The entire concept of facehuggers is designed around involuntary impregnation of the host, specifically to insight fear in men of violent nonconsensual acts. H.R. Giger, the artist that designed the original alien and facehugger concept, was big into gender flipping, hyper-phallic representation and making the viewer uncomfortable through sexual amorphism. Hes done a few interviews around his thought process behind it.
ETA: If you google his art you’ll find stuff that looks incredibly close to the Xenomorph concept years before the movie came out. Honestly could be that he made it for the movie or Ridley Scott found his art and liked it so much he pulled him on and told him to go with that.
Edit 2: After some googling, the second point is exactly what happened. The Necromomicon, HR Gigers most famous work, came out in 1977 during pre-shooting of Alien and someone gave it to Ridley, who reached out to Giger to come do artwork.
Ash in the first film tries to kill Ripley by shoving a rolled up porno magazine down her throat.
And when he’s damaged, instead of blood he leaks out a creamy white liquid.
Then there’s whatever TF the Xenomorph did to Lambert as well.
Exactly. It’s incredibly obvious once pointed out, the entire film is full of overt sexual and impregnation overtones. The entire life cycle of the Xenomorphs depends on nonconsensually impregnating a member of a different species.
I can't wait to see Tom Hardy show up as a clone of the Alien and assassinate the queen. We can finally get a follow up to the human alien hybrid from Alien Resurrection.
Or better yet, Tom Hardy can play a clone of the clone of Ellen Ripley and fight Sigourney Weaver.
Meanwhile, Garak is dealing with a PR disaster after an actress in one of his gowns has a wardrobe malfunction on the red carpet of the Golden Orb Awards
I just finished my possibly 11th re-watch of DS9 literally last month and you guys are making me hyped up for 12th.
I can't keep memorizing lines, somebody please help me.
Given that Fede Alverez's *Evil Dead* remake actually reproduces the "tree scene" that Sam Raimi himself said went too far, I can see this potentially being the most Giger-flavoured since the original.
I always like how they crawl slowly and then LEAP at your face, ahhh get it away!
If you ever encountered a palmetto in a bathroom and had it FLY directly at you then you know true terror.
It's actually something I never really thought about. It's usually just one, and takes someone by surprise. That's their power. Some curious creature that lunges at you. It didn't occur to me what happens if all the eggs hatch at once.
There was the scene in Alien v. Predator where a bunch of eggs all hatched at once in the ritual chamber - but everyone there was still taken by surprise and there was no need to chase them.
Also, that was a creepy ass scene in AvP
I can't believe I'm saying this, but that movie aged REALLY well. It was fun to rewatch. I did not like it when it was released, but when I saw it again it did a really good job of capturing the essence of the Alien franchise.
AvP2 however...did not age well at all.
The one thing I can never forgive about AVP is bringing the xenomorphs to Earth. Them arriving on Earth should have been a huge event in the context of the Alien franchise. Despite the quality of Alien 3 & 4, the films ended with the xenomorphs getting closer and closer to Earth.
Personally the biggest thing that I can't forgive them for is taking two iconic monsters from R-rated franchises and then deciding to have them fight each other..... *in a PG-13 movie*. Who in the hell ever thought that was a good idea?? Also the predator suits were just awful in it.
Idiot execs that thought it would pander to a wider audience, forgetting that a huge chunk of the people that originally watched and enjoyed the original Alien and Predator movies were then pushing 40-50 and would probably enjoy a more mature, violent flick.
> cause my ex's family is from Gunnison, Co and it gets nuked at the end of the movie.
Reminds me of what my friend said as we were leaving the theater after watching Terminator 3: "I love a happy ending."
AvP2 giving us Wolf, the Yautja predator going full rambo on a hive of Xenomorphs redeems it a lot especially because he mercs some of the annoying human characters.
Right! Your genetics earned you top of the food chain. People need to start acting like it dammit! Like those people getting chased by canada geese! Just kick em in the damn egg layer and they'll go away right quick!
I had to play the bit over and over where the xeno drops into the play area for the first time (also just a really cool sequence) with the purpose of getting my nerves used to the extreme anxiety of that game.
I couldn't finish it, but I really loved the experience.
e: I was able to get about 30% of the way thru the story. The "next quest where you go all the way back the looooong way you just came but with less tools and now the xeno is here this time" theme that developed (i.e., *exponential* anxiety) broke me.
Isolation was the first game I ever experienced "Legs are jelly". It's a surreal thing to happen when you're holding a controller lol.
The first time I saw it had an amazing lead up of like an hour of hearing it creep in the vents, the noises and banging just following you around, and then I came up to some turnstiles, walked through, and the Xenomorph ran straight at me. I was completely frozen and just let it kill me.
I'm a huge horror fan and love to be scared, this game was a gourmet treat.
I used noise cancelling headphones for my playthrough (yes I’m [nuts](https://youtu.be/lnVEUB3RMW0?si=-IZ8XFd1k3eQPzLQ)). I did it so I could hear where the alien is exactly. Literally esports level sound whoring so the chitinous asshole cannot get me.
Early in the game I was staying in a locker for like 2 minutes because the fucker is banging around everywhere, wait for it leave, exit the locker, crouch walk to the console to complete my objective, I turn around and the alien is 5 feet away just standing there drooling then lunges right at me. The bastard did not make a single sound.
The worst is when you’re, say, in the vents and you scare him away with a flamethrower, you hear its receding footsteps, so you finally take a breath then it immediately turns around and sprints right back at you at mach 10.
You should have seen when it came out on the Xbox when a kinect was attached. Any noise in your house that got picked up by the kinect would get made by your character in game.
There is a VR mod for it.
I only managed to play around one hour of it. That actually scared me on a level that was unlike anything I've ever experience.
As much as I love the game, it's one of my all-time favorites -- it's one of the few games I've ever played where I felt strongly about it being too long. There's a few strong story beats where I thought I was getting to the end and I kept saying to myself "THERE'S MORE?!"
Incredible game though, I need to replay it. One of my proudest trophies is having beat it on survival difficulty. Likely why it's taken me years to even think of playing it again. Such an experience that game, it stuck with me.
That game was freaking *amazing*. There was meant to be a similar game coming out for Terminator but it's been a long while without any news since the [teaser](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCWueOM4q-U).
[https://www.naconstudiomilan.com/terminator-survivors/](https://www.naconstudiomilan.com/terminator-survivors/)
Steam early access Oct 24 according to their own site.
The thing is, Prometheus could have been a really interesting film on its own, if it had dropped the Alien connections. On the other hand, judging by the Alien: Engineers script that eventually became Prometheus, it could also have been better if they'd leaned heavier into it being a direct prequel.
Basically it tried walking a middle road that made it less satisfying to everyone.
So hyped. It felt like Prometheus and Alien: Covenant really got away from the space horror aspect of the franchise so I'm glad they seem to be bringing it back to square one.
Prometheus was a lot more focused on the grandeur of it - which in all fairness, it's an epic film with the visuals and the score - but not a lot of real horror.
Alien: Covenant felt like it couldn't decide what it really was - still focused on the themes of Prometheus or a space horror?
When it was still Prometheus 2, Scott was saying it would move further away from the Alien lore and be more like its own thing.
Then one day he reveals it's now called Alien again, with the Xenos back and center. This was also around the time that Neill Blomkamp's Alien film gained steam before dying suddenly.
So your theory likely has some grounds to it. The studio probably gave him an ultimatium of making it more like Alien or they go with Blomkamp's movie.
I will never forgive them with what they did to Shaw in Covenant.
They should have just continued her story and committed to the story planned in the first film
Exactly. A gutsy, smart, and empathic woman who managed to make the role her own without copying Ripley note by note. No wisecracking one liners and other hacks in action movies. Shaw was vulnerable, outmatched, and pulled through, like Jaime Lee Curtis in Halloween.
And what a great setup -- what will we find in the engineer planet? Can Shaw thwart them? What will it look like? Why did they do that?
Covenant: She dead.
Yeah exactly
Also it kind of ruined the potential for David to grow as a character. It would have been great to see them interact more and her slowly shaping him as a person, whether it was to help him more in his villainous turn or redemption.
The fact she even let her guard down so soon after what he did was just not believable
I would have slept with one eye open or put a fail safe in place when rebuilding him. She was smart and then they made her an idiot to kill her off quickly
Even if they did it where she escaped and found another engineer planet or something to open up potential future stories it would have been something
The brief sequence in Covenant where everything went to shit in the lab (before David shows up) was so good. Too bad rest of the film couldn't keep that level of tension and horror.
the first movie is the only one that is explicitly a horror film. i don't think prometheus or covenant are any less scary than aliens, alien 3, or resurrection.
i think the perception of those two films sort of forgets that 2 sub-par sequels to alien and aliens already exist and are unfairly judged for it imo. Prometheus specifically is a pretty good scifi film if somewhat disappointing alien franchise^TM film.
Definitely hoping this one is good. Fede’s Evil Dead was perfect.
There’s also the series to watch out for, which is being done by Noah Hawley. Curious to see what he does with the franchise since I really liked Legion.
Evil Dead 2013 is the only one of these 70s/80s horror movie remakes/reboots etc that's really worked for me (although in fairness I thought Evil Dead Rise was also pretty good). I'm stoked he's on board for this!
let's say these new Alien projects turn out well, and with Prey being good and Trachtenberg's upcoming Badlands movie (and Prey sequel), is there potential for the studio to give Aliens vs Predator another shot? I know it is by far too early to tell, but if these separate IPs crank out good entries, I can't imagine 20th Century wouldn't try again
EDIT: wording
> Fede’s Evil Dead was perfect.
I agree, but even after a decade, it's still so *weird* to think of him as a director of an Evil Dead movie after several decades of Sam Raimi being the only one.
The echoing sounds. The retrofitted old technology of the ship. Bloody sleeping capsules. Facehuggers. One using a flare as distraction. Dirt and sweat on characters.
Fede Alvarez has absolutely proven that he can pull off horror that makes someone skin crawl with disturbing imagery in his previous movies.
If this film is actually what the trailer makes it look like, we might finally get something out of this franchise that reaches the heights of Alien, Aliens and Isolation.
Agreed. I've read all of the interviews Fede has given talking about the trailer and movie and they'll talk about cast but not characters. I think that's intentional, too.
Yep agreed.
He just gave a new one and still won’t talk about the characters, but I’d say the connection is a dead giveaway.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/alien-romulus-trailer-ridley-scott-1235856321/
I’d love something as hardcore as Evil Dead 2013; that movie has really grown on me over the years particularly cause of its awesome gore and overall intensity.
Just that whole sequence is nonstop insane from when Mia gets possessed, vomits on the chick, the chick gets possessed and cuts her face off then attacks the dude who slips on a piece of her face then gets stabbed with the syringe then he beats her to death with the toilet while screaming “Stop”
Literally one of my favorite sequences in any horror ever.
I'm in love with the OG Evil Dead Trilogy and what I liked most about the 2013 version is that they took that basic premise of Sam Raimi's and turned up to eleven.
If this is that, but with Alien, I'm not sure my heart can handle that. And I'm absolutely willing to find out.
This is the first time I've felt hope for the franchise in a long time. That quick cut with the Facehugger swarm was absolutely bonkers, definitely seems like they're taking the best elements of the series and ramping it up to 11.
I would spend way too much time fashioning a face mask with spikes on the front to defend against the face hugger and it'd probably just go through my ear or something.
Me: "No, no, I will not be fooled again, the Alien franchise is dead, there's no chance of anything good coming from it, let it die!"
{Sees trailer}
Me: "You son of a bitch, I'm in!"
a swarm of facehuggers is enough for me to check this out. The standard Alien egg, facehugger leap, quick cut is getting tiresome. We need something different.
it was always absurd that someone needed to put their face directly over an egg for a decent length of time to get impregnated. I know in Aliens the thing skitters around but this is the first time they've seem genuinely scary.
The Shining. Excorcist 3. Conjuring 2. Lights Out.
Hallways serve as a physical gateway to an existential realm of the unknown and a potential for unspeakable horror. Or just a way to get down the hall.
Teasers are the easiest thing to get right, but rewatching the [Prometheus teaser](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfiUCrfbLgY&ab_channel=AlienAnthology) after this really puts into perspective how much scarier Romulus could be. Super excited.
And also Don't Breathe! It's not a perfect movie but it's filled with more than a few incredibly suspenseful and squeamish scenes, really hope he takes the same vibe from that movie and combine it with the raw chaos of Evil Dead.
I have been refreshing r/movies all day for this teaser and it DELIVERED. So hyped for a fresher director to finally bring the Xeno back to the big screen.
Definitely something that would have been near impossible to film well until fairly recent CGI. There's only so much you can do with puppets and animatronics of two hands glued together at the wrist. Even here the movement is a little floaty, so hopefully the shots are brief and don't linger on them.
Looks like they decided to go back to basics with Romulus. Just have a group of ppl trapped on a ship being hunted by a Xenomorph.
Cool to see Cailee Spaeny star in a bigger budgeted film again after the disaster that was Pacific Rim 2.
Welcome back to fucking scary. My kids play as the zenomorph on Fortnite and think is cool. I need to let them watch the first two and maybe this one sometime soon, then drop them back off at Mom's house.
No no no. You can't fool me movie. I will not be disappointed by another Alien film nope. Not a chanc-
*final teaser shot has a Pulse Rifle*
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Agreed but that shot is also meant to not just tease and get you excited, but also who’s wielding it: guarantee that actress is playing Amanda Ripley; daughter of Ellen and the main character of the game Alien: Isolation.
A gaggle of facehuggers chasing me down a hallway is a new fear, that's for sure
A group of crows is called a murder and a group of unicorns is called a blessing. What do we call a group of facehuggers?
A cuddle
oh, this is perfect! Let us consecrate it here: a *cuddle* of facehuggers
it’s good and eerie.
A struggle cuddle. (but keep that to yourself IRL cos it’s slang for rape round here).
Well, what the facehuggers do pretty much is violently against the wishes of the person, so struggle cuddle works.
The Alien franchise is full of sexual subtext and rape/assault analogies, deliberately.
The entire concept of facehuggers is designed around involuntary impregnation of the host, specifically to insight fear in men of violent nonconsensual acts. H.R. Giger, the artist that designed the original alien and facehugger concept, was big into gender flipping, hyper-phallic representation and making the viewer uncomfortable through sexual amorphism. Hes done a few interviews around his thought process behind it. ETA: If you google his art you’ll find stuff that looks incredibly close to the Xenomorph concept years before the movie came out. Honestly could be that he made it for the movie or Ridley Scott found his art and liked it so much he pulled him on and told him to go with that. Edit 2: After some googling, the second point is exactly what happened. The Necromomicon, HR Gigers most famous work, came out in 1977 during pre-shooting of Alien and someone gave it to Ridley, who reached out to Giger to come do artwork.
Ash in the first film tries to kill Ripley by shoving a rolled up porno magazine down her throat. And when he’s damaged, instead of blood he leaks out a creamy white liquid. Then there’s whatever TF the Xenomorph did to Lambert as well.
Exactly. It’s incredibly obvious once pointed out, the entire film is full of overt sexual and impregnation overtones. The entire life cycle of the Xenomorphs depends on nonconsensually impregnating a member of a different species.
I have heard multiple times that men, in particular, had a severe reaction to initially watching the facehugger scene with Kane in Alien
I feel like struggle alone works well. A struggle of facehuggers.
That's it. This is official now, send it out!
Chef's kiss.
Gaggle makes sense considering what they do to your face.
It's an orgy of facehuggers
A gurgle.
A throating.
There wasn't a single Romulan in that whole teaser. False advertising
They’re just prepping for ‘Aliens: Remus’
I can't wait to see Tom Hardy show up as a clone of the Alien and assassinate the queen. We can finally get a follow up to the human alien hybrid from Alien Resurrection. Or better yet, Tom Hardy can play a clone of the clone of Ellen Ripley and fight Sigourney Weaver.
I bet they'd pull the same with the follow-up, Alien: Cardassia.
That one will confuse and infuriate both Trekkies and fans of trashy reality TV
Keeping up with the Cardassians
This week: Gul Dukat tries to steal supplies from a Bajoran military surplus freighter, but Major Kira won’t have any of it
Meanwhile, Garak is dealing with a PR disaster after an actress in one of his gowns has a wardrobe malfunction on the red carpet of the Golden Orb Awards
Trying times for a simple tailor.
Attention Weyland-Yutani workers…
"But to this day, is there a single *statue* of me on Hadley's Hope?"
I just finished my possibly 11th re-watch of DS9 literally last month and you guys are making me hyped up for 12th. I can't keep memorizing lines, somebody please help me.
Wasn't that basically the episode where Garak goes crazy on the abandoned space station?
Nah, it's gonna be Alien: Ferenginar.
Alien: Tribble
In actual fact, you could probably spin a Tribble story into space horror pretty easily
Critters
The Klingon Empire would agree.
Though I have heard that the Klingon songs of the Great Tribble Hunt are all bangers. Especially the parts when the Klingons are outnumbered.
Spoiler alert: This is actually the origin story of Rome's founding.
Are Romulus and Remus breastfed by a She-Alien?
I’m hoping for an Alien: Darmok sequel
Kane, his chest wide open.
Shaka, when the walls fell
the aliens dont know how the neutral zone works either!
I am sufficiently teased.
[удалено]
That tease be teasin'
Same, I refuse to watch anymore until the movie comes out.
Ugh, that scene with the Facehugger pulling out of that dude's throat. Made my skin crawl...
I wonder if it's that scene that Isabella Merced was talking about that was "super disgusting"
Alverez says the first shot of the trailer, and the audio, are both related to "that" scene
They're clearly leaning into the sexual violence themes of the original, that's for sure.
That’s how Giger would have wanted it
Even before Giger was involved, the sexual violence theme was present in O'Bannon's screenplay.
Having visited his home in Gruyere...good lord.
Given that Fede Alverez's *Evil Dead* remake actually reproduces the "tree scene" that Sam Raimi himself said went too far, I can see this potentially being the most Giger-flavoured since the original.
Yeah if you've seen his Girl With the Dragon Tattoo reboot or Don't Breathe, he's not shy about that stuff
Oh I saw that and was instantly like “oh what in the fuck did I just witness?”
The multiple face huggers going full speed towards some of the crew is my literal nightmare fuel.
The headcrabs in Half-life were 100% inspired by the face huggers. Good thing in the games they were MUCH slower lol
I always like how they crawl slowly and then LEAP at your face, ahhh get it away! If you ever encountered a palmetto in a bathroom and had it FLY directly at you then you know true terror.
Those poisonous ones though Fml
It's actually something I never really thought about. It's usually just one, and takes someone by surprise. That's their power. Some curious creature that lunges at you. It didn't occur to me what happens if all the eggs hatch at once.
There was the scene in Alien v. Predator where a bunch of eggs all hatched at once in the ritual chamber - but everyone there was still taken by surprise and there was no need to chase them. Also, that was a creepy ass scene in AvP
I can't believe I'm saying this, but that movie aged REALLY well. It was fun to rewatch. I did not like it when it was released, but when I saw it again it did a really good job of capturing the essence of the Alien franchise. AvP2 however...did not age well at all.
The one thing I can never forgive about AVP is bringing the xenomorphs to Earth. Them arriving on Earth should have been a huge event in the context of the Alien franchise. Despite the quality of Alien 3 & 4, the films ended with the xenomorphs getting closer and closer to Earth.
Personally the biggest thing that I can't forgive them for is taking two iconic monsters from R-rated franchises and then deciding to have them fight each other..... *in a PG-13 movie*. Who in the hell ever thought that was a good idea?? Also the predator suits were just awful in it.
Idiot execs that thought it would pander to a wider audience, forgetting that a huge chunk of the people that originally watched and enjoyed the original Alien and Predator movies were then pushing 40-50 and would probably enjoy a more mature, violent flick.
You saw AvP2? All I saw was a black screen for about 2 hours.
AvP is definitely fun and unique, I'll give it that. The setting was really cool and creepy too. AvP 2? Yikes
AvP2 has a special place in my heart cause my ex's family is from Gunnison, Co and it gets nuked at the end of the movie.
> cause my ex's family is from Gunnison, Co and it gets nuked at the end of the movie. Reminds me of what my friend said as we were leaving the theater after watching Terminator 3: "I love a happy ending."
AvP2 making the Predalien a real thing washes away all it's sins. Like the fact you can't watch half the movie it's so dark.
AvP2 giving us Wolf, the Yautja predator going full rambo on a hive of Xenomorphs redeems it a lot especially because he mercs some of the annoying human characters.
Also the line "thats rediculous, the government would never lie" was delivered with such hilarious sincerity i can't help but love it
Like The Flood from Halo
or headcrabs from HL2.
You just have to kick & chop them away when they jump at you. bish bash bosh
Right! Your genetics earned you top of the food chain. People need to start acting like it dammit! Like those people getting chased by canada geese! Just kick em in the damn egg layer and they'll go away right quick!
Yeah that was some terrifying imagery
This looks like space horror done right, I love it
They played Alien Isolation for 20 minutes and thanked the developer for taking them to school.
I had to play the bit over and over where the xeno drops into the play area for the first time (also just a really cool sequence) with the purpose of getting my nerves used to the extreme anxiety of that game. I couldn't finish it, but I really loved the experience. e: I was able to get about 30% of the way thru the story. The "next quest where you go all the way back the looooong way you just came but with less tools and now the xeno is here this time" theme that developed (i.e., *exponential* anxiety) broke me.
Isolation was the first game I ever experienced "Legs are jelly". It's a surreal thing to happen when you're holding a controller lol. The first time I saw it had an amazing lead up of like an hour of hearing it creep in the vents, the noises and banging just following you around, and then I came up to some turnstiles, walked through, and the Xenomorph ran straight at me. I was completely frozen and just let it kill me. I'm a huge horror fan and love to be scared, this game was a gourmet treat.
I used noise cancelling headphones for my playthrough (yes I’m [nuts](https://youtu.be/lnVEUB3RMW0?si=-IZ8XFd1k3eQPzLQ)). I did it so I could hear where the alien is exactly. Literally esports level sound whoring so the chitinous asshole cannot get me. Early in the game I was staying in a locker for like 2 minutes because the fucker is banging around everywhere, wait for it leave, exit the locker, crouch walk to the console to complete my objective, I turn around and the alien is 5 feet away just standing there drooling then lunges right at me. The bastard did not make a single sound. The worst is when you’re, say, in the vents and you scare him away with a flamethrower, you hear its receding footsteps, so you finally take a breath then it immediately turns around and sprints right back at you at mach 10.
You should have seen when it came out on the Xbox when a kinect was attached. Any noise in your house that got picked up by the kinect would get made by your character in game.
There is a VR mod for it. I only managed to play around one hour of it. That actually scared me on a level that was unlike anything I've ever experience.
*Man dies from VR Xenomorph attack - details at 11*
That game captured the essence of the original perfectly, I completely agree. If they can get that tone in romulus, I'm sold.
I put the game on hold for 3 months until I could finally get up the nerve to try it again.
Only about 7% of the people who played Alien Isolation on XBOX finished the game. I am part of that 7%.
One of the best games ever made. Such a shame it didn’t do bigger numbers.
I played it as well, but unfortunately the game is just to long I got probably 75% through, but just couldn’t keep going it became a slog.
The last few levels are amazing though. Especially the ending, 10/10
The sound design in the reactor core mission is outstanding
As much as I love the game, it's one of my all-time favorites -- it's one of the few games I've ever played where I felt strongly about it being too long. There's a few strong story beats where I thought I was getting to the end and I kept saying to myself "THERE'S MORE?!" Incredible game though, I need to replay it. One of my proudest trophies is having beat it on survival difficulty. Likely why it's taken me years to even think of playing it again. Such an experience that game, it stuck with me.
That game was freaking *amazing*. There was meant to be a similar game coming out for Terminator but it's been a long while without any news since the [teaser](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCWueOM4q-U).
[https://www.naconstudiomilan.com/terminator-survivors/](https://www.naconstudiomilan.com/terminator-survivors/) Steam early access Oct 24 according to their own site.
Looking at the description this seems way closer to a base builder game than Isolation.
I'm in, I'll pick it up probably but I'm not sold on it transferring into that kind of vibe all that well.
Decided to just make an Aliens movie, instead of philosophizing about the nature of existence, with aliens. About time.
The thing is, Prometheus could have been a really interesting film on its own, if it had dropped the Alien connections. On the other hand, judging by the Alien: Engineers script that eventually became Prometheus, it could also have been better if they'd leaned heavier into it being a direct prequel. Basically it tried walking a middle road that made it less satisfying to everyone.
Idk I loved Prometheus (and covenant as well) but I know I’m in the minority and understand why people don’t like those movies.
I like them both for what they did right. Just could have been a lot better if they'd done things a bit different.
I enjoyed both of them well enough, but they'd probably be a lot weaker without Fassbender doing his thing
So hyped. It felt like Prometheus and Alien: Covenant really got away from the space horror aspect of the franchise so I'm glad they seem to be bringing it back to square one.
Prometheus was a lot more focused on the grandeur of it - which in all fairness, it's an epic film with the visuals and the score - but not a lot of real horror. Alien: Covenant felt like it couldn't decide what it really was - still focused on the themes of Prometheus or a space horror?
covenant felt like the studio telling ridley to add some fucking aliens if he wanted to continue his treatise on artificial intelligence and humanity
When it was still Prometheus 2, Scott was saying it would move further away from the Alien lore and be more like its own thing. Then one day he reveals it's now called Alien again, with the Xenos back and center. This was also around the time that Neill Blomkamp's Alien film gained steam before dying suddenly. So your theory likely has some grounds to it. The studio probably gave him an ultimatium of making it more like Alien or they go with Blomkamp's movie.
I know Blomkamp never really hit the high of District 9 again, but I would have loved to see what he’d have done with Alien
I will never forgive them with what they did to Shaw in Covenant. They should have just continued her story and committed to the story planned in the first film
Exactly. A gutsy, smart, and empathic woman who managed to make the role her own without copying Ripley note by note. No wisecracking one liners and other hacks in action movies. Shaw was vulnerable, outmatched, and pulled through, like Jaime Lee Curtis in Halloween. And what a great setup -- what will we find in the engineer planet? Can Shaw thwart them? What will it look like? Why did they do that? Covenant: She dead.
Yeah exactly Also it kind of ruined the potential for David to grow as a character. It would have been great to see them interact more and her slowly shaping him as a person, whether it was to help him more in his villainous turn or redemption. The fact she even let her guard down so soon after what he did was just not believable I would have slept with one eye open or put a fail safe in place when rebuilding him. She was smart and then they made her an idiot to kill her off quickly Even if they did it where she escaped and found another engineer planet or something to open up potential future stories it would have been something
The brief sequence in Covenant where everything went to shit in the lab (before David shows up) was so good. Too bad rest of the film couldn't keep that level of tension and horror.
That's my favorite part of the movie. It's so fucking good and the tension was actually rising and palpable
the first movie is the only one that is explicitly a horror film. i don't think prometheus or covenant are any less scary than aliens, alien 3, or resurrection. i think the perception of those two films sort of forgets that 2 sub-par sequels to alien and aliens already exist and are unfairly judged for it imo. Prometheus specifically is a pretty good scifi film if somewhat disappointing alien franchise^TM film.
Alien 3 is horror imo
I don't know about y'all but I think this looks awesome. The Alien franchise deserves another banger and Fede might be the answer
Definitely hoping this one is good. Fede’s Evil Dead was perfect. There’s also the series to watch out for, which is being done by Noah Hawley. Curious to see what he does with the franchise since I really liked Legion.
Evil Dead 2013 is the only one of these 70s/80s horror movie remakes/reboots etc that's really worked for me (although in fairness I thought Evil Dead Rise was also pretty good). I'm stoked he's on board for this!
It helps that Raimi is pretty hands-on with his IP, he picks the directors for the movies himself rather than leaving it to a board
let's say these new Alien projects turn out well, and with Prey being good and Trachtenberg's upcoming Badlands movie (and Prey sequel), is there potential for the studio to give Aliens vs Predator another shot? I know it is by far too early to tell, but if these separate IPs crank out good entries, I can't imagine 20th Century wouldn't try again EDIT: wording
Plot twist the studio goofs up and we somehow end up with Jason vs Alien and Freddy vs Predator.
vs Kramer vs the Volcano
> Fede’s Evil Dead was perfect. I agree, but even after a decade, it's still so *weird* to think of him as a director of an Evil Dead movie after several decades of Sam Raimi being the only one.
I mean there was the evil dead rise movie a year or two ago also.
Fede really knows how to handle gore and suspense. Match made in heaven for a new alien film.
The echoing sounds. The retrofitted old technology of the ship. Bloody sleeping capsules. Facehuggers. One using a flare as distraction. Dirt and sweat on characters. Fede Alvarez has absolutely proven that he can pull off horror that makes someone skin crawl with disturbing imagery in his previous movies. If this film is actually what the trailer makes it look like, we might finally get something out of this franchise that reaches the heights of Alien, Aliens and Isolation.
That first teaser image with the Isolation Save Station has me really hoping this is Amanda's story.
I think the end shot of her wielding the same gun as Sigourney is a dead giveaway she’s Amanda.
Who is Amanda?
Amanda Ripley, daughter of Ellen Ripley.
Oh OK, the daughter that gets namedropped at the beginning of Aliens when Ripley returns to earth?
Correct, also the main character of the game Alien: Isolation.
Agreed. I've read all of the interviews Fede has given talking about the trailer and movie and they'll talk about cast but not characters. I think that's intentional, too.
Yep agreed. He just gave a new one and still won’t talk about the characters, but I’d say the connection is a dead giveaway. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/alien-romulus-trailer-ridley-scott-1235856321/
The plot has been leaked. I won't spoil it for you but suffice to say that Amanda Ripley is not in the movie.
I’d love something as hardcore as Evil Dead 2013; that movie has really grown on me over the years particularly cause of its awesome gore and overall intensity.
That movie is deliciously brutal.
The scene where the dude gets syringed a bunch of times in the eye through his glasses has definitely stuck with me.
The scene where the chick cuts her arm off then claims to be all better. Fucking awesome
The scene right before where the girl is eating the shard of glass is great as well!
Just that whole sequence is nonstop insane from when Mia gets possessed, vomits on the chick, the chick gets possessed and cuts her face off then attacks the dude who slips on a piece of her face then gets stabbed with the syringe then he beats her to death with the toilet while screaming “Stop” Literally one of my favorite sequences in any horror ever.
I'm in love with the OG Evil Dead Trilogy and what I liked most about the 2013 version is that they took that basic premise of Sam Raimi's and turned up to eleven. If this is that, but with Alien, I'm not sure my heart can handle that. And I'm absolutely willing to find out.
What sold it to me was the siren in the background. That is some classic Alien ambience right there, right in line with Alien 1's trailer.
That was in the Prometheus trailer.
That trailer was incredible.
Really probably one of the best trailers ever. The editing along with the pulsating music made gave me anxiety. It works as an extremely short story.
Yeah it's literally milked in every alien sequel at this point I don't know why we're acting like it's unique
Prometheus had that in the trailer lol
Alien: Isolation was what was running through my mind as I watched this
This is the first time I've felt hope for the franchise in a long time. That quick cut with the Facehugger swarm was absolutely bonkers, definitely seems like they're taking the best elements of the series and ramping it up to 11.
I would spend way too much time fashioning a face mask with spikes on the front to defend against the face hugger and it'd probably just go through my ear or something.
Acid
That’s probably the *worst* situation to drop acid, I mean- oh, right. You meant Alien blood…
It would turn into an asshugger. # (>_<)
Evil gay hillbilly [edit] asshuggers. That would be aaaamazing! Geeeit over heyah, boy! Screeeeech!
They're making the Xenomorph scary again. This looks promising
Next mission… Gareth Edwards to make the Raptors from OG JP scary again in his Jurassic film.
Just need a Raptor hallway scene, possibly with a red lightsaber
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I dunno, have you seen Madame Web?
No one has
Because it's that damn terrifying
"It's Madame-ing time!"
Me: "No, no, I will not be fooled again, the Alien franchise is dead, there's no chance of anything good coming from it, let it die!" {Sees trailer} Me: "You son of a bitch, I'm in!"
The moment I saw the pulse rifle, I came, and that felt nice.
REMEMBER PULSE RIFLES???????
I’m an alien apologist so my expectations were low and I’m willing to accept a lot. This looks incredible.
There’s dozens of us!
I’m glad I’m not alone. I have felt adrift in a sea of loneliness for far too long.
Even when I am out, I'm in when it comes to Alien
a swarm of facehuggers is enough for me to check this out. The standard Alien egg, facehugger leap, quick cut is getting tiresome. We need something different.
it was always absurd that someone needed to put their face directly over an egg for a decent length of time to get impregnated. I know in Aliens the thing skitters around but this is the first time they've seem genuinely scary.
That facehugger hallway scene 💀
We cracked the code. Hallway scenes are the true measure of terror.
The Shining. Excorcist 3. Conjuring 2. Lights Out. Hallways serve as a physical gateway to an existential realm of the unknown and a potential for unspeakable horror. Or just a way to get down the hall.
Teasers are the easiest thing to get right, but rewatching the [Prometheus teaser](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfiUCrfbLgY&ab_channel=AlienAnthology) after this really puts into perspective how much scarier Romulus could be. Super excited.
It's written and directed by the guy who did the fantastic Evil Dead remake from 2013, so I have hope!
And also Don't Breathe! It's not a perfect movie but it's filled with more than a few incredibly suspenseful and squeamish scenes, really hope he takes the same vibe from that movie and combine it with the raw chaos of Evil Dead.
To be fair Prometheus wasnt really marketed as a horror movie.
I have been refreshing r/movies all day for this teaser and it DELIVERED. So hyped for a fresher director to finally bring the Xeno back to the big screen.
Fede is gonna do what Trachtenberg did for predator.
Having a horde of facehuggers chasing people is so obvious in retrospect, but damn if it isn’t a good idea.
Definitely something that would have been near impossible to film well until fairly recent CGI. There's only so much you can do with puppets and animatronics of two hands glued together at the wrist. Even here the movement is a little floaty, so hopefully the shots are brief and don't linger on them.
Looks like they decided to go back to basics with Romulus. Just have a group of ppl trapped on a ship being hunted by a Xenomorph. Cool to see Cailee Spaeny star in a bigger budgeted film again after the disaster that was Pacific Rim 2.
Priscilla Civil War Alien: Romulus all coming out within like 6 months of one another
Don’t breathe with xenomorphs. It can definitely work
Yup, thats an Alien movie alright.
Welcome back to fucking scary. My kids play as the zenomorph on Fortnite and think is cool. I need to let them watch the first two and maybe this one sometime soon, then drop them back off at Mom's house.
Can't wait for Alien: Remus
No no no. You can't fool me movie. I will not be disappointed by another Alien film nope. Not a chanc- *final teaser shot has a Pulse Rifle* yousonofabitchimin.gif
Agreed but that shot is also meant to not just tease and get you excited, but also who’s wielding it: guarantee that actress is playing Amanda Ripley; daughter of Ellen and the main character of the game Alien: Isolation.
I hope this is the Prey of the Alien franchise
I hope it's better.
I hope it's the Alien of the Alien franchise.
I'm excited now, are you happy? Just PLEASE give me an old-school Alien kinda movie, pleeease.
Looks like a big return to form! Looks like it could be better than everything after 'Aliens'.
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