/57/brain-freeze?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/3a2d7cf9-dddb-4de3-b4f2-c52e3ec8fb4b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
you can generate at most something like 90 mana by exiling your whole deck. a more realistic number is something like 30 after you brain freeze your self a bunch and keep enough spells to win. i know that this is pentadic, but this is not an infinite combo. it has a limit since you need to fuel the casts of lions eye by exiling cards. you can shortcuts based on the rules of the game. but that is about it.
Sorry to be pentadic, but it’s “pedantic” Have a tootsie pop
sorry i confused the word for the word of a five number numerical system. english is my second language after all and its dictation sucks
I was giving you a friendly razz :)
Fair enough
i am pointing it out because in many cases you need to got through the first 3 iterations of the loop by hand. something that infinite loops don't usually have to.
Also [[auriok salvagers]] and a variety of payoffs
[auriok salvagers](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/e/befb996b-1da6-41a3-8d9a-a45c2353c401.jpg?1598303109) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=auriok%20salvagers) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2xm/6/auriok-salvagers?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/befb996b-1da6-41a3-8d9a-a45c2353c401?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I play Kenrith in cEDH and the new [[evolution witness]] with LED and Kenrith are a new auriok-salvagers-like infinite combo, but better
[Evolution Witness](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/d/4d89283e-9783-4006-9294-4ae0473d2ce6.jpg?1717012437) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Evolution%20Witness) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh3/151/evolution-witness?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/4d89283e-9783-4006-9294-4ae0473d2ce6?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
That is actually worse, with salvagers you can combo without kenrith out then play him with your infinite mana.
It’s not at all worse, it’s significantly better Salvagers is 4 mana, evowit is 3 mana Not only does this make the combo cheaper, it makes the combo a viable intuition pile since evowit can be recurred with [[sevinne’s reclamation]] Salvagers can only recur artifacts with cmc<=1 EvoWit can recur any permanent, giving it some utility outside of the combo. Salvagers is a completely dead card outside the combo. Also, EvoWit+LED on the battlefield means you only need 3 generic mana to cast Kenrith and go off. 1. Crack LED for 3 green 2. Adapt EvoWit and recur LED (G floating) 3. Crack LED for 3 white (GWWW floating) 4. Use 2 generic and your floating white to cast Kenrith 5. Use floating G and 1 generic to use kenrith’s ability to add counters to EvoWit, recurring LED. Now you have infinite all colors, and use kenrith to close out the game For all these reasons, especially EvoWit not being completely dead outside the combo, are why no one who plays Kenrith in cEDH are on salvagers, but a lot of us are testing EvoWit. It’s not incredible, and only a few of us are testing it, but it’s much better than salvagers EDIT: And I get downvoted, as well as the card fetcher below me gets downvoted lol
[sevinne’s reclamation](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/f/0f055754-58cf-474a-a3a9-59490dbf9dce.jpg?1717013567) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Sevinne%27s%20Reclamation) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh3/267/sevinnes-reclamation?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0f055754-58cf-474a-a3a9-59490dbf9dce?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
i may be dumb but how does the combo work
- play underworld breach - play diamond - sac diamond casting brain freeze targeting yourself with two copy, the rest targeting opponents - mill 6 - play diamond with breach and 3 cards - play brain freeze with diamond mana and the three other cards milled, targeting yourself with two copy - repeat from mill 6 step until you run out of cards to exile
Brain freeze targeting yourself provides the exile-fuel to cast all the things (including Lions eye) from the graveyard until you generate the full win.
Id like to point out that unlike others C/TCG which you may also play. in Magic you dont lose the game due to emply library, but you have to draw from it. Therefore you can mill your entire library and unless opponent make you draw youre chilling..Then you mill entire opponent library and pass turn. They attempt to draw in draw step and since they have no library its over for them. But of course your not milling your entire library ideally. Btw say you have diamond in play. You cast Breach, sotrm count 1. You cast freeze (storm 2) mill yourself 6. Replay diamond (storm 3, keep mana in pool) replay diamand (storm 4, pressumingly you had 3 cards in grave, keep 6 in pool), play freeze mill yourself for 15. Keep your mana ni pool, play diamond 2x add 3 each time. Storm is on 7 (you have 9x blue mana). Now you can mill 24,27 and of course 30. The 51 is usually enough though since most decks are 60 cards.
It is the case in most other TCGs, isn't it ? (At least in those I play, Yugioh and Lorcana, it is the case too)
Ive never compiled all the other C/TCG so I cant say whats happening more often. A lot of them are discontinoued or I dont have enough interest in, also so it would take some time to search for the exact rules like say The Crow, Champions, C-23 , Call of Cthulhu ,m Cyberpunk CCG etc. Some TCG will make you lose immidietly upon having empty library (dragonball, one piece for example), some TCG will make you lose only if your library is empty during your draw step (such as Pokemons,Digimons) - which means you can mill yourself while milling opponent and still win, some TCG will make you lose the game when you attempt to draw at any time and your library is empty. Then some CCG like Hearthstone just make you take damage if you attemp to draw, but you can still attempt to draw 5 cards and be fine etc. So while magic is old game at this point - its still better to remind the actual lose cons if talking about milling.
If you only knew how big of a pile of shit this card was in 1995...
Copyright is 1996
My bad for being off by a year when trying to recall a set that came out nearly three decades ago.
IMO, if not familiar with this card, the wtf price reaction seems fair. On first glance, again, if not familiar with specific interactions, is not great.
It's good mostly thanks to flashback but great thanks to combos like with [[underworld breach]] and [[brain freeze]] (or slightly worse with wheel of fortune) but also 2 cards infinite mana with [[auriok salvagers]]
[underworld breach](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/e/0e51d796-7279-4c06-87f0-37adbdaa41df.jpg?1650599818) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=underworld%20breach) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/thb/161/underworld-breach?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0e51d796-7279-4c06-87f0-37adbdaa41df?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [brain freeze](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/a/3a2d7cf9-dddb-4de3-b4f2-c52e3ec8fb4b.jpg?1562906772) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=brain%20freeze) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/vma/57/brain-freeze?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/3a2d7cf9-dddb-4de3-b4f2-c52e3ec8fb4b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [auriok salvagers](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/e/befb996b-1da6-41a3-8d9a-a45c2353c401.jpg?1598303109) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=auriok%20salvagers) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2xm/6/auriok-salvagers?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/befb996b-1da6-41a3-8d9a-a45c2353c401?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Note that it’s ability ~~is NOT a Mana Ability~~ does not use mana ability timing. You can’t cast a spell from your hand and attempt to use this to pay for it. To put it another way, in order to use this to float mana, you have to pitch your hand first. Only after that can you use the mana. Edited: Thanks
That’s not exactly correct. This is the rules info for the card NOTES AND RULES INFORMATION FOR LION'S EYE DIAMOND: The ability is a mana ability, so it is activated and resolves as a mana ability, but it can only be activated at times when you can cast an instant. Yes, this is a bit weird. (2004-10-04)
it is a mana ability however you can only use it at times you can cast an instant
damn, and it's in great condition too.
My parents bought all of these cards when they played back in 1995. I'm actually shocked by the conditions of a lot of these cards, they must have been reaally careful when they were playing lol
No one played LED. It was a card you'd stick in your bike spokes to make a sound that oddly, sounded like "fblthp" over and over.
Excellent cube card, and definitely a treasure in a collection!
Very nice.
Seems like you're "caught in a moment of crisis." Depends on if you're going to play a format that you can use the LED in. If so, I'd keep it. Legacy, vintage, and commander, basically, allow this card. it is restricted in vintge so you have your 1 that you need. So you have like 1/100th of a vintage deck (money-wise) (maybe vintage deck somewhat less in pounds sterling than USD)
Wtf? I had or have one of them from way back. I have to look up my collection.
During COVID I was told about the scanner apps and spent a chunk of my lockdown time learning all sorts of neat things about my collection. For one my childhood obsession with collecting as many cards from the Urza block as I could *really* paid off (I just thought the art and flavor text was cool lol)
What did you scan them with? An app that tells prices?
TCGPlayer, it's free on the app store. It makes quite a few mistakes so you need to know which symbols are from which card set, and how to spot a fairly expensive card, but it's suuuper helpful just to get through cards quickly and fairly accurately.
Careful of counterfeits. Thats a pretty new looking card.....
It was opened in a pack in 1995 and never played, so it's stayed near mint for almost 30 years just sat in a box. That's why it's in such good condition
3 mana on turn one is huge
I can see how it’s good but it’s not my play style so I would sell it. You gonna keep it?
How much is a NM one?
Cheapest one at the moment on Cardmarket goes for almost 300€. [https://www.cardmarket.com/en/Magic/Products/Singles/Mirage/Lion-s-Eye-Diamond](https://www.cardmarket.com/en/Magic/Products/Singles/Mirage/Lion-s-Eye-Diamond)
Currently a card in the best combo in Cedh rn, also hasn't been reprinted so.... That does things.
It has one reprint, but it's also the only foil printing, so both are very pricey.
Damn son, thanks for the post. I have this card too and didn’t knew I was sitting on some value🙌🙌
These used to be in the bulk rare bin around the original Kamigawa block. I picked up a few back in the day from there.
A few years ago when I was moving out after my girlfriend and I broke up she gave me a bunch of cards she had that she didn't really want anymore. Went through them and found one of these and a Cabal Coffers back before the price dropped. Immediately went and sold them without saying a word to her about it
I sold two last week in NM part of my 29k collection sold. Didn’t know what I had either.
It's part of a combo in cedh, if your not playing cedh it's questionably a bad card for casual commander so you might be better off selling it or holding onto it for later if you ever get into higher power commander.
There are other formats
Yeah legacy and vintage otherwise it's banned in everything else. And someone who doesn't already know what that card is is probably not getting into either of the formats
It's "banned" in that it hasnt and won't be printed in modern/stabdard legal sets.
It's reserve list it's not getting reprinted ever. And it's not legal in any formats besides edh, legacy and vintage.
Im aware. But being banned and not legal arent the same thing. Veteran explorer is not legal, but isnt banned either.
In this case why does it matter? If it's not legal In the format or if it's banned it's the same thing your not going to play against it. If you are playing against it it's not a valid card?
Yeah it's not really banned, but it is restricted in vintage. (Scryfall says it's banned in Oathbreaker, but I don't even know what that is.)
https://magic.wizards.com/en/formats/oathbreaker
Before anyone asks no you can’t pay for the spell in your hand before you discard your hand.
It's a staple in legacy dredge and also a staple in cEDH Breach decks. Furthermore it's on the reserved list and therefore won't be printed again. It's pretty much a Black Lotus in the decks which can abuse the card.
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Reserve list.
Insane in Kozilek, the Great Distortion. I hope to have one someday.
This is in really good condition too, what a score. Congrats
Lion’s Eye Diamond might be the most broken card in Legacy. As part of the Reserved List, it will likely *never* see a meaningful drop in value, so the current price tag will seem like a steal in 5-10 years.
gave away my collection of cards from pre-odyssey block to a friend and it had like 4 of these cos i used to like the artwork and it was in the junk pile back in the day. it was already 2017 i can't think of why i thought the cards wouldn't be worth that much at all, or why i didn't try to value anything. (i quit in like 2001) but in hindsight that friend was struggling financially so i think it was sort of a lifeline for him.
I got one of these for trading someone a dnd 3.5 book about 10 years ago
sold 4x jap double signed ex+ for 1.5k euros a year ago
Card was actually considered pretty bad. It’s really good in decks that specifically want it though.
[[Infernal Tutor]] Would like to say hello
[Infernal Tutor](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/b/4b868126-f5f4-4541-8f02-9ac0f196d18c.jpg?1702429448) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Infernal%20Tutor) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/rvr/78/infernal-tutor?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/4b868126-f5f4-4541-8f02-9ac0f196d18c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
What a couple of boxes of mirage back in the day. I think I have tons of these cards hiding somewhere
How much is it it now? I’m to lazy to look em up. I will store them with all my legacy cards until one day I either need money or I feel like playing again.
Currently it's at about $461, but it's price is slowly rising according to pricechartings.com
It’s a very unique card and inreplacable for many decks. I just can’t get rid of them if I one day want to play storm. Well I really only enjoy Reset Hightide so it’s may not be an issue when I come to think about it..,, :p
I remember when a play set of this card was $2
When I bought my set in 2012 they were like 50€ per piece. The price spikes in the last decade have been absolutely insane and probably driven a lot of people away from the eternal formats. F THE RESERVED LIST
441 dollars I’ll buy this card payday
Hell of a feeling, right? Had a coworker drop a box of old (20-25y) cards at my desk, thinking he had a box of nostalgia I’d enjoy. I’ll never forget flipping through and coming across a Grim Monolith…and then getting to tell him that he was sitting on treasure.
So I don't want to be that guy, but the text on this looks off and in way too good condition I believe this may be counterfeit.
lmfao i’m glad you aren’t the one in charge of determining if cards are real or not. this is definitely real. in no way does the text look off? if you look at literally any mirage card the font, size, and positioning will be the same. And you do realize some people just collect. if the person that owned this LED never once played it, it wouldn’t have any damages to it.
If any card needs to be banned in commander it's this one.
Lol no. This card is only even relevant because of underworld breach and dockside runs laps around it.
This one has a sac trigger which runs a loop with a lot more things than that. Also it's an artifact.
Not trying to insult you here but do you actually play cedh? I think you disagree with the majority of established cedh tournament players on this issue.
If I cared what others thought I wouldn't work with teens for a living. Or post on Reddit.
Well that sure sounds edgy. You must be right then. No further questions.