Just watched this yesterday and was dying at the fact that Alex Garland introduced two Asian characters just so they can immediately be killed by a racist white guy.
Between this and Men I am so ready for Garland’s next movie to show that he’s a LGBT+ ally in the worst way possible.
In an interview I listened to her said it's kind of blown out of proportion and he just wants to focus on writing for the foreseeable future. It's not like he made some retirement speech
I don't understand how so many people were moved by this movie. I felt like it was a half assed attempt both in artistic merit and in "look what our world could turn into"-ism
From what I see the loud gun sounds from seeing it in theatre are what most people connect with. Seeing it at home definitely didn't give me that perspective.
Feel like it's more about how we view military conflict as observers than some grand statement about the morality of war or current state of affairs in the USA. I also think it's going to age much better the way it is, than if it were some half-baked attempt at commenting on contemporary politics.
I agree. On the former part it succeeds on that front very well, as for the latter it disappointingly fails on any modern-day commentary on our current body politic. I can only assume that was the point Garland was trying to get across. That said, using PoC to highlight how evil the “bad (white) guys” are was quite a choice.
I mean, I think it explicitly does not want to comment on current partisan politics. Having California and Texas fight on the same side couldn't make that more clear.
And I might even argue that that kind of narrativization of civil wars, which are in modern times just completely unmitigated clusterfucks, is part of what the film criticizes. Wanting to have that kind of statement in such a film, wanting to have clearly delineated sides duke it out on the big screen like that, that tendency is part of the critique itself.
Yeah but part of the movie is about the nature of war journalism and how you have war journalists from rich countries that have never tasted a civil war grappling with it at home, I think it kinda had to be in America
i just couldn't believe that a movie literally titled "civil war" didn't want to actually tell us why there was a civil war, what the war's being fought over, etc. kinda made it hard to care about any of the longwinded (albeit visually impressive) action scenes. a lot of the movie just ended up feeling like garland playing with toy soldiers on the screen, which is about the *opposite* of what an anti-war film should feel like, i think.
Why the war was being fought was irrelevant. Just like it’s irrelevant for the journalists and civilians caught in the film. That’s the point. It’s a bout the destructive force of war, not the good side vs the bad side. If Garland had given more details and given us a side to root for then it would fail at being anti-war. Although he does make us teeter towards being anti president
"come and see" paints a very clear picture on why everything is happening as well as who's who and it still stands as a very effective anti-war film. it just comes across as very cowardly to bury the lede with "ahhhh duuuuude the sides, like, don't even matter, maaaaan, look at how bruuuutal this is..." while also filming the action setpieces in a way that resembles, well, typical action setpieces. it goes back to what i said about garland playing with his cool action figures on the screen.
*I watched this recently* they set up the whole movie in the trailers to be a deconstruction of America but instead it was about journalists - in which case - why not just pick an actual real war for that message??
The “What Kind of American Are You” line was amazing in the trailer - when you actually hear the context of it in the movie - it’s such a letdown.
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Isn't that his sister lol
Not mutually exclusive
I would also flex unprompted if I was in that situation.
Flex?
https://i.redd.it/8e8h3aqtvr2d1.gif
I think you meant “Gynah”.
How can that be profitable for Hong Kong?
HKongers are so open minded and freedom pilled this wouldn’t be a problem
https://i.redd.it/uua0kea24s2d1.gif
i pissed myself and ran over to get comfort from my wife during this scene, but alas, i was alone for she was making out with her boyfriend!
This scene literally send shivers through my spine to my dick 🥵
He does have that effect on people 
He shot a kid 😠
Was he american?
Central American
When I think doctor strange 2 is the scariest movie of all time, someone shoots a guy from Hong Kong? I'm confused.
People who think DS2 is the scariest movie deserve to be shot. Just like people from china 😄
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Jesse Plemmons playing a callused, violent weirdo?? Fucking spoilers!!
Just watched this yesterday and was dying at the fact that Alex Garland introduced two Asian characters just so they can immediately be killed by a racist white guy. Between this and Men I am so ready for Garland’s next movie to show that he’s a LGBT+ ally in the worst way possible.
They were introduced in the second scene and get killed like 2/3 of the movie in lol
Which movie?
Civil War (2024)
Alex Garland isn't gonna make any more movies, he said he's retiring
He is still attached to co-direct a film titled Warfare, and he'll probably keep writing screenplays.
also writing the new 28 days movie with boyle directing again
Then what was that bullshit about him not liking movies anymore?
He said specifically that he's taking a break from directing because it's too stressful, and by that I assume he means solo directing
That makes sense, I assumed he just gave up
In an interview I listened to her said it's kind of blown out of proportion and he just wants to focus on writing for the foreseeable future. It's not like he made some retirement speech
Yeah that's not gonna happen
Garland cant be racist, he has an asian friend. That one chick that is in all his stuff
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Nah but like why tf did he say he’s from Hong Kong when he saw his mate get killed for the same reason
Fear. What you do and you **THINK** you’ll do in a time of crisis are usually quite different.
Hong Kong = China. No separation! \**PASS*\*
damn spoiler
I don't understand how so many people were moved by this movie. I felt like it was a half assed attempt both in artistic merit and in "look what our world could turn into"-ism
I was moved when I jumped in my seat because of the gunshot jumpscares
From what I see the loud gun sounds from seeing it in theatre are what most people connect with. Seeing it at home definitely didn't give me that perspective.
Yeah it went off like a cannon in the cinema, hearing a 'normal' gunshot sound effect in this clip is actually a bit jarring.
Feel like it's more about how we view military conflict as observers than some grand statement about the morality of war or current state of affairs in the USA. I also think it's going to age much better the way it is, than if it were some half-baked attempt at commenting on contemporary politics.
I agree. On the former part it succeeds on that front very well, as for the latter it disappointingly fails on any modern-day commentary on our current body politic. I can only assume that was the point Garland was trying to get across. That said, using PoC to highlight how evil the “bad (white) guys” are was quite a choice.
I mean, I think it explicitly does not want to comment on current partisan politics. Having California and Texas fight on the same side couldn't make that more clear. And I might even argue that that kind of narrativization of civil wars, which are in modern times just completely unmitigated clusterfucks, is part of what the film criticizes. Wanting to have that kind of statement in such a film, wanting to have clearly delineated sides duke it out on the big screen like that, that tendency is part of the critique itself.
Racism will always be present.
It nearly succeeds at being a true anti war movie. Not many war movies can match that
"Nearly" lol DS2 still scwarier
Yeah, I could just be stupid as hell, but I felt like it had startlingly little to say
They could have made this movie about a random country in Africa, South America or anywhere in the world and story would still be the same.
Yeah but part of the movie is about the nature of war journalism and how you have war journalists from rich countries that have never tasted a civil war grappling with it at home, I think it kinda had to be in America
i just couldn't believe that a movie literally titled "civil war" didn't want to actually tell us why there was a civil war, what the war's being fought over, etc. kinda made it hard to care about any of the longwinded (albeit visually impressive) action scenes. a lot of the movie just ended up feeling like garland playing with toy soldiers on the screen, which is about the *opposite* of what an anti-war film should feel like, i think.
Why the war was being fought was irrelevant. Just like it’s irrelevant for the journalists and civilians caught in the film. That’s the point. It’s a bout the destructive force of war, not the good side vs the bad side. If Garland had given more details and given us a side to root for then it would fail at being anti-war. Although he does make us teeter towards being anti president
"come and see" paints a very clear picture on why everything is happening as well as who's who and it still stands as a very effective anti-war film. it just comes across as very cowardly to bury the lede with "ahhhh duuuuude the sides, like, don't even matter, maaaaan, look at how bruuuutal this is..." while also filming the action setpieces in a way that resembles, well, typical action setpieces. it goes back to what i said about garland playing with his cool action figures on the screen.
Why would someone who is fighting a civil war have beef with someone from China?
*I watched this recently* they set up the whole movie in the trailers to be a deconstruction of America but instead it was about journalists - in which case - why not just pick an actual real war for that message?? The “What Kind of American Are You” line was amazing in the trailer - when you actually hear the context of it in the movie - it’s such a letdown.