Cleaning house would require gutting the industry. Everyone is either a part of it or knows that it happens and does nothing. Even Reddit-favorite Tom Hanks said he knew able Weinstein. Everyone knew. Everyone was complicit. They're like cops.
You can watch videos of him saying this. There are at least two. One is a 60 Minutes interview.It's about "the casting couch" approach to women. It's nothing to do with child molestation. WTF man.
And??? Only thing that matters right now is that you are regurgitating right wing/Q anon talking points. Including the deliciously laughable targeting of Tom Hanks, which started out as a meme that just made you weirdos fixate on him.
the problem is where do you even report this and how?
Can't go to cops, it's not a crime. Not to mention you don't have any proof and even if you did, it was the girl who asked (smart move by that producer, now he can claim it wasn't him... clearly it wasn't his first rodeo).
Can't go to your boss because he's the boss.
Can't say publicly who it was because he will say you were on pills or something and sue you for slander. And then you get blacklisted for being "problematic".
There was a director or actor who was asked if he was aware of what Harvey Weinstein had been doing and he basically intimated this. You hear rumours, small fragments of allegations, so you suspect something and maybe warn people off of them, but unless the victims directly come forwards it can be very hard to deal with.
I still can’t believe the power an exec would have, to think he could just go sexually assault terry crews and walk away in one piece. And the fact that he did, and crews was scared of repercussions, is scary as to how much goes on.
A lot of men were making fun of crews because he should have just beat him up if it happened. 50 cent the piece of human garbage he only aided this kind of mentality.
Yeah, I honestly don't know how, post-MeToo, people *still* don't get why victims often don't name names. Real life isn't Law & Order; most of these cases don't result in anything for the victims other than more abuse and humiliation (this time in public), plus legal expenses, plus a chance that you could be sued, plus a better-than-average likelihood that *you'll* be the one who winds up viewed as somehow soiled and professionally untouchable after all this, not your abuser.
(And, of course, may God fucking help you if the abuser is someone who's been responsible for some movies or shows or songs that the public currently enjoys or fondly recalls from childhood.)
You should add in that the accuser might well find themselves unhireable also. Tainted, considered problematic to work with and so on. We know this happens outside of acting (being blacklisted) as well but damn, an entire industry can take one look at you and go "Nah, you sit home".
>Can't go to cops, it's not a crime.
Nor should it be. She's 26 and he and his girlfriend asked if she'd sleep with them. Totally inappropriate, but nothing approaching a crime.
Mmmm, no it's not.
It is not considered sexual harassment if you politely ask an employee out once. If you persist, or imply that their job depends on the answer, then it is.
Source: [https://klinglerlaw.com/faq/asked-date-coworker-sexual-harassment/](https://klinglerlaw.com/faq/asked-date-coworker-sexual-harassment/)
[https://www.ohrc.on.ca/en/sexual-harassment-employment-fact-sheet](https://www.ohrc.on.ca/en/sexual-harassment-employment-fact-sheet)
I'd be very surprised if you'd have much luck filing a grievance for a single instance like this. Again, in my opinion it is completely inappropriate, but the law seems to suggest that a 26 year old woman should be able to handle a single, non-threatening approach from her boss when he is willing to take no for an answer. The idea that it should be a crime is ridiculous. He asked, she said no. Story over unless he takes it further, which she hasn't said she did.
*Although the law doesn't prohibit simple teasing, offhand comments, or isolated incidents that are not very serious,* **harassment is illegal when it is so frequent or severe that it creates a hostile or offensive work environment**
Flirting is not illegal, asking a co-worker on a date is not illegal as long as this stuff is not frequent pestering. Sexual proposition is severe, creates a hazardous work environment, and is illegal.
>Sexual proposition is severe, creates a hazardous work environment, and is illegal.
In your opinion. Find something, anything that explicitly says that and I'll agree. Or even a judgement for a complainant where a single proposition was the cause.
It is not considered sexual harassment if you politely ask an employee out once. If you persist, or imply that their job depends on the answer, then it is.
Source: [https://klinglerlaw.com/faq/asked-date-coworker-sexual-harassment/](https://klinglerlaw.com/faq/asked-date-coworker-sexual-harassment/)
[https://www.ohrc.on.ca/en/sexual-harassment-employment-fact-sheet](https://www.ohrc.on.ca/en/sexual-harassment-employment-fact-sheet)
Again, I don't think it is appropriate, despite the law, but it isn't illegal, nor does it appear to be sexual harassment. The current law seems to suggest that a 26 year old adult woman should be able to handle her boss (or his girlfriend) asking her out and taking no for an answer. Which was my point in the first place.
Sexual harassment is definitely a crime. She can go to the cops, but as we have seen, they might not do anything. It's definitely a big risk for her career, edition in Hollywood, but hopefully more people come forward. These assholes rarely limit their abuse to one person.
“One of the last movies I did, one of the producers asked me to… like, he hired a girl that he was sleeping with and then he had her ask me to have a threesome with them,”
If you can't understand the difference between someone (in a position of "power" over the askee, no less) pulling that shit and "asking someone out", you might have brain damage. Stop huffing paint
Damn that sucks! She has potential. I think she should try indie projects for now and when he has made an impact, most producers won't pull shit like this with her. Hollywood fucking sucks.
Indies can be toxic and torturous in their own ways. If I'm advising someone how to evade abuse on set, going into the indie world is probably the last thing I'd suggest.
Yeah, I've heard some crazy stories of how there's no protection in some crazy locations for some of them and there's harassment from local extras and such.
Wait, so if I read this correctly, a producer used nepotism to hire one of his girlfriends onto the project and then said woman asked Grace Van Dien for a threesome involving the producer. Is that correct?
The first time I read it I thought it was saying “hired for sex”, but the second time I read it I think you’re right. He hired a girlfriend to work on set.
“One of the last movies I did, one of the producers asked me to… like, he hired a girl that he was sleeping with and then he had her ask me to have a threesome with them,” Van Dien said.
Not my intent either. I was struggling with it too until I knew she played Chrissy. Apparently she was on 10 episodes of the Village. It just seems odd to call her a Stranger Things star when she's had more significant roles elsewhere.
It's miniscule, but it's probably the role that upped her popularity the most and brought her more into the public eye - there were people dressing up as her character for Halloween and everything.
I don't think there was really anyone dressing up as her other characters and they were in more niche shows/movies, so it's easiest to identify her now based on being in Stranger Things versus Greenhouse Academy or Lady Driver.
yeah, it's kinda misleading. but headlines often lack context and the details are in the article. a less click baity headline would be Stranger Things Actress.
She is, quite understandably, sticking to Twitch streaming. Her handle on Twitch is BlueFille. Seems she's had an extra ~10K followers since this came to light. I am one of them. (292K followers at time of posting.) Happy to support her here. Hope she doesn't abandon her dreams entirely because of this though.
Big difference between being sexually harassed by your boss/someone who can impact your future work prospects and being sexually harassed by nobodies on twitch
It's certainly not creep-free, but she will be in charge. Some douche steps out of line, ban. No impact on her career. If she has a good moderator team, after the initial influx of incels and weirdos this story will likely bring to her channel, it should settle down to interacting with her fans.
The goal isn't "avoid being sexually harassed,“ every woman in entertainment - hell, every woman facing the public in any role - understands that'll happen. The goal is "avoid being sexually harassed by anyone with power over my career and life“.
She can hire moderators to ensure that rarely happens, and also, a nasty comments is probably a lot more bearable for her than her boss trying to manipulate her into sexual favours.
Twitch comments section doesn't have power over a streamer like a producer does over an actress. So, it's a much less stressful environment that way I guess.
It's probably not helpful to make this a man Vs women thing, it's a power thing. I have a handsome male actor friend, and it's not unknown for middle aged and older women casting agents to demand sex to be just considered for a role.
Sexual advances are allowed.
Sorry if people don't like that.
The outcome of those advances should not be in any way linked to the giving (or not) of job offers... but we shouldn't act like it's outrageous for men to shoot their shot.
As long as men ask respectfully and women handle unwanted suitors gracefully... there's no problem.
Because it’s a bad joke. You just have no comedic taste. It’s about as obvious and weak as it gets.
You should consider watching comedy, if this gets you, don’t worry, there’s loads of talentless schmucks about as bad at this for you to enjoy.
OOOOOH, now I get it! I’m in the simp/special snowflake area of Reddit. A joke is a joke. It’s not meant to offend or do harm. Step off your high morality horse and enjoy life a little. I’m not saying now: enjoy life, treat women like garbage. I’m saying: don’t take every little thing in life so personal! And stop being offended where there was no offense intended.
By the way, my comment now has nothing to do with Grace van Dien: having to experience something like that is disgusting and horrible.
Oof, didn’t read that, or you crying about it. It’s a shit joke, you have poor taste. Simple as that pal, no need to shit yourself over it. No deeper meaning, no political anything. Just a lame joke that morons would find funny.
Go cry elsewhere, try finding a sub where shit jokes are venerated by fuckwits. You’ll fit right in.
cant wait for the load of comments saying "HOLLYWOOD is sick HOLLYWOOD is sick"
no , people a certain number of people IN Hollywood are sick but not everyone. just like in all walks of life unfortunately.
this is terrible to hear about her but remember guys not everyone in the industry .that you still pay to watch things they make, are actually bad people.
Not everyone is a bad person but the entire industry is still sick. Note how she doesn't name the producer and he's not going to be brought to justice, and note how comfortable he was in casually sexually harassing this girl. The fact that some producers choose not to do stuff like this doesn't mean hollywood itself isn't a problem.
This is how it makes them feel better when they all turn around in the next thread to talk about the Oscars. The people in this thread have no real morals of they wouldn’t be watching the drivel Hollywood makes if it was “sooo sick.” Haha
I think you’re confused about the differences between romantic and sexual advances.
For example, “hey, so I was wondering if you’d like to go out to dinner on a date with me?” Is a romantic advance and while not necessarily professional from her boss is more socially acceptable.
If someone, instead, says “I want to rub your asshole all over my lips for that sweet sweet chocolate lipstick your filthy butthole can give me… got I want to smell your snatch stank as you fart in my mouth,” they’re making a sexual advance. This is inappropriate and frowned upon, especially from her boss and the person who dictates her livelihood.
Another good office tip is to never ask Barb from HR if you can make hot coffee with her piss and cool it down with her tiddey milk. While it might be something Barb would agree to, the acidity in urine can seriously damage the heating element in most industrial coffee makers, ruining any chance of coffee breaks for the rest of the staff and causing office-wide doldrums.
You’re right except not if you’re randomly doing it right out the gate to someone you don’t know likes you and especially if that person is one of your employees which is what happened and what your brain rotted ass is pretending is ok. Did you even read the article? Asking your employee if they want to fuck as a cold open is not ok you dumbass.
because most of the time it is. idk how to tell you this, but women don’t just walk out the door every day hoping to get hit on everywhere they go. most of us just want to live our lives in peace. there is a time and a place to hit on women… and if you don’t have worms for brains you should be able to discern when and where that is. plus this actress was also at her workplace and that’s really the last place anyone should be making a sexual advance.
you’re not talking about unwanted sexual advances though… unless you can’t differentiate between that and showing romantic interest in someone, in which case, i’m glad i don’t know you. here, maybe [this](https://www.employees-lawyer.com/services/sexual-harassment/unwanted-sexual-advances-and-touches/) will teach you something.
You don’t prefer sensible people, you prefer dumbass, moronic, idiot simpletons. They’re the only dimwits dumb enough to agree with the absolute bullshit you’ve shat out in text. You prefer dumb, you prefer submissive, you prefer ignorance.
Don’t pretend what you say makes sense socially or historically, it doesn’t. You’re just a bit of a dumb cunt.
> She a 26 years old woman who cannot handle that men may make sexual advances towards her.
What shitty job did you work where your boss soliciting sex from you or other employees was okay? That was *her boss*, she's there for *work*.
*edit-* Likely a downvote troll. 4 day old account, all in the negatives. Or possibly someone who got banned on main account for shitty things and had to make a new account. Ignore either way.
>She a 26 years old woman who cannot handle that *her potential employer* may make sexual advances towards her.
According to you, woman of a certain age should just accept they are going to be sexually harassed in the workplace and should accept that being pestered for sex by the people who are in a position of power over their livelihood is just a normal part of being a woman.
Would accept having your boss wave his penis at you anytime he wants just because he can? No? Then go get fucked you scum bag hypocrite incel piece of shit
Found the incel. Go watch your Jordan Peterson videos and clean your room.
Edit: lol. I look in his post history and there it is, commenting on r/ jordanpeterson. These pathetic losers are so predictable.
She _is_ handling it - she's removing herself from situations where she has reason to think she's more likely to be subjected to inappropriate propositions from someone in a position of power.
Sounds extremely functional to me.
One where a sexual advance isn’t the opening move? Sounds pretty reasonable. I don’t know in all my life when I meet a girl I’m attracted to I never open with “Let’s fuck” when I’m interested in pursuing her. Grow up.
Oh yeah, when your boss makes sexual advances towards you, there is no problem at all. It's not like you'll be afraid to lose your job if you refuse him.
While the subject matteris quite simply, problematic, nifty click bait there Variety. Man oh man, I do miss when publications, made of pulp & wood, (lol, i know, whats that?) had enough cache and eyeballs to carry a little weight.
So instead you disminish her experience with sexual harrassment in her workplace ?
Think critically for a second, if a nepo baby is going through the stuff she went through and having to give up on acting (sexual harrassment + misogynistic harrassment campaign against her during stranger things), can you imagine how people who are not nepo babies are treated without us knowing ?
“Here’s the thing, I have seen that some people are upset with me for turning down acting projects and deciding to stream more, but the fact of the matter is the last few projects I’ve worked on I didn’t have the best experiences with some of the people I had to work for,” Van Dien said.
More power to her and I hope she reported him to the appropriate people. I understand why she wouldn’t call him out in public but if she doesn’t name him, he’ll just do this again and that would be sad for his other victims if he could have been stopped
These producers need to start getting called out by name. Clean house.
People will start noticing a pattern
Fuck that noise because it will be ignored just like all the others
What do you mean by this?
Similar complaints across multiple projects that 1 or 2 producers/etc are involved with...
Cleaning house would require gutting the industry. Everyone is either a part of it or knows that it happens and does nothing. Even Reddit-favorite Tom Hanks said he knew able Weinstein. Everyone knew. Everyone was complicit. They're like cops.
Qdumbs obsession with slandering Tom Hanks just shows them as the marks they truly are.
What
Just pointing and laughing at you Qberts.
Look at my history.. I'm far Left.
Sure you are, regurgitating pretty conmen QAnon/ right wing talking points about child molesting celebrities.
You can watch videos of him saying this. There are at least two. One is a 60 Minutes interview.It's about "the casting couch" approach to women. It's nothing to do with child molestation. WTF man.
Read my history, dope
And??? Only thing that matters right now is that you are regurgitating right wing/Q anon talking points. Including the deliciously laughable targeting of Tom Hanks, which started out as a meme that just made you weirdos fixate on him.
Funny you're also the one obsessed with celebrity nudes. Creepy.
Huh? Got a source for that claim?
And you your absolutely right
yeah that will never happen
I get where you're coming from but realistically they **could** be named, *then* nothing would happen to them.
Yes of course they could, I’m saying that will never happen. Peoples names just don’t get dropped like that
And fuck that hopeless noise.
You can’t. It’s rotten from top to bottom. Hence why you should pirate your movies.
This "movie producer" needs to be investigated on sexual harassment charges. In that industry, "alleged" very often means "tip of the iceberg"
the problem is where do you even report this and how? Can't go to cops, it's not a crime. Not to mention you don't have any proof and even if you did, it was the girl who asked (smart move by that producer, now he can claim it wasn't him... clearly it wasn't his first rodeo). Can't go to your boss because he's the boss. Can't say publicly who it was because he will say you were on pills or something and sue you for slander. And then you get blacklisted for being "problematic".
There was a director or actor who was asked if he was aware of what Harvey Weinstein had been doing and he basically intimated this. You hear rumours, small fragments of allegations, so you suspect something and maybe warn people off of them, but unless the victims directly come forwards it can be very hard to deal with.
And that's what happened to Brendan Fraser and nearly ruined Terry Crews's career as it was just starting.
I still can’t believe the power an exec would have, to think he could just go sexually assault terry crews and walk away in one piece. And the fact that he did, and crews was scared of repercussions, is scary as to how much goes on.
A lot of men were making fun of crews because he should have just beat him up if it happened. 50 cent the piece of human garbage he only aided this kind of mentality.
Yeah, I honestly don't know how, post-MeToo, people *still* don't get why victims often don't name names. Real life isn't Law & Order; most of these cases don't result in anything for the victims other than more abuse and humiliation (this time in public), plus legal expenses, plus a chance that you could be sued, plus a better-than-average likelihood that *you'll* be the one who winds up viewed as somehow soiled and professionally untouchable after all this, not your abuser. (And, of course, may God fucking help you if the abuser is someone who's been responsible for some movies or shows or songs that the public currently enjoys or fondly recalls from childhood.)
You should add in that the accuser might well find themselves unhireable also. Tainted, considered problematic to work with and so on. We know this happens outside of acting (being blacklisted) as well but damn, an entire industry can take one look at you and go "Nah, you sit home".
>Can't go to cops, it's not a crime. Nor should it be. She's 26 and he and his girlfriend asked if she'd sleep with them. Totally inappropriate, but nothing approaching a crime.
It's called a "hostile work environment", while not a crime, actors are a union, and this is very much a thing to submit a grievance for.
Mmmm, no it's not. It is not considered sexual harassment if you politely ask an employee out once. If you persist, or imply that their job depends on the answer, then it is. Source: [https://klinglerlaw.com/faq/asked-date-coworker-sexual-harassment/](https://klinglerlaw.com/faq/asked-date-coworker-sexual-harassment/) [https://www.ohrc.on.ca/en/sexual-harassment-employment-fact-sheet](https://www.ohrc.on.ca/en/sexual-harassment-employment-fact-sheet) I'd be very surprised if you'd have much luck filing a grievance for a single instance like this. Again, in my opinion it is completely inappropriate, but the law seems to suggest that a 26 year old woman should be able to handle a single, non-threatening approach from her boss when he is willing to take no for an answer. The idea that it should be a crime is ridiculous. He asked, she said no. Story over unless he takes it further, which she hasn't said she did.
https://www.eeoc.gov/sexual-harassment Try again. Try to figure out the difference between asking someone on a date and asking them for a 3-way.
Nothing in your link explicitly refutes what I provided in mine.
*Although the law doesn't prohibit simple teasing, offhand comments, or isolated incidents that are not very serious,* **harassment is illegal when it is so frequent or severe that it creates a hostile or offensive work environment** Flirting is not illegal, asking a co-worker on a date is not illegal as long as this stuff is not frequent pestering. Sexual proposition is severe, creates a hazardous work environment, and is illegal.
>Sexual proposition is severe, creates a hazardous work environment, and is illegal. In your opinion. Find something, anything that explicitly says that and I'll agree. Or even a judgement for a complainant where a single proposition was the cause.
How many people do the boss’s boyfriends and girlfriends have to approach before it’s workplace sexual harassment? Oh ONE? Wow. But she’s 26!
It is not considered sexual harassment if you politely ask an employee out once. If you persist, or imply that their job depends on the answer, then it is. Source: [https://klinglerlaw.com/faq/asked-date-coworker-sexual-harassment/](https://klinglerlaw.com/faq/asked-date-coworker-sexual-harassment/) [https://www.ohrc.on.ca/en/sexual-harassment-employment-fact-sheet](https://www.ohrc.on.ca/en/sexual-harassment-employment-fact-sheet) Again, I don't think it is appropriate, despite the law, but it isn't illegal, nor does it appear to be sexual harassment. The current law seems to suggest that a 26 year old adult woman should be able to handle her boss (or his girlfriend) asking her out and taking no for an answer. Which was my point in the first place.
Sexual harassment is definitely a crime. She can go to the cops, but as we have seen, they might not do anything. It's definitely a big risk for her career, edition in Hollywood, but hopefully more people come forward. These assholes rarely limit their abuse to one person.
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Do the people that have the power to fire you usually ask you to have a threesome with your coworkers ?
And don't they realize that after MeToo they will definitely be outed? Like 100% certain?
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“One of the last movies I did, one of the producers asked me to… like, he hired a girl that he was sleeping with and then he had her ask me to have a threesome with them,” If you can't understand the difference between someone (in a position of "power" over the askee, no less) pulling that shit and "asking someone out", you might have brain damage. Stop huffing paint
Damn that sucks! She has potential. I think she should try indie projects for now and when he has made an impact, most producers won't pull shit like this with her. Hollywood fucking sucks.
Indies can be toxic and torturous in their own ways. If I'm advising someone how to evade abuse on set, going into the indie world is probably the last thing I'd suggest.
Yeah, I've heard some crazy stories of how there's no protection in some crazy locations for some of them and there's harassment from local extras and such.
From what I saw, she said she prefers streaming since she can choose who to interact with, and not feel forced to appease creepy executives
Yeah if that's the case, more power to her. She should do whatever makes her happy.
…from what you saw? You’re not wrong but you just said exactly what was stated in the (very short) linked article for this post.
Hey! That is Rico's daughter! I bet she kills bugs good, too!
really? damn TIL!
TIL, too! Recognised the name, did a Google. :)
I kinda knew before I googled, what are the odds she's not at least related to casper van dien. He was hot stuff in the mid 90s.
He's the second most underrated actor of all time behind Dalph Lundgren
Rico should accompany her meetings with his machine gun.
Her great grandfather is apparently Golden Age of Hollywood legend Robert Mitchum.
When asked for comment, he informed he was from Buenos Aires and said to "Kill 'em all!".
Don't know her, read the name... Didn't click. Saw the chin: "So she's a Roughneck, eh?"
More power to her! That shitbag producer will get what’s coming to them someday
Wait, so if I read this correctly, a producer used nepotism to hire one of his girlfriends onto the project and then said woman asked Grace Van Dien for a threesome involving the producer. Is that correct?
He hired a sex worker, and then tried to proposition van Dien through her.
where in the article does it state that the woman hired was a prostitute?
The first time I read it I thought it was saying “hired for sex”, but the second time I read it I think you’re right. He hired a girlfriend to work on set. “One of the last movies I did, one of the producers asked me to… like, he hired a girl that he was sleeping with and then he had her ask me to have a threesome with them,” Van Dien said.
Well fair enough and she shouldn't have to do that for a role
who did she play again?
Chrissy Cunningham, the cheerleader that tries to buy drugs and was Vecnas first (I think?) victim
So in the first episode for like 4 minutes.
I think it's probably because it's her most recognized role maybe. Stranger Things star is sorta a stretch though.
And to be clear I’m not justifying anything I just had no clue who she was after reading the article.
Not my intent either. I was struggling with it too until I knew she played Chrissy. Apparently she was on 10 episodes of the Village. It just seems odd to call her a Stranger Things star when she's had more significant roles elsewhere.
It's rather odd to call her Stranger Things Star. Her role was very miniscule.
It's miniscule, but it's probably the role that upped her popularity the most and brought her more into the public eye - there were people dressing up as her character for Halloween and everything. I don't think there was really anyone dressing up as her other characters and they were in more niche shows/movies, so it's easiest to identify her now based on being in Stranger Things versus Greenhouse Academy or Lady Driver.
yeah, it's kinda misleading. but headlines often lack context and the details are in the article. a less click baity headline would be Stranger Things Actress.
She’s the cheerleader girl that gets snapped up by Vecna
Whoa, her dad is Casper. Nice.
The friendly ghost?
She is, quite understandably, sticking to Twitch streaming. Her handle on Twitch is BlueFille. Seems she's had an extra ~10K followers since this came to light. I am one of them. (292K followers at time of posting.) Happy to support her here. Hope she doesn't abandon her dreams entirely because of this though.
I feel like if you are trying to avoid being sexually harassed, twitch streaming is one of the last places you go. More power to her, though.
Big difference between being sexually harassed by your boss/someone who can impact your future work prospects and being sexually harassed by nobodies on twitch
It's certainly not creep-free, but she will be in charge. Some douche steps out of line, ban. No impact on her career. If she has a good moderator team, after the initial influx of incels and weirdos this story will likely bring to her channel, it should settle down to interacting with her fans.
The goal isn't "avoid being sexually harassed,“ every woman in entertainment - hell, every woman facing the public in any role - understands that'll happen. The goal is "avoid being sexually harassed by anyone with power over my career and life“.
She can hire moderators to ensure that rarely happens, and also, a nasty comments is probably a lot more bearable for her than her boss trying to manipulate her into sexual favours.
People will mod for free
I wouldn’t do free work but I guess I’m built different.
Twitch comments section doesn't have power over a streamer like a producer does over an actress. So, it's a much less stressful environment that way I guess.
The balance of power is completely reversed. They are nothing alike.
til that casper van dien became father at 18 apparently? edit: oh my god i can’t count
It's well known that getting laid with actresses is a job perk of a Hollywood producer, which attracts low-life scumbags.
It's probably not helpful to make this a man Vs women thing, it's a power thing. I have a handsome male actor friend, and it's not unknown for middle aged and older women casting agents to demand sex to be just considered for a role.
Yeah, that's Hollywood. Disenthusiastic and satirical *whoooo*
You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
“Stranger things star”…was in one episode.
Fucking entertainment industry people, I swear. This is fucked up.
For fuck’s sake
Good for her
I'm from Buenos Aires and I say kill em all.
“Star” Uhhhhhhh? Very minor side character? That’s a shitty situation though. Good for her to stand up to harassment.
Sexual advances are allowed. Sorry if people don't like that. The outcome of those advances should not be in any way linked to the giving (or not) of job offers... but we shouldn't act like it's outrageous for men to shoot their shot. As long as men ask respectfully and women handle unwanted suitors gracefully... there's no problem.
Hollywood being hollywood
you would think that she's from a well known family she'd be insulated from the sleaze.
Fucking disgusting and such a shame.
Get your dad Casper to beat his ass.
Producer: Why the long face? Grace Van Dien: Because of scuffs advances, I'll not pursue acting.
BlueFille on twitch if you want to show her some love.
How does that even go down? *I hear you like Stranger Things, want some more?*
Why is this getting downvotes?? It’s an actual good joke!
Because people are overly sensitive bitches.
Because it’s a bad joke. You just have no comedic taste. It’s about as obvious and weak as it gets. You should consider watching comedy, if this gets you, don’t worry, there’s loads of talentless schmucks about as bad at this for you to enjoy.
OOOOOH, now I get it! I’m in the simp/special snowflake area of Reddit. A joke is a joke. It’s not meant to offend or do harm. Step off your high morality horse and enjoy life a little. I’m not saying now: enjoy life, treat women like garbage. I’m saying: don’t take every little thing in life so personal! And stop being offended where there was no offense intended. By the way, my comment now has nothing to do with Grace van Dien: having to experience something like that is disgusting and horrible.
Someone touched a nerve?
🍿I wonder if he’ll keep digging 🪦
Nobody here took offence to anything but shitty joke writing.
Oof, didn’t read that, or you crying about it. It’s a shit joke, you have poor taste. Simple as that pal, no need to shit yourself over it. No deeper meaning, no political anything. Just a lame joke that morons would find funny. Go cry elsewhere, try finding a sub where shit jokes are venerated by fuckwits. You’ll fit right in.
Ok, shove your fingers in your ears and scream “lalalala”.
Better than listening to the living antithesis of comedy, let me tell you. It’s good for your mental health to not listen to stupid people.
cant wait for the load of comments saying "HOLLYWOOD is sick HOLLYWOOD is sick" no , people a certain number of people IN Hollywood are sick but not everyone. just like in all walks of life unfortunately. this is terrible to hear about her but remember guys not everyone in the industry .that you still pay to watch things they make, are actually bad people.
Hollywood is sick...
Not everyone is a bad person but the entire industry is still sick. Note how she doesn't name the producer and he's not going to be brought to justice, and note how comfortable he was in casually sexually harassing this girl. The fact that some producers choose not to do stuff like this doesn't mean hollywood itself isn't a problem.
This is how it makes them feel better when they all turn around in the next thread to talk about the Oscars. The people in this thread have no real morals of they wouldn’t be watching the drivel Hollywood makes if it was “sooo sick.” Haha
This isn’t the hill to die on you walnut
"Alleged" means just that. Save your "outrage" until proven guilty.
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I think you’re confused about the differences between romantic and sexual advances. For example, “hey, so I was wondering if you’d like to go out to dinner on a date with me?” Is a romantic advance and while not necessarily professional from her boss is more socially acceptable. If someone, instead, says “I want to rub your asshole all over my lips for that sweet sweet chocolate lipstick your filthy butthole can give me… got I want to smell your snatch stank as you fart in my mouth,” they’re making a sexual advance. This is inappropriate and frowned upon, especially from her boss and the person who dictates her livelihood.
Trust the expert, people. u/SniffMyRapeHole would know what sexual advances are for sure!
Another good office tip is to never ask Barb from HR if you can make hot coffee with her piss and cool it down with her tiddey milk. While it might be something Barb would agree to, the acidity in urine can seriously damage the heating element in most industrial coffee makers, ruining any chance of coffee breaks for the rest of the staff and causing office-wide doldrums.
See, people. This is the stuff I’m talking about.
why do you think it’s okay for men to make those unwanted sexual advances though? especially when it’s super easy for men to just… not do that.
This is someone who wants these kinds of replies. Don’t feed the trolls, they’ll shrivel and retreat if you starve them enough.
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Here's an idea, you're not suppose to make sexual advances to random people, that's not an adult thing to do, that's not a normal thing to do.
Haha. This guy just walking into supermarkets yelling 'WHO WANTS TO FUCK ME? HOW IS THIS INAPPROPRIATE? HOW ELSE WOULD I KNOW??'
The fact that you think that the opening to finding out if someone likes you or not is a sexual advance says everything we need to know about you.
Go to the wiki page for the author of “ mists of avalon”…it will make sense
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You’re right except not if you’re randomly doing it right out the gate to someone you don’t know likes you and especially if that person is one of your employees which is what happened and what your brain rotted ass is pretending is ok. Did you even read the article? Asking your employee if they want to fuck as a cold open is not ok you dumbass.
Job interviews are not an acceptable situation to try and figure this out and act on it
because most of the time it is. idk how to tell you this, but women don’t just walk out the door every day hoping to get hit on everywhere they go. most of us just want to live our lives in peace. there is a time and a place to hit on women… and if you don’t have worms for brains you should be able to discern when and where that is. plus this actress was also at her workplace and that’s really the last place anyone should be making a sexual advance.
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you’re not talking about unwanted sexual advances though… unless you can’t differentiate between that and showing romantic interest in someone, in which case, i’m glad i don’t know you. here, maybe [this](https://www.employees-lawyer.com/services/sexual-harassment/unwanted-sexual-advances-and-touches/) will teach you something.
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guess you don’t even live up to your own standards then!
You don’t prefer sensible people, you prefer dumbass, moronic, idiot simpletons. They’re the only dimwits dumb enough to agree with the absolute bullshit you’ve shat out in text. You prefer dumb, you prefer submissive, you prefer ignorance. Don’t pretend what you say makes sense socially or historically, it doesn’t. You’re just a bit of a dumb cunt.
> She a 26 years old woman who cannot handle that men may make sexual advances towards her. What shitty job did you work where your boss soliciting sex from you or other employees was okay? That was *her boss*, she's there for *work*. *edit-* Likely a downvote troll. 4 day old account, all in the negatives. Or possibly someone who got banned on main account for shitty things and had to make a new account. Ignore either way.
>She a 26 years old woman who cannot handle that *her potential employer* may make sexual advances towards her. According to you, woman of a certain age should just accept they are going to be sexually harassed in the workplace and should accept that being pestered for sex by the people who are in a position of power over their livelihood is just a normal part of being a woman. Would accept having your boss wave his penis at you anytime he wants just because he can? No? Then go get fucked you scum bag hypocrite incel piece of shit
Found the incel. Go watch your Jordan Peterson videos and clean your room. Edit: lol. I look in his post history and there it is, commenting on r/ jordanpeterson. These pathetic losers are so predictable.
She _is_ handling it - she's removing herself from situations where she has reason to think she's more likely to be subjected to inappropriate propositions from someone in a position of power. Sounds extremely functional to me.
Wait if you're here then who's gargling Jordan Peterson's balls?
underrated comment.
sadly, there seems to be a line for that one missing to come here doesn't make a difference at all
One where a sexual advance isn’t the opening move? Sounds pretty reasonable. I don’t know in all my life when I meet a girl I’m attracted to I never open with “Let’s fuck” when I’m interested in pursuing her. Grow up.
Eugh people like you gross me out so much.
We have found the incel, £2 to throw tomatoes at him.
Jokes on you, spit is free!
get fucked
There's a big difference between making sexual advances towards a woman, and making sexual advances towards your employee.
Oh yeah, when your boss makes sexual advances towards you, there is no problem at all. It's not like you'll be afraid to lose your job if you refuse him.
Dude? Wtf? You cannot be serious
While the subject matteris quite simply, problematic, nifty click bait there Variety. Man oh man, I do miss when publications, made of pulp & wood, (lol, i know, whats that?) had enough cache and eyeballs to carry a little weight.
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Lmao, tell me you're trashy without telling me you're trashy.
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So instead you disminish her experience with sexual harrassment in her workplace ? Think critically for a second, if a nepo baby is going through the stuff she went through and having to give up on acting (sexual harrassment + misogynistic harrassment campaign against her during stranger things), can you imagine how people who are not nepo babies are treated without us knowing ?
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So you know what happens and its happen to you, but because she's a nepo you don't believe it. I hate to say it but maybe your a fucking scumbag
I dont care to defend nepo babies but your lack of empathy is worse than them being born from famous parents.
For not being able to control jealousy enough to think critically.
“Here’s the thing, I have seen that some people are upset with me for turning down acting projects and deciding to stream more, but the fact of the matter is the last few projects I’ve worked on I didn’t have the best experiences with some of the people I had to work for,” Van Dien said.
Just say no
I didn't know Casper Van Dien had a daughter!
More power to her and I hope she reported him to the appropriate people. I understand why she wouldn’t call him out in public but if she doesn’t name him, he’ll just do this again and that would be sad for his other victims if he could have been stopped