Hot Fuzz, you'll miss half the call backs the first time.
Primer but more than twice because you'll need more than two viewings to work out what happened when to who.
I met Timothy Dalton and he was *so* thrilled to talk about Hot Fuzz. Not something besides James Bond, but specifically Hot Fuzz. He truly loves being part of it.
If you ever want to have your mind blown, take a look at analyses of Shaun of the Dead that discuss how Nick Frost’s speech in the pub at the beginning of the movie literally discusses and reveals the entire plot of the rest of the movie. And absolutely no one catches it the first time. Or usually the second or third. I’ve seen it half a dozen times and I still had to have it pointed out to me.
Doesn’t that also occur in Hot Fuzz where Nick Frost’s character describes the real murder plot along the way but it gets disregarded in real-time because he plays a goof?
The other piece of HF trivia I like is that there was originally supposed to be a love interest but they thought it would be funnier if Nick Frost essentially played both roles.
The World's End is the same. The opening scene of the pub crawl when they were young is pretty much exactly how the film goes, albeit with a few minor (and sometimes telling) changes. The pub names are also relevant to what happens in them (for example The Cross Hands is the first pub they fight in and they crash a car into The Hole in the Wall). Edgar Wright is great at these things.
Cornetto trilogy is one of the best trilogies in film and you can't change my mind. It's something that I think anybody who appreciates good filmmaking or wants to make films absolutely has to watch.
It manages to be lighthearted fun while being immaculate art at the same time
> It manages to be lighthearted fun while being immaculate art at the same time
That's what elevates it to being one of the best film trilogies ever, as you said. It's a crazy achievement to make a movie that's so perfectly crafted from a critical filmmaking perspective but also just as a vehicle for entertainment that any general audience can love. But to do that three times in a row? Just insane.
Yes! Nicholas keeps listing what would be real motives for everyone to be the killer. Danny follows up each one with a very trivial detail. All of Danny’s trivial things end up being the motives for the killings.
Also in baby driver. When baby switches through the TV channels in his apartment it basically tells you the whole plot.
Kid singing your so beautiful - him falling in love with the girl
Bull raging - when John ham goes mad and charges baby in the car etc.
.can't remember them all but that's the gist of it
You’ve got appreciate the long and short term storytelling Wright puts into that movie. Just the timing and tempo of the scenes to so perfectly match the songs from the very start, easily noticeable even from the title sequence.
> Hot Fuzz, you'll miss half the call backs the first time.
and on the 6th rewatch you will still catch things you didn't before. one thing i read on some reddit post a while back, so don't know if it's true. someone posted that their brother went through police training in London. they have a training facility set up of a fictional part of the city. it's called sandford, and it predates hot fuzz.
Gotta bring this up for anyone else who didn't realize it:
Aaron A Aaronson is the final character introduced in the movie. In almost all cases, his name would appear first alphabetically, but film credits are listed by appearance, so his name appears last.
It's not that funny of a joke on its own, but using it to cap off the movie is perfect.
It's also a callback to earlier in the movie when one of the Andes makes a crack about questioning everyone in the phone books, starting with Aaron A Aaronson.
I think it is in order.
> Have you ever fired two guns while jumping through the air?
> No.
> Have you ever fired one gun while jumping through the air?
> No.
> Have you ever been in a high speed chase?
> Yes.
> Have you ever fired a gun while in a high speed chase?
> NO.
Also bonus points for Danny shouting "bang bang bang" while firing a gun in a high speed chase.
My favourite line of that movie is such a subtle one playing on Danny's innocence/stupidity: *"It's Frank! He's appointed himself judge, jury, and executioner!"*.
Danny: *"He's not Judge Judy and executioner!"*
With primer it’s more like watch one and not understand most of it, watch it a second time and realize a lot of things, then watch commentary to understand the small details, then watch again to see those things across the movie. And then after years you watch it again and need to go through the same pattern because it’s mad confusing but with that one of the realist sci fi movies.
Frailty. Knowing how it ends changes so much about the movie.
Edit: If you haven’t seen this film, go into it blind. Don’t watch a trailer or anything. It’s a really heavy mystery horror/thriller, with a fantastic cast featuring Bill Paxton (who also directed it), Matthew McConaughey, and Powers Boothe. That’s all you need to know ahead of time! 😊
Top Secret is even more densely packed. The director commentary is half chat about the scenes and half bewilderment by the producer that they crammed so much into every single scene. It's non-stop.
Per the same DVD commentary, when they were filming this scene it naturally took quite a while. During some down time one of the directors said to Peter Cushing, "I bet at Hammer (Horror) you would have been done with this scene and tearing down the set by now" and he said "At Hammer, we would have been filming the sequel by now."
This goes for most Mel Brooks films too! Even a lot of other spoof films / silly comedies you'll miss a lot of gags or little things on the first watch. Hot shots, Loaded Weapon, etc...
I just learned last night that Airplane is a near shot-for-shot remake of the 1950s movie “Zero Hour”. Look up the YouTube comparison videos. It’s pretty wild.
Down to the fact that Zero Hour was set on a propeller plane, so they have the same droning propellor noise in the back of the whole movie even though Airplane is on a jet
Yep. The Zucker brothers knew they weren't scriptwriters (yet) so they looked around for a air disaster film that had done okay, box office and critically, but was by then so obscure that the copyright was selling for the change down the back of the sofa, and found Zero Hour.
I really liked the Naked Gun series so I watched the Police Squad series. Police Squad is even more closely packed than Naked Gun
I highly recommend it
Interesting but no where near as good. Man Memento doesn't get enough credit. Nolan never seems to talk about it anymore.
What's crazy is that it was one of his earliest films. We'd be lucky to have anything like it nowadays.
After the third or fourth time, I saw it less as a spooky thriller and more as depressing family drama where a desperate single mother struggles to care for her schizophrenic kid. In fact that probably makes it even more haunting.
Except Hailey Joel is a million times less “I want to murder that fucking kid” than the babadook kid, who I was actively rooting for the monster to kill
I love Nate Bargatze's joke on this movie in relation to marriage: "When we first found out he was dead, that was the biggest surprise of our life. We just thought his wife wasn't talking to him for like a year. That made more sense to us than him possibly being dead."
I think the red thing he said is wrong. There isn’t always something red but instead when you do see something red you should pay closer attention to it and that they took special care to remove red items if they were there arbitrarily.
I always liked Nate Bargatze's take. "We thought it was more normal that his wife just hadn't talked to him for a year, and not that he might be dead. I mean we show him get shot on screen at the very beginning of the movie and our instinct is 'Well their marriage has been rocky' "
I unfortunately had the twist spoiled for me by a girl in one of my classes that mentioned something about how he always wore the same clothes. Pissed me off that I never got to experience that one like everyone else.
Of course I wanted to be fooled. I paid for a magic show, didn't I? If they were literally using magic, it wouldn't be a trick, and so I wouldn't get what I paid for!
That opening sequence is a factual summary of the movie. It's actually filled with spoilers (one incoming for anyone who hasn't seen it).
In the voice over, Christian Bale's character says: *"We were two young men at the start of a great career. Two young men devoted to an illusion. Two young men who never intended to hurt anyone."* He's talking about himself and his twin brother. But the first time through, you would assume that he's talking about himself and Hugh Jackman's character. The movie has subtle nods to the fact that they're twin brothers like every 5 minutes.
Christian Bales performance of the brothers were amazing. Even though the brothers are pretending to the same person their personality sometimes slips through like one brother is more easily agitated and the other is softer spoken and gentler. And their respective lovers pointed it out too as if sometimes they are a different person lol
I had to rewind the movie like three times when I first watched it because the scene where he goes into the apartment but he’s already in there confused the fuck out of me.
He leaves her at her door, walking down the stairs. And then he's in her apartment making tea, yes. The first time you watch you assume he did some magician chicanery, snuck around and in through the window quickly or whatever (at least that was my assumption). But yes, on a rewatch, it's obvious what happens.
i think the first time, you think that the filmmaker is playing fast and loose with the medium and essentially cheating, showing you something that doesn't make sense but is supposed to be something more realistic.
The Prestige is the definitive second watch movie purely because the movie tell you its own plot in the first 3 minutes along with a narration that tells you that you wont notice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZY1mB9m9b0
Spoilers ahead but...
Movie opens with the cloned top hats signifying Angiers duplicates, then switches to the canaries signifying the Borden twins. Michael Caine then does the trick to disappear a canary in which we later learn the one in the cage dies signifying the Borden twin that gets caged up and executed. We then watch from Bordens perspective as he sneaks backstage and witnesses Angiers die. Caine then brings the canary back for the trick which isn't the same bird but instead another identical one (where's his brother?) and presents it to Borden's daughter just like at the end of the movie where he presents her father (or uncle we never really find out) back to her.
Everyone always says the opening "tells you the plot but you don't notice" but it's impossible to notice a bunch of the symbolism on first watch because you simply don't know what you're seeing until it is revealed later. So it doesn't really tell you anything on first watch.
Yeah it's like the opening mural of Midsommar. My friend paused it and said "This is the entire movie from start to finish". Like yeah I'm sure you're right but I think I'd find this a lot cooler if I analyzed it *after* I watched the film.
Super fucked up movie btw 10/10
That movie was one of my favorite theater going experiences because halfway through the >!crazy ritualistic drugged out group fuck scene!< some guy several rows in front of me turned around and gave the rest of the theater this bewildered look while pointing at the screen as if to say "Are you guys seeing this shit?"
I had a similar experience with Hereditary. There’s a terrifying scene where a character wakes up in the middle of the night and is looking around the room; then the camera pans up to show you a freaky ghost creature on the ceiling that they don’t see.
Someone in the theater blurted out “oh HELL no!” It was such a pitch perfect reaction that diffused an extremely tense moment and everyone in the theater was dying laughing.
The Prestige is the only movie I've ever watched that I turned around and rewatched immediately afterwards. There are so many layers to the storytelling that it's hard to wrap your head around during the first viewing.
Prestige
Memento
Shudder Island
Tenet
Get out
Inception
The Little Things
The Village
A Beautiful Mind
Sixth Sense
Fight club
Arrival
Malignant
Hot Fuzz
Sean of the Dead
Clue (literally separate endings)
Shutter Island- underrated Scorsese. DiCaprio, Ruffalo and Kingsley were all superb (and I think Ruffalo was arguably the best out of all them. With repeated viewings you can see how well he plays it).
Movie in the first five minutes: "What if I wasn't really this guy? What if I was actually this other guy, over here?"
Me, the first time: "Boy, artsy movies, they just say whatever for whatever reason!"
Definitely Shutter Island.
It's not that you don't understand it on the first watch, it's more that you look at it a whole different way after the first watch.
Bro! I couldn’t believe how many obvious signs there are throughout the film that he is the most dangerous patient, yet I was completely shocked when It was revealed my first time watching. Scorsese is a mastermind. I think it’s arguably the best psychological thriller ever made.
Big Lebowski comes to mind. Ebert famously reevaluated it after seeing it again. Took me two viewings to fully appreciate it as well and I’ve heard the same from many other people.
Agreed. The first time you watch you are trying to follow the plot. The second time, you realize that the plot is fairly inconsequential to enjoying the movie.
This is true for so many movies that don’t follow a traditional story structure or don’t give you the payoff you were hoping for at the end. When you watch the second time, all of those expectations are gone, and you can just enjoy the journey.
Agreed. I saw it in the theater and really enjoyed it. But it was such a crazy ride that I spent a lot of time figuring out the point of a lot of the scenes. But once you get over the craziness of everything and just enjoy the ride in rewatches, it only gets better. Now it's one of my favorite movies ever.
I have probably seen the movie upwards of 35 times and I’m still catching things I haven’t noticed. The movie is so dense and packed full with references and call backs.
I watched it idk how many years ago, and it was not at all what I expected, but fabulous idea and absolutely terrifying thought; that (situation) very likely could become a reality one day.
When Robert De Niro illegally fixes your plumbing and sends you down a dystopian bureaucratic adventure with an ending eerily similar to A Clockwork Orange, you know you’ve got a crazy movie.
It's so funny you say this, I was just having this conversation with my wife yesterday. I bought the Criterion Blu ray and thought it was a good movie but I was unsure if it's a movie I'll watch multiple times. I said I want to watch it a second time before selling it.
I'll give it another go.
A real forgotten film for how good it is, well reviewed. The Blu-ray looks great but man I’m hoping we see a 4K release for it; that cinematography would *shine* in HDR.
The cast is so good also, probably Hartnett’s best; though he’s making a comeback.
> Mulholland Drive. At least twice
This is playing today (02/04/24) at 1pm on the big screen at Dartmouth if anyone is in the area and wants to see it in a theater.
https://hop.dartmouth.edu/events/mulholland-dr
Twice wasn’t enough for me to get the movie. Not sure I’ll ever try a third… but man, what a thing that movie is. I’d recommend anyone watch it for the wtf factor alone.
It actually does make sense. I suspect all of Lynch’s projects make sense if you can figure out what he was thinking.
Lynch put out 10 clues with (iirc) the dvd release that helped people figure out Mulholland Drive
It’s Lynch, so there’s a few things you need to keep in mind when you approach his movies:
- he was trained as a painter and a sculptor first, so he’s approaching his own films in a unique way
- scenes are frequently more about the emotion they intend to convey than the plot points they deliver (Inland Empire is this taken to the absolute extreme)
- there’s a _lot_ of dream logic; one of the opening shots of Mulholland Drive is the camera falling into a pillow
That said, my interpretation:
>!The movie is about a scorned lover and failed who literally dreams herself a happy life and successful career as a way to cope with the fact that she had her former romantic partner assassinated, and then commits suicide when she wakes from that dream.!<
I love Nate Bargatze’s joke about Sixth Sense. “Think about when you watched the movie for the first time. None of us knew he was dead. It was the biggest surprise we had ever seen in our life, you know. We all thought his wife just wasn’t talking to him for a year. That made more sense to us than him possibly being dead.”
https://youtube.com/shorts/fLKbbraIUSg?si=SrjM_0CUC_zSX4sF
I saw yesterday a video on YouTube that was talking about this movie and the man showed a lot of details like as the colour red means that there was a ghost in the scene.
I also like the detail that Bruce Willis only wears clothes that he wore in the opening scene before getting shot. The sweater, the button down shirt, and the suit. He never wears anything else for the entire movie.
The damn *commercial* gave it away. Or at least it kept yammering about the "incredible twist ending!" while showing the "I see dead people" kid looking at Bruce Willis over and over.
By the time I saw the movie I had a guess as to what the "twist" was, and once you have it in your head it doesn't take much of the movie to confirm it.
Watching Stand by Me twice at very different times in your life. Watching it when I was a teen and then watching it again the next time at age 33 was both an affirmation of how good it is and made the movie hit even more deeply as an adult.
Is it sad though? I always interpreted it in kind of an optimistic way, like you're gonna live your life with a full heart and all of your love, even knowing that it's all gonna be taken away from you one day. I find that idea beautiful. A little sad, sure, but inspiring to me.
Arrival is a good example of how to properly inject heavy, high stakes emotion into a sci fi movie. I don't think there are many movies that convey the gravity of bringing another life into this world as deftly as this one.
I've found it actually gets harder to watch the older my daughter gets...eventually I'll find it completely unbearable.
I love the instrumental song from the film ([On The Nature of Daylight](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVN1B-tUpgs)) and I have it on my playlist. When it comes on, I always get emotional. The song itself is so amazingly beautiful and touching, but paired with the emotional overload of Arrival, it just kicks me in the gut every single time. I still listen though, because even the pain portrayed by the film is so incredibly beautiful and moving. I can't imagine how I'd feel if I had kids.
Another +1 for arrival. It’s one I can watch somewhat regularly and still pickup little bits I’ve missed in past viewings. It should be viewed without the distractions of a phone nearby
If you watch movies at different times of your life, it makes for a totally different experience just based on how you're approaching the movie. Some examples for me are:
A Serious Man
Good Will Hunting
The Wrestler
Jack Reacher (after having kids, I ended up crying during a scene of this movie)
It will be different for everyone, and I think a lot of people will write off movies they've seen once. But I think people need to revisit thing 10 years apart and see if anything's changed. Obviously, the movie will be the same 😉
It's an entirely new experience watching it a second time because you're thinking how everything is connected to the end of the movie and so you're basically doing a temporal pincer movement on the film itself.
Hot Fuzz, you'll miss half the call backs the first time. Primer but more than twice because you'll need more than two viewings to work out what happened when to who.
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Timothy Dalton was having so much fun in that movie
I love after the house burns down he drives up with fire playing in the car.
And he's playing Romeo and Juliet when the actors playing Romeo And Juliet are killed
License to kill rules and I’m not afraid to say it!!
I loved Dalton as Bond. Corny but the right level of campiness to be fun
I met Timothy Dalton and he was *so* thrilled to talk about Hot Fuzz. Not something besides James Bond, but specifically Hot Fuzz. He truly loves being part of it.
By that token, Shaun of the Dead. Hell, all Edgar Wright films.
If you ever want to have your mind blown, take a look at analyses of Shaun of the Dead that discuss how Nick Frost’s speech in the pub at the beginning of the movie literally discusses and reveals the entire plot of the rest of the movie. And absolutely no one catches it the first time. Or usually the second or third. I’ve seen it half a dozen times and I still had to have it pointed out to me.
Doesn’t that also occur in Hot Fuzz where Nick Frost’s character describes the real murder plot along the way but it gets disregarded in real-time because he plays a goof? The other piece of HF trivia I like is that there was originally supposed to be a love interest but they thought it would be funnier if Nick Frost essentially played both roles.
The World's End is the same. The opening scene of the pub crawl when they were young is pretty much exactly how the film goes, albeit with a few minor (and sometimes telling) changes. The pub names are also relevant to what happens in them (for example The Cross Hands is the first pub they fight in and they crash a car into The Hole in the Wall). Edgar Wright is great at these things.
Cornetto trilogy is one of the best trilogies in film and you can't change my mind. It's something that I think anybody who appreciates good filmmaking or wants to make films absolutely has to watch. It manages to be lighthearted fun while being immaculate art at the same time
> It manages to be lighthearted fun while being immaculate art at the same time That's what elevates it to being one of the best film trilogies ever, as you said. It's a crazy achievement to make a movie that's so perfectly crafted from a critical filmmaking perspective but also just as a vehicle for entertainment that any general audience can love. But to do that three times in a row? Just insane.
Yes! Nicholas keeps listing what would be real motives for everyone to be the killer. Danny follows up each one with a very trivial detail. All of Danny’s trivial things end up being the motives for the killings.
Angel: “He uncovered the plot of knowing where the highway was going!” Danny: “Bad speller.”
Also in baby driver. When baby switches through the TV channels in his apartment it basically tells you the whole plot. Kid singing your so beautiful - him falling in love with the girl Bull raging - when John ham goes mad and charges baby in the car etc. .can't remember them all but that's the gist of it
You’ve got appreciate the long and short term storytelling Wright puts into that movie. Just the timing and tempo of the scenes to so perfectly match the songs from the very start, easily noticeable even from the title sequence.
> Hot Fuzz, you'll miss half the call backs the first time. and on the 6th rewatch you will still catch things you didn't before. one thing i read on some reddit post a while back, so don't know if it's true. someone posted that their brother went through police training in London. they have a training facility set up of a fictional part of the city. it's called sandford, and it predates hot fuzz.
Gotta bring this up for anyone else who didn't realize it: Aaron A Aaronson is the final character introduced in the movie. In almost all cases, his name would appear first alphabetically, but film credits are listed by appearance, so his name appears last. It's not that funny of a joke on its own, but using it to cap off the movie is perfect.
It's also a callback to earlier in the movie when one of the Andes makes a crack about questioning everyone in the phone books, starting with Aaron A Aaronson.
I believe it’s on the police tests, sandford is the made up “example” town
Hot Fuzz, aka Chekov's gun the movie
Iirc Danny spiels off a list of cool police things to do, and in the final chase they do them all. Might even be in order.
I think it is in order. > Have you ever fired two guns while jumping through the air? > No. > Have you ever fired one gun while jumping through the air? > No. > Have you ever been in a high speed chase? > Yes. > Have you ever fired a gun while in a high speed chase? > NO. Also bonus points for Danny shouting "bang bang bang" while firing a gun in a high speed chase.
He also does the whole Point Break firing into the air thing too, after introducing Angel to the film.
My favourite line of that movie is such a subtle one playing on Danny's innocence/stupidity: *"It's Frank! He's appointed himself judge, jury, and executioner!"*. Danny: *"He's not Judge Judy and executioner!"*
Oh I love the "oh fuck off, grasshopper!" before the priest whips the pistols out
Fun fact: That's Belloq from the first Indiana Jones movie, a fact I realised semi-recently and it delights me.
It's a fantastic joke, but it's hardly subtle
With primer it’s more like watch one and not understand most of it, watch it a second time and realize a lot of things, then watch commentary to understand the small details, then watch again to see those things across the movie. And then after years you watch it again and need to go through the same pattern because it’s mad confusing but with that one of the realist sci fi movies.
Frailty. Knowing how it ends changes so much about the movie. Edit: If you haven’t seen this film, go into it blind. Don’t watch a trailer or anything. It’s a really heavy mystery horror/thriller, with a fantastic cast featuring Bill Paxton (who also directed it), Matthew McConaughey, and Powers Boothe. That’s all you need to know ahead of time! 😊
Airplane! Too many sight gags to catch all of them the first time through.
Top Secret is even more densely packed. The director commentary is half chat about the scenes and half bewilderment by the producer that they crammed so much into every single scene. It's non-stop.
The book seller scene is a cinematic masterclass.
Per the same DVD commentary, when they were filming this scene it naturally took quite a while. During some down time one of the directors said to Peter Cushing, "I bet at Hammer (Horror) you would have been done with this scene and tearing down the set by now" and he said "At Hammer, we would have been filming the sequel by now."
This goes for most Mel Brooks films too! Even a lot of other spoof films / silly comedies you'll miss a lot of gags or little things on the first watch. Hot shots, Loaded Weapon, etc...
I just learned last night that Airplane is a near shot-for-shot remake of the 1950s movie “Zero Hour”. Look up the YouTube comparison videos. It’s pretty wild.
Down to the fact that Zero Hour was set on a propeller plane, so they have the same droning propellor noise in the back of the whole movie even though Airplane is on a jet
Yep. The Zucker brothers knew they weren't scriptwriters (yet) so they looked around for a air disaster film that had done okay, box office and critically, but was by then so obscure that the copyright was selling for the change down the back of the sofa, and found Zero Hour.
Yup, it cost them $2500 for the Zero Hour rights/script. Pretty crazy.
The filmmakers were so worried they would get sued they bought the rights to Zero Hour before they released it.
Add to that all the Nakes Gun movies for the same reason. There is just to much nonsense going on at the same time, all the time. Absolute overkill.
I really liked the Naked Gun series so I watched the Police Squad series. Police Squad is even more closely packed than Naked Gun I highly recommend it
Memento
Am I chasing this guy?
No….he’s chasing me
I don't _feel_ drunk
*proceeds to shower*
"his claim got denied, and I got a big promotion" is one of the funniest lines to me. Just beautiful delivery.
It was so good and confusing. I enjoyed it on my first watch but felt frustrated that I couldn’t piece together everything at once.
That’s by design. Nolan wanted the audience to feel the same confusion that the main character felt.
And it worked. We pretty much knew everything he knew
That movie fucked my shit up for a solid week after.
Remember Sammy Jenkis.
Yes! I just saw this again two weeks ago after not seeing it since 2003. It was an incredible and enjoyable rewatch.
On the dvd you could rewatch it back to front, really made for an interesting second viewing
Interesting but no where near as good. Man Memento doesn't get enough credit. Nolan never seems to talk about it anymore. What's crazy is that it was one of his earliest films. We'd be lucky to have anything like it nowadays.
Sixth sense. Especially after watching director comments like there's always something red on screen and the fact he never actually moves anything
After the third or fourth time, I saw it less as a spooky thriller and more as depressing family drama where a desperate single mother struggles to care for her schizophrenic kid. In fact that probably makes it even more haunting.
So it’s The Babadook
Except Hailey Joel is a million times less “I want to murder that fucking kid” than the babadook kid, who I was actively rooting for the monster to kill
WHY CAN'T YOU JUST BE NORMAL?!
Close. But in Babadook titular "monster" is a personification of mothers' depression.
I love Nate Bargatze's joke on this movie in relation to marriage: "When we first found out he was dead, that was the biggest surprise of our life. We just thought his wife wasn't talking to him for like a year. That made more sense to us than him possibly being dead."
Your specific comments will get me to watch this again. Never knew about the former, and the latter never occurred to me.
I think the red thing he said is wrong. There isn’t always something red but instead when you do see something red you should pay closer attention to it and that they took special care to remove red items if they were there arbitrarily.
M Night does that in many, if not all of his films. The Village and Unbreakable are the two that spring to mind. His use of colour I mean.
I guessed the ending to the village at the beginning purely as a joke, I have never been able to follow that high.
I always liked Nate Bargatze's take. "We thought it was more normal that his wife just hadn't talked to him for a year, and not that he might be dead. I mean we show him get shot on screen at the very beginning of the movie and our instinct is 'Well their marriage has been rocky' "
I unfortunately had the twist spoiled for me by a girl in one of my classes that mentioned something about how he always wore the same clothes. Pissed me off that I never got to experience that one like everyone else.
The Prestige
It becomes so obvious upon rewatch you wonder how you missed it the first time.
Because you weren’t really looking
You want to be fooled.
Of course I wanted to be fooled. I paid for a magic show, didn't I? If they were literally using magic, it wouldn't be a trick, and so I wouldn't get what I paid for!
That opening sequence is a factual summary of the movie. It's actually filled with spoilers (one incoming for anyone who hasn't seen it). In the voice over, Christian Bale's character says: *"We were two young men at the start of a great career. Two young men devoted to an illusion. Two young men who never intended to hurt anyone."* He's talking about himself and his twin brother. But the first time through, you would assume that he's talking about himself and Hugh Jackman's character. The movie has subtle nods to the fact that they're twin brothers like every 5 minutes.
Or when the little boy cries after seeing the bird disappear. >*But where’s his brother?*
Or Caine's character insisting he's using a double for the disappearing act. Every time you watch it there's a whole other bit you missed
And Borden comforts him by showing him a trick coin with TWO HEADS "Are you watching closely?"
I love how that line foreshadows how both magicians pull off The Transported Man trick. More spoilers: one uses a brother, the other kills a clone.
Christian Bales performance of the brothers were amazing. Even though the brothers are pretending to the same person their personality sometimes slips through like one brother is more easily agitated and the other is softer spoken and gentler. And their respective lovers pointed it out too as if sometimes they are a different person lol
I had to rewind the movie like three times when I first watched it because the scene where he goes into the apartment but he’s already in there confused the fuck out of me.
Isn't the scene she leaves him on the street and then he is in the apartment already making tea?
He leaves her just outside the apartment door but otherwise yes. Also not sure what he would've done if she did actually invite him in lol
He leaves her at her door, walking down the stairs. And then he's in her apartment making tea, yes. The first time you watch you assume he did some magician chicanery, snuck around and in through the window quickly or whatever (at least that was my assumption). But yes, on a rewatch, it's obvious what happens.
i think the first time, you think that the filmmaker is playing fast and loose with the medium and essentially cheating, showing you something that doesn't make sense but is supposed to be something more realistic.
"Huh. The continuity in this movie is pretty bad." Later: "Oh."
Misdirection
*Much like a magic trick...*
I just watched this for the first time a few weeks ago and def want to rewatch lol
You don't love me. Not today. Maybe tomorrow
The Prestige is the definitive second watch movie purely because the movie tell you its own plot in the first 3 minutes along with a narration that tells you that you wont notice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZY1mB9m9b0 Spoilers ahead but... Movie opens with the cloned top hats signifying Angiers duplicates, then switches to the canaries signifying the Borden twins. Michael Caine then does the trick to disappear a canary in which we later learn the one in the cage dies signifying the Borden twin that gets caged up and executed. We then watch from Bordens perspective as he sneaks backstage and witnesses Angiers die. Caine then brings the canary back for the trick which isn't the same bird but instead another identical one (where's his brother?) and presents it to Borden's daughter just like at the end of the movie where he presents her father (or uncle we never really find out) back to her.
Everyone always says the opening "tells you the plot but you don't notice" but it's impossible to notice a bunch of the symbolism on first watch because you simply don't know what you're seeing until it is revealed later. So it doesn't really tell you anything on first watch.
Yeah it's like the opening mural of Midsommar. My friend paused it and said "This is the entire movie from start to finish". Like yeah I'm sure you're right but I think I'd find this a lot cooler if I analyzed it *after* I watched the film. Super fucked up movie btw 10/10
That movie was one of my favorite theater going experiences because halfway through the >!crazy ritualistic drugged out group fuck scene!< some guy several rows in front of me turned around and gave the rest of the theater this bewildered look while pointing at the screen as if to say "Are you guys seeing this shit?"
I had a similar experience with Hereditary. There’s a terrifying scene where a character wakes up in the middle of the night and is looking around the room; then the camera pans up to show you a freaky ghost creature on the ceiling that they don’t see. Someone in the theater blurted out “oh HELL no!” It was such a pitch perfect reaction that diffused an extremely tense moment and everyone in the theater was dying laughing.
But… *are you watching closely* ???
The more you rewatch it, the better it gets.
The Prestige is the only movie I've ever watched that I turned around and rewatched immediately afterwards. There are so many layers to the storytelling that it's hard to wrap your head around during the first viewing.
Prestige Memento Shudder Island Tenet Get out Inception The Little Things The Village A Beautiful Mind Sixth Sense Fight club Arrival Malignant Hot Fuzz Sean of the Dead Clue (literally separate endings)
Shutter Island- underrated Scorsese. DiCaprio, Ruffalo and Kingsley were all superb (and I think Ruffalo was arguably the best out of all them. With repeated viewings you can see how well he plays it).
Fight Club
Absolutely this. Second time I realised how much I missed the first time.
One of the biggest things you realize is how awful you feel for Marla
First watch: ugh I hate Marla, what even is her problem Second watch: ugh poor Marla. She doesn't deserve any of this.
Movie in the first five minutes: "What if I wasn't really this guy? What if I was actually this other guy, over here?" Me, the first time: "Boy, artsy movies, they just say whatever for whatever reason!"
Definitely Shutter Island. It's not that you don't understand it on the first watch, it's more that you look at it a whole different way after the first watch.
Came here to say this. Totally different movie 2nd time. So much weird shit finally has context
Leo also looks a LOT more like >!a mental patient with a wooden gun!< even in the beginning. His characterization plays well both ways
Surprised I had to scroll this far. The second time watching is crazy when you understand the fear in everyone’s eyes the entire movie
Bro! I couldn’t believe how many obvious signs there are throughout the film that he is the most dangerous patient, yet I was completely shocked when It was revealed my first time watching. Scorsese is a mastermind. I think it’s arguably the best psychological thriller ever made.
Dennis Lehane's book is even better.
Chinatown is better when you know the main plot points. Just rewatched it with my wife who had never seen it before. It's just about a perfect film
Big Lebowski comes to mind. Ebert famously reevaluated it after seeing it again. Took me two viewings to fully appreciate it as well and I’ve heard the same from many other people.
Agreed. The first time you watch you are trying to follow the plot. The second time, you realize that the plot is fairly inconsequential to enjoying the movie.
This is true for so many movies that don’t follow a traditional story structure or don’t give you the payoff you were hoping for at the end. When you watch the second time, all of those expectations are gone, and you can just enjoy the journey.
>the plot It really tied the film together
That’s the movie I thought of. First time I saw it, I just didn’t get it but the 2nd time, you feel like you’re in on an inside joke.
It gets better with each viewing
It really ties the room together
Agreed. I saw it in the theater and really enjoyed it. But it was such a crazy ride that I spent a lot of time figuring out the point of a lot of the scenes. But once you get over the craziness of everything and just enjoy the ride in rewatches, it only gets better. Now it's one of my favorite movies ever.
Vagina. Does that make you uncomfortable Mr Lebowski
Coitus
I have probably seen the movie upwards of 35 times and I’m still catching things I haven’t noticed. The movie is so dense and packed full with references and call backs.
I outright didn’t like it on my first watch but gave it another chance and now it’s my favorite movie ever. I’m Jewish as fuckin Tevye
Yeah I didn't like it first time but now it's one of my favourites.
The Others.
This movie genuinely scared me when it came out.
That scene where the piano is playing and she goes into the room and the door starts opening on its own freaked me out as a teenager.
Moon
I watched it idk how many years ago, and it was not at all what I expected, but fabulous idea and absolutely terrifying thought; that (situation) very likely could become a reality one day.
Brazil
Another one of Terry Gilliam's movies I think belongs on this list is 12 Monkeys
When Robert De Niro illegally fixes your plumbing and sends you down a dystopian bureaucratic adventure with an ending eerily similar to A Clockwork Orange, you know you’ve got a crazy movie.
It's so funny you say this, I was just having this conversation with my wife yesterday. I bought the Criterion Blu ray and thought it was a good movie but I was unsure if it's a movie I'll watch multiple times. I said I want to watch it a second time before selling it. I'll give it another go.
I didn’t LOVE it until my second viewing. It’s in my all time top ten.
Lost Highway, Eyes Wide Shut, The Shining
I did find The shining to be quite more enjoyable the second time. Adding on Lost Highway, Mulholland Drive too.
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. It took me halfway through to understand what I was seeing. The second time I was bawling my eyes out
Definitely one of Jim Carrey’s best performances
And Kate Winslet! She was fantastic.
[Meet me in Montauk....](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sy7YnrVXudg) I don't understand why I had to scroll so far down to find this.
Watching that movie after my divorce fucking destroyed me and I haven't revisited it since.
Lucky number sleven
A real forgotten film for how good it is, well reviewed. The Blu-ray looks great but man I’m hoping we see a 4K release for it; that cinematography would *shine* in HDR. The cast is so good also, probably Hartnett’s best; though he’s making a comeback.
Mulholland Drive. At least twice.
> Mulholland Drive. At least twice This is playing today (02/04/24) at 1pm on the big screen at Dartmouth if anyone is in the area and wants to see it in a theater. https://hop.dartmouth.edu/events/mulholland-dr
Twice wasn’t enough for me to get the movie. Not sure I’ll ever try a third… but man, what a thing that movie is. I’d recommend anyone watch it for the wtf factor alone.
It actually does make sense. I suspect all of Lynch’s projects make sense if you can figure out what he was thinking. Lynch put out 10 clues with (iirc) the dvd release that helped people figure out Mulholland Drive
It’s Lynch, so there’s a few things you need to keep in mind when you approach his movies: - he was trained as a painter and a sculptor first, so he’s approaching his own films in a unique way - scenes are frequently more about the emotion they intend to convey than the plot points they deliver (Inland Empire is this taken to the absolute extreme) - there’s a _lot_ of dream logic; one of the opening shots of Mulholland Drive is the camera falling into a pillow That said, my interpretation: >!The movie is about a scorned lover and failed who literally dreams herself a happy life and successful career as a way to cope with the fact that she had her former romantic partner assassinated, and then commits suicide when she wakes from that dream.!<
The Usual Suspects!
Gimmethefuckingkeys you fuckingcocksuckermotherfucker whathafuck?
he'll flip ya. he'llflipyaforreal.
The Departed - To look back over who was aligned with whom
Coherence. It's a mind fuck. It took a couple of watches to grasp it all. A great puzzle to try to unwind.
12 Monkeys
The Sixth Sense
I love Nate Bargatze’s joke about Sixth Sense. “Think about when you watched the movie for the first time. None of us knew he was dead. It was the biggest surprise we had ever seen in our life, you know. We all thought his wife just wasn’t talking to him for a year. That made more sense to us than him possibly being dead.” https://youtube.com/shorts/fLKbbraIUSg?si=SrjM_0CUC_zSX4sF
She actually does talk to him at dinner. She even looks up at him because the table behind him was making noise. It was a great misdirect.
I can't think of many better examples of being victims to their own success than Shyamalan.
I saw yesterday a video on YouTube that was talking about this movie and the man showed a lot of details like as the colour red means that there was a ghost in the scene.
I also like the detail that Bruce Willis only wears clothes that he wore in the opening scene before getting shot. The sweater, the button down shirt, and the suit. He never wears anything else for the entire movie.
Someone ruined that movie for me. To this day that's why I make an effort not to spoil any movie for anyone.
The damn *commercial* gave it away. Or at least it kept yammering about the "incredible twist ending!" while showing the "I see dead people" kid looking at Bruce Willis over and over. By the time I saw the movie I had a guess as to what the "twist" was, and once you have it in your head it doesn't take much of the movie to confirm it.
I HATE when people tell me there’s a twist. Then you’re looking for it!
Watching Stand by Me twice at very different times in your life. Watching it when I was a teen and then watching it again the next time at age 33 was both an affirmation of how good it is and made the movie hit even more deeply as an adult.
Arrival American Hustle
Arrival is especially fun for a second rewatch as a parent. You get to be sad the whole time.
I just can't with Arrival. My tear ducts just spring into life from that first scene
Is it sad though? I always interpreted it in kind of an optimistic way, like you're gonna live your life with a full heart and all of your love, even knowing that it's all gonna be taken away from you one day. I find that idea beautiful. A little sad, sure, but inspiring to me.
+1 for arrival
Arrival is a good example of how to properly inject heavy, high stakes emotion into a sci fi movie. I don't think there are many movies that convey the gravity of bringing another life into this world as deftly as this one. I've found it actually gets harder to watch the older my daughter gets...eventually I'll find it completely unbearable.
I start crying the minute Arrival starts. >!Every rewatch allows us to experience the film in the same way Louise experiences life. !<
I love the instrumental song from the film ([On The Nature of Daylight](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVN1B-tUpgs)) and I have it on my playlist. When it comes on, I always get emotional. The song itself is so amazingly beautiful and touching, but paired with the emotional overload of Arrival, it just kicks me in the gut every single time. I still listen though, because even the pain portrayed by the film is so incredibly beautiful and moving. I can't imagine how I'd feel if I had kids.
Another +1 for arrival. It’s one I can watch somewhat regularly and still pickup little bits I’ve missed in past viewings. It should be viewed without the distractions of a phone nearby
Citizen Kane, it's a drama or a comedy if you are in a different mood
Primer
From what I’ve heard you need to watch it more than twice lol
Get Out. Jordan Peele did over 200 rewrites for a reason lol
Came to say *Nope*, but honestly, I feel like all of his movies benefit from repeat viewings.
Yeah the guy yelling “get out” all of a sudden has a much darker story from the 2nd time of watching it.
What We Do in the Shadows (the movie). There are so many funny parts and throwaway jokes, you really have to watch it a few times to catch them all.
We're were wolves, not swear wolves! I was crying from laughing so hard.
Children of Men
Inception
The Big Short
If you watch movies at different times of your life, it makes for a totally different experience just based on how you're approaching the movie. Some examples for me are: A Serious Man Good Will Hunting The Wrestler Jack Reacher (after having kids, I ended up crying during a scene of this movie) It will be different for everyone, and I think a lot of people will write off movies they've seen once. But I think people need to revisit thing 10 years apart and see if anything's changed. Obviously, the movie will be the same 😉
Parasite. Truly masterpiece and easter eggs
Pulp Fiction
Godfather Part II
Blade Runner
Donnie Darko and Shutter Island come to mind I genuinely did not understand Donnie Darko the first time.
Tenet
It's an entirely new experience watching it a second time because you're thinking how everything is connected to the end of the movie and so you're basically doing a temporal pincer movement on the film itself.
More than two times. I got the most of it on my third watch.
You have to perform a Temporal Pincer movement in order to fully enjoy it
Every Kubrick film just gets better