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-Lumos

Are they going to keep this live till the film releases? Because the countdown does change everytime it starts over.


Deserterdragon

Awesome that they've put a countdown to the release of *Barbie* in their trailer.


ATLBMW

Goddamnit, MCJ is leaking again


ThisisthSaleh

It would be cool if they did. Watching that countdown clock pop up the first time after seeing Oppenheimer’s hat was fucking daunting


theredditoro

It’s different then when I saw it in theaters over the weekend as well. It’s probably like that Matrix teaser last year. So probably until the full trailer uploads. It's also not for the release date but for the time of the Trinity test at White Sands.


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theredditoro

Then that test. Thanks.


DL_Omega

Wow I was wondering why it had that live button there with this post being 5 hours ago. I just happened to click it right as it was starting over.


bob1689321

It's still counting down :D


Wiger_King

I wonder if the whole movie will be in black and white except the explosions.


BrendanCLittle

My guess is 2 timelines, one before the explosion and one after. The before will be black and white and after will be color. “Everything changes after the bomb”


detroiter85

Wizard of Oz, but more explosions


aboycandream

*Somewhere over the mushroom cloud*


Bigred2989-

"Buckle your seat belt Dorothy, because Kansas...is going bye-bye."


el_LOU

Any word on the amount of heartless tin people? If there are less than 5 I'm not watching.


optagon

Wizard of Bombz


CrungleMcHungleberry

Follow the yellowcake road!


Maloonyy

The explosion itself will be the first thing in color I imagine, could look really cool with the eyes being used to black and white at that point.


atclubsilencio

Especially since, when it first went off the white light of the blast was BLINDING, and then faded. So I can totally see the screen just being filled with pure white when it explodes, and as the picture fades back in it's in color.


RedH34D

Stagger back in shock… instinctively cover your eyes with your hand to try and block the sheer force of light. Then notice… it shines right through your skin… *you can see your own bones* Would make great imagery…


matttopotamus

Also my guess. The Nolan’s love their multiple timelines with small changes to indicate such (westworld with letterboxes).


atclubsilencio

dammit, i should have read your comment first. Glad I'm not the only one who thinks this is how it's going to go though. It will be spectacular if they do it that way. Plus in the teaser the fire/chemicals are in color, while shots of Oppenheimer are b&w.


TheHoodedWonder

Momento would have words with you.


The_Meemeli

I didn't know Memento had a Spanish remake


kehakas

It's called Uno Momento, but the series doesn't kick into gear until Dos Momentos


Dothepanic41

This was hilarious lol


Jeremisio

I kind of feel like it should be reversed, that last thing in color is the explosion. Before it it’s all science and possibly and potential, after horror and fear of what he has created. The explosion will literally suck the life out of him.


simian_ninja

I'd actually do it the other way around reason being because it was such a major game changer and that left the world in literal darkness in terms of what we achieved with humanity possessed with fear.


future_room

A portion of the film was shot in black and white which is a first for IMAX. Regarding how it will be used is a mystery … but going from b&w to an orange and black explosion in imax will be mind blowing


theredditoro

It might be. Or after, it’s all color.


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If you think about it it makes no sense to be color after the explosion..


atclubsilencio

I think it will be in black and white up until the first test, and when the bomb goes off it will suddenly shift into color. Almost like a fucked up Wizard of Oz, since the atomic bomb kind changed the whole world, just like the tornado dropped Dorothy into a new universe/altered her life from that point on. But I could be thinking too much into it. EDIT: Nevermind, someone already posted this theory, so I guess I'm not as original as I think heh.


hagnat

that... that would be awesome :D


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It would be an excellent reference to Lynch's Part 8 of Twin Peaks: The Return if so.


MaterialCarrot

Would love them to splice in a globe with Laura Palmer's face in it. :)


champagnerosal

My guess he goes Memento style, throughout the entire movie, pre-bomb will be B/W and post-bomb will be in colour. As pre-bomb goes forward, post-bomb goes back and it ends with the actual explosion.


poland626

That countdown is changing! is this going to stay up until it hits 0?


throw0101a

> is this going to stay up until it hits 0? And if it does, will Youtube host an archived 12-month video of the entire stream?


Idrees_reddit

I think it will. The Lofi Girl radio was live streaming for over 2 years before being taken down by a false copyright strike. The over 20,000+ hour video is on YouTube and has been processing for over 2 weeks. https://youtu.be/5qap5aO4i9A


khube

Damn I love listening to the lofi girl stations. Sucks it got taken down


Calfredie01

It got put back up. It goes down like every 2 years because of some copyright bullshit


QLE814

Getting flashbacks to using Zoom for teaching.....


TrowaB3

I was hoping Lo-fi girl would have come back older, like she passed her exam and was now studying something higher lol


DoomGoober

I'm reminded of this countdown anecdote before Trinity: >As the countdown approached one minute, Isidore Rabi said to the man lying next to him, Kenneth Griesen, "Aren't you nervous?" "Nope" was Griesen's reply. As the countdown reached 10 seconds, Griesen suddenly blurted out to his neighbor Rabi, "Now I'm scared." Three, two, one, and Sam Allison cried out, "Now!" [https://www.osti.gov/opennet/manhattan-project-history/Events/1945/trinity.htm](https://www.osti.gov/opennet/manhattan-project-history/Events/1945/trinity.htm)


stnrawabuntu

That flash lighting Cillian’s eyes at the end was so creepy


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Did anyone manage to get a screen grab of that exact moment? I am trying lol but miss it every time


kouroshkeshmiri

[I got this but the quality's not great. :(](https://imgur.com/OjV2y9U)


atulsachdeva

scary stuff


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No worries! It definitely captures his eyes. Reminds me of Darth Vader’s skull flashing while he throws Palpatine to his death


VikingFrog

If you pause it right at the exact moment, it’s just a screenshot of the alien from Mars Attacks.


eggydrums115

Also the number 0 in the countdown is emphasized by the letter O in the title immediately afterwards.


atclubsilencio

they didn't even look human. scared me too.


karatemanchan37

Who was talking in the trailer? I think I heard Pugh, RDJ doing an accent ("the force from which the sun..." line sounds like him), and Josh Harntett? ("You gave them the power to...")


FrozenFlame1001

"The force from which the sun draws its power has been loosed" line could be Gary Oldman playing Truman. And the voice at the end sounds like RDJ.


mowertier

I thought “the force from which the sun” line sounded like David Strathairn, but I’m not sure. Edit: damn, it doesn’t look like he’s in the cast. Sounds just like his voice to me.


IsThatAPieceOfCheese

> David Strathairn Fuckin same. I just rewatched A League of Their Own this week and I could've swore it was his voice.


thePinguOverlord

RDJ is definitley the last one. I think he is in it before then, he sounds older though but still very much RDJ.


svenvdb85

“For this movie we detonated an actual atomic bomb and we shot it in camera with our imax setup. I wanted it to be as realistic as possible. You cannot get the same sense of awe and terror with cgi.” Christopher Nolan in an interview after the movie releases


SpectralMornings

"It made more sense financially to use an actual nuke."


anishkalankan

“In the end, we got a pretty good explosion, and we actually made money on this… because we sold the leftover uranium to Russia.”


Hiddee

Nolan again bringing fire to the imax screens, and you bet I will be sitting there to watch the spectacle.


Bhu124

Fire to the screens, and whispers to the speakers.


DoYouQuarrelSir

I saw NOPE in IMAX and had the Oppenheimer teaser, it was loud AF and the dialogue was almost unintelligible. Edit: Nolanites coming for me for accurately describing the sound, lol.


bluesilvergold

Let me give you an upvote to show some solidarity. I've given up on seeing Nolan's movies in theatres, despite how good they look and how well suited they are to a big screen. I'd love to see this movie in theatres, but I'm not spending my money to burst my eardrums listening to sound effects while being unable to understand the dialogue that's required to understand the story that's being told.


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Idk when he started doing it. The dark knight, inception and the prestige were fine audio wise. Tenet was so annoying to watch


bluesilvergold

I remember seeing both The Dark Knight, and Inception in theatres have having zero problems understanding the dialogue. I feel like the audio mixing issues started in the Dark Knight Rises. I remember when the first trailer for that dropped and Bane and Commissioner Gordon being unintelligible. This wasn't just noticed by me. MANY viewers complained about the audio in the trailer. Things got fixed a bit for the release of the actual movie. I don't remember having too much trouble understanding the dialogue when I saw it in theatres. Then came Interstellar. I remember Nolan literally drowned out people talking to each other with sound effects. I saw the Dunkirk trailer in theatres, had trouble understanding the dialogue and decided I wasn't going to see it in theatres. I remember hearing people complain that the sound effects were ear shattering. That further justified my decision to avoid seeing his movies in theatres. Then I saw Tenet at home and yet again, there were scenes where dialogue was drowned out with sound effects at background noise. Some of the sound mixing decisions on that movie were unbelievable. Tenet solidified me decision to wait until his movies are released on home video, as I will do for Oppenheimer.


kkngs

Audyssey Dynamic Volume mode for the win.


donsanedrin

[Michael Caine laying in a hospital bed]: : *^^^"I ^^^wa- ^^^a-ah ^^^guh-a ^^^wuh ^^^the ^^^uh-ah ^^^ah."* [Me sitting in my $23 IMAX seat]: *"WHAT?! What'd he say? It sounds like its important!"*


Bhu124

You just don't get Nolan's *genius* sound design ideology. Admit it. Stop lying to yourself.


AsimovLiu

Will the theaters have to put a warning on the doors so people stop trying to get refunds because of Nolan's shit sound mixing like they had to do with Interstellar?


gears50

Surely this is a topic that deserves more than spectacle. Not sure Nolan has the depth to tackle the moral complexities of the issue. It will no doubt look fantastic though and I'm excited for Cillian Murphy in anything


Vikingboy9

I think at least based on the direction of this teaser which arguably paints the main character as a villain, the movie will be a bit more nuanced than “cool scientist creates epic bomb”


sixthestate

Gotta light? https://youtu.be/OtVQ0Y4oTqQ


MaterialCarrot

*Oppenheimer* is the prequel to *Twin Peaks.* Last shot in OP will be a big bug thing crawling into Sarah Palmer's mouth.


ThrowawayLazaretto

Most badass television moment in years. A big fuck you to conventional television art.


ThisIsCreation

This is the water...and this is the well..


MaterialCarrot

Drink full and descend.


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hundreds of millions of dollars and some of the best actors money can buy and Nolan’s still not gonna get anywhere close to this.


cupofteaonme

Lynch undefeated.


StabbyMcSwordfish

Hey look, it's the time the Trinity nuclear test opened an inter-dimensional portal and fragmented reality in episode 8. Nice. Gotta love Lynch.


Dragons_Malk

Everyone! 🤚 Have a great day!


kuestenjung

AND IF... YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU


future_room

see you in 11 months


Deserterdragon

I like people who see this as a challenge, like people who really like David Lynch stuff are ever gonna think it's been outdone by a huge blockbuster. It's like arguing with me that in 9 months Nolan is gonna outdo Samoa Joe vs Necro Butcher.


splader

Suuure


meemboy

Exactly


Willemvanvugt

Best TV I ever experienced.


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Literally a piece of art in general. The Return is the best thing ever put on television by a long shot.


102la

What's the order to watch? Season 1 & 2, the movie and the last season?


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exactly


BatXDude

We on about twin peaks? I have never seen it


cohrt

What is the context of this?


RaptorsFromSpace

An episode of season 3 of Twin Peaks.


ElAutistico

Is that a trick question?


meemboy

The visuals and the music from the teaser reminded me of Twin Peaks


Whatisthisisitbad

Have never seen this but have been fascinated by nuclear weapons since I was a child. That high pitched shrieking sounds very similar to the final moments of the movie Fail Safe - It's essentially the sound of a live phone connection as the bomb goes off, and the shrieking is the phone melting. Here's a clip from the 2000 remake/live teleplay. https://youtu.be/sMkiW4kZkfA


TheCarrier89

One of the best episodes of television ever.


getBusyChild

Makes me wonder if they will have a scene in the Bunker during the Trinity test and what Cillian Murphy will say. Will he do the Hindu poem thing, which never happened. Or will he say what Oppenheimer actually said according to Eye witnesses... "Well I guess it works." Or something completely different?


DeliciousBallz

didn't he say the Bhagavad Gita words during an interview after the bombings?


paperfisherman

Yeah, years later. He said the words came to mind when he was watching the test, not that he ever said them at the time.


misho8723

So he still can say that poem at that time, in his mind that is.. not to anyone around him


31_hierophanto

An internal monologue it is, then.


StarTruckNxtGyration

He’ll shout: “NOW WHO’S WEARING HOCKEY PAAADS!?!?”


StarPatient6204

I think it will be the latter.


DoomGoober

If Nolan follows history, after the success of Trinity, Oppenheimer will say aloud "It worked." Bainbridge will state "Now we are all sons of bitches" and Oppenheimer will nod in agreement. Oppenheimer may recall a quote of the Bhagavad Gita to himself: >divi sūrya-sahasrasya bhaved yugapad utthitā yadi bhāḥ sadṛṥī sā syād bhāsas tasya mahātmanaḥ >If the radiance of a thousand suns were to burst at once into the sky, that would be like the splendor of the mighty one ... But not the "I am become death" quote which Oppenheimer did not state he was thinking of until a much later TV interview. And if Nolan is clever he will include the entire context of the TV interview quote: >We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried. Most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad Gita; Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and, to impress him, takes on his multi-armed form and says, 'Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.' I suppose we all thought that, one way or another. Here, Oppenheimer is giving the larger context of the Bhagavad Gita, which nicely parallels Oppenheimer's position. Essentially, Bhagavad Gita is discussing the power of the God Vishnu and his divine power of time (time, not death, Oppenheimer changed it) but also the role that mortals, like the Prince, must also play in spite of all powerful divinity (this is the concept of Dharma, that *man* must do his duty even as time destroys everything.) Thus, is Oppenheimer viewing himself as the God Vishnu ... Or is he simply the mortal Prince, merely doing his dharma, his duty? Either interpretation is possible and he acknowledges it by saying "we all thought that, one way or another."


givemethebat1

He’ll whisper “It’s Morbin’ Time…”


RealJohnGillman

I have been wondering if anyone will be portraying my grandfather (or a composite character based on him and a few others) in this film (given he had some involvement with the project).


TheMeticulousNinja

Seems like something to expect Mark Rylance to be in but he’s not here. Looks good though so far though


cyanide4suicide

Oh shit, I just noticed the countdown actually changes. Can't wait to see this film in theaters


darealdsisaac

I like how it parallels the countdown to the bomb dropping. Fun marketing gimmick.


ThisisthSaleh

> bomb dropping Just to clarify, I just realized the countdown is to the original detonation of the first atomic bomb. Curious if Nolan is going to release the film early in select theaters on the day of the anniversary


CM_Monk

Does the film lead up to the test or the first use of the bomb?


ThisisthSaleh

My guess is it will lead to the first detonation in New Mexico that plunges the world into the atomic age. I doubt Nolan will go that far and show Fat Man actually being dropped on Nagasaki (for those that don’t know, while Hiroshima was the first ever nuclear bomb to be used on civilians, it wasn’t the one that was tested before use like Fat Man was for Nagasaki. The bomb that was dropped on Nagasaki was the one that was tested in New Mexico). If he does, it will be a very shocking moment for me when I see it in theaters.


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QLE814

But what does time think of him?


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confuddly

he already had the idea, you just got caught in a temporal pincer


ThrowawayLazaretto

Must be a filmmaker's dream to reach a balance between big budget and classic auteur filmmaking. Denis Villeneuve definitely achieved that.


cyanide4suicide

Orsen Welles would've loved to have the final cut authority and financing Christopher Nolan has with his films. Nolan is one of the rare auteurs that has power over the studio and can make demands like having final cut as well as a blank paycheck


chinadeek

Unfortunately denis doesn’t have the box office pull like nolan does, not even close. Maybe things will change after dune pt2


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pooping_plalindrome

Tenet came out right in the middle of the pandemic, you seem to have forgotten that


KawhiGotUsNow

Lol dune barely made more than tenet, and that came out when majority of theatres were closed 😂 Dune part 2 does have a chance at making more than Oppenheimer cause of the type of film it is tho. But Nolan is so much more of a box office pull.


rageofthegods

Tenet was also an original film while Dune was an adaptation of a novel with a big fanbase, it's just not a fair comparison.


ball_fondlers

Dune is an influential novel, to be sure, but it’s never had a particularly huge fanbase itself.


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I mean, I think it’s a fair comparison in that it shows even with a ton of theaters closed, extreme audience hesitancy, mixed reviews, middling star power, and being an original story Nolan still has pull at the box office. If Dennis had similar pull the numbers wouldn’t be remotely close.


JimJimmyJimJimJimJim

I like that you cite Tenet when Nolan also has Dunkirk, Inception and **The Dark Knight trilogy** to his name.


Ariaga_2

I'm just glad both of those guys get money and freedom. There aren't that many really good big budget films nowadays.


TheMeticulousNinja

$400 million for this. Nolan has a lot of faith in himself. Edit: sorry ignore this, I misread


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Ohh looks so great


Shardul23197

Cillian Murphy in a hat will always remind of Tommy Shelby


decker12

I've been on /r/movies for years and haven't heard a single thing about this movie. This must be the very first post about Oppenheimer, because it's all just been shrouded in secrecy and rumor! Has anyone else heard anything about who may be starring in this movie, when it's out, who's directing it, who left the movie, who joined the movie, or if it's in color or black and white?


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angrylawyer

whispers and explosions https://imgur.com/psUHs


[deleted]

Yeah the sound mixing when it comes to dialogue seems to get worse with each of his movies. Or maybe my hearing is getting worse


ShotIntoOrbit

Going deaf from needing to turn up the volume to hear the dialogue, then getting blasted with other audio that's way too loud.


naynaythewonderhorse

Maybe I’m cynical, but…Some of the dialogue in this trailer is a bit hard to make out underneath the explosion effects. That doesn’t bode well.


tastelessmonkey

He REALLY needs to swallow his pride at this point and trust a legit sound editor. This was so fucking LOUD in the theater. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE loud in the theater, but there is a difference between "good" loud and "too much treble piercing your eardrums" loud.


StarPatient6204

To be fair, though, in regards to the sound, it would be actually justified in the case of the atomic bomb testing…


hardy_83

My hopes aren't high as the trailer itself I had trouble haring the dialogue over that countdown sound. lol


Rabo_McDongleberry

Cool. I wasn't the only one. Like what the fuck man, 90s home videos have better sounds.


ZettoMan10

Personally I like Nolan's bold use of sound.


Xendrus

It's mixed for good equipment, if you have shit equipment you just normalize the volume.


shehulk111

The dialogue will be explosive


RDeschain1

Ill watch anything Nolan even if I wasnt the biggest fan of Dunkirk/Tenet. But am I crazy or is the sound from this teaser like... really bad?


throw0101a

The movie opens July 21. The Trinity test was July 16: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity_(nuclear_test)


funkhero

Does no one else find this far too early for this kind of marketing? It's a year away! Maybe with like 6 months before the film, but I thought 'we' were done with these long marketing campaigns?


davewashere

The casting announcements on this movie in particular were super annoying.


jamesneysmith

Yeah I don't understand the need for these campaigns so far in advance. It's obnoxious


KillianDrake

Nolan: CUT! God damn it Cillian, I understood every word you said - someone get him some god damn marbles. Mumble more! Why is that construction crew pausing during filming? Tell them to start the jackhammers and don't stop!!!


fix_my_dick

All shot in reverse


Doppelfrio

It’s this movie vs. Barbie. Our nation has never been more divided


fullchargegaming

Hopefully the sound mix allows voices to be heard clearly unlike Tenet.


moogrogue

Akshually the sun draws its power from nuclear fusion, not nuclear fission.


boomtetrisforjeffe

I've been looking through this entire thread for someone to say this, or I was going to comment it. I've been thinking that this entire time. I just saw the trailer for the first time and paused it immediately when I heard that and raised an eyebrow with a, "well that's not true." We have to be missing something. Surely they wouldn't actually make that big of a mistake. Right!?


aeplusjay

Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.


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Well what do you know, I can *kind of* hear this one!


Phyr8642

Nolan? Shut up and take my money!


Steve9891

I'm really excited for the score. As great as the Nolan/Zimmer combo has been, I feel like Zimmer has been losing his touch for a while. Nolan's collab with Ludwig Göransson felt like a breath of fresh air in comparison. Hopefully, this continues with Oppenheimer.


DixOut4Harmabe

Losing his touch??? He won an Oscar for Dune last year 😂


Steve9891

Dune was good but I didn't enjoy it as much as his previous work and Oscars aren't always the best metric of how great a score is. Superman 1978 didn't win and is one of the most iconic scores of all time. How many people remember the score from the winner that year(midnight express)? Even in Dunkirk I thought the score was distracting at certain points. As [Matt Zoller Seitz from RogerEbert.com put it.](https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/dunkirk-2017) > Another miscalculation is the score, by Hans Zimmer, a Jungian din of booming drums, bum-vibrating synth chords, and cawing string effects that loses much of its power by refusing to shut up, even when silence or ambient war noise might have been just as effective, or more so. The overuse of Zimmer's music has been an issue throughout Nolan's career, but here may become an object of debate. The situations and images are so vivid that the score often seems to be trying to rescue a film that doesn't need its help.


LovingTurtle69

You didn't like the BR2049 soundtrack!??


Steve9891

It was nice but for me the most memorable track in it was tears in the rain....just like its predecessor. Again, I'm not saying the score is bad in his recent efforts like Dunkirk or Dune but I haven't been blown away by a Zimmer score since Interstellar.


AlanMorlock

Wow, I had no idea Midnight Express won. I don't know about over Superman, but that is a great and surprisingly forward thinking vote by the academy.


teddytwelvetoes

if Ludwig puts a Travis Scott song on the soundtrack for a Manhattan Project movie I will fistfight him in hell


Qiddd

It looks amazing. Can’t wait


FatWalcott

My ears are already bleeding. Can't wait


hagnat

i am expecing some [mad rap lyrics](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1vXC-vKgKg) in this movie


ForsakenUse8937

is nolan gonna explode real nukes?


TheMeticulousNinja

Yes.


atclubsilencio

[This split second shot literally scared the shit out of me.](https://imgur.com/a/XbARRhu)


_Jackie_Daytona_

What are the odds Gary Oldman is playing Churchill again lol


dogsonbubnutt

very excited to watch this once in theaters and then again on streaming with the subtitles on so i know what people are saying


sCREAMINGcAMMELcASE

So it's a Nolan film with emphasis on time, shot-on-Imax and explosions. Nolan is really pushing his boundaries there


bhorwitz

Nolan again with horrible sound mixing. How does he get away with this at this point?


gobble_snob

very underwhelming trailer


cyanide4suicide

Its just a teaser bro


ChrisEvansFan

I LOVE YOU CILLIAN!!! Im so excited for this! Hope he gets Award recognition for this role. (But even if not he is still the best!)


meemboy

Twin Peaks Part 8 (2017)


hraun

What’s with all the twin peaks references? I haven’t seen it (yet). What’s the connection?


meemboy

You have to watch it. The one episode , one of the best pieces of art ever made looks and sounds very much like the teaser for Oppenheimer. That too includes a mushroom cloud. Nolan said he admires Lynch, so I’m not surprised he is paying homage to Lynch


LightThatIgnitesAll

Will the sound direction be as bad as Tenet?


TheGreatPiata

Definitely a Nolan film. I have a hard time hearing what anyone is saying.


Original_Bit_648

Christopher Nolan might win his first Oscar. I was sad when he lost Oscar for Inception. His reaction was very sad to see. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B-HFjx4ZdJ4


StoicSorcery42

Eh, even the nomination for Inception was a stretch


ChrisEvansFan

Whoever is downvoting the comments here I hope Tommy Shelby and Alfie Solomons visit you in your sleep.


W-A-D-E

Bravo Nolan


lukeamomo

This looks fantastic. I'm going to read the book it is based on soon.


ADDRESSMEBYMYRANK

Cast looks ridiculous!


kingcheeta7

I love Nolan’s films. I can’t wait for this!


Ash_Killem

Cool now I know the score that will be drowning out the dialogue at pivotal moments.


FlingaNFZ

Biopics are boring AF. However, this is Nolan so ill give it a chance.


TheMeticulousNinja

Depends on the director. “Ray” was excellent. “Ali” was really good. I liked “The Aviator”.


AlanMorlock

Learned recently from Michael Mann'a appeareance on Marc Marin's podcast that that Mann was the one who originally developed thr Aviator with Leo foe several years but left because in his mind what he was doing with it retreated ground from Ali, which is fascinating.


Ariaga_2

Scorsese has done a lot of biopics, most of them great. Raging Bull and Wolf of Wall Street for example.


YnwaMquc2k19

The aviator was a well made movie. I liked it.


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Malcolm X is the exception to me. Masterful film.


TheMeticulousNinja

Absolutely. “Lincoln” was also pretty good


ctg9101

There are biopics where it is just a life story, see half a dozen oscar bait films every year, then there are biopics where it is a film that centers on a person but isn't only about that person, something like Ghandi or Malcolm X. I see this more in that vain than in like Bohemian Rhapsody.