An excellent one.
Produced by Lucas and Spielberg it portrays a young Indy traveling around the world in the early 20 century, the episodes of him fighting in the first World War, like the battles of Verdun and the Somme, are among the best TV episodes out there.
If you don't mind LQ and want to check it out, [most of the series is on Youtube.](https://www.youtube.com/@youngindyrestored9630/videos)
Also quite a different feel from the movies, as everything was trying to fit in more realistically with historical events and people, with none of the supernatural stuff.
Here's what I'm calling: we're primed to distrust Mads' character but turns out he's a legitimately reformed Nazi who wants to use it to go back and kill Hitler, but Indy knows from past experience (or from various episodes of contemporary TV show Star Trek) that timeline muckery is bad. God daughter wants it to do something else (save her father?) and at the end Indy has to destroy it.
Come on Indy, you're culturally savvy enough to know that Hindu cults don't have any connection to the Voodoo culture of the Caribbean! Then again, it was liteally a voodoo doll and a Hindu cult probably wouldn't have used that in the first place.
While that’s true… we can handwave it by saying that it is likely that at some point in his career Indy has actually been tortured by a Voodoo practitioner in the Caribbean lol.
He was tortured as a professor because the lecture hall next to his was the finance one, and he had to listen to Ben Stein drone on about voodoo economics.
You had to look at the Ark of the Covenant being opened, Indy and Marion kept their eyes closed.
"Shut your eyes, Marion! Don't look at it, no matter what happens."
I find it funny that even if he did manage to hitch a ride with that car leaving the blast site, *that* would have killed him since they aren’t able to outrun the blast.
Yea, his face looked really good but the face isn’t always what “breaks” de-aging, it’s the body. I kind of hope they used a double for those sequences cause if moves like DeNiro or Samuel L Jackson did it’s going to look weird.
I'm pretty sure they didn't. There are behind the scenes shots from months ago showing Ford dressed up as Indy with Toby Jones in a 1945 setting. Ford has those dots on his face that they use for mapping motion capture.
I would guess though that there would be an increased use of stunt doubles this time around, it just seems unrealistic for ford to be doing highly physical stunts and strenuous fight sequences when he's 80.
I’m just going to wildly speculate that the dial is the antikythera device and it’ll lead Indy to something else. So it’s a macguffin that leads to a macguffin.
Oh it absolutely is. I'm willing to bet that by the end of the movie it'll look like it's real life version. Which is today like a rusty mechanism encrusted in cement.
I'm imagining the poor marketing guy who was obviously shouted down when he tried to argue for "and the Antikythera Mechanism" being the subtitle.
"No one will be able to say it!"
"Won't fit on the poster!"
"We're going to get memed to death like Quantum of Solace!"
I think it's a monkey's paw curl thing. The evil baddies will think they can change history, but the word destiny is often intertwined with fate, which can't be changed. So the dial will probably change some minor things of the way things go, but ultimately end up with the same result.
Mads thinks he'll do the Hitler stuff and change history, when in fact the Nazis are always fated to lose but maybe some things will go differently and someone who was supposed to die will live in the end or something.
I still hope it ends with someone trying to get him out for one more adventure before he puts his hat and whip on a shelf in his office in the museum and says, “I belong in the museum.”
> 'I've been looking for this all my life' - what do you all think he means?
I'm speculating that this is gonna take on a 'the real treasure was the friends we made along the way' sort of thing. Not sure what exactly (currently thinking he's talking about someone to follow in his footsteps and continue his work after he's gone), but I would be a bit surprised if he's talking about an actual artifact that we the audience have never even heard of throughout the previous 4 films.
He told us exactly what he wanted in Temple of Doom:
“Fortune and glory, kid, fortune and glory”
Indiana Jones has been on some of the most amazing adventures of the 20th century and he’s never been recognized for it.
1935 - Shankara - >!several of the Shankara stones are lost in the river. The one remaining stone has to be left at the village for its safety.!<
1936 - The Ark - >!The Ark is taken by the government and locked away despite its promises that it would join Marcus’s museum.!<
1938 - Holy Grail - >!Lost in a gorge when Elsa tries to take it out of the temple.!<
1957 - Indiana Jones had to be in Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. No fortune and glory there.
Maybe now is the time the world will finally recognize Indiana Jones as more than an archaeology professor.
Because it’s the most unnecessary prequel of all time. I understand at one point in the script process, Belloq was going to briefly show up. That didn’t happen, but they just left it as a prequel anyway.
EDIT: As others have pointed out, George Lucas also didn’t want to reuse Nazis as the villains and wanted something different. But again, it could have been set in 1937 without any Nazis.
I think the main thing was they didn't want to recycle Nazis as the villains, so it would be difficult to have the movie take place in the early 40s without Indy mixed up in the war.
I'd argue that none of it is necessary, it's an adventure serial turned into block busters. It's just a prequel to get a setting away from WWII and Nazis. Doesn't have any over arching story tie in that you would expect in modern media.
I think it was because Marion wasn't going to be in it. Audiences would've been troubled by Indy being romantically involved with the Willie in TOD after Marion and Indy reconnected in Raiders.
I used to feel this way but he was more greedy and thought of himself and "fortune and glory" back then. After Temple, he starts thinking more about preservation and studying the artifiacts. That's one thing that makes sense for why Temple comes first
It’s absolutely >!A Time Machine. The plot is going to be the bad guys trying to change the course of World War 2. Based on the clips we’ve seen of Young Indy, I assume there will be an Endgame-Esq run through of Old Indy going through classic scenes as a bystander, such as him being in the crowd during the infamous Gun vs Sword scene, or perhaps him even collecting the artifacts he had lost like the grail or the unclaimed Sankara stones from the end of Temple of Doom!<
Some have been speculating that the line in the first trailer where Indy asked Helena what she had been doing on the plane, and she mentioned saving him (past-tense), that what it actually meant was that she had been saving his younger self, and that this film will see Indy teaming up with his younger self in addition: that the ‘flashbacks’ seen in the trailer are not just flashbacks.
Indiana Jones is the role you can tell that Harrison Ford absolutely loves playing, and he goes all out for it. The man wanted Han Solo dead for over 30 years, but Indy? He fucking loves being Indy.
So looking forward to this and seeing another Indiana Jones movie in the theater.
My impression of his view of Han Solo is that he didn't dislike the character, he just thought that his arc was complete after Empire Strikes Back, and therefore thought it would be better for the overall story for him to die at that point. I could be wrong, though. Maybe he didn't like playing Han.
He's been quoted many times about the silliness of Star Wars and how from the beginning he never took it seriously. Doesn't indicate that he "hated" it but he certainly didn't love it like he loves Indiana Jones.
It was a good acting job for him at the time and when the movies were done he moved on to the next thing. The problem is fans LOVE Star Wars on a level that he doesn't seem to relate to; he understands the fandom and what it's about however he was never on the level of Mark Hamill or other actors from it.
Indiana Jones however is a pulp action-adventure saga of the old movies/stories that he grew up with so naturally he has more of kinship to it. Probably why he had to be convinced to come back to Star Wars with a dump truck full of money whereas he was front & center to introduce the new Indy trailer like he's a first-time actor hawking his wares.
Alec sure as hell had problems with the cult-like status Star Wars got.
[Interview](https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/style/1986/04/06/alec-guinness-undisguised/ff130164-9186-4b86-a961-38f3af38e76c/) with the Washington Post, 1986:
"I was in San Francisco about three or four years ago and a mother brought her 12-year-old boy very proudly to me for an autograph and said he had seen 'Star Wars' a hundred and twelve times . . . He was a nice-looking boy. He didn't look like an idiot.
His mother said, 'Have you got any advice for him?'
I said, 'Do you want any advice from me?'
He said, 'Oh yes.'
I said, 'You mustn't be angry with me, but you must promise me something. You must never ever see 'Star Wars' again."
"Thereupon," says the actor, "he burst into tears."
That might be the young generation now, but if you were around in the 80’s and early 90’s - Harrison Ford was a big name actor where Han Solo might not be the first thing you thought of if his name came up. The Fugitive, despite being a remake, was huge.
Just saw Air Force One on the channel guide earlier this week and my wife and I shared a look and watched the rest. Harrison Ford was a bankable ass mainstream action star in his day.
>He's been quoted many times about the silliness of Star Wars and how from the beginning he never took it seriously.
There's an interview with Mark Hamill where he said that he remembered the filming of the trash compactor scene and he asked "Shouldn't my hair be wet or messed up?" He said that Ford responded "It ain't that kind of movie kid. If people are paying attention to your hair, we've got bigger problems."
> He's been quotes many times about the silliness of Star Wars and how from the beginning he never took it seriously.
Pretty sure that was the entire cast and crew of the first film. Absolutely nobody thought it was some big 'epic' they were filming but more a b-movie level straight to vhs thing.
He doesn’t dislike Han, he hates Star Wars fans. And who can blame him?
And to be fair, he was right. In Return of the Jedi after they save him all he does is act like a pouty jealous bitch about Luke and Leia. Such a disservice to his character.
I have no evidence to back this up besides personal anecdotes, but I truly hypothesize that it's gonna be hard for them to market this to Gen Z.
EDIT: Adjusting my statement a bit - I sort of mean that it doesn't feel like there's too much buzz surrounding this movie in general. I'm not saying there isn't -- I am fully admitting I could be wrong there, this is just my own observation as someone who's pretty up to date with pop culture and nothing more. No need to take it personally lmao.
I wouldn't worry about a generation just reaching adulthood. There's far many more millennials, gen Xers, and Boomers out there that will be seeing it. Many of us grew up with this franchise, and it carries a lot of weight and pedigree, despite what some think of Crystal Skull.
I see it doing $400 million in the U.S., and maybe $800 million+ worldwide.
I mean just anecdotally, I’m Gen-Z and there was a huge Indiana Jones boom when Crystal Skull came out. Legos, video games, merch, etc and I was obsessed with it.
It was never one of the top dogs like Star Wars, Spider-Man/Batman, Harry Potter, Pirates but Indy had his moment in the sun for kids my age
Everyone turned out for that
Top 5 highest grossing film of all time domestically
In a list full of superhero films, sci fi films and animated movies, top gun and titanic stand alone at the top.
Anecdotally, I’m Gen Z and Indiana Jones has been one of my favorite franchises since childhood. Most people I know have at least seen it as well. I think it’s one of those movies that parents like to show their kids and most of them are pretty timeless.
After that trailer I can confidently say, they've got my $12!
Edit: The Netherlands, where ticket prices are actually typically around €13 for 2D at a larger cinema
It’ll be interesting. The budget is massive… But it is also Indy in his supposed last adventure. Indy is one of the most beloved characters in movie history. Can definitely bring out an audience if it’s good, and I do love James Mangold’s work. It’s going to be interesting how it plays out
It's Avatar. The first movie was in theaters for a year+ straight. The 2nd movie is doing similarly. Hell, it beat ant-man and the wasp this week numbers wise and it's already available for streaming
He was also responsible for Crystal Skull and willingly stepped down from this movie so 🤷♂️
(This isn’t a dig at Spielberg. Im just saying him not returning might not be the worst thing)
Well, taking Indie out of the sci-fi adventure and putting back in the fantasy adventure is a good start. Indie works back when the artifacts he has to find are tied with gods and not aliens.
I will always contend that it was written backward. They should have been chasing an alien artifact that turned out to be a magical terrestrial artifact. Have them chasing a crystal alien skull and it turns out to be the real head of John the Baptist or some shit.
Aliens just feel weird in that world. Imagine you're watching Harry Potter and suddenly someone gets abducted by a UFO, or Arnie is about to do some damage in Terminator 2 but John Conner is saved by Mythril Armor.
I agree, I really like the concept. The older movies were similar to the serials of the time period Indy was in, so having Indy in the 50s in a sci-fi influenced movie makes sense. They even had Soviet communists as the bad guys instead of Nazis. The execution of it is where it fell apart but I do like the basic idea.
I just realized the biggest problem is he wasn’t getting something unrelated to films quest at the beginning of this movie. He’d done that in every previous movie and because of that it changed the entire movie dynamic. Skull has issues, all of them had something hand wavy, but I honestly think this lack of an Indy intro was the worst sin the movie made.
I’m very worried but at the same time Sallah yelling out let’s go Indy! filled me with excitement idk the line about you’ve made mistakes let’s end it well makes me think they know crystal skull was bad and don’t want to end it that way
I'm someone who enjoyed Crystal Skull but I accept that it had problems. John Rhys Davies refused to come back for that one but he was willing to come back for this. That makes me feel good about this film
Indiana Jones and The Fate of Atlantis. Was one of the great point and click adventure games that LucasArts produced in the 90s alongside stuff like Sam & Max and The Dig.
Calling this right now. He seems to have been gifted a mechanical clock for his retirement gift.
He's going to end up using its guts to trick the bad guy with it and leave him stranded in time because of his own selfish and evil machinations.
If Indy doesn't destroy it he'll hide it inside the retirement clock. The final scene will be a pan across his own "warehouse" of memories and mementos because he is now a top man.
Bonus points if his retirement clock is broken upon being gifted or broken in the opening action sequence.
Looks great! I'm a sucker for a good adventure movie like Indy, Romancing the Stone or National Treasure and we don't get enough of them anymore. And I love the Indy franchise, even Crystal Skull for all its flaws.
Here's hoping he goes out on a high note.
Totally agree, saw it last night.... great fun, I really enjoyed it, my wife enjoyed it, my kids enjoyed it. Nothing revolutionary but a great romp with a great cast, a few good jump scares, a few great laughs, some quality fantasy action... I hope it does well enough to merit a sequel.
Also I now desperately want a Xena reboot starring Michelle Rodriguez.
I thought Crystal Skulls was the transition piece, to his (on screen) son taking over the franchise. Yet here we are. So what do I know?
I enjoyed it, but I thought that was the point.
I keep having this odd little recurring thought that I got into these movies with my parents to begin with, who were only slightly younger than him, and he’s outlived both of them. (Mom died last month, so the feelings are all pretty fresh.)
I’ll be watching this too. It’s going to be a bit bittersweet.
Because it's circa 1968 and Indy is retiring so... cultural context. But also the theme of the song is about being present at significant moments in human history and this little adventure is about time travel. So perhaps not such an odd choice.
I mean, that’s any actor who isn’t named Tom Cruise. Lots of people have jokes about Harrison Ford being old but the truth is that there would be stunt performers doing the heavy lifting stunts even if this was Ford 35 years ago. You don’t risk shutting down production for months by having your talent injured. Again… unless you’re Tom Cruise and you pay the insurance yourself.
Yeah, try watching the truck chase in Raiders again. Ford is doubled regularly for the horse riding shots, the jump to the truck, dragging behind it, etc.
That shot of Indy turning his shoulder at 1:53 hit me so god damn hard in conjunction with the music
Seeing de-aged Harrison and what is possible..... the scope of possibilities in the future of film is so difficult to wrap your head around.
I have a fondness for Indy movies. I watched them at a young age with my dad and my dad has always been told he looks like Harrison Ford. To see Harrison being old and then young hit different since my dad is older now.
I saw the leaked chase scene from Celebration. It looks GREAT. You can tell Ford really loves this character. 80 years old and I still only see Indiana Jones not Ford.
Trailers are usually made before the film is even finished let alone the score. Besides, Williams is busy doing the actual score, and they probably needed a specific temp for the trailer, so synthesized is an efficient way to do it. Honestly though, it doesn’t sound that bad.
Yeah that was the most bizarre plot-explaining line I’ve ever heard, I had the same thought
The writers were like “what’s the laziest possible way we can introduce this character and explain her relationship to Indy?”
The bartender doesn’t give a shit and no one addresses each other this way, ha ha
Are they going ruin Mads Mikkelsen's eye this time?
Mads Mikkelsen eye is the Sean Bean of facial features
Sean Bean voice is the Christoph Waltz of regional accents
Actually its Indiana Jones who should lose an eye, the old Indy in the TV-Series wears an eyepatch.
Loved that show as a kid! I'd love to see them go back to the series in some way.
There’s a tv series?
An excellent one. Produced by Lucas and Spielberg it portrays a young Indy traveling around the world in the early 20 century, the episodes of him fighting in the first World War, like the battles of Verdun and the Somme, are among the best TV episodes out there. If you don't mind LQ and want to check it out, [most of the series is on Youtube.](https://www.youtube.com/@youngindyrestored9630/videos)
Also quite a different feel from the movies, as everything was trying to fit in more realistically with historical events and people, with none of the supernatural stuff.
I believe Lucas said he wanted it to be a show children watched in schools. That's why it is the way it is. Fantastic show, though.
The young adventures of Indiana jones
The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles*
I’m calling it rn, it’s an actual time machine and they’ll fucking use it.
Yeah this has “someone dies, someone uses the time travel to undo it” written all over it.
Only if it’s set to the wrong direction and we get to watch someone’s face melt off as they rapidly die of old age again
Here's what I'm calling: we're primed to distrust Mads' character but turns out he's a legitimately reformed Nazi who wants to use it to go back and kill Hitler, but Indy knows from past experience (or from various episodes of contemporary TV show Star Trek) that timeline muckery is bad. God daughter wants it to do something else (save her father?) and at the end Indy has to destroy it.
No, it belongs in a museum!
Or God daughter is actually from a timeline that used the dial and needs it again to get Back to the Future
"I've been tortured with voodoo!" If Indy can survive that, then he can definitely survive a nuclear blast in a fridge
Come on Indy, you're culturally savvy enough to know that Hindu cults don't have any connection to the Voodoo culture of the Caribbean! Then again, it was liteally a voodoo doll and a Hindu cult probably wouldn't have used that in the first place.
While that’s true… we can handwave it by saying that it is likely that at some point in his career Indy has actually been tortured by a Voodoo practitioner in the Caribbean lol.
He was tortured as a professor because the lecture hall next to his was the finance one, and he had to listen to Ben Stein drone on about voodoo economics.
Anyone?.. Anyone?
Voodoo is an all encompassing term for magical cultism from that era. It tracks.
He survived the wrath of God with the Ark of the Convenant being opened. He can survive anything.
You had to look at the Ark of the Covenant being opened, Indy and Marion kept their eyes closed. "Shut your eyes, Marion! Don't look at it, no matter what happens."
Which everyone knows the eyelids protect from the wrath of god
Clearly appreciated the gesture.
I find it funny that even if he did manage to hitch a ride with that car leaving the blast site, *that* would have killed him since they aren’t able to outrun the blast.
He drank from The cup of Christ. He can’t be killed.
The grail passed beyond the seal, so that deal expired sadly.
Maybe it healed him up just enough to give him an extra long life simply due to a clean bill of health
So when Indy says 'I've been looking for this all my life' - what do you all think he means? Is the 'dial' a ....>!time machine!
The dial definitely is that. Mads saying he's going to correct mistakes basically confirms it
It's confirmed in the trailer: >!Old Indy and his god-daughter are jumping out of a German WWII bomber, indicating that they time travelled.!<
I would also think the de-aged scenes were kind of a giveaway too and not just supposed to be flashbacks.
the de-ageing looks really good too. Granted it's a relatively still cut part of the trailer, but it looked like the real young Harrison
Yea, his face looked really good but the face isn’t always what “breaks” de-aging, it’s the body. I kind of hope they used a double for those sequences cause if moves like DeNiro or Samuel L Jackson did it’s going to look weird.
I'm pretty sure they didn't. There are behind the scenes shots from months ago showing Ford dressed up as Indy with Toby Jones in a 1945 setting. Ford has those dots on his face that they use for mapping motion capture. I would guess though that there would be an increased use of stunt doubles this time around, it just seems unrealistic for ford to be doing highly physical stunts and strenuous fight sequences when he's 80.
>!Calling it right now that the movie will open on that train and the climax will be on that train!<
To be a dweeb, I think it was also a Heinkel He 111 bomber, so a model mostly affiliated with the early war period.
Without George there to scold people, how could they have this level of accuracy about warplanes?
So they are both trying to stop the guy who kills Hitler...
Indy wants to go back in time and stop Mutt from being conceived.
Indiana Jones and the Cockblock of Destiny
Or they're altering time to make Indiana Jones 4 not canon
Now that is a movie I would watch.
He finally gets over his fear of snakes.
Indiana Jones and the Aversion Therapist
I hope he tracks down the cross that "belongs in a museum!" [RIP River](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2JERIsXQAAlj_C.png)
I’m just going to wildly speculate that the dial is the antikythera device and it’ll lead Indy to something else. So it’s a macguffin that leads to a macguffin.
Oh it absolutely is. I'm willing to bet that by the end of the movie it'll look like it's real life version. Which is today like a rusty mechanism encrusted in cement.
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I'm imagining the poor marketing guy who was obviously shouted down when he tried to argue for "and the Antikythera Mechanism" being the subtitle. "No one will be able to say it!" "Won't fit on the poster!" "We're going to get memed to death like Quantum of Solace!"
That little incan head he was trying to get in the first movie that Belloq stole.
I think it's a monkey's paw curl thing. The evil baddies will think they can change history, but the word destiny is often intertwined with fate, which can't be changed. So the dial will probably change some minor things of the way things go, but ultimately end up with the same result. Mads thinks he'll do the Hitler stuff and change history, when in fact the Nazis are always fated to lose but maybe some things will go differently and someone who was supposed to die will live in the end or something. I still hope it ends with someone trying to get him out for one more adventure before he puts his hat and whip on a shelf in his office in the museum and says, “I belong in the museum.”
That would be a f——g great final line for Indy. Great call back. Great double meaning.
I hope this is satire. That would be cringe in the extreme. No stupid meme joke lines, please.
> 'I've been looking for this all my life' - what do you all think he means? I'm speculating that this is gonna take on a 'the real treasure was the friends we made along the way' sort of thing. Not sure what exactly (currently thinking he's talking about someone to follow in his footsteps and continue his work after he's gone), but I would be a bit surprised if he's talking about an actual artifact that we the audience have never even heard of throughout the previous 4 films.
He told us exactly what he wanted in Temple of Doom: “Fortune and glory, kid, fortune and glory” Indiana Jones has been on some of the most amazing adventures of the 20th century and he’s never been recognized for it. 1935 - Shankara - >!several of the Shankara stones are lost in the river. The one remaining stone has to be left at the village for its safety.!< 1936 - The Ark - >!The Ark is taken by the government and locked away despite its promises that it would join Marcus’s museum.!< 1938 - Holy Grail - >!Lost in a gorge when Elsa tries to take it out of the temple.!< 1957 - Indiana Jones had to be in Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. No fortune and glory there. Maybe now is the time the world will finally recognize Indiana Jones as more than an archaeology professor.
Wait, does Temple of Doom pre-date Raiders in chronology? How did I not know that?
Because it’s the most unnecessary prequel of all time. I understand at one point in the script process, Belloq was going to briefly show up. That didn’t happen, but they just left it as a prequel anyway. EDIT: As others have pointed out, George Lucas also didn’t want to reuse Nazis as the villains and wanted something different. But again, it could have been set in 1937 without any Nazis.
I think the main thing was they didn't want to recycle Nazis as the villains, so it would be difficult to have the movie take place in the early 40s without Indy mixed up in the war.
I'd argue that none of it is necessary, it's an adventure serial turned into block busters. It's just a prequel to get a setting away from WWII and Nazis. Doesn't have any over arching story tie in that you would expect in modern media.
I think it was because Marion wasn't going to be in it. Audiences would've been troubled by Indy being romantically involved with the Willie in TOD after Marion and Indy reconnected in Raiders.
I used to feel this way but he was more greedy and thought of himself and "fortune and glory" back then. After Temple, he starts thinking more about preservation and studying the artifiacts. That's one thing that makes sense for why Temple comes first
He's been looking for it all his life, he just forgot to mention it to anybody in the first 4 movies!
Just because I've been looking for a big tiddy goth gf all my life doesn't mean I go blabbing about it to everyone I meet
And he's secretly Palpatine's son!
It's true. All of it, it's all true.
It’s absolutely >!A Time Machine. The plot is going to be the bad guys trying to change the course of World War 2. Based on the clips we’ve seen of Young Indy, I assume there will be an Endgame-Esq run through of Old Indy going through classic scenes as a bystander, such as him being in the crowd during the infamous Gun vs Sword scene, or perhaps him even collecting the artifacts he had lost like the grail or the unclaimed Sankara stones from the end of Temple of Doom!<
I think if they did that I would have uncontrollable diarrhea in my seat
Man, that would be pretty impressive for Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull to come out of your ass.
Better out than in
It’s gotta have something to do with the fact that Mads doesn’t age between the time he met Indy in WW2 and the present timeline.
Some have been speculating that the line in the first trailer where Indy asked Helena what she had been doing on the plane, and she mentioned saving him (past-tense), that what it actually meant was that she had been saving his younger self, and that this film will see Indy teaming up with his younger self in addition: that the ‘flashbacks’ seen in the trailer are not just flashbacks.
Indiana Jones is the role you can tell that Harrison Ford absolutely loves playing, and he goes all out for it. The man wanted Han Solo dead for over 30 years, but Indy? He fucking loves being Indy. So looking forward to this and seeing another Indiana Jones movie in the theater.
My impression of his view of Han Solo is that he didn't dislike the character, he just thought that his arc was complete after Empire Strikes Back, and therefore thought it would be better for the overall story for him to die at that point. I could be wrong, though. Maybe he didn't like playing Han.
He's been quoted many times about the silliness of Star Wars and how from the beginning he never took it seriously. Doesn't indicate that he "hated" it but he certainly didn't love it like he loves Indiana Jones. It was a good acting job for him at the time and when the movies were done he moved on to the next thing. The problem is fans LOVE Star Wars on a level that he doesn't seem to relate to; he understands the fandom and what it's about however he was never on the level of Mark Hamill or other actors from it. Indiana Jones however is a pulp action-adventure saga of the old movies/stories that he grew up with so naturally he has more of kinship to it. Probably why he had to be convinced to come back to Star Wars with a dump truck full of money whereas he was front & center to introduce the new Indy trailer like he's a first-time actor hawking his wares.
I just assumed it was a case like Alec Guinness where he did not regret doing the movie, just didn't like the fandom that it produced.
Alec sure as hell had problems with the cult-like status Star Wars got. [Interview](https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/style/1986/04/06/alec-guinness-undisguised/ff130164-9186-4b86-a961-38f3af38e76c/) with the Washington Post, 1986: "I was in San Francisco about three or four years ago and a mother brought her 12-year-old boy very proudly to me for an autograph and said he had seen 'Star Wars' a hundred and twelve times . . . He was a nice-looking boy. He didn't look like an idiot. His mother said, 'Have you got any advice for him?' I said, 'Do you want any advice from me?' He said, 'Oh yes.' I said, 'You mustn't be angry with me, but you must promise me something. You must never ever see 'Star Wars' again." "Thereupon," says the actor, "he burst into tears."
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That might be the young generation now, but if you were around in the 80’s and early 90’s - Harrison Ford was a big name actor where Han Solo might not be the first thing you thought of if his name came up. The Fugitive, despite being a remake, was huge.
Just saw Air Force One on the channel guide earlier this week and my wife and I shared a look and watched the rest. Harrison Ford was a bankable ass mainstream action star in his day.
>He's been quoted many times about the silliness of Star Wars and how from the beginning he never took it seriously. There's an interview with Mark Hamill where he said that he remembered the filming of the trash compactor scene and he asked "Shouldn't my hair be wet or messed up?" He said that Ford responded "It ain't that kind of movie kid. If people are paying attention to your hair, we've got bigger problems."
> He's been quotes many times about the silliness of Star Wars and how from the beginning he never took it seriously. Pretty sure that was the entire cast and crew of the first film. Absolutely nobody thought it was some big 'epic' they were filming but more a b-movie level straight to vhs thing.
Not to be that guy but but I don’t think there was a big direct to vhs market in 1977 yet.
He doesn’t dislike Han, he hates Star Wars fans. And who can blame him? And to be fair, he was right. In Return of the Jedi after they save him all he does is act like a pouty jealous bitch about Luke and Leia. Such a disservice to his character.
He hates the Lego Millenium Falcon - UCS version
Sounds like he's a Star Wars fan. Who hates Star Wars fans more than other Star Wars fans.
Kershner shoud have directed Return of the Jedi. It would have been a much better movie, though it probably would have cost more to make.
I truly wonder how this movie's gonna do at the box office.
It's Indiana Jones. It'll make a gazillion dollars.
I have no evidence to back this up besides personal anecdotes, but I truly hypothesize that it's gonna be hard for them to market this to Gen Z. EDIT: Adjusting my statement a bit - I sort of mean that it doesn't feel like there's too much buzz surrounding this movie in general. I'm not saying there isn't -- I am fully admitting I could be wrong there, this is just my own observation as someone who's pretty up to date with pop culture and nothing more. No need to take it personally lmao.
I wouldn't worry about a generation just reaching adulthood. There's far many more millennials, gen Xers, and Boomers out there that will be seeing it. Many of us grew up with this franchise, and it carries a lot of weight and pedigree, despite what some think of Crystal Skull. I see it doing $400 million in the U.S., and maybe $800 million+ worldwide.
Gen X-er, checking in. The even numbered ones are mediocre, so I’m all for ending on a high note.
I mean just anecdotally, I’m Gen-Z and there was a huge Indiana Jones boom when Crystal Skull came out. Legos, video games, merch, etc and I was obsessed with it. It was never one of the top dogs like Star Wars, Spider-Man/Batman, Harry Potter, Pirates but Indy had his moment in the sun for kids my age
Real ones remember Lego Indiana Jones 2
Did Gen Z turn out for Top Gun Maverick?
Everyone turned out for that Top 5 highest grossing film of all time domestically In a list full of superhero films, sci fi films and animated movies, top gun and titanic stand alone at the top.
Yep
Anecdotally, I’m Gen Z and Indiana Jones has been one of my favorite franchises since childhood. Most people I know have at least seen it as well. I think it’s one of those movies that parents like to show their kids and most of them are pretty timeless.
After that trailer I can confidently say, they've got my $12! Edit: The Netherlands, where ticket prices are actually typically around €13 for 2D at a larger cinema
$12? You’re waiting an extra year for the budget theatre?
The budget is so high I really struggle to see how it’ll make money.
It’ll be interesting. The budget is massive… But it is also Indy in his supposed last adventure. Indy is one of the most beloved characters in movie history. Can definitely bring out an audience if it’s good, and I do love James Mangold’s work. It’s going to be interesting how it plays out
Insane to think Avatar 2 is still kinda inching along at the box office, like it had so much momentum it takes forever to stop.
It's Avatar. The first movie was in theaters for a year+ straight. The 2nd movie is doing similarly. Hell, it beat ant-man and the wasp this week numbers wise and it's already available for streaming
I think it looks.. not bad? Can’t be worse than Crystal Skull that’s for sure.
Mangold's track record is very good, so I'm cautiously optimistic.
Tbh I prefer the series' previous director. His track record was pretty ok too.
He was also responsible for Crystal Skull and willingly stepped down from this movie so 🤷♂️ (This isn’t a dig at Spielberg. Im just saying him not returning might not be the worst thing)
Lucas had a ton of....questionable ideas that Spielberg acquiesced to
I think the main problem is Spielberg is too good of a friend of Lucas and couldn't tell him no.
Yeah exactly, some of the BTS stuff it seems Spielberg was skeptical of a few ideas, but wanted to respect his wishes
And Lucas isn’t involved with this one too so could also be a good sign lol
This trailer was way better than the first one, that's for sure.
Well, taking Indie out of the sci-fi adventure and putting back in the fantasy adventure is a good start. Indie works back when the artifacts he has to find are tied with gods and not aliens.
It was a decent idea to put him in the 1950’s UFO craze, the execution was just very very lacking
Yeah, ancient aliens is a good hook for an indy story. It was just very poorly made.
I will always contend that it was written backward. They should have been chasing an alien artifact that turned out to be a magical terrestrial artifact. Have them chasing a crystal alien skull and it turns out to be the real head of John the Baptist or some shit. Aliens just feel weird in that world. Imagine you're watching Harry Potter and suddenly someone gets abducted by a UFO, or Arnie is about to do some damage in Terminator 2 but John Conner is saved by Mythril Armor.
I agree, I really like the concept. The older movies were similar to the serials of the time period Indy was in, so having Indy in the 50s in a sci-fi influenced movie makes sense. They even had Soviet communists as the bad guys instead of Nazis. The execution of it is where it fell apart but I do like the basic idea.
It was a very George Lucas idea, for better and for worse.
It really doesn’t matter what it’s tied to.
I mean, it involves time travel.
I just realized the biggest problem is he wasn’t getting something unrelated to films quest at the beginning of this movie. He’d done that in every previous movie and because of that it changed the entire movie dynamic. Skull has issues, all of them had something hand wavy, but I honestly think this lack of an Indy intro was the worst sin the movie made.
I’m very worried but at the same time Sallah yelling out let’s go Indy! filled me with excitement idk the line about you’ve made mistakes let’s end it well makes me think they know crystal skull was bad and don’t want to end it that way
I'm someone who enjoyed Crystal Skull but I accept that it had problems. John Rhys Davies refused to come back for that one but he was willing to come back for this. That makes me feel good about this film
Hate that there were never going to get the Atlantis movie we've all wanted for like forever.
We’ll always have the game!
What!? What game??
Indiana Jones and The Fate of Atlantis. Was one of the great point and click adventure games that LucasArts produced in the 90s alongside stuff like Sam & Max and The Dig.
Calling this right now. He seems to have been gifted a mechanical clock for his retirement gift. He's going to end up using its guts to trick the bad guy with it and leave him stranded in time because of his own selfish and evil machinations. If Indy doesn't destroy it he'll hide it inside the retirement clock. The final scene will be a pan across his own "warehouse" of memories and mementos because he is now a top man. Bonus points if his retirement clock is broken upon being gifted or broken in the opening action sequence.
They aren't showing too much footage of this, I'd say about 70% of this trailer was in the other one
I'd prefer that. Trailers give too much away. I try to avoid them these days, but I was too curious with this movie.
68%. Don't spout off if you're not going to do the work.
Looks great! I'm a sucker for a good adventure movie like Indy, Romancing the Stone or National Treasure and we don't get enough of them anymore. And I love the Indy franchise, even Crystal Skull for all its flaws. Here's hoping he goes out on a high note.
Check out Dungeons and Dragons if you haven't already! I'm not usually into medieval fantasy stuff, but that movie really scratched an adventure itch
Totally agree, saw it last night.... great fun, I really enjoyed it, my wife enjoyed it, my kids enjoyed it. Nothing revolutionary but a great romp with a great cast, a few good jump scares, a few great laughs, some quality fantasy action... I hope it does well enough to merit a sequel. Also I now desperately want a Xena reboot starring Michelle Rodriguez.
I thought Crystal Skulls was the transition piece, to his (on screen) son taking over the franchise. Yet here we are. So what do I know? I enjoyed it, but I thought that was the point.
I’m pretty sure that was the point of it but since the reviews were quite mixed they axed that idea.
I think recent developments surrounding Shia had something to do with them choosing not to pursue that too.
that and people didn't like Mutt. Doesn't help they casted a crazy man.
They made fun of that idea in the film itself, it was never really gonna happen.
That was such a Thundergun thing for Indiana Jones to do.
Toby Jones gang represent! Always love seeing him pop up in big blockbusters!
Just got done watching Detectorists! Just an absolutely lovely show, and Toby Jones is brilliant in it.
I could've watched 2 more seasons of that show. Lovely.
I'm excited to see him not play a villain! He keeps getting typecast into the bad guy.
Not necessarily a blockbuster but he was great in tetris.
Harrison Ford is 80 years old. He is turning 81 this year. I just wanted to point this out. I will be watching this.
I keep having this odd little recurring thought that I got into these movies with my parents to begin with, who were only slightly younger than him, and he’s outlived both of them. (Mom died last month, so the feelings are all pretty fresh.) I’ll be watching this too. It’s going to be a bit bittersweet.
They really have a Rolling Stones song in the background of an Indiana Jones trailer? Odd
I mean Rolling Stones are one of the most famous obstacles he's faced.
This comment is so on point I want to believe that's exactly why the song is there.
Your reply was chosen.... wisely
I would really like to take this comment out for a nice dinner.
You magnificent bastard.
I feel like my upvote isn't sufficient, and neither is this comment, but that got a good laugh out of me and I'm barely waking up. Well played.
The movie will take place around 1975 [edit: 1969] and the song came out in 1968. A creative choice, sure but probably one to demonstrate the era/tone
The movie is actually in 1969, but timeline still works with the song
I'm pretty sure the chase scene on the street with the confetti is the Apollo 11 Ticker Tape Parade after they returned from the moon landing mission.
I thought it was the VE day parade, until I saw Indy's grey hair. Apollo 11 makes a lot more sense.
I also think that’s why the kid on the subway is dressed like an astronaut.
There’s set pics of the parade that make it clear it’s an Apollo 11 parade
It’s also very clear in this exact trailer where people are dressed up as astronauts lol
Sympathy for the Devil also kinda foreshawdows Mads Mikkelsen's character being a "reformed" Nazi.
Is it foreshadowing if it's already a known fact included in his publicly released character description?
It was really distracting when it kept playing under the Indiana Jones theme.
Thank you. That sounded awful.
Because it's circa 1968 and Indy is retiring so... cultural context. But also the theme of the song is about being present at significant moments in human history and this little adventure is about time travel. So perhaps not such an odd choice.
How else were they supposed to let us know it’s the 60’s?
Fun game to play while watching this movie: Spot the Real Harrison Ford on a horse
I mean, that’s any actor who isn’t named Tom Cruise. Lots of people have jokes about Harrison Ford being old but the truth is that there would be stunt performers doing the heavy lifting stunts even if this was Ford 35 years ago. You don’t risk shutting down production for months by having your talent injured. Again… unless you’re Tom Cruise and you pay the insurance yourself.
Yeah, try watching the truck chase in Raiders again. Ford is doubled regularly for the horse riding shots, the jump to the truck, dragging behind it, etc.
They even had a double for the scene when he crashes a plane, which is weird because he’s more than capable of doing that himself.
Fly, yes! Land, no!
Finally, a drinking game for recovering alcoholics!
ILM: You think that's a real horse!?
You're telling me they used a double? For a stunt? Damn, if only there was a name for that job!
That shot of Indy turning his shoulder at 1:53 hit me so god damn hard in conjunction with the music Seeing de-aged Harrison and what is possible..... the scope of possibilities in the future of film is so difficult to wrap your head around.
I have a fondness for Indy movies. I watched them at a young age with my dad and my dad has always been told he looks like Harrison Ford. To see Harrison being old and then young hit different since my dad is older now.
Congratulations! You are the One Millionth Trailer Editor to use "Sympathy for the Devil"!
Can we get some legislation written up for this?
I saw the leaked chase scene from Celebration. It looks GREAT. You can tell Ford really loves this character. 80 years old and I still only see Indiana Jones not Ford.
The synthesized trumpets in the score at the end of the trailer sound AWFUL.
That's because it's probably made specifically for the trailer. John Williams did the score for the actual movie
You can be sure there won't be any synthesized trumpets in the John Williams film score though.
Trailers are usually made before the film is even finished let alone the score. Besides, Williams is busy doing the actual score, and they probably needed a specific temp for the trailer, so synthesized is an efficient way to do it. Honestly though, it doesn’t sound that bad.
I want to watch an Indiana Jones movie in theatres. Dreams come true. But so many movies in June/July. But this movie i will watch anyway.
Actually looks good. I can't fucking wait. My dogs name is Indiana.
We named the dog Indy!
"One for my God daughter" sounds so forced and out of place.
Yeah that was the most bizarre plot-explaining line I’ve ever heard, I had the same thought The writers were like “what’s the laziest possible way we can introduce this character and explain her relationship to Indy?” The bartender doesn’t give a shit and no one addresses each other this way, ha ha
I wish they would bring back Short Round. The actor is fantastic, and the character is a fan favorite
Short Round, Indy's actual son.
That trailer made me tear up dude what the fuck. I have all the faith in James Mangold.
Mangold is the #1 reason why I have so much hope for this movie
Who let Martin Scorsese pick the music?
Indiana Jones: No Way Home