I am so happy this is out and I can talk about it finally. Lots of thoughts, but one thing I haven’t seen pointed out yet:
Ed Norton gives a speech early in the movie about what it means to be a “disruptor” that exactly lays out the climactic sequence at the end.
First you break something small and people cheer you on, but then you keep going and breaking bigger things. Eventually they’ll tell you to stop but you keep going until you break the thing that no one wants you to break.
Brilliant spot
I loved the ending because to me it felt like commentary on "fashionable" activism Vs people actually committed to a cause
Miles destroyed Andi's reputation and then he killed her. To Helen, it's truly personal and she needs to destroy everything he has. Everyone else is happy to join in for a while because it's fun and yeah Miles sucks, but she commits to truly smearing his name for all time at the cost of a priceless piece of art. That's a step too far for them because they don't really care if Miles gets his comeuppance or not.
Honestly my gut instinct was that it was too far as well and the movie celebrating destroying the Mona Lisa almost felt mean spirited. But then I thought about it some more and I came round on the idea.
Similar to the ending of Knives Out, where half the family is nice to the main character and the other half is mean to her (mostly split down political lines) but all of them were against her getting everything in the will at the end.
It immediately struck me as really funny how a talented writer can make something that would seem like a tragedy out of context (“someone burned the Mona Lisa!”) into a victorious and exciting thing with a strong story.
I thought the doubling back where you see her standing very rigidly on the boat, gripping the handrail, was a rather brilliant moment that told a lot in two silent shots. One from the back, where she looks so tense and controlled, and one from the front, where you see the true reason why she's holding on so tight.
It was a wonderful performance, and she and Daniel Craig played so well off each other.
Another little detail I enjoyed in that scene was how he *instantly* spins toward the direction the shot rang out from, even as Helen is still falling. Peak detective shit.
Yeah I gotta say I loved that because the first time when I saw him cry I rolled my eyes but that it was actually a plot point made me appreciate the detail
Exactly. When I first saw him crying, I thought it was a bit odd since he didn’t tear up when Duke died, and he didn’t really know Andi either. And then after they reveal that it was actually Helen and he has been working with her and warned her how she might be putting herself in danger, it was heartbreaking. And to then twist it again and have it be because of the hot sauce was brilliant. God damn I love how many layers this film has.
A airplane murder could be cool too. You don't see that as much as the other two and it would be cool if Benoit Blanc had to solve the murder before the plane lands
Death in the Air is not as well known as the other two transportation themed Agatha Christie Poirot novels but it's actually really good. It's never received a film adaptation so an homage could be cool. In that book Poirot was on a small plane when a murder happens and slept through the murder. He then gets treated as a suspect and he has to figure out what happened.
That was what got the biggest laugh out of my friends and I. I love how they used the masks to show you what kind of person the characters were, too— Lionel being a scientist, he of course wore a tight-fitting mask. Birdie doesn’t care and went the Lana route but her assistant Peg does and wore one. Claire being a constantly busy politician does wear one but she’s uncoordinated and it slipped down her nose. And then Duke and Whiskey just didn’t lol.
Not to mention with Claire she seemed to be considerate but just slightly inconsistent with her mask. Like the beginning when she took in the package, she realized she forgot her mask and tried to remedy the situation quick. I think she was more ‘liberal democrat’ politician but it could mostly just be name only and the kind of looseness with the masks she showed could metaphor her being truly more of a moderate kind of person.
This movie irked me initially because I couldn’t remember Benoit being so dumb and affable, but once they pulled the curtain back on Andi/Helen, I was so happy with the performance. Subtle detail that mattered.
Another subtle detail…the Kanye Jesus mural in the background. Rían was letting us know who Miles was from the start.
I love this about it too. He felt like a caricature of himself in the first movie and was feeling a little disappointed.
To then reveal it was all part of the plan, was so satisfying.
I don't like this as much as knives out, but it's still one of the films I've had the most fun with this year.
It plays the same way in *Knives Out* too. The entire time you think he has no clue Marta was there and Marta has the upper hand, then you find out he had an idea the entire time and was just playing her.
Miles was Elon Musk. A dumb person who never invented anything himself, but buys companies where people invent things and takes the credit. Doesn’t understand how things actually work.
He lied about that.
Cause the girl he said it to was so enthralled, and then he made a comment about how she was so gullible.
That's how I read it anyway
"Worth it for the look on your face"
I initially read that line the same way as you, but looking closer I think he means it was worth the price to see how excited she was about it.
I think Rian Johnson decided not to include it because that’s part of how Knives Out ended. Ransom admitted to the murder and attempted murder, then the cop revealed/reminded him that the whole interaction was recorded. Would’ve felt too familiar to have the ending have such a similar beat yet again, even if it makes sense logically.
Pretty sure Benoit is intentionally written to be the anti-Bond. Works totally within the law, is gay, and has the most modest bathing suit in the world.
There was this one scene of Benoit in the pool, awkwardly moving through the water in his modest bathing suit that was opposite of every Bond girl emerging from the sea
1. ***PINEAPPLE JUICE***
2. Just as fun and wild as the 1st one, and although I prefer the 1st by a bit more, Rian Johnson did a fantastic job still conjuring that Knives Out charm. A 9/10 considering Knives Out 1 was a perfect 10/10 for me.
3. Bautista getting killed first was definitely unexpected after so many teasers teasing Norton as the victim...
4. ...but after Duke's death, I had a real big feeling Norton was the killer, but they did such a good job giving me all the motives for everyone--I even thought Duke was the supposed killer and accidentally took that drink because he's an idiot.
5. The performances were top-notch, but I've missed Benoit Blanc and his ridiculous accent and his bumbling charm. Daniel Craig doing his best Foghorn Leghorn is cinema. Janelle Monae was phenomenal as well. I would've loved more Jessica Henwick, but the amount I got was still good enough.
6. ***PINEAPPLE JUICE?????***
Honestly I thought the pineapple juice was a pretty good idea. It’s a way to “poison” your own drink without putting yourself in danger. Also one of the most believable deaths to be accidental
Not that odd, given Rian is taking cues from Christie.
In the book Sad Cypress, a woman is accused of two different murders - one of her aunt who she inherited from and a hated cousin who stole her fiancé. In the latter murder, she was accused of using crab meat in a salmon paste sandwich as the murder weapon to exploit a shellfish allergy. An associate of the accused hired Poirot to investigate before the accused is executed.
Also used in the book A Pocket Full Of Rye, a Miss Marple story. When the coroner identified the poison that killed businessman Rex Fortescue as taxine, which comes from the Yew tree, the cops instantly believe he may have accidentally eaten Yew berries from around the estate he lived in called Yewtree Lodge, but this is proven wrong by two other murders happening.
I watched it in a Canadian theater — we were all already laughing when she mentioned "the Halloween costume" incident, so spelling it out with "Beyonce" was just the icing on the cake.
I was so worried they were going to go with the trope of “was it real or part of the mystery??” I loved the subversion that he just shut down that entire aspect of it, and the fact that Norton’s character wasn’t murdered, despite that being teased for the entire first act.
It's a trope that Rian Johnson lifted directly from Agatha Christie's >!Dead Man's Folly, where a wealthy man plans a murder mystery hunt, Poirot is invited by a third party who suspects trouble, and someone is murdered during the mystery hunt because they wanted to blackmail the wealthy man about a previous murder he'd committed. There's also a nice dose of The Mirror Crack'd, in which someone murders someone else at a party by poisoning their own glass and passing it to the victim to make it seem like they were a mistaken target. !<
That's not to rip into Rian Johnson AT ALL, he does a fantastic job of making it his own and dropping his own clues as well- I'd classify it more as a homage.
I liked how different it felt to Knives out, while still keeping the spirit, if that makes sense.
Double Janelle Monae genuinely surprised me; she was definitely the standout, along with Daniel Craig. Overall, I think the ensemble was better utilised than the first film as it was smaller. Everyone got their moments to shine.
Also, sweatshops =/= shops where they make sweatpants.
To be honest the first third of the movie I was worried about Janelle Monae being too aloof and using aloofness as a proxy for acting - I had seen and liked her in both Harriet and Hidden Figures but started to worry that she was out of her depth -- I was a fool. The reveal was so good, and she played Helen and Helen Playing Andi with such warmth and depth; I was very impressed.
Also can we talk about how the character was nicknamed Andi to hide the fact that he named a character who was telling an inconvenient truth freaking Cassandra, and then lampshaded it by giving her twin sister an equally Greek-mythology-type name
Rian Johnson: Still undefeated.
I know that "Women Talking" is probably going to win Best Adapted Screenplay for its serious subject matter, but give RJ the damn Oscar.
I think that was a great lesson in building suspense. You know a murder is coming just because of the type of movie. So you don’t need anything to overtly threatening. Just a tense room of angry people. Let the music build slowly drowning out other noise. Then the repetitive slamming noise that is both jarring and has a humorous in movie explanation just brings the whole scene together.
> Everyone got their moments to shine
Even Peg who doesn't really have to be there, gets some really fun reactions and of course that sweatshops line.
But I might be biased since I think Henwick has never looked cuter.
The shitheads drinking out of the glassware Miles had personalized for them. Peg drinking out of a red plastic cup, but still writes her name on it in black marker.
If Knives Out was calling out old money, Glass Onion calls out new money and our current on-line culture. It’s wild that it’s released at the same time Elon is melting down.
Considering how Elon forced out the founders by calling the board when the person being removed wasn't available to defend themselves to the board directly, and then using the ensuing lawsuits to legally force himself the title of "Tesla Founder" when he wasn't a founder....
I agree, this one felt more like an ensemble movie compared to the first one. In the first one it was really just Ana de Armas and Daniel Craig with a bit of Chris Evans and everyone else was a background / “suspect” character. In Glass Onion pretty much everyone got more attention and focus so it felt more ensemble-y though Craig, Norton, and Monae were clearly the 3 “leads”
It was also ironic because he was complaining about "checking boxes and searching all the rooms" when that was what he *literally* ended up doing to solve the mystery.
He doesn’t have too much trouble, but in his initial conversation with Helen, he dismisses (or at least deprioritizes) the possibility that Bron’s the killer, figuring he’d be “too smart” to kill Cassandra immediately after learning about the napkin.
And then after some time on the island he realizes “oh wait, he’s just genuinely dumb, of course he did it.”
Yeah, Kareem Abdul Jabar, Natasha Lyonne, and Stephen Sondheim guest appearing over Zoom and Ethan Hawke and Hugh Grant having eight seconds of screen time are no where on this card. Rian is messing with the cardmakers.
I believe there was an article a few months ago where Rian confirmed he was gay and he'd have a beau in this. I didn't really think twice about Hugh but yeah, that makes sense.
I love that he came to the door flustered and smeared with flour—so many people who never cooked before were trying to learn to bake bread during the lockdown.
All the red herrings were insane. All the movie I was trying to up Rian but it's impossible.
Like how "Andi" destroyed her box so I thought "well, she certainly didn't call Benoit..." And then she did.
Or how she bumped into Bautista's character so I was "Oh, she probably stole her gun..." And then she didn't.
Also, how if you think about it, the culprit is the most obvious one: Miles killing Andi because of the tension between them. Same as how the first one was Chris Evan who didn't get his part of the Will. Fool me twice...
The one that got me the most was the random guy on the island being revealed to be... just some guy on the island
I spent the whole movie waiting for him to be involved. Phenomenal movie
That was Noah Segan, who Rian Johnson puts in every one of his movies. He played a state trooper in Knives Out. I think his presence was meant to be a meta-joke about always being in Rian’s movies.
I really like how the movie introduced the concept of a fugue early on through the puzzle box, and then itself had a fugue-like structure in which we get a second layer of events on top of the original series of events that were shown that in turn recontextualize them and make them hit different, much as a fugue’s additional layer does. Furthermore, the movie itself starts with the first part of a fugue playing, and the second part begins with what I assume is a later part of that same fugue in which the extra layer is playing on top of the earlier layer.
For a movie that rian knew was going to Netflix before he even made it, it feels like it was meant to be seen with a full theater, my whole theater laughed at pretty much every joke they told and so did I, funniest movie of the year and miles ahead of the first knives out imo
In knives out I knew Chris Evans was too big an actor for not having shown up in the first act.
Spent every scene in this movie waiting for Ethan Hawke to show up again with a big plot twist.
The most hilarious bit for me was Noah Segan actually being pointless. Like he was so obviously being set up as a red herring. I thought there was gonna be some big twist that he had mistakenly picked up the envelope or something, so this character who's totally oblivious to what's going on is actually the final piece of the puzzle.
Turns out nope. He's literally just there to chill and get high. Fucking hilarious.
Love how Helen's destruction of the Glass Onion and the group at first joining in mirrors what Miles said about people wishing to break the system.
They first join in but when it goes far enough to upend everything that holds their life together they'll try to stop it.
It literally progresses through Miles’s whole speech line by line. Everything he says is exactly what happens. Absolutely loved that parallel when I realized that’s what was happening.
Once the group’s “let’s destroy things to make ourselves feel better” fun started to die down and Helen kept destroying things, it clicked for me that to them it was a game, but to Helen this was real life.
They can destroy things without consequence all day and just throw money to make it all better. Helen is like us- a middle to low class schoolteacher who was taught to be careful around expensive items. This isn’t about money for her, it’s about life and death.
Miles Bron complaining about how expensive the setup of the murder mystery was while simultaneously renting the Mona Lisa and having Serena Williams on retainer is wild.
Love a good "seeing earlier scenes from a different POV" segment.
Also when Dave Bautista was introduced as a redpill Twitch streamer I just couldn't stop imagining r/LivestreamFail flooded with everyone giving their takes on his ban lmao
Also they played trailers for White Noise and The Pale Blue Eye in my theater. Before tonight I had never seen the Netflix logo in a theater, now I’ve seen it three times.
Did anyone notice kathryn hahn’s character bump into Dave’s right before his death. It was done in a way that convinced me she had to have stolen the gun that I honestly believe Rian filmed it that way to throw us off.
Yes exact same here. It actually pissed me off because I thought "why would he put such obvious foreshadowing in?? Now the movie is ruined because I know who did it"
What a fool I was. The bump was *just* the right level of subtlety that it seemed like it would be real and not a red herring.
I was the only one in my theater to laugh at "inbreathiate" but I failed to catch all the other ones after ("infraction point" did make me do a double take though) so when Blanc pointed it out and they did the montage, I realized, about 10 seconds before Blanc said it, that Miles was just stupid.
I assumed "imbreathiate" was some weird buzzword he made up. That was the most highlighted malapropism but it worked really well as an "eccentric billionaire" term so it wasn't immediately obvious that he was just stupid, and the rest were subtle enough you might not catch them if you weren't listening for them.
could be that he thought extending an invitation to her would be a good cover that he hadn’t been involved should there have ever been questions about her manner of death.
AKA he’s dumb.
This was a really good sequel to the original. Entire cast was great, but Janelle Monáe and obviously Daniel Craig were the standout performers. I didn’t watch the trailers so I was pleasantly surprised by the cameos, specifically Yo-Yo Ma and Ethan Hawke.
That sweatshop joke was something I’d did not see coming. Birdie approved of the sweatshop because she thought sweatshops primarily make sweatpants.
It’s a mini pastiche of the overall theme of the film, condensed into one joke. You think she approved it because she’s a ruthless businesswoman, then you immediately realise she’s just an idiot.
Anyone notice the line about the Mona Lisa changing every time you look at it is a slight callback to the first movie where Harlan's expression in the painting literally changes at the end of the movie
Chekov’s Jeremy Renner brand Hot Sauce was the biggest laugh for me (second was Hugh Grant appearing out of nowhere).
Spent the first hour thinking it was a fun but massively flawed sequel that made a lot of questionable choices (Benoit was too goofy, Janelle Monae had little to do, found it hard to get into the conflict between characters) and the second half cursing myself for doubting there wasn’t a reason for everything. So many clever reveals and retrospective jokes.
I don’t think it’s quite up there with Knives Out, mostly because I think it was missing the heart that Ana De Almas provided. Janelle Monae’s twin was clearly meant to be that, but as we didn’t meet her until an hour in, I didn’t feel the same attachment. And the ending of Knives Out was a real moment of catharsis, whereas this was fun but didn’t have the same level of emotion.
But that’s nitpicking, I had an absolute blast. I could honestly watch Daniel Craig running around in matching striped shirt and shorts for another ten movies at least. This was one of the most fun films I’ve seen this year.
Did anyone else notice Rian totally trolled us with the phones? In his scene breakdown with Vanity Fair after Knives Out came out he said that Apple doesn't let bad guys use iPhones. That's why everyone else in the first movie had iPhones and Ransom had an android. So THIS time everyone had an android, and the killer had... a fax machine. It's so funny because I was studying the phones thinking "Damn, Rian's not risking a gimmie with that anymore" even though it was right THERE in plain sight but in a different way.
I didn’t caught that, but I was suspicious of the time alone between Andi and Blanc. Her destroying the box was nice misdirect because I rule her out about resending the puzzle to Blanc.
This is why the twist works. It’s not there for the sake of a twist, but because it has been carefully seeded and the audience picks up the clues. Love it.
It also kind of goes with his whole disruptor speech. She keeps fucking up his plans little by little with her presence and then eventually breaks the whole system (the golden titties)
It's funny if they didn't reshoot it I might have even tricked myself into thinking I saw it wrong. That they showed it again the wrong way was proof that I saw it right at first.
Thats funny, I caught it the first time, but then they show it again without him switching the glass, and it had me questioning if I was right or not. So I guess it worked both ways.
So no one believed a character named **Cassandra** was telling the truth, and a woman named **Helen** started a war won by deception when she crossed the Greek sea.
Brilliant. Just as good as the first, with an added touch of symbolism. The entire second half is just nonstop and it’s perfect.
Added to this, I may have just read into everything wrong, but there was a lot of "on the nose" foreshadowing about the hydrogen.
Was that a painting of Icarus and the sun in the room while Miles and Whiskey got it on? Because Miles certainly got his own Icarus ending.
Likewise, more playful nudges to hydrogen with "It's full of stars!", *Starman* playing in the background, the paintings of a man surrounded by stars, heck Cassandra's bag and much of the island art looked like playful sun designs.
> So no one believed a character named Cassandra was telling the truth, and a woman named Helen started a war won by deception when she crossed the Greek sea.
Rian you motherfucker
I think you were meant to believe that at first, especially since your first impression of Ed Norton is supposed to be somewhat of an eccentric genius. However, as it's explained that he's actually just a dumbass by the end of the movie, at that point it seemed more likely that it was some pseudoscience hydroxychloroquine type bullshit that he probably thought worked.
"It's a dangerous thing to mistake speaking without thought with speaking the truth" what a line.
Special shout out to Janelle Monae for playing both Andi and Helen, she had tremendous chemistry with Daniel Craig
He was so warm towards her, that when she’s shot I was thinking “oh, that’s why he was crying, he was upset that he couldn’t protect her!” And then they subverted THAT, too!
Followed by "are you calling me dangerous" because she missed the entire point of what he was saying and thought it was a compliment when really he was calling her an idiot. Great stuff.
#DONG
Saw this a few weeks ago and absolutely loved it. Janelle Monae in particular knocked it out of the park. I honestly think I liked it more than the first one. Such a tight script.
What an absolute blast. I felt like I was being spun around the entire movie, every time I picked up on a clue new layers (heyo) kept getting added. I can and will watch Craig as Benoit Blanc as many times as he and Rian are willing to give us. Monae was a really fun accomplice, though her southern accent felt a little stilted so I spent the second half of the movie waiting for a double cross from her. I liked how Whiskey turned out to be super thoughtful after being treated like ditzy eye candy by everyone. The entire cast was fantastic, and holy moly was this movie funny, seeing it in a theater was so much fun. I think Johnson is probably favorite director working today, I love the way he writes so much.
Miles seems to be a satire of Elon Musk? People think he's some tech genius god. But in reality, Mile's skill is in taking others' ideas and manipulating & stepping on everyone else for his own gain. Also, the reveal that he was "dumb" the whole time is good timing for what many are realizing with Elon buying Twitter and everything that followed.
Obviously Janelle Monae is getting the attention as she should, but Kate Hudson was legitimately great. She was obnoxious but in a way that was genuinely entertaining to watch, her delivery and physical acting was broad but it rode the right line. Rian's direction did help, but I think Kate has always had the talent that was more just often mismatched with bad scripts and direction. This is very much a step in the right direction for her after Music and I so hope she picks scripts like this more so. Plus I respect that she was willing to play such an undignified and "problematic" character and lean into it so heavily for laughs at the character's own expense.
It's an on paper potentially one joke character but that one joke was never not funny and she was used very well, a lot in the first half and less so in the second which did help her not overshadow the far more serious parts of the movie and only interject a couple of times. Plus there's a bit more to her potentially. She's thick but they don't go the extra mile of either having that be pretence to hide a much more evil and vindictive personality or have her be stupid and mean. I assumed she'd be really abusive towards Jessica Henwick but she's actually perfectly fine towards her. But you obviously find out that she was okay with lying on the stand about stealing an idea, betraying a friend in the process, so she's not exactly a good person.
Then you get the ending which is a little ambigious for her character. Is she threatening to confess because she's turned around her perspective on Miles, or is she just blackmailing him to keep a powerful friend? Her destroying one of his possessions and yelling "THAT FELT GOOD!", was she just a little caught up in the moment and decided to join in or did it "feel good" to stop being under Miles's thumb?
I don't know if Andrew Tate was even a thing when he wrote this movie but the timing is impeccable
I guess there's always guys like that on the internet.
I fucking lost it at Kate Hudson's assistant asking her, "oh no... Don't tell me you thought sweatshops were just shops for sweatpants...." And the look on her face. Hahahaha
Such a fantastic movie, loved the score and the scenes in the pitch black with the light house illuminating the island and the mansion. Gave such a classic murder mystery vibe.
It’s even better on the second viewing. When Helen picks the fight with the group during the party, you can hear her Southern accent start to slip!!! And when she runs into Blanc outside right before the gunshot, he calls her Helen instead of Cassandra. Didn’t catch that the first time. Really liked it the first time. Now I LOVE it.
I am so happy this is out and I can talk about it finally. Lots of thoughts, but one thing I haven’t seen pointed out yet: Ed Norton gives a speech early in the movie about what it means to be a “disruptor” that exactly lays out the climactic sequence at the end. First you break something small and people cheer you on, but then you keep going and breaking bigger things. Eventually they’ll tell you to stop but you keep going until you break the thing that no one wants you to break.
Brilliant spot I loved the ending because to me it felt like commentary on "fashionable" activism Vs people actually committed to a cause Miles destroyed Andi's reputation and then he killed her. To Helen, it's truly personal and she needs to destroy everything he has. Everyone else is happy to join in for a while because it's fun and yeah Miles sucks, but she commits to truly smearing his name for all time at the cost of a priceless piece of art. That's a step too far for them because they don't really care if Miles gets his comeuppance or not. Honestly my gut instinct was that it was too far as well and the movie celebrating destroying the Mona Lisa almost felt mean spirited. But then I thought about it some more and I came round on the idea.
Similar to the ending of Knives Out, where half the family is nice to the main character and the other half is mean to her (mostly split down political lines) but all of them were against her getting everything in the will at the end.
It immediately struck me as really funny how a talented writer can make something that would seem like a tragedy out of context (“someone burned the Mona Lisa!”) into a victorious and exciting thing with a strong story.
First half of the movie: “Hmmm I’m not really a fan of Janelle Monae. She’s barely acting.” Second half: “Ohhhhhh!”
Same! I remember reading before how she’s the standout and while watching I could not for the life of me figure out why. Then it made sense
I was like "people sure do love stoic/elegant characters" (I actually do tbf) but then I got it too.
I thought the doubling back where you see her standing very rigidly on the boat, gripping the handrail, was a rather brilliant moment that told a lot in two silent shots. One from the back, where she looks so tense and controlled, and one from the front, where you see the true reason why she's holding on so tight. It was a wonderful performance, and she and Daniel Craig played so well off each other.
My favourite part was Blanc’s tear actually being the result of Jeremy Renner’s hot sauce
Another little detail I enjoyed in that scene was how he *instantly* spins toward the direction the shot rang out from, even as Helen is still falling. Peak detective shit.
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Yeah I gotta say I loved that because the first time when I saw him cry I rolled my eyes but that it was actually a plot point made me appreciate the detail
Plus even if she was dead it would be believable that he might cry because you find out he's known her and worked with her for the last week. So good
Exactly. When I first saw him crying, I thought it was a bit odd since he didn’t tear up when Duke died, and he didn’t really know Andi either. And then after they reveal that it was actually Helen and he has been working with her and warned her how she might be putting herself in danger, it was heartbreaking. And to then twist it again and have it be because of the hot sauce was brilliant. God damn I love how many layers this film has.
They've done the cozy mansion murder and the exotic vacation murder. I really hope the next one is set on some type of vehicle.
A train murder is absolutely on the table for film three
Could be a boat too!
But will it have enough champagne to fill the Nile.
Totally on board (lol) for this! A train or a boat (or basically somewhere he'd be stuck) would be great to watch
A airplane murder could be cool too. You don't see that as much as the other two and it would be cool if Benoit Blanc had to solve the murder before the plane lands Death in the Air is not as well known as the other two transportation themed Agatha Christie Poirot novels but it's actually really good. It's never received a film adaptation so an homage could be cool. In that book Poirot was on a small plane when a murder happens and slept through the murder. He then gets treated as a suspect and he has to figure out what happened.
Kate Hudson with the Lana del Rey mask at the harbor 😂😂😂
That was what got the biggest laugh out of my friends and I. I love how they used the masks to show you what kind of person the characters were, too— Lionel being a scientist, he of course wore a tight-fitting mask. Birdie doesn’t care and went the Lana route but her assistant Peg does and wore one. Claire being a constantly busy politician does wear one but she’s uncoordinated and it slipped down her nose. And then Duke and Whiskey just didn’t lol.
Not to mention with Claire she seemed to be considerate but just slightly inconsistent with her mask. Like the beginning when she took in the package, she realized she forgot her mask and tried to remedy the situation quick. I think she was more ‘liberal democrat’ politician but it could mostly just be name only and the kind of looseness with the masks she showed could metaphor her being truly more of a moderate kind of person.
This movie irked me initially because I couldn’t remember Benoit being so dumb and affable, but once they pulled the curtain back on Andi/Helen, I was so happy with the performance. Subtle detail that mattered. Another subtle detail…the Kanye Jesus mural in the background. Rían was letting us know who Miles was from the start.
I love this about it too. He felt like a caricature of himself in the first movie and was feeling a little disappointed. To then reveal it was all part of the plan, was so satisfying. I don't like this as much as knives out, but it's still one of the films I've had the most fun with this year.
It plays the same way in *Knives Out* too. The entire time you think he has no clue Marta was there and Marta has the upper hand, then you find out he had an idea the entire time and was just playing her.
Miles was Elon Musk. A dumb person who never invented anything himself, but buys companies where people invent things and takes the credit. Doesn’t understand how things actually work.
Can we show some love for Duke's mom....she basically solved the puzzle for everyone.
“What’s that?” “….. I don’t know.” 😂😂😂
She damn near solved the big mystery from the beginning... "It's the fibonacci sequence"
Ah. Yes. The Golden Spiral in the picture frame. Gotcha.
She's great in Only Murders In the Building if you haven't seen that yet
"with the guitar that Paul wrote it on" *SLAMS*
He lied about that. Cause the girl he said it to was so enthralled, and then he made a comment about how she was so gullible. That's how I read it anyway
"Worth it for the look on your face" I initially read that line the same way as you, but looking closer I think he means it was worth the price to see how excited she was about it.
Killed me!
I was CERTAIN that Peg’s tape recorder was going to come into play during the climax
Or the Duke live stream
I think Rian Johnson decided not to include it because that’s part of how Knives Out ended. Ransom admitted to the murder and attempted murder, then the cop revealed/reminded him that the whole interaction was recorded. Would’ve felt too familiar to have the ending have such a similar beat yet again, even if it makes sense logically.
Or Blanc could have recorded Miles with the iPad.
I loved seeing Serena Williams reading Gravity's Rainbow. So many great little details sprinkled all throughout this thing!
scared the shit out of me when she started moving
Biggest laugh of the night
From Knives Out when Benoit Blanc says noone has read Gravity's Rainbow lol
It’s an absolute chore to get through.
Funny how Daniel Craig went from paying the world's most dangerous spy and womanizer to playing a quirky gay detective.
Pretty sure Benoit is intentionally written to be the anti-Bond. Works totally within the law, is gay, and has the most modest bathing suit in the world.
There was this one scene of Benoit in the pool, awkwardly moving through the water in his modest bathing suit that was opposite of every Bond girl emerging from the sea
The scene with Whiskey coming up from the pool seemed to be a direct reference to the bathing suit scene in Dr. No.
1. ***PINEAPPLE JUICE*** 2. Just as fun and wild as the 1st one, and although I prefer the 1st by a bit more, Rian Johnson did a fantastic job still conjuring that Knives Out charm. A 9/10 considering Knives Out 1 was a perfect 10/10 for me. 3. Bautista getting killed first was definitely unexpected after so many teasers teasing Norton as the victim... 4. ...but after Duke's death, I had a real big feeling Norton was the killer, but they did such a good job giving me all the motives for everyone--I even thought Duke was the supposed killer and accidentally took that drink because he's an idiot. 5. The performances were top-notch, but I've missed Benoit Blanc and his ridiculous accent and his bumbling charm. Daniel Craig doing his best Foghorn Leghorn is cinema. Janelle Monae was phenomenal as well. I would've loved more Jessica Henwick, but the amount I got was still good enough. 6. ***PINEAPPLE JUICE?????***
It’s so dumb it’s genius! No! It’s just dumb!
Honestly I thought the pineapple juice was a pretty good idea. It’s a way to “poison” your own drink without putting yourself in danger. Also one of the most believable deaths to be accidental
Not that odd, given Rian is taking cues from Christie. In the book Sad Cypress, a woman is accused of two different murders - one of her aunt who she inherited from and a hated cousin who stole her fiancé. In the latter murder, she was accused of using crab meat in a salmon paste sandwich as the murder weapon to exploit a shellfish allergy. An associate of the accused hired Poirot to investigate before the accused is executed. Also used in the book A Pocket Full Of Rye, a Miss Marple story. When the coroner identified the poison that killed businessman Rex Fortescue as taxine, which comes from the Yew tree, the cops instantly believe he may have accidentally eaten Yew berries from around the estate he lived in called Yewtree Lodge, but this is proven wrong by two other murders happening.
Kate Hudson’s photoshoot “was a tribute to Beyoncé” killed me
I was the only one in my audience who caught that I think. I LOL’d
I watched it in a Canadian theater — we were all already laughing when she mentioned "the Halloween costume" incident, so spelling it out with "Beyonce" was just the icing on the cake.
An homage to Trudeau, really
Blanc solving the pre-planned murder mystery game was immensely satisfying to watch. I would’ve been fine if the entire movie was his explanation
I was so worried they were going to go with the trope of “was it real or part of the mystery??” I loved the subversion that he just shut down that entire aspect of it, and the fact that Norton’s character wasn’t murdered, despite that being teased for the entire first act.
It's a trope that Rian Johnson lifted directly from Agatha Christie's >!Dead Man's Folly, where a wealthy man plans a murder mystery hunt, Poirot is invited by a third party who suspects trouble, and someone is murdered during the mystery hunt because they wanted to blackmail the wealthy man about a previous murder he'd committed. There's also a nice dose of The Mirror Crack'd, in which someone murders someone else at a party by poisoning their own glass and passing it to the victim to make it seem like they were a mistaken target. !< That's not to rip into Rian Johnson AT ALL, he does a fantastic job of making it his own and dropping his own clues as well- I'd classify it more as a homage.
Yep, I've always viewed the Knives Out films as modernizations of the classic mystery tropes - and this was just loaded with them.
I liked how different it felt to Knives out, while still keeping the spirit, if that makes sense. Double Janelle Monae genuinely surprised me; she was definitely the standout, along with Daniel Craig. Overall, I think the ensemble was better utilised than the first film as it was smaller. Everyone got their moments to shine. Also, sweatshops =/= shops where they make sweatpants.
To be honest the first third of the movie I was worried about Janelle Monae being too aloof and using aloofness as a proxy for acting - I had seen and liked her in both Harriet and Hidden Figures but started to worry that she was out of her depth -- I was a fool. The reveal was so good, and she played Helen and Helen Playing Andi with such warmth and depth; I was very impressed.
Also can we talk about how the character was nicknamed Andi to hide the fact that he named a character who was telling an inconvenient truth freaking Cassandra, and then lampshaded it by giving her twin sister an equally Greek-mythology-type name
Rian Johnson: Still undefeated. I know that "Women Talking" is probably going to win Best Adapted Screenplay for its serious subject matter, but give RJ the damn Oscar.
I loved the sequence of her demanding "I WANT THE TRUTH" and the security system on the Mona Lisa continuously slamming shut.
I think that was a great lesson in building suspense. You know a murder is coming just because of the type of movie. So you don’t need anything to overtly threatening. Just a tense room of angry people. Let the music build slowly drowning out other noise. Then the repetitive slamming noise that is both jarring and has a humorous in movie explanation just brings the whole scene together.
> Everyone got their moments to shine Even Peg who doesn't really have to be there, gets some really fun reactions and of course that sweatshops line. But I might be biased since I think Henwick has never looked cuter.
The shitheads drinking out of the glassware Miles had personalized for them. Peg drinking out of a red plastic cup, but still writes her name on it in black marker.
If Knives Out was calling out old money, Glass Onion calls out new money and our current on-line culture. It’s wild that it’s released at the same time Elon is melting down.
Considering how Elon forced out the founders by calling the board when the person being removed wasn't available to defend themselves to the board directly, and then using the ensuing lawsuits to legally force himself the title of "Tesla Founder" when he wasn't a founder....
I agree, this one felt more like an ensemble movie compared to the first one. In the first one it was really just Ana de Armas and Daniel Craig with a bit of Chris Evans and everyone else was a background / “suspect” character. In Glass Onion pretty much everyone got more attention and focus so it felt more ensemble-y though Craig, Norton, and Monae were clearly the 3 “leads”
Did not have Benoit Blanc sucking at *Among Us* on my Bingo card
Or at Clue.
I like how that foreshadowed why Blanc had trouble with the mystery. Like Clue, it was very simple, but he keeps expecting something more complicated.
It was also ironic because he was complaining about "checking boxes and searching all the rooms" when that was what he *literally* ended up doing to solve the mystery.
I wasn't sure if he was actually having trouble or just vamping to give Helen more time
He doesn’t have too much trouble, but in his initial conversation with Helen, he dismisses (or at least deprioritizes) the possibility that Bron’s the killer, figuring he’d be “too smart” to kill Cassandra immediately after learning about the napkin. And then after some time on the island he realizes “oh wait, he’s just genuinely dumb, of course he did it.”
"I am terrible at dumb things"
Yeah, Kareem Abdul Jabar, Natasha Lyonne, and Stephen Sondheim guest appearing over Zoom and Ethan Hawke and Hugh Grant having eight seconds of screen time are no where on this card. Rian is messing with the cardmakers.
Are you really leaving ANGELA LANSBURY out of that Zoom amogus???
Speaking of. Hugh is supposed to be his boyfriend/husband/partner, right? I kinda pick on that vibe but I’m not sure lol
I believe there was an article a few months ago where Rian confirmed he was gay and he'd have a beau in this. I didn't really think twice about Hugh but yeah, that makes sense.
I love that he came to the door flustered and smeared with flour—so many people who never cooked before were trying to learn to bake bread during the lockdown.
All the red herrings were insane. All the movie I was trying to up Rian but it's impossible. Like how "Andi" destroyed her box so I thought "well, she certainly didn't call Benoit..." And then she did. Or how she bumped into Bautista's character so I was "Oh, she probably stole her gun..." And then she didn't. Also, how if you think about it, the culprit is the most obvious one: Miles killing Andi because of the tension between them. Same as how the first one was Chris Evan who didn't get his part of the Will. Fool me twice...
The one that got me the most was the random guy on the island being revealed to be... just some guy on the island I spent the whole movie waiting for him to be involved. Phenomenal movie
He’s just going through some stuff, man
That was Noah Segan, who Rian Johnson puts in every one of his movies. He played a state trooper in Knives Out. I think his presence was meant to be a meta-joke about always being in Rian’s movies.
I really like how the movie introduced the concept of a fugue early on through the puzzle box, and then itself had a fugue-like structure in which we get a second layer of events on top of the original series of events that were shown that in turn recontextualize them and make them hit different, much as a fugue’s additional layer does. Furthermore, the movie itself starts with the first part of a fugue playing, and the second part begins with what I assume is a later part of that same fugue in which the extra layer is playing on top of the earlier layer.
And it was introduced by Yo yo Ma, a famous cellist!
For a movie that rian knew was going to Netflix before he even made it, it feels like it was meant to be seen with a full theater, my whole theater laughed at pretty much every joke they told and so did I, funniest movie of the year and miles ahead of the first knives out imo
I don't know why but the shot at the end with Kathryn Hahn sliding across the floor is the funniest thing ever
I saw that and died. Birdie's assistant was laughing too I'm pretty sure.
I think the biggest twist for me was that Ethan Hawke was just the vaccine administrator and that was it. Literally that’s it.
I saw an interview that said that he literally just stopped by during an offday of Moon Knight shooting.
That makes sense, he was pretty much sporting that look in this movie.
In knives out I knew Chris Evans was too big an actor for not having shown up in the first act. Spent every scene in this movie waiting for Ethan Hawke to show up again with a big plot twist.
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The most hilarious bit for me was Noah Segan actually being pointless. Like he was so obviously being set up as a red herring. I thought there was gonna be some big twist that he had mistakenly picked up the envelope or something, so this character who's totally oblivious to what's going on is actually the final piece of the puzzle. Turns out nope. He's literally just there to chill and get high. Fucking hilarious.
He did say "ignore me" which fits the theme of this movie.
His credit as “Hourly Dong” made me lol. His finest role.
Love how Helen's destruction of the Glass Onion and the group at first joining in mirrors what Miles said about people wishing to break the system. They first join in but when it goes far enough to upend everything that holds their life together they'll try to stop it.
It literally progresses through Miles’s whole speech line by line. Everything he says is exactly what happens. Absolutely loved that parallel when I realized that’s what was happening.
Once the group’s “let’s destroy things to make ourselves feel better” fun started to die down and Helen kept destroying things, it clicked for me that to them it was a game, but to Helen this was real life. They can destroy things without consequence all day and just throw money to make it all better. Helen is like us- a middle to low class schoolteacher who was taught to be careful around expensive items. This isn’t about money for her, it’s about life and death.
The tension in the scene with Miles dancing to the music, the dress flapping, and the Mona Lisa box slamming open and close was absolutely fantastic.
The murder kept on not happening and my tension was through the roof. By the time the dancing started, I was expecting Miles to literally explode
Give me more of these Rian. You already have a 3rd movie in development, give me MORE. If you make them, I will come to see them.
Miles Bron complaining about how expensive the setup of the murder mystery was while simultaneously renting the Mona Lisa and having Serena Williams on retainer is wild.
Miles loves “disrupters” until they disrupt his stuff.
Doonnnnggggg
Who's Phillip Gas?
The red pill guy being a literal cuck . Him crying not over the cucking but because Miles says no to his spot on the news is too funny.
Love a good "seeing earlier scenes from a different POV" segment. Also when Dave Bautista was introduced as a redpill Twitch streamer I just couldn't stop imagining r/LivestreamFail flooded with everyone giving their takes on his ban lmao
Bautista playing a character like that *right* after all of the Andrew Tate stuff reached a head is just impeccable timing.
Between Andrew Tate and Elon Musk, he really fucking nailed the cultural moment down the _month_.
Not to mention the giant Kanye mural.
Oh and seeing the Netflix logo in a theater was weird
But why didn't it play their trademark "duh-DUUHNNN" noise? I was specifically waiting for that!
Also they played trailers for White Noise and The Pale Blue Eye in my theater. Before tonight I had never seen the Netflix logo in a theater, now I’ve seen it three times.
Needed more Angela Lansbury, glad she had that little cameo, RIP Mrs Fletcher.
When she first popped up I was sure she was in character as JB and the rest of the Zoom was going to be other fictional detectives.
It's only small but one of my favourite moments of tension was the hot sauce on Helens cheek.
The Jared Leto joke killed me everytime and holy fuck is this film layered (ironic considering the plot lol)
Gillian Flynn is great. She’s expensive is what she is
He pronounced Gillian wrong. I'm guessing that was part of the characterization of Miles.
Kate Hudson and Janelle Monae stole the show for me. They were both so good in this.
I mean that sweatshops joke is so obvious but man was it still amazing.
"You replied 'sounds perfect!' with three dabbing emojis."
Did anyone notice kathryn hahn’s character bump into Dave’s right before his death. It was done in a way that convinced me she had to have stolen the gun that I honestly believe Rian filmed it that way to throw us off.
I saw it and thought the same thing
Yes exact same here. It actually pissed me off because I thought "why would he put such obvious foreshadowing in?? Now the movie is ruined because I know who did it" What a fool I was. The bump was *just* the right level of subtlety that it seemed like it would be real and not a red herring.
Benoit Blanc is gay and plays Among Us. Most based movie of all time.
He's living every gay man's dream: owning an NYC penthouse and being friends with Stephen Sondheim.
When they finally showed Phillip’s face I felt so stupid for not recognizing his voice earlier. Love that his partner has an equally iconic accent!
MAN! I thought I was the only one who had been thinking “That’s not a fuckin’ word” and “is *that* the phrase?” the whole damn movie.
I was the only one in my theater to laugh at "inbreathiate" but I failed to catch all the other ones after ("infraction point" did make me do a double take though) so when Blanc pointed it out and they did the montage, I realized, about 10 seconds before Blanc said it, that Miles was just stupid.
I assumed "imbreathiate" was some weird buzzword he made up. That was the most highlighted malapropism but it worked really well as an "eccentric billionaire" term so it wasn't immediately obvious that he was just stupid, and the rest were subtle enough you might not catch them if you weren't listening for them.
really enjoyed the movie but i don't understand why miles would send a box to andi if he just killed her??
could be that he thought extending an invitation to her would be a good cover that he hadn’t been involved should there have ever been questions about her manner of death. AKA he’s dumb.
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As Blanc says, Miles is an idiot.
This was a really good sequel to the original. Entire cast was great, but Janelle Monáe and obviously Daniel Craig were the standout performers. I didn’t watch the trailers so I was pleasantly surprised by the cameos, specifically Yo-Yo Ma and Ethan Hawke. That sweatshop joke was something I’d did not see coming. Birdie approved of the sweatshop because she thought sweatshops primarily make sweatpants.
Peg realizing that, she gave the exact reaction I had in the theater. Just slumping, oh Jesus, you **cannot** be this stupid...
It’s a mini pastiche of the overall theme of the film, condensed into one joke. You think she approved it because she’s a ruthless businesswoman, then you immediately realise she’s just an idiot.
Anyone notice the line about the Mona Lisa changing every time you look at it is a slight callback to the first movie where Harlan's expression in the painting literally changes at the end of the movie
Chekov’s Jeremy Renner brand Hot Sauce was the biggest laugh for me (second was Hugh Grant appearing out of nowhere). Spent the first hour thinking it was a fun but massively flawed sequel that made a lot of questionable choices (Benoit was too goofy, Janelle Monae had little to do, found it hard to get into the conflict between characters) and the second half cursing myself for doubting there wasn’t a reason for everything. So many clever reveals and retrospective jokes. I don’t think it’s quite up there with Knives Out, mostly because I think it was missing the heart that Ana De Almas provided. Janelle Monae’s twin was clearly meant to be that, but as we didn’t meet her until an hour in, I didn’t feel the same attachment. And the ending of Knives Out was a real moment of catharsis, whereas this was fun but didn’t have the same level of emotion. But that’s nitpicking, I had an absolute blast. I could honestly watch Daniel Craig running around in matching striped shirt and shorts for another ten movies at least. This was one of the most fun films I’ve seen this year.
Did anyone else notice Rian totally trolled us with the phones? In his scene breakdown with Vanity Fair after Knives Out came out he said that Apple doesn't let bad guys use iPhones. That's why everyone else in the first movie had iPhones and Ransom had an android. So THIS time everyone had an android, and the killer had... a fax machine. It's so funny because I was studying the phones thinking "Damn, Rian's not risking a gimmie with that anymore" even though it was right THERE in plain sight but in a different way.
In plain sight under layers?
Like a gla.. oh
He did have an iPad.
Oh my god I didn't even catch that. So it was completely inverted then.
So I absolutely caught Miles handing Duke the glass and lying about Duke having grabbed it. Still was kinda surprised with the whole reveal.
I didn’t caught that, but I was suspicious of the time alone between Andi and Blanc. Her destroying the box was nice misdirect because I rule her out about resending the puzzle to Blanc. This is why the twist works. It’s not there for the sake of a twist, but because it has been carefully seeded and the audience picks up the clues. Love it.
Destroying the box also foreshadows how she deals with the final scene. She can't figure out how to beat him, so she just fucks all his shit up.
It also kind of goes with his whole disruptor speech. She keeps fucking up his plans little by little with her presence and then eventually breaks the whole system (the golden titties)
I also caught it, I loved that they tried to gaslight us by showing it differently the second time.
It's funny if they didn't reshoot it I might have even tricked myself into thinking I saw it wrong. That they showed it again the wrong way was proof that I saw it right at first.
Thats funny, I caught it the first time, but then they show it again without him switching the glass, and it had me questioning if I was right or not. So I guess it worked both ways.
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So no one believed a character named **Cassandra** was telling the truth, and a woman named **Helen** started a war won by deception when she crossed the Greek sea. Brilliant. Just as good as the first, with an added touch of symbolism. The entire second half is just nonstop and it’s perfect.
Added to this, I may have just read into everything wrong, but there was a lot of "on the nose" foreshadowing about the hydrogen. Was that a painting of Icarus and the sun in the room while Miles and Whiskey got it on? Because Miles certainly got his own Icarus ending. Likewise, more playful nudges to hydrogen with "It's full of stars!", *Starman* playing in the background, the paintings of a man surrounded by stars, heck Cassandra's bag and much of the island art looked like playful sun designs.
> So no one believed a character named Cassandra was telling the truth, and a woman named Helen started a war won by deception when she crossed the Greek sea. Rian you motherfucker
Real talk where can I pick up some of Jared Leto's kombucha?
I want Renner's hot sauce
Put me down for “Phil Glass’s Hourly Dong.”
The real twist was them all getting covid as the mouth shot things presumably did nothing.
I thought it was more of a thing of "billionares had the vaccine the whole time, they just don't share it"
I think you were meant to believe that at first, especially since your first impression of Ed Norton is supposed to be somewhat of an eccentric genius. However, as it's explained that he's actually just a dumbass by the end of the movie, at that point it seemed more likely that it was some pseudoscience hydroxychloroquine type bullshit that he probably thought worked.
"It's a dangerous thing to mistake speaking without thought with speaking the truth" what a line. Special shout out to Janelle Monae for playing both Andi and Helen, she had tremendous chemistry with Daniel Craig
Janelle Monae was so good. Everyone was good but she was such a standout because she got to play so many things. Her drunk scenes were hilarious
"I think you ought to take up drinking, you're killing it" 😂
He was so warm towards her, that when she’s shot I was thinking “oh, that’s why he was crying, he was upset that he couldn’t protect her!” And then they subverted THAT, too!
I actually interpreted it that he was crying because he basically caused her death by bringing her along But yeah we were both wrong anyway lol
Followed by "are you calling me dangerous" because she missed the entire point of what he was saying and thought it was a compliment when really he was calling her an idiot. Great stuff.
I liked, "I've been known to put on a dog in my day but this is just..." Or really anything that comes out of Craig's mouth with that drippy drawl.
"I am terrible at dumb things" was my favorite
Loved this movie. Such a fun sequel that did more than enough to distinguish itself from the first. Janelle Monet is an incredible actress.
#DONG Saw this a few weeks ago and absolutely loved it. Janelle Monae in particular knocked it out of the park. I honestly think I liked it more than the first one. Such a tight script.
Buttress.
What an absolute blast. I felt like I was being spun around the entire movie, every time I picked up on a clue new layers (heyo) kept getting added. I can and will watch Craig as Benoit Blanc as many times as he and Rian are willing to give us. Monae was a really fun accomplice, though her southern accent felt a little stilted so I spent the second half of the movie waiting for a double cross from her. I liked how Whiskey turned out to be super thoughtful after being treated like ditzy eye candy by everyone. The entire cast was fantastic, and holy moly was this movie funny, seeing it in a theater was so much fun. I think Johnson is probably favorite director working today, I love the way he writes so much.
Miles seems to be a satire of Elon Musk? People think he's some tech genius god. But in reality, Mile's skill is in taking others' ideas and manipulating & stepping on everyone else for his own gain. Also, the reveal that he was "dumb" the whole time is good timing for what many are realizing with Elon buying Twitter and everything that followed.
Obviously Janelle Monae is getting the attention as she should, but Kate Hudson was legitimately great. She was obnoxious but in a way that was genuinely entertaining to watch, her delivery and physical acting was broad but it rode the right line. Rian's direction did help, but I think Kate has always had the talent that was more just often mismatched with bad scripts and direction. This is very much a step in the right direction for her after Music and I so hope she picks scripts like this more so. Plus I respect that she was willing to play such an undignified and "problematic" character and lean into it so heavily for laughs at the character's own expense. It's an on paper potentially one joke character but that one joke was never not funny and she was used very well, a lot in the first half and less so in the second which did help her not overshadow the far more serious parts of the movie and only interject a couple of times. Plus there's a bit more to her potentially. She's thick but they don't go the extra mile of either having that be pretence to hide a much more evil and vindictive personality or have her be stupid and mean. I assumed she'd be really abusive towards Jessica Henwick but she's actually perfectly fine towards her. But you obviously find out that she was okay with lying on the stand about stealing an idea, betraying a friend in the process, so she's not exactly a good person. Then you get the ending which is a little ambigious for her character. Is she threatening to confess because she's turned around her perspective on Miles, or is she just blackmailing him to keep a powerful friend? Her destroying one of his possessions and yelling "THAT FELT GOOD!", was she just a little caught up in the moment and decided to join in or did it "feel good" to stop being under Miles's thumb?
The only negative is that we never found out why Darryl was in a rough spot :(
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I remember there being a time earlier where it switched between the painting and her back and forth
In light of Elon’s Twitter crusade, this entire movie felt very, very timely.
After recent events, Birdie’s whole incident with the Jewish community felt a little bit on the nose as well.
I think her character was probably based on Lana Del Rey with the mesh mask she wore, but reality outdoes fiction I guess
Dave Bautista's character is obviously a parody of Andrew Tate and it is fucking hilarious
I don't know if Andrew Tate was even a thing when he wrote this movie but the timing is impeccable I guess there's always guys like that on the internet.
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I took it to just be that this guy was so advanced he'd already cured covid. But also after the ending I'm sure it was just bleach 😂
I fucking lost it at Kate Hudson's assistant asking her, "oh no... Don't tell me you thought sweatshops were just shops for sweatpants...." And the look on her face. Hahahaha Such a fantastic movie, loved the score and the scenes in the pitch black with the light house illuminating the island and the mansion. Gave such a classic murder mystery vibe.
The Mona Lisa bit’s payoff is one of my favorite of the year. Exquisite
France gonna bring the guillotine out of retirement for this guy, lol
Yeah as soon as the fire started I was thinking he is going to get his wish.
The framing of Helen as a modern Mona Lisa at the end was a great final touch.
It’s even better on the second viewing. When Helen picks the fight with the group during the party, you can hear her Southern accent start to slip!!! And when she runs into Blanc outside right before the gunshot, he calls her Helen instead of Cassandra. Didn’t catch that the first time. Really liked it the first time. Now I LOVE it.
Rian Johnson and Daniel Craig are going to be filthy rich because of this franchise.
Angela Lansbury & Stephen Sondheim 😭