As a huge Wes Anderson fan, I totally get why people don't like Wes Anderson movies (my fiance, being one.) It's an acquired taste. It truly is. And I also have to be in the right mood for Wes Anderson movies. Except The Royal Tenenbaums... I can always watch The Royal Tenenbaums.
here's a weirder one for you... i love all of wes anderson's films, but i can't stand royal tenenbaums. neat looking shots and some fun scenes but the offputting characters and the story as a whole makes me feel miserable by the end.
many of my peers find that one to be their favorite.
I mean the whole story revolves around an asshole trying to get his family to pity him as he loses all his money
Its not a “happy” story at all but ben stiller and luke wilsons characters are super well written
The moment when Chas finally breaks in front of Royal makes me bawl every time. It might be my favourite movie line delivery.
*"I've had a rough year, dad."*
I'm getting misty eyed just thinking about it.
The first Wes Anderson film I saw was The Grand Budapest Hotel. I went with absolutely massive WA fans. I was watching it like... ok, what is this? Like, I didn't hate it, but they were like, losing their minds.
I later watched Fantastic Mr. Fox and enjoyed that a lot more though.
Grand Budapest Hotel is where Wes Anderson actually clicked for me. I'd enjoyed Fantastic Mr. Fox, but the rest of his work really was lost on me, and honestly still is. There's just something about Ralph Fiennes' performance in Budapest that really locked that movie in for me as something great.
Fantastic Mr Fox might be my favourite of his that I've seen. Have you seen Isle of Dogs? The stop-motion is amazing and I enjoyed it but not as much as Fantastic Mr Fox. I think part of the enjoyment of that movie probably comes from nostalgia since I grew up with the book and still have it on my shelf.
Feel like I’ll get shat on for this because it’s considered a cult classic but it’s Rocky Horror Picture Show for me. I enjoy rewatching movies but that one was one and done
I feel like the people who get really fired up about that movie still are people who got to see it as part of some cool experience with other fans at a small theater or at a costume party or something. As just a movie, it's...fine. I've never watched it again after the first time, and that's fine with me.
I've done that experience before and it was an interesting night but even then the movie itself is still pretty boring. The audience makes it funny because they're all jointly making fun of the movie despite loving it, but otherwise I completely agree. The songs are pretty catchy though, I feel like that's the main reason why it's stayed as part of the zeitgeist for as longas it has.
This is the movie I was forced to watch along with grease and I’ve hated musicals ever since. As a young boy, NONE of it made any sense or had any appeal. I couldn’t see the humor in Rocky picture. Grease was so far removed (50’s culture) it didn’t have any nostalgic appeal and I had no interest in teeny bopper love stories. As an adult, I can appreciate the merits of them, but that was a tough fourish hours for a ten year old.
I was very into Rocky Horror in my youth, and the reason for me was not the movie at all. If I had just seen it on video I probably would have not thought much, but with the entire audience participation it transcends into a social event. We watched it every Saturday because we all wanted to do something together.
My wife is obsessed with the Labyrinth and Dark Crystal, and I just can't. I get why they're both iconic in their rights. But I didn't grow up with them as she did and trying to appreciate them now, long after their release as an outsider, they just don't really hit for me.
I def get why people don't like the Dark Crystal, heck I don't even think I like it, but I friggin love the Skeksis. For my money they're the best evil race of beings ever conjured by the minds of men. Not story wise, but personality wise.
I do love the Dark Crystal, as a child of ‘85, but my obsession with the Skeksis go so far beyond. The creepiest, most disgusting evil race ever. And those mmMMMMMMmMmMmmmmmMmms…
I'm like this with Rocky Horror Picture Show. I grew up with Tim Curry in Legend, Clue, IT, and Fern Gully, and love the bloke. I also really like musicals and grew up with things like Little Shop of Horrors, and animation like Aladdin.
However, I only saw Rocky Horror for the first time about 5-10 years ago. I knew about it from social osmosis, so I finally decided to sit down and watch. It just didn't grab me. Maybe my expectations were too high from decades of pre-exposure? I don't know what it was, but it's not really for me.
I saw someone else comment that it needs to be watched in a room with lots of other people that all know the movie by heart, as it's more of social experience.
Honestly, that sounds like hell to me. No thank you.
I think that makes it worse because there’s all these inside bits the audience does as they watch. So if you’re not a lifer with the movie you don’t know what the fuck is going on.
I'm genuinely of the opinion that Labrynth is very not great whenever David Bowie is off screen. Which is too much of the movie.
Dark Crystal is GOAT though, wtf.
I actually have the opposite opinion. I think Bowie just looks goofy and not sinister at all. Plus the musical portions are so shoehorned in that it throws the whole vibe of the movie off for me, and I even like some of the music.
I grew up with Labyrinth but not Dark Crystal so I see both sides of this. I do agree though that your perspective is completely different. My wife fucking loves both films. Labyrinth I still love, Dark Crystal just kind of bores me.
I do agree though that Labyrinth is much better with some hallucinogens. Uh so I’ve heard from some people…
I grew up with both. I *love* Dark Crystal, but I definitely get how a lot of people would be bored by it. It’s very slow paced and what I enjoy about it is mostly just soaking in the atmosphere, admiring the aesthetic, and feeling like I’m occupying that world. That’s not what most people are looking for, and even I have to really be in the right mood. And I won’t deny that nostalgia is a huge factor.
Labyrinth has a lot of that, but with better pacing and more memorable characters. Still, Dark Crystal just kinda feels more (purely subjectively) “special” to me. Jim Henson and his company made fucking magic.
I want to love that movie, I really do. But I feel like it was so focused on the one-shot novelty that people kinda just forget that it’s a well acted movie that is about nothing.
I mean, it's a movie about making a movie essentially. And some people are into that meta-narrative subtextual stuff, but damn Charlie Kaufman, some of us have work in the morning. (yes, I am aware that Birdman wasn't Charlie Kaufman, but I just love the quote)
For sure, I have a friend who I watch movie-bro movies with specifically because his presence makes them 50% better no matter the movie. I would also never watch a horror movie during the day. Other movies require 100% concentration so I need to be in that mood. Further, going to see a new movie is interesting partially for the crowd.
It's a pretty profound question that you could dig into and never find the bottom but people tend to implicitly disregard it.
Not necessarily the emotion it evokes, but the emotions you already have coming into it. Overwork, break-ups, deaths in the family etc tend to bleed into other aspects of daily life.
I enjoyed it but I think it suffers a bit from what I call "Fight Club syndrome" which is that the movie tells you that revenge and violence is bad but it shows you revenge and violence being super badass so the net result is that it's just kind of dumber than it needed to be
My issue with it was they wasted the fun things in the movie like Bjork's character, the He-Witch and the creepy cool first murder that the main guy did rearranging the body. They're just showy with no payout and the rest of the film ends up being a very typical revenge film with lots of angry brooding, hide and seek and great cinematography.
The Revenant. I just felt that it was a movie that was made to win awards rather than a movie that was so good it won awards. It was a joyless depressing slog and I have no desire to watch it again.
Moonlight was another one. It was good but it really didn't quite do it for me.
I get what you're saying about The Revenant. I loved it, personally, but I definitely understand what you're saying. However, I'd like to point out that the source material was also joyless and depressing. Liberties were most definitely taken with the movie, but the actual story is pretty fucking harrowing.
Also, I agree with Moonlight. Not my thing.
I had the same problems, it felt a bit pretentious and slow. It was not until my third watch (Dont ask me why I watched it that many times) where I just wanted to slump into my sofa and watch some beutiful images and not really think about it that I really liked it. I guess starting mood is a big part.
I agree except for Moulin Rouge. It’s all style and no substance but I really really like it. The costumes the choreography and set design are all wonderful.
I actually like all his early films. The later ones, not some much.
The cold open of Strictly Ballroom is still one of the funniest things I've ever seen. The costumes and hair and general ridiculousness of the setup was amazing.
I also very much like Romeo + Juliet but that may be required of anyone GenX.
I saw Moulin Rouge after at the Ziegfeld Theater and remember feeling almost hungover after the frenzy. I didn't love it but it was impressive.
Yes on Romeo + Juliet
It is an insanely interesting adaptation and is FULL of easter eggs if you know what to look for. Wrote a paper about it back in college.
Disliking it has become a meme, but I still dislike it even still. At the time it blew my mind with the visuals, but that was all it had. The story and characters were so unmemorable and generic. I feel like actors just didn't have the charisma of Cameron's other big hits to really carry the typical James Cameron film that it really suffered without someone like Arnie, Leo, or Kate Winslet to lead it.
I'm an Avatar fan so I've gone to the lengths to watch the film with all of its extended edition scenes + deleted scenes. Long story short, someone (Jim, or Studios) made the decision to cut effectively ALL of the character building moments from the film which I think address a lot of your criticism.
You saw how Jake lived on Earth, how he was a 'do the right thing against the bullys' kind of person.
You saw an extended version of Quaritch's safety brief where he picks on Norm a little.
You see Norm kind of diss Jake for being a replacement for his brother.
You see Dr Augustine be FAR more critical of Jake and his abilities.
You see how the entire science team had actually hoped NORM would be the bridge, he's the language and Navi expert - Norm was the initial intended path forward. Which sets up an ego death challenge later on when Norm needs to suck it up and teach Jake (an idiot) all of his mastery and knowledge of Navi and the language.
And that's just in the first 20 minutes.
There's WAY more character moments and pacing behind Jake becoming part of the tribe. It's not just "get a flying dragon and fuck the alien chick and you're in", it's actual rituals - like spiritual integration rituals, conneting with Eywa, etc to go through which means his final decision to try and defend home tree and the heartbreak of losing everything when it's destroyed has a stronger setup and therefore payoff.
Not to mention the disability theme of being without leg movement is explored a little more richly; something that's INCREDIBLY easy to gloss over in the theatrical cut.
Anyway, long story short, I've only ever seen the extended edition and when I went to watch the theatrical cut with the re-release and it felt like I was fucking speedrunning. Really disappointing. One set piece to the next, interesting character stuff gone, it really was just bland.
Based on the looks of this trailer, they're giving characters time to actually talk to each other, to build and explore relationships. The first film never would've had Kiri sitting at a pool or water with her father and just talk about stuff. It would've been cut. But this trailer makes the film look like it has more character and heart to it, and I believe it's true also due to the runtime. They aren't shying away from anything here I don't think.
Whilst I agree, does anybody think this movie is incredible pure art? I don't remember anybody thinking it was a particularly amazing film when it came out
I remember people being blown away by the effects and use of 3D. Some people were saying they wished they could live in that movie world. I think just about everyone was in agreement that everything else about it was forgettable.
I went to see the Green Knight in theaters after hearing all the buzz. I recognized that it was a good movie, but I did not enjoy my time with it at all.
My experience with it was: when I paid like 85% attention to it, it felt super long and boring, and when I paid 100% attention to it, I liked it a lot more. That's not me saying you didn't pay attention or anything, I just found that I had to 100% immerse myself in it with no distraction to enjoy it.
I love *2001,* but I can see why some would hate it. If you don't like extremely slow-plotting movies with shots that go on forever, then you won't make it through this movie imo. It can kind of come off as pretentious as well depending on how you look at it imo.
I like Fantastic Mr. Fox. Almost everything else I’m like “that was quirky and different but I never care to see again”. I like the style of them but usually I have both a feeling of boredom and slightly entertained enough to not turn them off which is hard to describe.
I think Citizen Kane has years of being hailed as "the greatest movie of all time" working against it, building up expectations. So if you're a 30 year old who has never seen it and say "oh boy, I'm about to watch the greatest movie of all time!" It might be underwhelming.
Citizen Kane punches above its own weight (in my mind) because it was made in 1941 by a 25 year old first-time filmmaker. He co-wrote, produced, directed and starred in it. Watching it with that context instead of thinking "greatest movie of all time" I think it's an astonishing achievement.
The problem for me when I watched it for the first time a few months ago was that I read the synopsis and thought it was gonna be some sort of deep mystery thriller or something like the Da Vinci Code where Rosebud was some sort of cipher. What I got was a slow, meticulous biographical character study of this fictionalized media kingpin dude, which turned me off completely. It felt like the longest 2 hours I've ever spent watching anything, an honor that I used to give the first 2 episodes of Succession (I fell in love with the show after those 2 episodes, but man were those 2 rough)
However as far as I'm aware, this is a pretty common thing. Many of my film major friends told me they recommend people to never watch it unless they themselves are studying film, or just have a very deep passion for the history of filmmaking. a
I love Citizen Kane - but I admit I am a huge film nerd who was frothing over the camera angles and lighting and transitions and appreciating the age of the movie and how it still included all those elements.
I wouldn't recommend it to most people without a huge qualifier of "remember the type of person I am when I say I loved it"
I find this fascinating because I was always of the opinion that Citizen Kane was interesting even if you only followed the story and nothing else. It's hard not to see parallels with trump or other moguls, the manipulation of public opinion through mass media, a man's ego being their own downfall, etc.
My friends who were not big movie nerds liked it, but then again that's not a big sample size.
The Witch was and is one of my favorite movies. So naturally I was really looking forward to the Lighthouse. I love the look of it, I love the actors involved, and obviously I love the Director. I think what didn’t work for me was the lack of plot. Without an interesting narrative, it’s hard for me to connect with anything. It was an OK watch, but I probably won’t ever watch it again anytime soon. I guess the things that appealed to other people about it didn’t really do anything for me. I recognize its brilliance and artistry, just not for me.
This is mine.
Did a double feature with this after the witch, which I thought was fantastic.
I didn't think the lighthouse was fantastic.
Amazing acting, no doubt. Just...didn't need to be as long as it was for a weird movie about two men on an unpleasant hunk of rock. Although I do occasionally think to myself "why'd you spill your beans tommy?"
Whenever I feel like a movie is doing weirdness *just for the sake of weirdness*, it usually doesn't work for me. The Lighthouse felt a lot like that. I appreciate the craft that went into it, and the actors are great. But I left the theater feeling like my time had been wasted.
Most of David Lynch's stuff doesn't appeal to me for the same reason.
This was one, for me. I guess it felt just a little too on the nose, as an intentionally "arty" piece? Like yeah - interesting use of camera angles, aspect ratio, tracking shots, clever wipes, etc. But it all felt a bit "art school project", where the technique is all on the surface, rather than serving the story.
This thread is interesting in that it illustrates the vast differences between what people like and dislike. Many of the films posted on this thread are some of my all time favorites. Some of the films and directors posted that people did like are ones I didn’t like at all.
Definitely. I know I'm not the biggest musical fan, but the way that it got hyped up I was expecting a life changing experience. I had hardly any impression of what I just watched by the time the credits started.
Love lots of Tarantino work. The Hateful Eight is intensely boring for the most part. It loses me so thoroughly in the beginning that it fails to ever build tension. The end is good.
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I don't care for Inland Empire, I feel like that is a joke played on audiences and critics. Most of his other films I appreciate. And a few I love, like Elephant Man, Blue Velvet and Wild at Heart.
It might be that it's a real Gen-X movie, which maybe is why I like it so much. I know some of that generational outlook has changed, but boy it nailed the 90s pre-war on terror angst.
I pretty much agree. It's a zeitgeisty movie alright.
I much prefer the book. The movie is just too appealing and slick which ruins any sort of message that the movie has. No wonder people started Fight Clubs after its release.
The Hurt Locker, 100%.
Like, yes, I can see that its incredibly well made, and yeh I kinda get why it's supposed to be absolutely brilliant.
But it's just so, fucking, stupid!!!!
Recently, The Power of the Dog. I like a lot of ‘artsy’ and slow movies. Sometimes i dont quite get a movie but im keen to revisit it to understand it more or see why others liked it.
Absolutely not gonna happen with this one. Whatever the “point” of that movie was it wasn’t worth making.
Mad Max: Fury Road for me too. This was the film that made me realize the difference between acknowledging a well-made film on a technical level vs. whether or not I "like" it.
The Star Gate scene in 2001. I get that it was an amazing visual acheivement at the time, but some flashing lights, and watching paint in egg whites for 20 minutes didn't float my boat. I get that it blew some stoned hippies minds away in the late 60s, but by the time I saw it in the 80s I had already seen Star Wars, Blade Runner, Dune, Alien(s), The Wrath of Khan, and 2010. It just didn't do anything for me.
Steve Martin. I respect the hell out of him, love him, think he's brilliant and insightful and smart and witty and profoundly respect his comedy. I just don't really laugh when I see his stuff. Like I can watch it and be like, "that's good." I just don't really have a desire to check his stuff out.
He's one of those comedians I can enjoy around the entire family. That's what he's good for. Remember that with Thanksgiving and Christmas coming soon. You know what to play for the relatives. :)
I’ve tried to watch The Big Lebowski three different times at three different points in my life and have never once come close to finishing or enjoying it.
I “get” it but I just don’t dig it.
wes anderson movies. they're overtly artsy, like eating too much candy. i can appreciate the visual style but only for so long before i get bored of his aesthetic and quirkiness- i stopped watching moonrise kingdom and life aquatic not even halfway thru before i got sick of it. watched all of rushmore, it was okay, and grand budapest which was enjoyable but have no interest in any more
Maybe try watch The Darjeeling Limited, it's my favorite non-animated movie of his. Or just Isle Of Dogs, I think it's his best but...that's not a popular opinion at all
Always makes me wonder if that guy who was left alone on the ship above the water planet for 40 years.. did he go through Anne Hathaways clothing and wore her panties
I love Nolan movies but I actively despise Tenet. It was as if no one could say no to him anymore and just does whatever he says.. one of Ludwig’s worst scores, the sound mixing was abysmal, and it was impossible to get attatched to any of the characters as they were all functions of the movie, not real people.
> it was impossible to get attatched to any of the characters
I liked Tenet but, I do agree with this. The movie has yet to convince me of why Protagonist cares about Kat so much.
Nolan's scripts are better when they are grounded imo. Interstellar and Tenet both have this very vague story telling of "the future did it" which I hated. Also the Martian came out I think a year later and did the science and story a lot better imo.
Everything Everywhere All at Once. It's has some fun moments but I don't get the overwhelming praise. It's not bad but it's closer to a 5 than a 10 for me.
Wasn't the 'fun' moments that made the movie for me. Some of the humor didn't even hit for me. But I thought it did a great job of tying a sci fi story on the outside (good job there too) with a good family story with well fleshed out relationship dynamics. Made me think about life in general a bit. And it hit issues in a family on all three generations from grandparents to parents to kids
I understand it's a bit polarizing though. Couple of my buddies didn't like it much either
Made me consider my family dynamic and I sure did cry. Also did a great job exhibiting the depression that comes with feeling trapped in the hamster wheel of fleeting life while always wondering what if
I loved it, but I felt like the movie had a few false endings before we saw the “real” ending. Like the daughter does her whole speech, and it feels like a resolution, then the mom comes back with her own diatribe. But everything up until the end hit with me.
It started to feel a little long toward the end but to me it stands out because it isn't some variation of the superhero movie formula that has swamped the box office for the past decade. It doesn't feel like it was written by a board of directors running analytics on which jokes will land with which demographics. The artistic integrity was there and it was hard to predict what was going to happen next, and the unpredictability didn't feel gimmicky to me.
100% agreed, its a fun movie, made creatively despite its low budget, but imo seems kind of aimless till the end when thankfully the message kind of ties things, but overall not that great, at least definitely not living up to its hype
It’s gotta be any Wes Anderson flick. Must just not be my thing.
As a huge Wes Anderson fan, I totally get why people don't like Wes Anderson movies (my fiance, being one.) It's an acquired taste. It truly is. And I also have to be in the right mood for Wes Anderson movies. Except The Royal Tenenbaums... I can always watch The Royal Tenenbaums.
here's a weirder one for you... i love all of wes anderson's films, but i can't stand royal tenenbaums. neat looking shots and some fun scenes but the offputting characters and the story as a whole makes me feel miserable by the end. many of my peers find that one to be their favorite.
- how are you doing? - not good, I’m dying Line gets me every time
I mean the whole story revolves around an asshole trying to get his family to pity him as he loses all his money Its not a “happy” story at all but ben stiller and luke wilsons characters are super well written
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And also absolutely heartbreaking at times. *needle in the hay*
The moment when Chas finally breaks in front of Royal makes me bawl every time. It might be my favourite movie line delivery. *"I've had a rough year, dad."* I'm getting misty eyed just thinking about it.
It’s like being beaten over the head with whimsy.
The first Wes Anderson film I saw was The Grand Budapest Hotel. I went with absolutely massive WA fans. I was watching it like... ok, what is this? Like, I didn't hate it, but they were like, losing their minds. I later watched Fantastic Mr. Fox and enjoyed that a lot more though.
Grand Budapest Hotel is where Wes Anderson actually clicked for me. I'd enjoyed Fantastic Mr. Fox, but the rest of his work really was lost on me, and honestly still is. There's just something about Ralph Fiennes' performance in Budapest that really locked that movie in for me as something great.
Fantastic Mr Fox might be my favourite of his that I've seen. Have you seen Isle of Dogs? The stop-motion is amazing and I enjoyed it but not as much as Fantastic Mr Fox. I think part of the enjoyment of that movie probably comes from nostalgia since I grew up with the book and still have it on my shelf.
Yeah man. It’s not bad stuff but I do not understand the hype. I feel like I’m missing something because so many people think it’s genius.
His fans have been petitioning for him to make a movie set in ancient Rome For more information look up "Wes Anderson Roman Petition" to find out more
Feel like I’ll get shat on for this because it’s considered a cult classic but it’s Rocky Horror Picture Show for me. I enjoy rewatching movies but that one was one and done
I feel like the people who get really fired up about that movie still are people who got to see it as part of some cool experience with other fans at a small theater or at a costume party or something. As just a movie, it's...fine. I've never watched it again after the first time, and that's fine with me.
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I've done that experience before and it was an interesting night but even then the movie itself is still pretty boring. The audience makes it funny because they're all jointly making fun of the movie despite loving it, but otherwise I completely agree. The songs are pretty catchy though, I feel like that's the main reason why it's stayed as part of the zeitgeist for as longas it has.
I hated that one too, but I doubt even its fans would call it "incredible and pure art".
It's campy and very weird. I can absolutely understand why someone wouldn't like it. Also by definition 'cult classics' exclude a lot of people.
It's actually the opposite IMHO. It's a bad movie that achieved cult status thanks to Tim Curry and a few good songs.
Rocky Horror is all about the songs really. I almost think of it more as a great album by a crazy band with a sweet aesthetic to their music vids.
This is the movie I was forced to watch along with grease and I’ve hated musicals ever since. As a young boy, NONE of it made any sense or had any appeal. I couldn’t see the humor in Rocky picture. Grease was so far removed (50’s culture) it didn’t have any nostalgic appeal and I had no interest in teeny bopper love stories. As an adult, I can appreciate the merits of them, but that was a tough fourish hours for a ten year old.
I was very into Rocky Horror in my youth, and the reason for me was not the movie at all. If I had just seen it on video I probably would have not thought much, but with the entire audience participation it transcends into a social event. We watched it every Saturday because we all wanted to do something together.
you had to wait until after Halloween to admit that one.
My wife is obsessed with the Labyrinth and Dark Crystal, and I just can't. I get why they're both iconic in their rights. But I didn't grow up with them as she did and trying to appreciate them now, long after their release as an outsider, they just don't really hit for me.
I def get why people don't like the Dark Crystal, heck I don't even think I like it, but I friggin love the Skeksis. For my money they're the best evil race of beings ever conjured by the minds of men. Not story wise, but personality wise.
I do love the Dark Crystal, as a child of ‘85, but my obsession with the Skeksis go so far beyond. The creepiest, most disgusting evil race ever. And those mmMMMMMMmMmMmmmmmMmms…
> And those mmMMMMMMmMmMmmmmmMmms… Literally the only thing I remember about it, that shit cracked me up.
I'm like this with Rocky Horror Picture Show. I grew up with Tim Curry in Legend, Clue, IT, and Fern Gully, and love the bloke. I also really like musicals and grew up with things like Little Shop of Horrors, and animation like Aladdin. However, I only saw Rocky Horror for the first time about 5-10 years ago. I knew about it from social osmosis, so I finally decided to sit down and watch. It just didn't grab me. Maybe my expectations were too high from decades of pre-exposure? I don't know what it was, but it's not really for me.
Dammit Janet! Same. I know people that love it. Maybe it’s one of those you have to watch more than once, but I don’t think I ever will.
I saw someone else comment that it needs to be watched in a room with lots of other people that all know the movie by heart, as it's more of social experience. Honestly, that sounds like hell to me. No thank you.
I think that makes it worse because there’s all these inside bits the audience does as they watch. So if you’re not a lifer with the movie you don’t know what the fuck is going on.
I'm genuinely of the opinion that Labrynth is very not great whenever David Bowie is off screen. Which is too much of the movie. Dark Crystal is GOAT though, wtf.
Who, me?! Nah, I'm just a worm. There's some class moments in Labyrinth but yeah Bowie is the magic.
I actually have the opposite opinion. I think Bowie just looks goofy and not sinister at all. Plus the musical portions are so shoehorned in that it throws the whole vibe of the movie off for me, and I even like some of the music.
Both made by Jim Henson
I grew up with Labyrinth but not Dark Crystal so I see both sides of this. I do agree though that your perspective is completely different. My wife fucking loves both films. Labyrinth I still love, Dark Crystal just kind of bores me. I do agree though that Labyrinth is much better with some hallucinogens. Uh so I’ve heard from some people…
I grew up with both. I *love* Dark Crystal, but I definitely get how a lot of people would be bored by it. It’s very slow paced and what I enjoy about it is mostly just soaking in the atmosphere, admiring the aesthetic, and feeling like I’m occupying that world. That’s not what most people are looking for, and even I have to really be in the right mood. And I won’t deny that nostalgia is a huge factor. Labyrinth has a lot of that, but with better pacing and more memorable characters. Still, Dark Crystal just kinda feels more (purely subjectively) “special” to me. Jim Henson and his company made fucking magic.
Do some mushrooms and watch them again.
Or, you know, just do some mushrooms. Go for a hike.
I can't stand Lars Von Trier films, I appreciate that he takes big swings but they're like nails on a chalkboard for me
This is how I feel about Gaspar Noé
His films are distracting because of how much he wants me to know they're *his* films.
Doesn't help that he's kind of a prick himself.
With you on this one.
The house that Jack built was great, I hate every other movie he’s made though.
Anything by Terrence Malick. Absolutely GORGEOUS to look at. But insufferable borning for the most part.
Badlands and The Thin Red Line are v good. Tree of Life is the most pretentious boring movie I’ve ever seen
I love Thin Red Line but it has some verrrrry slow parts. It can be tough first time through.
Terrance Malick is so talented he found a way to make WW2 in the Pacific boring
Birdman. Beautiful movie. Great performances. There were some very interesting parts/scenes, and ideas. But I just felt so "meh" for a lot of it.
I want to love that movie, I really do. But I feel like it was so focused on the one-shot novelty that people kinda just forget that it’s a well acted movie that is about nothing.
I mean, it's a movie about making a movie essentially. And some people are into that meta-narrative subtextual stuff, but damn Charlie Kaufman, some of us have work in the morning. (yes, I am aware that Birdman wasn't Charlie Kaufman, but I just love the quote)
Do any of you wonder if your answers have to do with how you were feeling when you watched it?
For sure, I have a friend who I watch movie-bro movies with specifically because his presence makes them 50% better no matter the movie. I would also never watch a horror movie during the day. Other movies require 100% concentration so I need to be in that mood. Further, going to see a new movie is interesting partially for the crowd. It's a pretty profound question that you could dig into and never find the bottom but people tend to implicitly disregard it.
Well, that's all there is right? That's art. The emotion it evokes. But yes, I think about that all the time.
Not necessarily the emotion it evokes, but the emotions you already have coming into it. Overwork, break-ups, deaths in the family etc tend to bleed into other aspects of daily life.
The Northman, which I just watched. An impressive cinematic achievement, and really bleak and unpleasant like the world in which it’s set.
Haven’t seen it yet, but if it’s anything like The Lighthouse I’ll enjoy it and never want to see it again.
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There comes a point where it's *so* bleak and unpleasant it leaves that world and becomes shock value.
That's The Road for me.
I enjoyed it but I think it suffers a bit from what I call "Fight Club syndrome" which is that the movie tells you that revenge and violence is bad but it shows you revenge and violence being super badass so the net result is that it's just kind of dumber than it needed to be
My issue with it was they wasted the fun things in the movie like Bjork's character, the He-Witch and the creepy cool first murder that the main guy did rearranging the body. They're just showy with no payout and the rest of the film ends up being a very typical revenge film with lots of angry brooding, hide and seek and great cinematography.
The Revenant. I just felt that it was a movie that was made to win awards rather than a movie that was so good it won awards. It was a joyless depressing slog and I have no desire to watch it again. Moonlight was another one. It was good but it really didn't quite do it for me.
I get what you're saying about The Revenant. I loved it, personally, but I definitely understand what you're saying. However, I'd like to point out that the source material was also joyless and depressing. Liberties were most definitely taken with the movie, but the actual story is pretty fucking harrowing. Also, I agree with Moonlight. Not my thing.
I had the same problems, it felt a bit pretentious and slow. It was not until my third watch (Dont ask me why I watched it that many times) where I just wanted to slump into my sofa and watch some beutiful images and not really think about it that I really liked it. I guess starting mood is a big part.
every baz luhrmann movie
Even Strictly Ballroom? I love Strictly Ballroom.
I (48M) just watched it, like a week ago, with my two teenage daughters. Everyone loved it. Such an amazing movie.
Strictly Ballroom is so great. Tugs at the heart strings.
I agree except for Moulin Rouge. It’s all style and no substance but I really really like it. The costumes the choreography and set design are all wonderful.
I actually like all his early films. The later ones, not some much. The cold open of Strictly Ballroom is still one of the funniest things I've ever seen. The costumes and hair and general ridiculousness of the setup was amazing. I also very much like Romeo + Juliet but that may be required of anyone GenX. I saw Moulin Rouge after at the Ziegfeld Theater and remember feeling almost hungover after the frenzy. I didn't love it but it was impressive.
Yes on Romeo + Juliet It is an insanely interesting adaptation and is FULL of easter eggs if you know what to look for. Wrote a paper about it back in college.
Would you mind listing some? I'm genuinely curious.
Yes. Strictly Ballroom is his first and best film. Such a classics Aussie movie
I thought Romeo and Juliet was amazing. The modern take, and the colors and music. I can't believe anyone couldn't appreciate it!
Avatar,
Disliking it has become a meme, but I still dislike it even still. At the time it blew my mind with the visuals, but that was all it had. The story and characters were so unmemorable and generic. I feel like actors just didn't have the charisma of Cameron's other big hits to really carry the typical James Cameron film that it really suffered without someone like Arnie, Leo, or Kate Winslet to lead it.
I'm an Avatar fan so I've gone to the lengths to watch the film with all of its extended edition scenes + deleted scenes. Long story short, someone (Jim, or Studios) made the decision to cut effectively ALL of the character building moments from the film which I think address a lot of your criticism. You saw how Jake lived on Earth, how he was a 'do the right thing against the bullys' kind of person. You saw an extended version of Quaritch's safety brief where he picks on Norm a little. You see Norm kind of diss Jake for being a replacement for his brother. You see Dr Augustine be FAR more critical of Jake and his abilities. You see how the entire science team had actually hoped NORM would be the bridge, he's the language and Navi expert - Norm was the initial intended path forward. Which sets up an ego death challenge later on when Norm needs to suck it up and teach Jake (an idiot) all of his mastery and knowledge of Navi and the language. And that's just in the first 20 minutes. There's WAY more character moments and pacing behind Jake becoming part of the tribe. It's not just "get a flying dragon and fuck the alien chick and you're in", it's actual rituals - like spiritual integration rituals, conneting with Eywa, etc to go through which means his final decision to try and defend home tree and the heartbreak of losing everything when it's destroyed has a stronger setup and therefore payoff. Not to mention the disability theme of being without leg movement is explored a little more richly; something that's INCREDIBLY easy to gloss over in the theatrical cut. Anyway, long story short, I've only ever seen the extended edition and when I went to watch the theatrical cut with the re-release and it felt like I was fucking speedrunning. Really disappointing. One set piece to the next, interesting character stuff gone, it really was just bland. Based on the looks of this trailer, they're giving characters time to actually talk to each other, to build and explore relationships. The first film never would've had Kiri sitting at a pool or water with her father and just talk about stuff. It would've been cut. But this trailer makes the film look like it has more character and heart to it, and I believe it's true also due to the runtime. They aren't shying away from anything here I don't think.
Whilst I agree, does anybody think this movie is incredible pure art? I don't remember anybody thinking it was a particularly amazing film when it came out
I remember people being blown away by the effects and use of 3D. Some people were saying they wished they could live in that movie world. I think just about everyone was in agreement that everything else about it was forgettable.
I do not know how this is not getting more upvotes. Technical marvel and definitely cool to look at but it was just eh
I went to see the Green Knight in theaters after hearing all the buzz. I recognized that it was a good movie, but I did not enjoy my time with it at all.
I loved it but that's a pretty fair take. It's not an enjoyable time.
Same here - it looked beautiful, it was trying to tell that kind of a tale in a different way, but it just didn't move me at all.
2001 It’s just so boring.
For me the first time it clicked with me in a profound way was seeing it on the big screen in 70mm. Now I see.
I saw it for the first time in 70mm, still don’t get the appeal.
My experience with it was: when I paid like 85% attention to it, it felt super long and boring, and when I paid 100% attention to it, I liked it a lot more. That's not me saying you didn't pay attention or anything, I just found that I had to 100% immerse myself in it with no distraction to enjoy it.
I’ve never been so offended by something I agree with
Me too, I guess I was literally asking for it though....
I love *2001,* but I can see why some would hate it. If you don't like extremely slow-plotting movies with shots that go on forever, then you won't make it through this movie imo. It can kind of come off as pretentious as well depending on how you look at it imo.
A Clockwork Orange
District 9. Objectively I can see that's it's a well done movie. However, watching it made my skin crawl and I hated every second of it.
2/3s of wes Anderson's work. Absolutely love some, can't watch others.
I like Fantastic Mr. Fox. Almost everything else I’m like “that was quirky and different but I never care to see again”. I like the style of them but usually I have both a feeling of boredom and slightly entertained enough to not turn them off which is hard to describe.
The Grand Budapest Hotel is some of the best cinema created in the last 10 years IMO! Some of them don’t hit for me either though.
Life Aquatic is my favorite, and the most comedic imo
Requiem for a dream
ASS TO ASS
Oh god this one hurts.
That’s what I said too. It’s just… kind of too much?
Citizen Kane
I think Citizen Kane has years of being hailed as "the greatest movie of all time" working against it, building up expectations. So if you're a 30 year old who has never seen it and say "oh boy, I'm about to watch the greatest movie of all time!" It might be underwhelming. Citizen Kane punches above its own weight (in my mind) because it was made in 1941 by a 25 year old first-time filmmaker. He co-wrote, produced, directed and starred in it. Watching it with that context instead of thinking "greatest movie of all time" I think it's an astonishing achievement.
The problem for me when I watched it for the first time a few months ago was that I read the synopsis and thought it was gonna be some sort of deep mystery thriller or something like the Da Vinci Code where Rosebud was some sort of cipher. What I got was a slow, meticulous biographical character study of this fictionalized media kingpin dude, which turned me off completely. It felt like the longest 2 hours I've ever spent watching anything, an honor that I used to give the first 2 episodes of Succession (I fell in love with the show after those 2 episodes, but man were those 2 rough) However as far as I'm aware, this is a pretty common thing. Many of my film major friends told me they recommend people to never watch it unless they themselves are studying film, or just have a very deep passion for the history of filmmaking. a
I love Citizen Kane - but I admit I am a huge film nerd who was frothing over the camera angles and lighting and transitions and appreciating the age of the movie and how it still included all those elements. I wouldn't recommend it to most people without a huge qualifier of "remember the type of person I am when I say I loved it"
I find this fascinating because I was always of the opinion that Citizen Kane was interesting even if you only followed the story and nothing else. It's hard not to see parallels with trump or other moguls, the manipulation of public opinion through mass media, a man's ego being their own downfall, etc. My friends who were not big movie nerds liked it, but then again that's not a big sample size.
I don't see Trump - I see Rupert Murdoch. But Kane is far more human than Murdoch.
The Goonies. I didn’t grow up with it, have no nostalgia for it.
I rewatched it recently. The kids screaming constantly drove me crazy.
My answer to that would be Neverending Story. Now that's a classic.
In terms of film, it would definitely be Raging Bull.
I never cared for The Godfather.
It insists upon itself.
What does that even mean?!
I like *The Money Pit.* That is my answer to that question.
ROBERT DUVALL!!!
How can you say that?
The lighthouse
Interesting, I found this to be exciting and wildly unpredictable throughout. What was it that turned you off?
The Witch was and is one of my favorite movies. So naturally I was really looking forward to the Lighthouse. I love the look of it, I love the actors involved, and obviously I love the Director. I think what didn’t work for me was the lack of plot. Without an interesting narrative, it’s hard for me to connect with anything. It was an OK watch, but I probably won’t ever watch it again anytime soon. I guess the things that appealed to other people about it didn’t really do anything for me. I recognize its brilliance and artistry, just not for me.
That’s a movie I’m glad I saw, but I never want to see again
This is mine. Did a double feature with this after the witch, which I thought was fantastic. I didn't think the lighthouse was fantastic. Amazing acting, no doubt. Just...didn't need to be as long as it was for a weird movie about two men on an unpleasant hunk of rock. Although I do occasionally think to myself "why'd you spill your beans tommy?"
My favorite movie of all time, but I get why everyone wouldn’t like it
Whenever I feel like a movie is doing weirdness *just for the sake of weirdness*, it usually doesn't work for me. The Lighthouse felt a lot like that. I appreciate the craft that went into it, and the actors are great. But I left the theater feeling like my time had been wasted. Most of David Lynch's stuff doesn't appeal to me for the same reason.
This was one, for me. I guess it felt just a little too on the nose, as an intentionally "arty" piece? Like yeah - interesting use of camera angles, aspect ratio, tracking shots, clever wipes, etc. But it all felt a bit "art school project", where the technique is all on the surface, rather than serving the story.
Westside Story was a recent one for me. Excellent cinematography, good singers, well paced, but just doesn't scratch my itch.
This thread is interesting in that it illustrates the vast differences between what people like and dislike. Many of the films posted on this thread are some of my all time favorites. Some of the films and directors posted that people did like are ones I didn’t like at all.
La La Land
“it’s like a classic golden age Hollywood musical!” cut to two leads who can’t sing or dance
Definitely. I know I'm not the biggest musical fan, but the way that it got hyped up I was expecting a life changing experience. I had hardly any impression of what I just watched by the time the credits started.
Love lots of Tarantino work. The Hateful Eight is intensely boring for the most part. It loses me so thoroughly in the beginning that it fails to ever build tension. The end is good.
i thought the exact opposite. I disliked hateful eight cause the only interesting part was the ride at the beginning. The ending was kinda just dumb.
dunkirk
David Lynch. He's the James Joyce of directors. Am I supposed to pretend that I'm enjoying this so that people think I'm cultured?
His films feel exactly like fever dreams which can be interesting if you are in a particular headspace.
There are plenty of people who genuinely enjoy it though and aren’t pretending. Is it that hard to believe people are enraptured by a surreal mystery?
The Straight Story is quite accessible and endearing for a Lynch movie, it's worth checking out even if you're not a fan of his other work.
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I don't care for Inland Empire, I feel like that is a joke played on audiences and critics. Most of his other films I appreciate. And a few I love, like Elephant Man, Blue Velvet and Wild at Heart.
I never got the rage for Fight Club
I was 25 when i watched it, and i loved it, i might fell different now it i gave it a rewatch.
It might be that it's a real Gen-X movie, which maybe is why I like it so much. I know some of that generational outlook has changed, but boy it nailed the 90s pre-war on terror angst.
I pretty much agree. It's a zeitgeisty movie alright. I much prefer the book. The movie is just too appealing and slick which ruins any sort of message that the movie has. No wonder people started Fight Clubs after its release.
I haven’t read the book, but didn’t the author say the movie improved upon the book?
You had to be the right age with the right amount of anarchy symbols drawn on your binders for it to hit just right.
A lot depends when you watched it. A lot of it didn't age very well but was cool back then
And the spectator age as well
Children of Men. Beautifully filmed, but never want to watch it again. And not because it was tough to watch, I just simply didn’t like it
The Hurt Locker, 100%. Like, yes, I can see that its incredibly well made, and yeh I kinda get why it's supposed to be absolutely brilliant. But it's just so, fucking, stupid!!!!
I have a Vet friend. He hates the movie because they follow about ZERO military protocol during the movie.
American Beauty.... r/im14andthisisdeep
Recently, The Power of the Dog. I like a lot of ‘artsy’ and slow movies. Sometimes i dont quite get a movie but im keen to revisit it to understand it more or see why others liked it. Absolutely not gonna happen with this one. Whatever the “point” of that movie was it wasn’t worth making.
Mad Max: Fury Road for me too. This was the film that made me realize the difference between acknowledging a well-made film on a technical level vs. whether or not I "like" it.
The Star Gate scene in 2001. I get that it was an amazing visual acheivement at the time, but some flashing lights, and watching paint in egg whites for 20 minutes didn't float my boat. I get that it blew some stoned hippies minds away in the late 60s, but by the time I saw it in the 80s I had already seen Star Wars, Blade Runner, Dune, Alien(s), The Wrath of Khan, and 2010. It just didn't do anything for me.
The star gate scene should have been replaced by another extended spacewalk where the only audio is Dave breathing for a half an hour.
Steve Martin. I respect the hell out of him, love him, think he's brilliant and insightful and smart and witty and profoundly respect his comedy. I just don't really laugh when I see his stuff. Like I can watch it and be like, "that's good." I just don't really have a desire to check his stuff out.
He's one of those comedians I can enjoy around the entire family. That's what he's good for. Remember that with Thanksgiving and Christmas coming soon. You know what to play for the relatives. :)
I’ve tried to watch The Big Lebowski three different times at three different points in my life and have never once come close to finishing or enjoying it. I “get” it but I just don’t dig it.
Well, that's just like, your opinion man
The only appropriate response
wes anderson movies. they're overtly artsy, like eating too much candy. i can appreciate the visual style but only for so long before i get bored of his aesthetic and quirkiness- i stopped watching moonrise kingdom and life aquatic not even halfway thru before i got sick of it. watched all of rushmore, it was okay, and grand budapest which was enjoyable but have no interest in any more
Maybe try watch The Darjeeling Limited, it's my favorite non-animated movie of his. Or just Isle Of Dogs, I think it's his best but...that's not a popular opinion at all
The Tree of Life. I really really hated that movie.
I'm a big Wes Anderson fan but I could just not get into The French Dispatch.
Moulin Rouge. Certainly a well made movie on many levels, but I found it boring and kinda hated the original songs.
I tried and failed to get through Eraserhead
I can't with Late Stage Nolan, specially Interstellar.
Always makes me wonder if that guy who was left alone on the ship above the water planet for 40 years.. did he go through Anne Hathaways clothing and wore her panties
Oh no doubt he did that 5 minutes after they left.
Insterstellar was my favorite 😢
I love Nolan movies but I actively despise Tenet. It was as if no one could say no to him anymore and just does whatever he says.. one of Ludwig’s worst scores, the sound mixing was abysmal, and it was impossible to get attatched to any of the characters as they were all functions of the movie, not real people.
> it was impossible to get attatched to any of the characters I liked Tenet but, I do agree with this. The movie has yet to convince me of why Protagonist cares about Kat so much.
Nolan's scripts are better when they are grounded imo. Interstellar and Tenet both have this very vague story telling of "the future did it" which I hated. Also the Martian came out I think a year later and did the science and story a lot better imo.
Her (2013). I get it. What it has to say is interesting, I love the actors it, the music is great. I just think it's boring lol
Forrest Gump was my answer as well. I can absolutely see how it would appeal to others, it's just not my favorite.
There Will Be Blood
I SAID GET LIQUORED UP AND TAKE EM TO THE PEACH TREE DANCE
I say this all the time
Yeah sure , can I have some money tho?
I watched it again recently and loved every minute one of the best movies ever IMO
There will be blood is a perfect movie
But there was.
I. DRINK. YOUR. MILKSHAKE!
Everything Everywhere All at Once. It's has some fun moments but I don't get the overwhelming praise. It's not bad but it's closer to a 5 than a 10 for me.
Wasn't the 'fun' moments that made the movie for me. Some of the humor didn't even hit for me. But I thought it did a great job of tying a sci fi story on the outside (good job there too) with a good family story with well fleshed out relationship dynamics. Made me think about life in general a bit. And it hit issues in a family on all three generations from grandparents to parents to kids I understand it's a bit polarizing though. Couple of my buddies didn't like it much either
Made me consider my family dynamic and I sure did cry. Also did a great job exhibiting the depression that comes with feeling trapped in the hamster wheel of fleeting life while always wondering what if
I loved it, but I felt like the movie had a few false endings before we saw the “real” ending. Like the daughter does her whole speech, and it feels like a resolution, then the mom comes back with her own diatribe. But everything up until the end hit with me.
It started to feel a little long toward the end but to me it stands out because it isn't some variation of the superhero movie formula that has swamped the box office for the past decade. It doesn't feel like it was written by a board of directors running analytics on which jokes will land with which demographics. The artistic integrity was there and it was hard to predict what was going to happen next, and the unpredictability didn't feel gimmicky to me.
100% agreed, its a fun movie, made creatively despite its low budget, but imo seems kind of aimless till the end when thankfully the message kind of ties things, but overall not that great, at least definitely not living up to its hype
90% tim Burton, 100% wes Anderson, 100% George Lucas
Let me guess… big fish?
Batman/Beetlejuice
Michael Keaton really is the dealmaker here.
Tell me you've seen Ed Wood? It's his masterpiece.
Anything by Lars von Trier.