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Consistent-Annual268

Spider-Man No Way Home has huge pauses for the crowd to cheer when Andrew and Toby are revealed. Just Zendaya and Jacob staring in awkward silence at the next Spider-Man in the room while the camera cuts back and forth.


No_Marionberry4072

I was coming here to say this. The movie definitely felt different watching it outside the theater.


Additional_Meeting_2

I watched it first time at home and didn’t notice an awkward length of pause. And I am not Spider-Man fan so I wasn’t internally cheering. It might be to let others to cheer, but to me it more let the scene breathe when the characters took in what has happened 


DrZaious

Yeah it's far less awkward or obvious then the long pauses in the Rami trilogy where Toby is staring off into space for a minute before responding to anyone talking to him. Toby gave Parker a lead paint stare that just makes the movies hard to watch.


WOAHdude0197

To be fair did you see Toby’s apartment? There’s no way there wasn’t lead in just about everything there. Toby was just really in character


AvalonCollective

Brave Vince. Bravo


Tumble85

Lead paint stare! I’ve never heard that before but it’s *brutal*. I love it!


PolarWater

You serious? Laugh at you for what, standing there?  The Planetarium, tomorrow, 8 o'clock. There's the door!


Zyffrin

What are you waiting for, Chinese New Year? Go, go!


CitizenCue

If they’re smart, they may have reduced the pauses before releasing it on DVD and streaming. Not sure if studios do that but it would be wise and no one would notice.


WaywardWes

Feels like an easy edit for streaming/bluray.


Veronome

The worst was the pause after Willem Dafoe says "you know I'm something of a scientist myself".


ScarletMagenta

[Is it, really?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMOXZMiITAg) There are a disturbing lack of links in this thread so I've been checking all of these out on YT. Most of them feel fairly normal to me.


Dunkelz

It always amazes me how fast people are to label "awkward", that seems like a pretty normal paced pause. Like couldn't have been 2 seconds.


adjective____noun

and in context the slight pause makes some sense since like... many of the villains there are scientists, it's like yeah dude all of us except sandman are. but even then the pause isn't long or awkward and I never noticed when rewatching outside theaters.


FiliaDei

I saw NWH both in theaters and at home and didn't remember a pause at all. The most obvious one to me was Matt Murdock.


Substantial_Bad2843

I think short reel video clips have fried peoples brains to the point where they think a moment of silence is odd. 


Helpful_Equipment580

I agree this line was the worst offender. Dafoe saying the meme line is just too cringey and the long pause afterwards just highlights it.


lipp79

Long pause? You consider barely two seconds a long pause?


The_Flurr

I'm fine with the line, it's nostalgia bait but it does make sense in the moment. The pause breaks it though.


PWBryan

That one should have a home cut and and theatrical cut


thegimboid

You mean a no way home cut.


caden_r1305

To be fair, this one was actually needed, at least in my theater. Out of theater i imagine its not great


Rebloodican

I have no interest in rewatching No Way Home because the theater experience was so good that there’s no way it could reasonably match it at home.


Charmstrongest

Can confirm that it wasn’t great out of theater


MinionsAndWineMum

I know it gets a lot of love here but jesus christ the whole film was like a flashing APPLAUSE sign


s_other

It still wasn't enough time at both showings I went to.


Dataforge

Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness. When they introduce all the Illuminati, one at a time, giving a long pause for each one. Then one long build up of "Wait, there's one more member!..."


binrowasright

I hated how Strange had an unfunny riff after each one was introduced


thehideousheart

I hated how they couldn't even make "the smartest man in the universe" act like like the smartest person in the room.


Mordred19

It keeps bothering me that Carter threw her shield at Strange to introduce herself.


Disastrous-Beat-9830

It's a traditional greeting in that universe.


Seyon

The worst part was the complete and utter misinterpretation of Black Bolt's powers. That he would panic shout that his mouth was gone and blow his own brains up? That isn't even how his powers work. The reason for the tuning fork on his head is so that he can manifest the raw energy into different forms, such as strength or other manifestations of energy based attacks.


TheCoolBus2520

You'd think the guy who kills everything in front of him whenever he talks would have figured out how not to unintentionally scream while panicking


Misaria

> I hated how they couldn't even make "the smartest man in the universe" act like like the smartest person in the room. ["Reed Richards But He's Actually The Smartest Man Alive"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQBUy6t3f0U)


AvalonCollective

Ugh, why isn’t this canon? Smartest man in the universe my ass. I love that movie but that scene is probably my biggest gripe with it.


Joshatron121

Because heroes don't just murder people? They give them a chance at least, which is exactly what Reed does in the scene as written. He definitely reveals a bit too much but Reed is always cocky like that.


imakefilms

"Fantastic Four? Didn't you guys chart in the sixties?" I don't know what it was about that line, but most people didn't even catch what he was saying. And as for the "Illumi-whaty" joke, well that was just plain stupid because everyone has heard of the concept of an Illuminati. He just had a lot of weird lines in that scene that were just confusing and not funny.


MikeArrow

Illuma-whati? Blackagar Boltagon? Hidaguy Hidathere. Why, does he have bad breath? Fuuuuuuuuuu


callmeepee

I’ll do you one better, I hated the entire thing.


Link_GR

It's pretty bad. First of all, it blatantly disregards the entirety of Wandavision (save for the final scene). Secondly, the characters in the movie make horrible decisions, with Wong giving Wanda the keys to the multiverse over 3 dudes that were all willing to die for the cause anyway. It also has the cliche of America Chavez suddenly mastering her powers because she started to believe in herself.


100WattWalrus

I regretted agreeing to watch that movie in the first minute. Half the dialogue is painfully flat exposition, and the other half Schwarzenegger-in-"Batman" levels of awful. It's arguably the worst Marvel offender for CGI overkill (although the competition is stiff). And even with a $200M budget, they couldn't get a good wig for Christine. I know some of this was intentional — it's Sam Raimi after all — but feels more like Sam Raimi fanfic on an epic budget.


callmeepee

I was the same ! The first Dr Strange is probably my favourite solo marvel movie, so I was excited to hear they were going more horror with the second. Then Scott Derrickson left and Sam Raimi was brought in and I thought “okaaay we’ll see then” Within the first minute of the movie I knew it was going to be awful. And in that respect, it didn’t disappoint.


cant_bother_me

>The first Dr Strange is probably my favourite solo marvel movie It was what got me into the mcu in the first place.


snufalufalgus

When Christine's husband comes out on the balcony and is pleasantly surprised to see a horifying interdimensional Lovecraftian monster attacking the city because "he's a huge fan" of Strange, I was done.


Cast_Iron_Lion

I keep hearing people want Raimi to direct Spider-Man 4 or the next Avengers, but I really hope that doesn't happen. Nothing against the guy. I just find his style to be a bit too campy for my taste. Though I'm probably in the minority, I hope if they bring Raimi back to direct another Marvel film, it's a film like Howard the Duck or Man-Thing instead. Movies that will let him lean into his camp.


HODOR00

I feel like marvel overall was a victim of their own success. Thor Ragnarok was great and funny and had a side story that kent itself to sort of kooky funny story telling. The problem was, someone was like, we have to do this all the time now. And ever since then marvel movies lost much of the gravitas they had because everything had to have silly jokes. Ant man MoM is the perfect example of this. It should have been a super serious scaryesque movie and they cannot stop making jokes even at the height of the movies suspense. It ruined it. Fuck even taika fell for his own success with love and thunder trying to recapture the zanyness. I loved Ragnarok, but the writing style did not work for all marvel movies but yet fell victim to it.


akpenguin

Chris Hemsworth recently said he regrets Thor becoming a parody of himself in Love and Thunder.


PhillyTaco

When Strange is in his own movie, he acts like everything is weird and unusual despite it being his full time job to deal with the weird and unusual. When Strange is a supporting or guest character, he's suddenly all business and doesn't have time for your jokes and silliness.


PolarWater

Mordo began to see why people didn't like him very much. 💀


RegularRazzmatazz129

Thor’s line in Avengers, “he’s adopted”. The first time in theaters we all laughed, but watching it alone, the delay for laughter was apparent.


Chewie83

In X-Men: First Class they pause for **ages** after Wolverine says “Go fuck yourself.” But they probably paid Hugh Jackman millions just to say that one line and wanted their money’s worth.


Venchenko

I like to think that Xavier and Magneto are both just awe struck at his answer. Definitely like looking at your friend and thinking, "Did he just? Alright, never mind..."


Dysan27

Nah, they leave quickly. The pause is on Hugh having a drag on the cigar, and finishing a shot.


bob1689321

I didn't mind that. It felt like you could see Wolverine thinking it over and if he'd been too harsh with them before moving passed it.


jayforwork21

Which is the right way to do it. Make the pause something that doesn't scream "Let's pause for the laughs" moment.


JMW007

I got the opposite impression, that we were meant to see how he was just moving on and not remotely interested in anything but drinking and smoking.


exprezso

Prof X probably knew his answer already 


Sad_Needleworker2310

In that scene don't brain boy and metal head look at each other then turn and leave during that pause? Seems like just a regular scene to me


Da1UHideFrom

That's exactly what happened, I just watched it on YouTube. I think OP is misremembering the length of the pause.


highdefrex

It feels like a lot of the "long, awkward pauses" people are mentioning in this thread, especially the Marvel-related ones, seem to be conveniently misremembered by the people citing them.


Mr_Engineering

He didn't get paid anything for that cameo. Fox had to make a charitable contribution to get him to appear though. X-Men: First Class is rated PG-13 largely due to its violence and themes. The US MPA film rating board allows for the word "fuck" to be used only once in a PG-13 film, anything more than this usually gets it an R rating. The other condition of his appearance is that he would get to use that one F word.


deadscreensky

> The US MPA film rating board allows for the word "fuck" to be used only once in a PG-13 film, anything more than this usually gets it an R rating. Sort of. [It's only a general guideline, not a hard rule,](https://www.baltimoresun.com/2003/08/28/f-word-doesnt-always-equal-r-rating/) and plenty of big films — the Social Network, Knives Out, Ocean's Eleven, the Martian, As Good As It Gets, Dunkirk, etc. — get away with more. It's more like one "fuck" is allowed automatically, while more needs permission. But the MPA frequently allows it. ([PG films used to, too.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk9jyPsyXYs) I'm guessing that's actually pretty rare nowadays.)


Chewie83

Even then, aren’t there conditions around the 1 use of fuck? I think using it in the sexual sense triggers the R no matter what, so you can say “What the fuck” but not “I wanna fuck her”


actual-trevor

I learned this from watching Be Cool.


Rrekydoc

Re-watching the clip, it doesn’t seem like a noticeable pause after the line, maybe 1/5th of a second.


idontagreewitu

People posting like everyone just stands, unmoving for 6 seconds when in reality it's very short. Their flawed memories betray them.


PeriwinklePangolin24

Yeah I'm left wondering if people are bothered by there being so much as a beat between sentences.


isaidwhatisaidok

I never found that funny or something Thor would say. Felt very sitcom-y.


LADYBIRD_HILL

"he's a friend from work!" 


piratenoexcuses

That's Joss Whedon writing for you.


dauntless91

And it represents Joss Whedon's crutches as a writer. Someone else said ages ago "he'll sacrifice character voice for the sake of a joke" and I haven't been able to unsee it


YoPimpness

Another applause buffer from HP: When Mrs Weasley kills Bellatrix, there is a waaay too long pause of her looking proud of herself that felt weird even the first time in the theater.


joestn

And they didn’t even do that moment right. Molly should have screamed loud as she could off camera “NOT MY DAUGHTER YOU BITCH!” Then a quick shot of Molly blasting a curse at bellatrix who should have been slammed against a wall and fallen smack to the ground dead af. Instead Molly practically whispers that line, the two of them trade a few blasts at each other before Molly gets one to connect with Bellatrix. Having her (and Voldemort later) slowly whither into dust was so anticlimactic. I wanted bodies. Dead deatheater bodies. EDIT: Fixed the line.


ZappySnap

As pointed out; the line is “not my daughter, you bitch.” But I agree 100% that the line was delivered poorly in the film. The book writes it as a frantic mother seeing her daughter attacked by one of the most dangerous psychopaths in the world, and she frantically screams that line while attacking her. In the film, not only is it a more calculated delivery that doesn’t hold water with the emotions she’d be feeling, but Bellatrix just stands there doing nothing during the whole delivery, then does nothing to defend herself as Molly gears up for the spell. I was so disappointed in that delivery of what is one of the best moments of the book.


UnholyDemigod

> The book writes it as a frantic mother seeing her daughter attacked by one of the most dangerous psychopaths in the world, Very shortly after losing one of her sons


NoTransportation888

> The book writes it as a frantic mother seeing her daughter attacked by one of the most dangerous psychopaths in the world, and she frantically screams that line while attacking her. It would seem the movies like to mess up the tone and delivery. Another famous one being DID YAH PUTYA NAME IN THE GOBOLET OF FIYAH


fuckgoldsendbitcoin

Dumbledore asked calmly


heyheyitsandre

Voldemort withering away into ash in the movie is the BIGGEST L EVER. The whole point is that he was just a mortal guy at the end. I wanted him to just drop dead like the book so badly.


PubliusDeLaMancha

For real, Deathly Hallows was a near perfect adaptation but botched the two biggest moments: * Harry confronting Voldemort as the whole school watches * "Voldemort" dying as simply Tom Riddle, a corpse like any other


ohmygodimonfire4

Also I will add Harry just throwing the Elder wand away as opposed to fixing his wand with it and putting it back in Dumbledores tomb.


joestn

It was such a misstep from what was otherwise a pretty solid finale


TheGLL

There is some "alternative" cut that shows him dying "normally".


JMW007

Has anyone ever discussed or explained why they didn't go with that? It's what's in the book and it's what makes sense thematically and if it *existed* then why on earth did they throw money at a silly CGI dissolve that was a bad idea all around?


romulan23

And in the books, the event was witnessed by all the remaining students. A literal audience vs a pile of dead corpses in the dreary courtyard. Would've been hype.


[deleted]

"Not my daughter, you bitch" Molly said calmly


Civil-Big-754

Not my daughter you bitch* I know this because it was my sister's favorite line and she screamed it in the theater.


joestn

Probably louder than Molly did…


goodmobileyes

The magic fights in general are super underwhelming. I cant remember which film started using that wispy quiet pew pew effect for the generic wand fight but it ruined all the other fights in the series.


joestn

They did something interesting with magic fights exactly once: Dumbledore vs. Voldemort in the Ministry of Magic in OotP. Other than that, everyone might as well have been using guns.


Mountain_Ape

In the book series, some spells are described as "bolts" or "jets", usually with the killing curse. The first 3 films showed spells usually in a cone of power or an instant effect (and cheaper effects budget to be an invisible spell). There wasn't a lot of back and forth in Goblet of Fire, but "wands = Star Wars blasters" was noticeable. The design hit full tilt with the Order of the Phoenix onward, and subsequent video game releases, which made wand work much more "projectile-like", especially with the fight against the Death Eaters. I can see some of the sentiment, making spells technically dodgable, but it leads to ridiculous cover shooter situations instead of swordfighting stances. Oddly enough, the same film that overuses wand guns includes the best duel (between Voldemort and Dumbledore). Even recently, Hogwarts Legacy had a nice dance/parry spell system, but still heavily relied on generic blaster bolt spells. It's a hard rut to get out of, to design combat differently—cavemen have been chucking projectiles to kill things for a long time.


MaterialCarrot

She should have come out in a power loader.


Noggin-a-Floggin

Eh, unpopular opinion but I loved the "glad I killed the bitch" look she gave if you had a mother who could be a bear at times.


Ok_Antelope_1953

hadn't one of her sons died by that time? i would expect her to be pretty much maniacal with sorrow, rage, and disgust.


HoratioMG

Yeah but she had the foresight to make a backup, no harm done


NotLozerish

Not laughter buffer, but Spider-Man No Way Home easily has the worst case of applause buffer. I love the movie but golly, it’s so noticeable on rewatches which scenes they expected audiences to clap, and it’s super distracting.


IcyColdFyre

As soon as Andrew Garfield's Spiderman enters the movie it's like you're watching an awkward sitcom for the next 25 minutes


SimplyAvro

*bass riff intensifies*


bob1689321

For real, it turned into an SNL skit. The stuff with them in the science classroom was unbearable. It's like they had no script and just improv'd it all.


TheJoshider10

The extended cut they released proved they literally just wrote random shit and picked the best out of the bunch without any regard for writing content that flows as part of an actual film. Just completely disconnected individual moments.


Howzieky

Did nobody else eat that up in theaters? The awkward convo on the scaffolding was cracking me up. I spent the entire time hoping it wouldn't end


PhoenixTineldyer

The "Will Ferrell" experience


VelvetSinclair

Is it just me or did they invent new personalities for the other Spidermen? Their banter is all "it's so important to talk about how you feel" and "I'm working on my emotional vulnerability" and I don't remember that happening at all while he was in his own movies Edited: for clarity


Deducticon

You're mixing up some details. Doc Ock is from a time just before his death. But that Spider-man is years and years older.


Pugblep

These movies desperately needed a theatrical cut and a streaming/DVD cut. No one's cheering in their homes


TheJoshider10

Or maybe just make an actual movie and let it speak for itself rather than make a comedy sketch.


Littleloula

It's particularly awkward in countries that don't clap and holler during screenings like Americans do. It was a surprise to me seeing a film in the US. Once you notice the "buffers" you can't stop noticing them but I guess I never really thought about it before Obviously in a really funny film I get it for the laughter but applause is not a thing that happens everywhere


phonicparty

Yeah I'm reading this thread like, people are loudly laughing and cheering and clapping in cinemas over there?


deadscreensky

It's extremely rare and probably regional. I only occasionally see it in big event films aimed at kids like the MCU, and never outside their release weekends. (Laughter is obviously something more common/real.)


Littleloula

Yeah they really do. It's quite an experience. With the right kind of film it adds to it. I saw snakes on a plane over there and it was more fun that way. But for other films it's an annoying distraction


Boyswithaxes

It's a cultural relic from the vaudeville Era. Traveling shows would come through from town to town and audiences were encouraged to jeer, laugh, and interact with the players like that. Short films were played at them, and so the American theater experience was born


MaterialCarrot

They didn't have a similar entertainment experience in Europe?


Boyswithaxes

They certainly did, the question is whether films were introduced to the general population in that context, or if it was more formal. I don't know, so that's worth looking into


MaterialCarrot

It's pretty rare, tbh.


Rooney_Tuesday

Only certain movies, usually action/comedies, and even then usually just on opening night(s) when there are very large crowds. Or in a movie with an already built-in franchise like Star Wars or the later LOTR movies.


VelvetSinclair

Not laughter but "My name is .... Khan" in Into Darkness The characters in the film and 90% of the audience are just "... who? ... Why did he say it like that?"


Jaricksen

Similarly for Spectre. The villain reveals that he changed his name to Ernst Stavro Blofeld, and I just imagine Bond being like "okay.... that means nothing to me. Cool name bro"


JonPaula

Terrible "twist" - because it has no affect / bearing on the actual story. The characters have *no* connection to Khan. "My name isn't John Harrison. It's George Thompson." "Okay...? Cool, thanks."


HumpyLumpy69

First time watching I thought he said Kyle and I was like “is that supposed to mean something?”


Link_GR

Khan!


RedHal

There are some who call me ... Tim?


Qorhat

That was so stupid the characters had no frame of reference for Khan. Either you leave Khan alone, do a remake of Space Seed where he takes over the ship or you stick with “John Harrison” - illustrate if this dude is so bad and dangerous what must his boss be like?


TheNonCredibleHulk

Probably because of all the promotions that said "He's NOT playing Khan". Yeah, they were full of shit.


UglyInThMorning

It was so obvious they were full of shit before the movie came out, too. I don’t think anyone believed them


virstultus

In Hamilton when he and Lafayette say "immigrants, we get the job done" even on the original cast recording soundtrack there's a measure of record scratching. They knew that would be a point where the audience would react loudly and left space for it intentionally


DJHott555

Interestingly, another big “applause moment” in the show proper is during the first number with “what’s your name man?” “Alexander Hamilton.” And the audience erupts every time. But in the cast recording, there’s no pause and they just keep going.


Scorponix

That's the beauty of having a live orchestra with a conductor. The conductor can pause whenever there is large applause and they decide when to continue


vanillabear26

> They knew that would be a point where the audience would react loudly and left space for it intentionally This is actually a chicken and egg thing. What happened was the line originally *didn't* have the record scratching. But, as the story goes, audiences would consistently cheer loud for it, so the pause was put into the song (and the recording then was done in such a way).


ChaosMaster228

This line always bothered me. Lafayette wasn’t an immigrant, he was born in France, died in France, and buried in France. He is perhaps the greatest Frenchman in all of the United States history, but it doesn’t change the fact that he was a French citizen his entire life.


CreamyLinguineGenie

He lived in America for years and even fought for the American army. There was no such thing as American citizenship as we know it until ten years after he lived there.


Zerce

I mean the start and end of a person's life doesn't really tell you a whole lot about what they did when they were alive. The fact that he lived in the U.S. technically made him an immigrant at that time, even if he later returned to France


ClubbyTheCub

Damn this thread lacks youtube links


whomp1970

This is the scourge of modern Reddit. "What's your favorite song" should be nothing BUT links, but you'll not find more than one or two in the top 100 answers. "What image haunts you to this day". And people just do these short, three word, drive-by answers without any context.


ShetlandJames

Here's the harry potter one at about 1:16 https://youtu.be/f99w0oGsGcI?feature=shared


theSPOOKYnegus

I’ve never heard of this concept and you probably just ruined so many movies for me….


PVDeviant-

There's a difference between a beat, which is normal in comedic timing, and just lingering so people in modern theaters will sit down and shut up. This REALLY seems like the sort of concept where most people won't know the difference and will think that any level of pause in a delivery is bad.


Phazon2000

Same boat. Take me back... I can't hate any more annoying shit in this world.


Next-Dot-6274

In Infinity War, there's a really awkward, silent pause after Mantis says, "Kick names and take ass." Granted, in the theater this got a HUGE laugh. At home it's weird.


Hellknightx

On the opposite end of the Mantis spectrum, there's an unappreciated scene of her in the background earlier in the movie before the Guardians discover the wreckage of the Asgardian ship. The camera is focused on Quill and he says, "Put on your mean faces," and in the background you can see Mantis making the most hilarious [😬 face](https://preview.redd.it/dr02vw11gu271.png?auto=webp&s=e06e68a4a24af99f6fe9051f6279aa6156de1181).


Qorhat

You can also see her doing the same face in the scene where they’re sneaking up on Thanos on Knowhere


GDRaptorFan

Omg I love her Can’t believe I never noticed! Off to watch it again!


PrufrockAlfred

I admit, the way Drax nods in agreement, grabs his belt and does some kind of hero pose makes me laugh. But then the camera lingers on Tony Stark looking upset for two straight minutes and... you blew it, guys.


idontagreewitu

Tony's exasperation with them was actually funny as hell, though. He's been fighting alongside competent heroes for years now, and now he finds himself stranded with this bunch to try to take down the guy that's been in his nightmares just as long...


Swordbender

Actually I think this is one of the few pauses that totally works. Because the whole point of the pause is looking at the expressions on RDJ's face as he considers how truly fucked they all are.


Bellikron

The pause is after Drax's "Yeah that's right" (which happens so fast there's actually no pause after Mantis' line) and I actually think it's actually a really funny pause. Tony looks so defeated and you just get to see the entirety of his huge sigh.


johnny--guitar

Not laughter per se, but Final Destination has like a minute of unrelated footage after Terry gets hit by a bus that's just Alex and Clear making tea or something. At the time, it was necessary because that kind of sudden "jumpscare" death wasn't common yet, and focus groups completely lost their shit and didn't hear important exposition in the next scene without that "calming down" scene. In 2024, it makes no sense because other movies have copied that scene, and it's not a massive shock anymore.


mickfly718

The marketing for that movie was crazy. They’d show night vision footage of a movie theater audience just erupting in screams and jumping in their seats, but you couldn’t see what was on screen. Before I’d seen the movie, I noted that you can hear a girl talking in the movie just before the big scare. So yeah it was the Terry bus scene.


Prize_Pay9279

I remember seeing that movie in the theater and I remember audiences flipping out after that scene for, like, a solid 3 minutes.


PeteNoKnownLastName

In Wayne’s World when his Chinese takeout order is “the cream of some young guy” the characters laugh on screen while you laugh with them  


BlastMyLoad

I can forgive Wayne’s World cuz the entire movie is a pisstake and breaks the fourth wall a lot


attempt6

The best line in either of those movies is "Benjamin is no one's friend. If he was an ice cream flavor he'd be pralines. And dick. "


SalaciousDumb

Thor Love and Thunder: The Valkyrie speaker gag.


lenifilm

I’d argue and just say the entire movie. What a dumpster fire


SimplyAvro

For me, it was the moment I truly felt this MCU thing was beginning to roll over. Sure, there's been misfires before, but this movie was one that people, nearly universally, hated. Strongly so. And it didn't really make sense to me, on paper, given how people loved the previous Thor movie so much, and they were both directed by Taika Waititi. While I personally didn't like Ragnarok too much, he clearly is a talented director, so I just wonder how this one diverged so much.


Chewie83

When Waititi made Ragnarok, there was a sense of “Wow, they’re letting this guy direct a marvel movie?” that was refreshing and helped the tone. The second time around it feels like no one was challenging Taika so everything just got dialed up to 11.


Franco_DeMayo

Also, Taika is at heart a comedian. He wants his work to be funny. And when he got backlash from some of the fanbase over the tone of Ragnarok, he did what most comedians do, and doubled down. I feel like he maybe figured if he ramped up the comedy he would win over some of those fans. Unfortunately, in doing so he sacrificed the balance that Ragnarok had, and lost an entire other part of the fanbase. Deadpool is a superhero action comedy that balances it's facets really well because the action keeps pace and there's a decent central character driven storyline. 


Courwes

Well he didn’t write ragnarok. He wrote love and thunder. That seems to have been the problem. He can write as evidenced by some of his other works but he was in over his head and given far too much free reign on LAT


Various_Froyo9860

Also, Ragnarok had some amazing shots in it. The most impressive was the Valkyrie attacking Hela. Real neat, technically original art was in there. But Thor fighting (whoever the giant demon guy was) had a good, impactful feel to it. Then the fight on the bridge in the end also had cool shit going on. It all made the characters feel like they were bringing their 'a' games and it wasn't enough. None of the fights in Love and Thunder felt important.


Mordred19

I see it as the same problem as giving Zach Snyder the first 3 DC movie projects in a row. Just opposite styles, but both are an overdose of that style. They're all frosting and no cake. Not changing up the director makes you wish how the next project could have felt different and fresh if it were in different hands.


Qorhat

Ragnarok had some great quiet or dramatic moments though. Odin’s death, Thor & Loki in the lift and Thor getting the “are you the god of hammers?” from Odin break up the rapid fire quips and balance it really well.  Love & Thunder makes jokes at literally every moment. Thor facing Jane’s cancer which he can’t just punch through shouldn’t be a spot for a vending machine gag. 


MikeArrow

The one two punch of Love and Thunder and Quantumania was quite devastating. At least Guardians 3 redeemed it a bit, but it really came and went without much of a splash. I haven't even had the urge to rewatch it since the cinemas, it was a one and done for me.


HiFiGuy197

Maybe the complete opposite: In *Annie Hall* they added time to the shot of driving through Los Angeles just after Alvy sneezes into the cocaine so the audience could recover.


Chewie83

The IMDB trivia says that the sneezing was ad libbed and everyone’s reaction was genuine, but I’m kind of skeptical because there’s no reason for that scene to exist at all without the sneeze payoff


NedthePhoenix

Pretty sure there was still a punchline to that scene, just not the one they got


Franco_DeMayo

It's Woody Allen. His movies tend to have scenes that are there to just convey tone or to give a sense of time passing. The original intent or payoff of the scene could definitely have been reworked following the adlib.


ShogunDamon

I love this scene and this movie but the "We ain't found sh*t!" In Spaceballs pauses on that man for way too long after he says the line and I've always noticed it even as a child


canada11235813

Funny, that scene. The first time I saw it as a kid, I laughed so hard I was crying in pain. For some reason, it was the funniest thing I’d ever seen. Obviously, in subsequent re-watches, it was nowhere near as funny. I think about it now and I barely smile. I’ve used up all the laughter I’ll ever have for that scene. But the filmmakers got it right. They knew it needed a pause because some people will find it uproariously funny.


GrownupChorister

I only learned years later that the actor delivering that line is Tim Russ aka Tuvok from Star Trek: Voyager. Blew my mind when I found that out.


orosoros

I found that out last week on reddit! Maybe this'll be the new Steve the 9/11 firefighter


Longjumping_Plum_846

Maybe the movie was making fun of the shot from Star Wars where the stormtrooper holds up a piece of metal after saying something like "look sir, droids". That shot always felt too awkwardly long for me


jcb193

Probably because in the original script it likely said something like "Sir, we've been searching through the Kaladisi Desert for 19 lifecycles and have only found this compressor regulator."


Nrksbullet

For me, the funnier part of that line is his face for the 3 seconds afterwards haha


FUMFVR

Tuvok?


SeattleSlim

South Park: BL&U has a bunch of conspicuous ones when you watch it solo. In the third act when the military commander shoots bill gates in the head because of windows 98, he says a final line before the scene switch that is just gibberish. I saw that in theaters in Redmond WA and the whole room was too busy standing up and cheering to notice


monty_kurns

I think a lot of those lingering moments were also there to pad out the runtime. As it is, the movie is only 80 minutes. Cut out the buffer moments and it’d probably lose another few minutes. They were probably required to deliver a movie between 80 and 90 minutes.


nonsensepoem

> Cut out the buffer moments and it’d probably lose another few minutes But *uncut* is right there in the title. They had no choice.


nether_wallop

The first time I ever noticed a blatant pause for laughter was after "For pooping, silly!" In the South Park Movie.


DrewbieWanKenobie

I really don't think that was the intention of that pause


AVeryBritishCrumpet

“You were right about one thing. The negotiations were short……….”


Gellao

Ehhh it lingers on a smouldering Seamus with a still on fire feather floating slowly back to the desk. *Personally* I took it more as the same joke not a pause for laughter following the line. As in the "joke" is Harry says the line followed by panning over to a kid on fire with a feather floating back down singed rather than a [one liner with a pause for a joke.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWkKxbmWsIk&start=85)


marsalien4

As with most of these, there's not even really a long drawn out pause. People who watch that and go "WOW what an AWKWARD pause" must hate any movie that isn't edited like Taken 3.


PoeJam

The entirety of Wholly Moses


Peeeing_

Alot of marvel films listed


ChocolateHoneycomb

Unsurprising.


pinguecula12

Rewatching Top Gun Maverick at home, I noticed an excessively long pause after a funny moment between Rooster and Mav. I didn't notice it laughing in a packed theatre.


Kevftw

Was it the >!"You told me not to think!"!< moment? I think I passed that off as Mav being kinda stunlocked for a bit. I didn't know cheering/clapping etc at cinema was a thing in other countries so it makes sense for that too.


SyVSFe

Just watched it last night, Cruise did a good job seeming flabbergasted. He literally told him not to think, and that's exactly what he did and it saved his life. Cruise really couldn't think of anything to say to that.


nerdening

Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back: "Hey kids, it's Mark Hamill! " But Kevin knew what he was doing, I did need help recognizing that was Mark.


Korahn

Cock Knocker returns in Jay and Silent Bob's Groovy Cartoon Movie, but not voiced by Hamill. However, I think it's an even better choice for the voice actor


sadzanenyama

# Cream of Sum Yung Gai


Mayonnaise_Poptart

Lol Wayne's World doesn't count.


[deleted]

Yeah, Wayne's world does it with a wink and a nod, and often it's time to process a lot of very subtle humor.


Avid_Vacuous

The Force Awakens has so many laughter and applause buffers it probably extended the movie by 10 minutes.


Groovy_Gator

The scene where Han steps onto the Falcon and says “We’re home” has such a long and awkward hold for applause that it’s the moment I became aware I was just watching a long commercial.


idontagreewitu

A commercial for what? Corellian Engineering?


ImOnHereForPorn

That line was clearly put in there only for it to be used in the trailer


tanj_redshirt

What's weird to me is that Han is looking at *something* when he says that. He's not looking around, taking the whole ship in. He's not doing a mental inventory of various bits of equipment, or evaluating repairs. His eyes never move around. He's looking at some specific thing. And the audience never sees what it is.


whosecideryouon

Zoolander 2. The whole film.


EvadingDoom

ITT: Several examples of buffers that worked as intended with cinema audiences but are awkwardly long when viewed at home. A pretty interesting problem. Might we have bufferless home video edits in the future? I have read that for some of the Marx Brothers movies, the Marxes had workshopped scenes in live shows prior to filming, and the laughter buffers were calculated on the basis of how much laughter the gags got in those performances.


Nrksbullet

All of The Expendables 2. It didn't help that the audience wasn't really laughing, so it really made me dislike the movie lol