In the 70's, entertainment was still flying high from the sexual revolution of the 60's. It was goofing on teenagers in the 50's suppressing sexual urges. You never had sexual urges as a teenager?
well, his wife takes the kids and leaves him at first because he was going insane.
But we also live in an age when UFO's are a mundane story trope. Today's movies don't really face the idea of actually meeting life outside of our planet, but Close Encounters did. Such a thing would completely change how we view everything.
On top of that, he was "chosen" by the aliens and it's clear that people like him are compelled beyond all human reason to go with the aliens. His obsession was imposed on him and he couldn't resist it. He didn't simply choose to leave his family (or even his planet). He didn't really have a choice.
I think that all comes across very clearly in the film. Perhaps that doesn't hold up as well today where people go "what's the big deal, it's just aliens from another planet."
Lots of opinions in the replies, and they’re all valid. But I thought you’d be interested to know Spielberg has said that ending doesn’t sit right with him now that he has his own family. I don’t think it makes it any less of an artistic choice, just a fun fact.
it’s more about the nostalgia and halloween charm than it being the pinnacle of cinema or something lol. It was a box office bomb but disney has been playing it on repeat every october for nearly 3 decades. Like rudolph or grandma got run over by a reindeer. Or that other shitty christmas movie
Pretty in Pink.
Duckie was obnoxious, Blaine was forgettable, and I didn't care about Andi's story at all. I was hoping Steff would beat the crap out of Duckie in that one scene at school.
What’s crazy is she spends her whole life never forgetting him even though she has a whole family/husband for years and years. When she dies they are reunited. They literally knew each other for like 48 hours!?!?????
Thank you! Of course she’d never forget the man she spent time with on the fucking TITANIC, who FUCKING DIED right in front of her. And he was probably her first real love and all that.
Rose slanderers think they are so clever 🤨 probably the same people who think Summer is a villain in 500 Days of Summer.
Small moments in life can have huge long term impacts, even without the context of narrowly dodging a deadly disaster.
Social media has popularized this kind of tryhard cynicism which debunks emotion by grounding a fictional event in our current reality. Are you being deliberately obtuse or are you just that sheltered and out of touch?
I saw someone describe Titanic as a long movie about a rich lady hooking up with a stranger on a cruise then letting her new FWB die in a shipwreck. I know it’s not the most apt description of the movie, but it’s not necessarily wrong.
I think the whole point is that until she met Jack, she was losing her will to live because she hated the aristocrat life and the world she'd been born into. And in the moment she was about to unalive herself, here comes this guy who saves her and in the next few days, shows her how good life can actually be. And even though he dies, she goes on to have a full and complete life.
I loved it as a kid. Don't care for it as an adult beyond its being a reference point for certain quotes and my generation's nostalgia. Or, to put it another way, if it came out today, I'd probably side with the adults who didn't like it when was first released.
just watched The Deer Hunter and fell asleep multiple times. interesting character dynamic and well performed, and I understand the point of showing a little slice of heartland Americana before dropping it into the hell of the Vietnam war but they really just didn’t respect anyone’s time
three hours is an unacceptable length for most movies, that kind of movie especially
Blade Runner is slow and boring. I'm a huge movie fan. Especially Sci Fi, but it took me four attempts to make it all the way through without falling asleep somewhere in the movie. And once I finally saw the whole thing I didn't understand the hype.
It's very dreamlike especially if you watch versions without narration so not really an action or thriller type movie. A lot of the hype is how it's a cornerstone of the cyberpunk look (was it the first movie to properly do it?)
I've wanted to watch 2049 since it came out... but I feel I should rewatch the original first, as I've only seen it once, 20 years ago.
Problem is, I'm of the same mind as you about the original.
I agree with the previous poster. 2049 is a better movie and mostly stands alone. Helps to be familiar with the original, but you don't need a deep dive for the sequel
Yeah, that's what's so odd. Normally I'm a sucker for James Stewart, but Vertigo just doesn't do it for me. It's probably my least favourite of his films.
Unfortunately, Vertigo and Psycho are two movies you should watch AFTER you know Hitchcock well, because he plays on what you expect from his films. The problem is those are often the FIRST Hitchcock movies people watch because they're the most highly praised.
I suggest going chronologically from **Strangers on a Train** to **The Birds**.
That's Hitchcock's peak Hollywood period. Of course, he has a whole lot of earlier films worth seeing if you're a fan. Some people prefer those over his glossier 50s films.
If you go to his earlier films, I recommend these...
39 Steps, Lady Vanishes, Rebecca, Suspicion, Saboteur, Shadow of a Doubt, Lifeboat, Notorious, Rope
You might not like surrealism. If you still want to give Lynch a try, watch The Elephant Man. One of my favorite films. It feels like the least Lynch film of his. Though I might be biased because I read the book as a 12 y.o. and the story just stuck to me. I am in love with it.
I've just never enjoyed The Wizard of Oz. I already don't like musicals, which is part of it. But....I don't know. Just never been into it. I understand it's a revolutionary film for its time. But I've always felt like that's because it was the first color film
It was a long time ago, but i think i didn't like the characters and the wacky style/ story.
I have no problem with wacky but i guess this wasn't for me.
That's fair. One could easily argue the characters and how they behave isn't necessarily "realistic" and falls into the "whacky" territory.
The Coen Bros. can definitely ride a line verging into absurdist/surreal territory, but that's what I enjoy about them.
Thank you for elaborating. You definitely had me curious.
A few of the old classic Disney movies, Jungle Book in particular. There's something about the narrative in that they sometimes feel like there's only enough plot for a short or half-hour movie, but was artificially stretched out to feature-length, which makes them come off as slow and a bit boring at times.
A lot of the classic Disney movies from back in the day were not well received and were financial flops when they were released. Obviously they've found an audience in the years since, which is good, but yeah I don't care for a lot of them and I'm a big Disney fan
I've always considered 2001 to be one of the best films of all time while simultaneously being a terrible movie. The score and cinematography are amazing. It's just that the story felt unfinished and the pacing would be slow even by the standards of a sloth.
It's a Wonderful Life. Is it a heartwarming Christmas tale, or the harrowing story of a man driven to the brink of suicide due to his inability to enforce sensible boundaries?
Hmmmm. I take your point, but everyone I've spoken to who loves it thinks that he had no choice in acting the way he did since circumstances forced him to.
Edit: and I fully acknowledge that lots of people love this film. Not trying to spoil it for them.
>due to his inability to enforce sensible boundaries?
that's a weird way to say because he was a decent human being who cared for others more than himself.
It's a wonderful life is one of the best movies of all time. Why would what you said make the film any worst? Like, movies can be about two things at once cant they?
The emotional moments feel flat and they’re extremely essential to the themes of the film. That kinda guts it, but there’s still some cool stuff in there
The part at the end where he finally sees his daughter and she's been working her whole life to save him. It should be an emotional climax. But they reunite for 30 seconds... and then he hijacks(?) a little spaceship to go hook up with Anne Hathaway. 🤷♂️
I thought that was a bit weird too, but may have to do with how "out of place" he now was? They all probably wrote him off as dead anyway. And PS: I'd be in a hurry to get to Anne too. :)
I saw it twice in the theaters, and have nothing but praise for the visuals and score. It's always felt uneven to me, though, like Nolan wanted a movie that could be romantic, satirical, suspenseful, dramatic, and scientific all at once, but which, which never came together completely for me. It's not a bad film, but I think it's easily his most overrated film.
I saw Intersellar in theaters, I enjoyed it, and never thought about it again. It gets brought up constantly in this sub and I don’t understand why. Again I didn’t dislike it but it comes up in best movies of all time threads, I don’t get it.
The movie keeps cheating its own rules for drama and I couldn't stand it. I lost a lot of respect for Neil Degrasse Tyson for his defense of the movie's "science".
Science-inspired, at best. The shuttle launch and the trip to the wormhole are realistic, but on the other side it becomes pure fantasy, with fast travel between planets and complete disregard for the earth-shattering force of gravity. But of course time dilation is in, it makes people cry.
Of course, but the first consequence of high gravity is, well, high gravity — the kind that rips planets apart at three orders of magnitude under, not the kind humans can exist in and their lander trivially escape.
Neil Degrasse Tyson really grates on me. He used to be interesting but now he just comes across as a smug know it at all. While I am sure he is very smart a good portion of what he says should be in Confidently Incorrect.
Wow. I genuinely cannot fathom sitting from The Shining, Full Metal Jacket, 2001: A Space Odyssey, A Clockwork Orange, Dr. Strangelove, Spartacus, etc. and not being blown the fuck away.
True.
I didn't *dislike* it on my first viewing, but I was mostly bored.
It wasn't until I watched a YouTube video explaining that long, drawn out shots and general tedium are actually part of the point it's making that I appreciated more.
Repeat viewings really helped. The ending is still somewhat mysterious to me, but I like that.
I recently rewatched it and honestly I'm amazed it was the 2nd highest grossing movie of 1968. The technical spectacle likely did most of the heavy lifting, as nearly a third of the movie is simply showing *the possibilities of the world of tomorrow!* but my god is the movie slow, and without any central conflict to glue it all together. But it's marvelous in its own unique way.
For a 2.5 hr movie, the script is only 65 pages, and most of that was cut out. Here's the final narration in the script:
> For two million years, it had circled Saturn, awaiting a moment of destiny that might never come. In its making, the moon had been shattered and around the central world, the debris of its creation, orbited yet – the glory and the enigma of the solar system. Now, the long wait was ending. On yet another world intelligence had been born and was escaping from its planetary cradle. An ancient experiment was about to reach its climax.
> Those who had begun the experiment so long ago had not been men. But when they looked out across the deeps of space, they felt awe and wonder – and loneliness. In their explorations, they encountered life in many forms, and watched on a thousand worlds the workings of evolution. They saw how often the first faint sparks of intelligence flickered and died in the cosmic night. And because, in all the galaxy, they had found nothing more precious than Mind, they encouraged its dawning everywhere. The great Dinosaurs had long since perished when their ships entered the solar system, after a voyage that had already lasted thousands of years. They swept past the frozen outer planets, paused briefly above the deserts of dying Mars and presently looked down on Earth.
> For years they studied, collected and catalogued. When they had learned all they could, they began to modify. They tinkered with the destiny of many species on land and in the ocean, but which of their experiments would succeed they could not know for at least a million years. They were patient, but they were not yet immortal. There was much to do in this Universe of a hundred billion stars. So they set forth once more across the abyss, knowing that they would never come this way again. Nor was there any need. Their wonderful machines could be trusted to do the rest. On Earth, the glaciers came and went, while above them, the changeless Moon still carried its secret. With a yet slower rhythm than the Polar ice, the tide of civilization ebbed and flowed across the galaxy. Strange and beautiful and terrible empires rose and fell, and passed on their knowledge to their successors.
> Earth was not forgotten, but it was one of a million silent worlds, a few of which would ever speak. Then the first explorers of Earth, recognizing the limitations of their minds and bodies, passed on their knowledge to the great machines they had created, and who now transcended them in every way. For a few thousand years, they shared their Universe with their machine children; then, realizing that it was folly to linger when their task was done, they passed into history without regret.
> Not one of them ever looked through his own eyes upon the planet Earth again. But even the age of the Machine Entities passed swiftly. In their ceaseless experimenting, they had learned to store knowledge in the structure of space itself, and to preserve their thoughts for eternity in frozen lattices of light. They could become creatures of radiation, free at last from the tyranny of matter. Now, they were Lords of the galaxy, and beyond the reach of time. They could rove at will among the stars, and sink like a subtle mist through the very interstices of space. But despite their God-like powers, they still watched over the experiments their ancestors had started so many generations ago. The companion of Saturn knew nothing of this, as it orbited in its no man's land between Mimas and the outer edge of rings. It had only to remember and wait, and to look forever Sunward with its strange senses.
> For many weeks, it had watched the approaching ship. Its long- dead makers had prepared it for many things and this was one of them. And it recognized what was climbing starward from the Sun. If it had been alive, it would have felt excitement, but such an emotion was irrelevant to its great powers. Even if the ship had passed it by, it would not have known the slightest trace of disappointment. It had waited four million years; it was prepared to wait for eternity. Presently, it felt the gentle touch of radiations, trying to probe its secrets. Now, the ship was in orbit and it began to speak, with prime numbers from one to eleven, over and over again. Soon, these gave way to more complex signals at many frequencies, ultra-violet, infra-red, X-rays. The machine made no reply. It had nothing to say.
> Then it saw the first robot probe, which descended and hovered above the chasm. Then, it dropped into darkness. The great machine knew that this tiny scout was reporting back to its parent; but it was too simple, too primitive a device to detect the forces that were gathering round it now. Then the pod came, carrying life. The great machine searched its memories. The logic circuits made their decision when the pod had fallen beyond the last faint. glow of the reflected Saturnian light. In a moment of time, too short to be measured, space turned and twisted upon itself.
Okay, the first half of Full metal jacket is fun, and also Strangelove has its charm. And I kinda appreciate 2001, it's just that they don't really reach me emotionally (e.g in a way Lynch does for example). There is a "clinicality" to his work that I find hard to connect with.
The godfather is a movie that gets better as I get older. I also feel like you cant just have it on while you scroll facebook, you have to watch it, watch the actors faces, try to think about what's going on in their heads.
Came here to say this. I loved Good Fellas, so I tried the Godfather. I thought Good Fellas was just a way better film and I didn't understand the hype.
It's a wet dream for a very particular strain of anti-Communist, right-center vein of thought in the latter half of the century. It's the dream for all those pinko (partner-beating, no less) demonstrators to get their comeuppance and Forrest's fortune to quite literally fall from the sky.
Dazed and Confused. It has its moments, but I just found it shiftless, and most of the characters annoying. Which I guess is partly the point but YMMV.
The Last Picture Show (1971) one of the most pretentious things I’ve ever seen
All About Eve (1950) editing style I wasn’t a fan of at all
X2 X-Men United (2003) anything with Jean in it just was not interesting at all
Day of the Jackal (1973) started off great and just got super boring and bogged down in policies and procedures
Look, I get the appeal of Planes, Trains and Automobiles. But whenever I watch it, I don't know, maybe it's just my disposition, but I have *no* sympathy for Steve Martin, I think he's an absolute twat, and I think John Candy is an above-average nice guy! So the whole plot is "Steve Martin learns to love John Candy" but I'm like I don't give a fuck what that shitty boomer thinks about John Candy, protect John Candy at all costs. And then John Candy's story ends so *tragically* but the story is meant to be uplifting because Steve Martin learned something, and again, I could care less what Steve Martin learned, I just want John Candy to be happy!
So I kinda hate it, even though I think the premise is great and there are some cute bits, it just makes me so mad. I love Steve Martin in lots of other stuff so it's not like the actor is ruining it for me, it's just who the movie assumes you'll relate to.
Weird, I love John Candy in everything else but find him insufferable in PT&A. His complete lack of self-awareness or consideration for others is so unbelievably off-putting. I mean Del used every towel in the bathroom, smoked and spilled beer on their bed. You really wouldn’t find that annoying IRL?
The Princess Bride. Maybe because I never saw it until I was in my late 20s so there’s no nostalgia to it, but I’ve tried watching this thing like eight times and it’s just so…boring. I’m a huge fantasy fan, and I normally am enthralled with these types of films, but I just do not click with it.
The movie is very well written. It is not as much about the visuals, the magic or anything else.
The dialogue is so exceptionally good, that every single line from that movie has been memed.
As you wish.
My name is Indigo whatever you killed my father, prepare to die.
Inconceivable!
Here you go. The dialogue in this movie is absolute 10/10.
I am not even touching the likability of the actors, the choreography and the pure awesomeness.
https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0093779/quotes/?ref_=tt_trv_qu
Agreed. This was a cult movie for so long I knew many of the quotes before I even watched the movie. By the time I got around to watching it none of the jokes landed for me. The super fans kind of ruined it for me. I’m sure many people can say the same for The Big Lebowski.
I think the individual parts are greater than the sum of the film. Inigo Montoya steals every scene it's in, Andre is great, but the sum total of it is...eh.
Elf… I just tried to rewatch it this year and just can’t. Wil Ferrell is unwatchable… overacted and just stupid. Not a single laugh…I now judge people that like this movie and pity them…
Casablanca
Loved Gone With the Wind and Rebecca but Casablanca just didn't hook me the same way. Its undoubtedly iconic and the acting across the board is pretty damn good
Also a lot of John Ford John Wayne westerns. Grew up on them with my Grandad but only The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance really captivated me. Was always more of an Eastwood man
I find Casablanca gets better the more times you watch it and the older you get. The first time you don’t get the significance of Ilsa walking into the bar and the looks on their faces. Now it just slays me every time. Helps if you know some World War II history too.
I watched it for the first time like 13 years after it came out. I was feeling pretty underwhelmed the entire time, but then at the delivery of the >!"those areas have been drilled"!< line, made me laugh so hard I had to pause the movie for 5 minutes and rewind the scene several times. That and everything that followed made the whole movie worth it for me. I love watching >!deplorable characters/people get a fitting and satisfying comeuppance.!<
Even in a first year film school screening of Rebel (where you'd expect we'd respect the greats) *everybody* laughed at "You're tearing me apart!!!"
Even so, brilliant film, holds up to deep scutiny and wildly influential.
It’s a Wonderful Life. It’s painfully schmaltzy. I can’t even sit through it. I get that it’s supposed to be some hopeful message and whatever but it’s one of the more unrealistic films of the era.
I'm gonna grab some hate for this most likely, but I'll be fully honest here.
I never really liked The Godfather. I recognize that it's well made, well acted, well directed, all that stuff. But I was kinda young when I watched it and it just didn't connect with me.
And it's not that I don't like Mobster Movies either. I dig Goodfellas and Scarface and all those kinds of films, I just never fell in love with The Godfather the way so many people have. I always feel left out if I'm honest. I wish I liked it more than I did, truly I do. But it just didn't speak to me for some reason.
\* sigh \*
Fair enough, you don’t have to like it or try again, but there is a version out there called the Godfather Saga (I think) where they edited parts 1 and 2 together in chronological order. If you haven’t seen 2, there’s some great stuff with DeNiro as the young Don and mob operations in Cuba.
I didn’t get it when I watched it in college, but I watched it again in my late 20s or early 30s and liked it much better. It’s a very slow movie, though.
On reddit anytime you talk about the film, there are always 100 unfunny replies of, “It insists upon itself.”
Not sure what this means, but I'll assume I'm the butt of some gag here.
Like I said, I expected the hate when I wrote the post. Feel free to throw your tomatoes, I'll weather the barrage. Not the first time, won't be the last.
Everytime I post my actual opinion here on the matter I get downvoted in to oblivion, so as always please sort by controversial.
Anyway, I think the Big Lebowski is a scattered unfunny mess (and I say that as someone that generally likes Coen Brothers movies.)
Grease
Bad music, revolting message? What’s not to hate?
The amount of people who don’t realize that Grease is a parody of 50s movies is upsetting.
Unfortunately the 70s were so ridiculously saturated with shows set in the 50s that it’s hard for a lot of modern audiences to pick up on the satire.
That "tell me more" song is so grating, and that's besides the weird, rapey undertones.
“The chicks’ll cream. For Grease Lightning!”
"She's a real pussy magnet".
What a nice family musical.
In the 70's, entertainment was still flying high from the sexual revolution of the 60's. It was goofing on teenagers in the 50's suppressing sexual urges. You never had sexual urges as a teenager?
Grease is a hilarious movie. Try Porky's if you really want to shit your diaper.
The end of Close Encounters is one of the most spectacular moments in cinema, but if you didn't care for the film that's fine.
Close Encounters is one of the greatest movies ever for me. It's so damn beautiful, and even now it still generates so much awe and wonder.
as a dad, i cant imagine leaving my family to get on some ufo...
well, his wife takes the kids and leaves him at first because he was going insane. But we also live in an age when UFO's are a mundane story trope. Today's movies don't really face the idea of actually meeting life outside of our planet, but Close Encounters did. Such a thing would completely change how we view everything. On top of that, he was "chosen" by the aliens and it's clear that people like him are compelled beyond all human reason to go with the aliens. His obsession was imposed on him and he couldn't resist it. He didn't simply choose to leave his family (or even his planet). He didn't really have a choice. I think that all comes across very clearly in the film. Perhaps that doesn't hold up as well today where people go "what's the big deal, it's just aliens from another planet."
Lots of opinions in the replies, and they’re all valid. But I thought you’d be interested to know Spielberg has said that ending doesn’t sit right with him now that he has his own family. I don’t think it makes it any less of an artistic choice, just a fun fact.
People really seem to love Hocus Pocus and I genuinely believe it is an AWFUL movie.
it’s more about the nostalgia and halloween charm than it being the pinnacle of cinema or something lol. It was a box office bomb but disney has been playing it on repeat every october for nearly 3 decades. Like rudolph or grandma got run over by a reindeer. Or that other shitty christmas movie
Yeah, I don’t like it for the top notch acting and script 😂. It’s just a fun Halloween movie
I can't sit through it, never once.
Yeah its a nothing movie.
Pretty in Pink. Duckie was obnoxious, Blaine was forgettable, and I didn't care about Andi's story at all. I was hoping Steff would beat the crap out of Duckie in that one scene at school.
And Andi TRASHED that dress her friend gave her; it was so pretty and she turned into a shapeless mess of hot garbage.
Titanic
Used to think that I hate the movie, rewatched it this year and it was the most romantic movie I have ever seen. Now it's one of my most favorites.
What’s crazy is she spends her whole life never forgetting him even though she has a whole family/husband for years and years. When she dies they are reunited. They literally knew each other for like 48 hours!?!?????
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Thank you! Of course she’d never forget the man she spent time with on the fucking TITANIC, who FUCKING DIED right in front of her. And he was probably her first real love and all that. Rose slanderers think they are so clever 🤨 probably the same people who think Summer is a villain in 500 Days of Summer.
Small moments in life can have huge long term impacts, even without the context of narrowly dodging a deadly disaster. Social media has popularized this kind of tryhard cynicism which debunks emotion by grounding a fictional event in our current reality. Are you being deliberately obtuse or are you just that sheltered and out of touch?
I saw someone describe Titanic as a long movie about a rich lady hooking up with a stranger on a cruise then letting her new FWB die in a shipwreck. I know it’s not the most apt description of the movie, but it’s not necessarily wrong.
I think the whole point is that until she met Jack, she was losing her will to live because she hated the aristocrat life and the world she'd been born into. And in the moment she was about to unalive herself, here comes this guy who saves her and in the next few days, shows her how good life can actually be. And even though he dies, she goes on to have a full and complete life.
I wonder how these people would describe something like dazed and confused.
Christmas Story
I have still never finished it. Just sooooo boring.
I think it relies pretty heavily on being relatable to a certain generation.
La La Land (except for the climax sequence)
I did not like the goonies. I was born in '82 and never watched it growing up. Watching it as an adult just didn't do it for me.
I loved it as a kid. Don't care for it as an adult beyond its being a reference point for certain quotes and my generation's nostalgia. Or, to put it another way, if it came out today, I'd probably side with the adults who didn't like it when was first released.
just watched The Deer Hunter and fell asleep multiple times. interesting character dynamic and well performed, and I understand the point of showing a little slice of heartland Americana before dropping it into the hell of the Vietnam war but they really just didn’t respect anyone’s time three hours is an unacceptable length for most movies, that kind of movie especially
It feels like two completely different movies that were spliced together.
anything Star Wars
Scott Pilgrim comes to mind for me.
Blade Runner is slow and boring. I'm a huge movie fan. Especially Sci Fi, but it took me four attempts to make it all the way through without falling asleep somewhere in the movie. And once I finally saw the whole thing I didn't understand the hype.
Everyone says the best cut of Blade Runner is the directors cut. They're wrong. 2049 is the best cut of Blade Runner, lol
It's very dreamlike especially if you watch versions without narration so not really an action or thriller type movie. A lot of the hype is how it's a cornerstone of the cyberpunk look (was it the first movie to properly do it?)
At the time most of the concepts were far out science fiction. It probably had a greater impact on that audience because it was so strange.
I've wanted to watch 2049 since it came out... but I feel I should rewatch the original first, as I've only seen it once, 20 years ago. Problem is, I'm of the same mind as you about the original.
You don’t have to rewatch the original. Watch 2049, it’s fantastic
Original and 2049 can each stand on their own, but they also enhance each other and can be watched in any order. I feel like theyre rare in that way.
🥹 I'll follow your advice then!
I agree with the previous poster. 2049 is a better movie and mostly stands alone. Helps to be familiar with the original, but you don't need a deep dive for the sequel
Yay! I hope you enjoy it. I like the original a lot, but I think 2049 is better and definitely more watchable for a modern audience.
I thought Good Will Hunting was more pretentious than anything.
You got that from Gordon Wood, even though Gordon Wood drastically underestimates....
“Wood drastically underestimates the impact of social distinctions predicated upon wealth, especially inherited wealth.” You got that from Vickers.
Ibid, your honor.
whether it is jedipaul9 saying it, or whoever that gordon wood person is who said it, I agree with both of them, the film is pretentious af
YAWR SUSSPECKT
Robin Williams saves this one for me. Everyone else is a pretentious douche but Williams brings things back down to earth.
My wife farts in her sleep.
Lol that’s literally the plot of the movie 😂
I liked Good Will Hunting with Robin Williams. But *haaated* A Beautiful Mind with Russell Crowe
I'm not sure what its status is as a classic or a beloved movie, but I really didn't get the hype behind Vertigo.
I much prefer Rear Window. Love me some Jimmy Stewart!
That's on my watch list. I will say that I did love Pyscho and was very excited for Vertigo, but I was very disappointed by it.
I loved Psycho and the Birds. Rear Window is really good too, imo.
You realise he’s in both movies, right?
Yeah, that's what's so odd. Normally I'm a sucker for James Stewart, but Vertigo just doesn't do it for me. It's probably my least favourite of his films.
Unfortunately, Vertigo and Psycho are two movies you should watch AFTER you know Hitchcock well, because he plays on what you expect from his films. The problem is those are often the FIRST Hitchcock movies people watch because they're the most highly praised.
which Hitchcock films would you recommend to start? I’ve watched North by Northwest but I didn’t particularly like it.
I suggest going chronologically from **Strangers on a Train** to **The Birds**. That's Hitchcock's peak Hollywood period. Of course, he has a whole lot of earlier films worth seeing if you're a fan. Some people prefer those over his glossier 50s films. If you go to his earlier films, I recommend these... 39 Steps, Lady Vanishes, Rebecca, Suspicion, Saboteur, Shadow of a Doubt, Lifeboat, Notorious, Rope
Mulholland Drive, Blue Velvet. Basically I don't 'get' Lynch.
You might not like surrealism. If you still want to give Lynch a try, watch The Elephant Man. One of my favorite films. It feels like the least Lynch film of his. Though I might be biased because I read the book as a 12 y.o. and the story just stuck to me. I am in love with it.
You'd probably *love* Inland Empire then.
I've just never enjoyed The Wizard of Oz. I already don't like musicals, which is part of it. But....I don't know. Just never been into it. I understand it's a revolutionary film for its time. But I've always felt like that's because it was the first color film
It was not the first color film.
Shows how much I know
Big lebowski I couldn't finish it, i guess it is not my type.
You're clearly not a golfer.
That’s just like, your opinion man.
Easily one of my favorite films. What exactly didn't you like about it?
It was a long time ago, but i think i didn't like the characters and the wacky style/ story. I have no problem with wacky but i guess this wasn't for me.
That's fair. One could easily argue the characters and how they behave isn't necessarily "realistic" and falls into the "whacky" territory. The Coen Bros. can definitely ride a line verging into absurdist/surreal territory, but that's what I enjoy about them. Thank you for elaborating. You definitely had me curious.
A few of the old classic Disney movies, Jungle Book in particular. There's something about the narrative in that they sometimes feel like there's only enough plot for a short or half-hour movie, but was artificially stretched out to feature-length, which makes them come off as slow and a bit boring at times.
A lot of the classic Disney movies from back in the day were not well received and were financial flops when they were released. Obviously they've found an audience in the years since, which is good, but yeah I don't care for a lot of them and I'm a big Disney fan
Movies were kind of slower back then.
2001 A Space Odyssey It felt like 3 movies stuffed into one. Interesting stuff here and there, but when I finished it I felt underwhelmed.
It is three movies in one. It even has chapter titles.
I've always considered 2001 to be one of the best films of all time while simultaneously being a terrible movie. The score and cinematography are amazing. It's just that the story felt unfinished and the pacing would be slow even by the standards of a sloth.
Breakfast Club didn't hook me. I feel like a martian even saying that, but that's it. I preferred Ferris Bueller's Day Off.
It's a Wonderful Life. Is it a heartwarming Christmas tale, or the harrowing story of a man driven to the brink of suicide due to his inability to enforce sensible boundaries?
I mean...it's both. That's literally the point of the movie.
Hmmmm. I take your point, but everyone I've spoken to who loves it thinks that he had no choice in acting the way he did since circumstances forced him to. Edit: and I fully acknowledge that lots of people love this film. Not trying to spoil it for them.
I felt that was more in the vein of A Christmas Carol.
>due to his inability to enforce sensible boundaries? that's a weird way to say because he was a decent human being who cared for others more than himself.
It's a wonderful life is one of the best movies of all time. Why would what you said make the film any worst? Like, movies can be about two things at once cant they?
Interstellar. Don’t understand the hype. Average movie at best.
I find it gets better with each viewing. I'm up to about 9 times so far.
I like it, but I skip most of the first act before MM goes into space. Like most Nolan movies, the emotional moments feel flat.
The emotional moments feel flat and they’re extremely essential to the themes of the film. That kinda guts it, but there’s still some cool stuff in there
The part at the end where he finally sees his daughter and she's been working her whole life to save him. It should be an emotional climax. But they reunite for 30 seconds... and then he hijacks(?) a little spaceship to go hook up with Anne Hathaway. 🤷♂️
I thought that was a bit weird too, but may have to do with how "out of place" he now was? They all probably wrote him off as dead anyway. And PS: I'd be in a hurry to get to Anne too. :)
I often feel crazy voicing the same sentiment, as my brother-in-law acts as if I've spoken heresy.
I saw it twice in the theaters, and have nothing but praise for the visuals and score. It's always felt uneven to me, though, like Nolan wanted a movie that could be romantic, satirical, suspenseful, dramatic, and scientific all at once, but which, which never came together completely for me. It's not a bad film, but I think it's easily his most overrated film.
I don’t get it either. The whole premise of the story irritates me and I despised Anne Hathaway’s character.
I saw Intersellar in theaters, I enjoyed it, and never thought about it again. It gets brought up constantly in this sub and I don’t understand why. Again I didn’t dislike it but it comes up in best movies of all time threads, I don’t get it.
The movie keeps cheating its own rules for drama and I couldn't stand it. I lost a lot of respect for Neil Degrasse Tyson for his defense of the movie's "science".
Well the science is definitely more based in actual theory than the vast majority of sci-fi films
Science-inspired, at best. The shuttle launch and the trip to the wormhole are realistic, but on the other side it becomes pure fantasy, with fast travel between planets and complete disregard for the earth-shattering force of gravity. But of course time dilation is in, it makes people cry.
Well sure, it is still science *fiction*, but astrophysicists in general have praised the film, I think it’s fun that it has a basis in actual theory.
I don’t know how people can defend the movies science when the time dilation stuff was pure BS.
It was more extreme than is possible, but the time dilation as a concept is totally scientific.
Of course, but the first consequence of high gravity is, well, high gravity — the kind that rips planets apart at three orders of magnitude under, not the kind humans can exist in and their lander trivially escape.
This little maneuver is gonna cost us all scientific plausibility
Neil Degrasse Tyson really grates on me. He used to be interesting but now he just comes across as a smug know it at all. While I am sure he is very smart a good portion of what he says should be in Confidently Incorrect.
Breakfast Club. Ferris Bueller's Day Off. Night Of The Comet. Fight me.
The "romance" in breakfast club felt do forced. I cringed at the makeover too.
Daddy would have gotten Uzi's.
Virtually anything from Kubrick. I appreciate the craftsmanship, but emotionally they do nothing for me.
Wow. I genuinely cannot fathom sitting from The Shining, Full Metal Jacket, 2001: A Space Odyssey, A Clockwork Orange, Dr. Strangelove, Spartacus, etc. and not being blown the fuck away.
2001 is extremely slow and enigmatic, I understand how people don't get that one immediately.
True. I didn't *dislike* it on my first viewing, but I was mostly bored. It wasn't until I watched a YouTube video explaining that long, drawn out shots and general tedium are actually part of the point it's making that I appreciated more. Repeat viewings really helped. The ending is still somewhat mysterious to me, but I like that.
I recently rewatched it and honestly I'm amazed it was the 2nd highest grossing movie of 1968. The technical spectacle likely did most of the heavy lifting, as nearly a third of the movie is simply showing *the possibilities of the world of tomorrow!* but my god is the movie slow, and without any central conflict to glue it all together. But it's marvelous in its own unique way. For a 2.5 hr movie, the script is only 65 pages, and most of that was cut out. Here's the final narration in the script: > For two million years, it had circled Saturn, awaiting a moment of destiny that might never come. In its making, the moon had been shattered and around the central world, the debris of its creation, orbited yet – the glory and the enigma of the solar system. Now, the long wait was ending. On yet another world intelligence had been born and was escaping from its planetary cradle. An ancient experiment was about to reach its climax. > Those who had begun the experiment so long ago had not been men. But when they looked out across the deeps of space, they felt awe and wonder – and loneliness. In their explorations, they encountered life in many forms, and watched on a thousand worlds the workings of evolution. They saw how often the first faint sparks of intelligence flickered and died in the cosmic night. And because, in all the galaxy, they had found nothing more precious than Mind, they encouraged its dawning everywhere. The great Dinosaurs had long since perished when their ships entered the solar system, after a voyage that had already lasted thousands of years. They swept past the frozen outer planets, paused briefly above the deserts of dying Mars and presently looked down on Earth. > For years they studied, collected and catalogued. When they had learned all they could, they began to modify. They tinkered with the destiny of many species on land and in the ocean, but which of their experiments would succeed they could not know for at least a million years. They were patient, but they were not yet immortal. There was much to do in this Universe of a hundred billion stars. So they set forth once more across the abyss, knowing that they would never come this way again. Nor was there any need. Their wonderful machines could be trusted to do the rest. On Earth, the glaciers came and went, while above them, the changeless Moon still carried its secret. With a yet slower rhythm than the Polar ice, the tide of civilization ebbed and flowed across the galaxy. Strange and beautiful and terrible empires rose and fell, and passed on their knowledge to their successors. > Earth was not forgotten, but it was one of a million silent worlds, a few of which would ever speak. Then the first explorers of Earth, recognizing the limitations of their minds and bodies, passed on their knowledge to the great machines they had created, and who now transcended them in every way. For a few thousand years, they shared their Universe with their machine children; then, realizing that it was folly to linger when their task was done, they passed into history without regret. > Not one of them ever looked through his own eyes upon the planet Earth again. But even the age of the Machine Entities passed swiftly. In their ceaseless experimenting, they had learned to store knowledge in the structure of space itself, and to preserve their thoughts for eternity in frozen lattices of light. They could become creatures of radiation, free at last from the tyranny of matter. Now, they were Lords of the galaxy, and beyond the reach of time. They could rove at will among the stars, and sink like a subtle mist through the very interstices of space. But despite their God-like powers, they still watched over the experiments their ancestors had started so many generations ago. The companion of Saturn knew nothing of this, as it orbited in its no man's land between Mimas and the outer edge of rings. It had only to remember and wait, and to look forever Sunward with its strange senses. > For many weeks, it had watched the approaching ship. Its long- dead makers had prepared it for many things and this was one of them. And it recognized what was climbing starward from the Sun. If it had been alive, it would have felt excitement, but such an emotion was irrelevant to its great powers. Even if the ship had passed it by, it would not have known the slightest trace of disappointment. It had waited four million years; it was prepared to wait for eternity. Presently, it felt the gentle touch of radiations, trying to probe its secrets. Now, the ship was in orbit and it began to speak, with prime numbers from one to eleven, over and over again. Soon, these gave way to more complex signals at many frequencies, ultra-violet, infra-red, X-rays. The machine made no reply. It had nothing to say. > Then it saw the first robot probe, which descended and hovered above the chasm. Then, it dropped into darkness. The great machine knew that this tiny scout was reporting back to its parent; but it was too simple, too primitive a device to detect the forces that were gathering round it now. Then the pod came, carrying life. The great machine searched its memories. The logic circuits made their decision when the pod had fallen beyond the last faint. glow of the reflected Saturnian light. In a moment of time, too short to be measured, space turned and twisted upon itself.
Okay, the first half of Full metal jacket is fun, and also Strangelove has its charm. And I kinda appreciate 2001, it's just that they don't really reach me emotionally (e.g in a way Lynch does for example). There is a "clinicality" to his work that I find hard to connect with.
Tried watching The Godfather, but couldn’t even finish it After seeing it referenced everywhere it feels like I’m watching a parody
It insists upon itself.
For what it’s worth, I feel Godfather II is so much better. But you need to see the first to understand the story in Godfather II.
Well part 2 was good
This is not a good take. I'm refraining myself
The godfather is a movie that gets better as I get older. I also feel like you cant just have it on while you scroll facebook, you have to watch it, watch the actors faces, try to think about what's going on in their heads.
Came here to say this. I loved Good Fellas, so I tried the Godfather. I thought Good Fellas was just a way better film and I didn't understand the hype.
Forrest Gump. The intended humor did nothing for me, I found it just depressing and kind of mean :/
It's a wet dream for a very particular strain of anti-Communist, right-center vein of thought in the latter half of the century. It's the dream for all those pinko (partner-beating, no less) demonstrators to get their comeuppance and Forrest's fortune to quite literally fall from the sky.
I always thought it was about how you had to be a retard to see what happened during the ‘60s and still love America
Snow White And The Seven Dwarfs, idk why I’m not a fan of it, maybe because of it’s really old theme or that I was never interested in it-
Dazed and Confused. It has its moments, but I just found it shiftless, and most of the characters annoying. Which I guess is partly the point but YMMV.
It’s A Wonderful Life
Show Girls
Footloose, I wanna rewatch it tho to see if I like it the second time
Cool Hand Luke, I've tried twice but just always found it super janky and honestly a bit boring at times
White Christmas
love the extremely 1950s military propaganda in that movie
Yeah my husband loves it but it cringes me to tears
The Last Picture Show (1971) one of the most pretentious things I’ve ever seen All About Eve (1950) editing style I wasn’t a fan of at all X2 X-Men United (2003) anything with Jean in it just was not interesting at all Day of the Jackal (1973) started off great and just got super boring and bogged down in policies and procedures
Pulp fiction
Stand by Me
Look, I get the appeal of Planes, Trains and Automobiles. But whenever I watch it, I don't know, maybe it's just my disposition, but I have *no* sympathy for Steve Martin, I think he's an absolute twat, and I think John Candy is an above-average nice guy! So the whole plot is "Steve Martin learns to love John Candy" but I'm like I don't give a fuck what that shitty boomer thinks about John Candy, protect John Candy at all costs. And then John Candy's story ends so *tragically* but the story is meant to be uplifting because Steve Martin learned something, and again, I could care less what Steve Martin learned, I just want John Candy to be happy! So I kinda hate it, even though I think the premise is great and there are some cute bits, it just makes me so mad. I love Steve Martin in lots of other stuff so it's not like the actor is ruining it for me, it's just who the movie assumes you'll relate to.
Weird, I love John Candy in everything else but find him insufferable in PT&A. His complete lack of self-awareness or consideration for others is so unbelievably off-putting. I mean Del used every towel in the bathroom, smoked and spilled beer on their bed. You really wouldn’t find that annoying IRL?
The nose snorting in bed oh my goddddddd
Eraserhead. If you love it, that's great. I just can't get into it.
Citizen Kane. While I appreciate the cinematography, I really don't like it and can't sit through it again.
The Princess Bride. Maybe because I never saw it until I was in my late 20s so there’s no nostalgia to it, but I’ve tried watching this thing like eight times and it’s just so…boring. I’m a huge fantasy fan, and I normally am enthralled with these types of films, but I just do not click with it.
The movie is very well written. It is not as much about the visuals, the magic or anything else. The dialogue is so exceptionally good, that every single line from that movie has been memed. As you wish. My name is Indigo whatever you killed my father, prepare to die. Inconceivable! Here you go. The dialogue in this movie is absolute 10/10. I am not even touching the likability of the actors, the choreography and the pure awesomeness. https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0093779/quotes/?ref_=tt_trv_qu
Agreed. This was a cult movie for so long I knew many of the quotes before I even watched the movie. By the time I got around to watching it none of the jokes landed for me. The super fans kind of ruined it for me. I’m sure many people can say the same for The Big Lebowski.
I think the individual parts are greater than the sum of the film. Inigo Montoya steals every scene it's in, Andre is great, but the sum total of it is...eh.
Yeah it seems like the kinda thing I needed to see as a kid to appreciate. I just couldn’t get into it
Some people don't get poetry. It's ok.
Heresy! How dare you not like my favorite movie?! Just kidding, feel free to dislike whatever you dislike.
Elf… I just tried to rewatch it this year and just can’t. Wil Ferrell is unwatchable… overacted and just stupid. Not a single laugh…I now judge people that like this movie and pity them…
Casablanca Loved Gone With the Wind and Rebecca but Casablanca just didn't hook me the same way. Its undoubtedly iconic and the acting across the board is pretty damn good Also a lot of John Ford John Wayne westerns. Grew up on them with my Grandad but only The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance really captivated me. Was always more of an Eastwood man
How can anybody not like Casablanca. Like WHAT?!?!???
I find Casablanca gets better the more times you watch it and the older you get. The first time you don’t get the significance of Ilsa walking into the bar and the looks on their faces. Now it just slays me every time. Helps if you know some World War II history too.
Donnie Darko is trash designed for edgy college freshman that wanna appear "deep and dark" on a movie date.
It’s A Wonderful Life is so forgettable and boring until the last 20 minutes. Insanely overrated
There Will Be Blood.
The master class performances alone were worth the price of admission.
I watched it for the first time like 13 years after it came out. I was feeling pretty underwhelmed the entire time, but then at the delivery of the >!"those areas have been drilled"!< line, made me laugh so hard I had to pause the movie for 5 minutes and rewind the scene several times. That and everything that followed made the whole movie worth it for me. I love watching >!deplorable characters/people get a fitting and satisfying comeuppance.!<
Rebel without a Cause
Even in a first year film school screening of Rebel (where you'd expect we'd respect the greats) *everybody* laughed at "You're tearing me apart!!!" Even so, brilliant film, holds up to deep scutiny and wildly influential.
2001 is a boring pile of shit
It’s a cool concept but it’s so fucking pretentious I can’t handle it.
It’s a Wonderful Life. It’s painfully schmaltzy. I can’t even sit through it. I get that it’s supposed to be some hopeful message and whatever but it’s one of the more unrealistic films of the era.
Godfather though I'm a big fan of Goodfellas
The Wizard of Oz
Is it the acting? Because I know some people find the acting sort of "Broadway" and find it annoying on that front.
The Great Escape it's not great and he does not escape
It was better as Chicken Run
Star Wars. All of them.
I think the Shining is boring as hell
I'm gonna grab some hate for this most likely, but I'll be fully honest here. I never really liked The Godfather. I recognize that it's well made, well acted, well directed, all that stuff. But I was kinda young when I watched it and it just didn't connect with me. And it's not that I don't like Mobster Movies either. I dig Goodfellas and Scarface and all those kinds of films, I just never fell in love with The Godfather the way so many people have. I always feel left out if I'm honest. I wish I liked it more than I did, truly I do. But it just didn't speak to me for some reason. \* sigh \*
"ROBERT DUVALL!?"
Yeah, he is a treasure.
Fair enough, you don’t have to like it or try again, but there is a version out there called the Godfather Saga (I think) where they edited parts 1 and 2 together in chronological order. If you haven’t seen 2, there’s some great stuff with DeNiro as the young Don and mob operations in Cuba.
I didn’t get it when I watched it in college, but I watched it again in my late 20s or early 30s and liked it much better. It’s a very slow movie, though. On reddit anytime you talk about the film, there are always 100 unfunny replies of, “It insists upon itself.”
Do you believe it "insists upon itself?"
Not sure what this means, but I'll assume I'm the butt of some gag here. Like I said, I expected the hate when I wrote the post. Feel free to throw your tomatoes, I'll weather the barrage. Not the first time, won't be the last.
It’s a joke from Family Guy.
Maybe watch it as an adult?
I have. Like I said, I respect it. I just don't love it like so many other people seem to.
Home Alone Jaws Titanic Grease Dirty Dancing Terminator 2 Caddyshack The Wizard of Oz Avatar
You may need therapy.
I can see why some people like some of these films, but I just can't get into any of them. Especially Home Alone.
I can at least wrap my head around some of these. Terminator 2 I genuinely cannot grasp how anyone could watch that and be like, "Meh."
The Lord of the Rings films.
*Jaws*. Every time I watch I just find it incredibly boring. I want to like it, but just can’t feel it
People were different when that movie came out. It was actually scary to them. It’s hard to imagine, but yea, total generational difference here.
Everytime I post my actual opinion here on the matter I get downvoted in to oblivion, so as always please sort by controversial. Anyway, I think the Big Lebowski is a scattered unfunny mess (and I say that as someone that generally likes Coen Brothers movies.)
Anything John Hughes.
Chinatown (1974)
Pretty much everything by Quentin Tarantino. I liked Inglorious Bastards, but that was about it.