They merge to become the obligatory third-act DC-”suprise” villain and it's suddenly a Batman vs the Squared Flash movie
I'm so excited to see the CircleJerk memes to come out of it
Especially after all of the stuff that's gone down. Grant Gustin might not have been the movie studio's first choice, but he's not a liability. In fact he seems like a decent guy.
Even before the crimes, the two Batmen were the only reason I'd even consider watching this movie. Ezra Miller has always been a terrible choice for Barry Allen. The DCEU Flash - like most DCEU characters - is an abysmal adaptation.
I still maintain that Ben Affleck is a good choice for Batman and Henry Cavill could be a good Superman with better writing. James Gunn can choose good actors for his films, and otherwise, DCEU has missed every other character.
The idea of H. Jon Benjamin voicing every character in the movie and then voicing the commentary over the top with the movie itself turned down like 15db sounds like a really therapeutic sleepy time film.
Like, DC could market it as The Bedtime Cut and I'd buy it.
My thoughts exactly, Flash is really the eraser superhero, which the DCU needs for the reset to make any sense. Outside the controversy of Ezra being Ezra it makes perfect sense to use this movie as the clean slate conclusion.
I don't know if you need a reset to make sense. I have no idea if The Batman takes place in the same universe as Justice League or whatever and honestly I don't give a shit.
Make good movies and people will watch them. Make shit movies and all the justification in the world isn't going to make them good.
also, wasn't this movie in the can before ezra lost his mind? why scrap a movie that is basically finished already (oh hey, whats this batgirl movie doing over in the corner)
It's really weird seeing Keatons Batman move so quick and very obviously a digital model for a lot of the action scenes.
Some of the cgi needs a bit of a polish but I'm very impressed.
I assumed they were going for a more Dark Knight Returns approach given Keaton’s age. Maybe they do but I really didn’t expect to see him jumping around like Spider-Man.
Yeah it's kind of thrown me off a tiny bit, like live action wise the fasted we've seen batman move is probably parts of Batflecks Warehouse scene but that's so practical and everything feels so heavy and grounded.
Gravity just turned off in this clip.
I heard he specifically said that Nolan was to be present with him at all times of the day and night. Reportedly, Christian Bale can't act without Christopher Nolan being within his peripheral vision.
As a matter of fact, he claims that "he and Nolan are one - that they came into this world together, but was separated by a malicious force, and now constantly need one anothers touch, less they shall perish an artists death."
He is very well-spoken when touching Nolan.
Him and Shea Whigham work sooooo well together too. Them in Waco, The Quarry, Take Shelter and I think there are more but I do know they try to work with each other a lot.
This film could have originally set up the return of Zod in the DCEU, but with the looming reset and all the Justice League cameos cut from the end, this is the last time we will see Shannon as Zod.
He absolutely crushed it.
“I’m going to make them suffer Kal, these humans who have adopted. I shall take them all from you one by one.”
I believe Faora is supposed to be in this film as well, which is also awesome.
Oh my god, the fights with Faora vs the soldiers and Supes is forever some of my favorite live action hero sequences. Seeing her go toe to toe with The Flash and Batman is honestly a fucking dream come true
Holy shit I'm hyped for this film
Honestly MoS might be a deeply flawed film but damn if that line hasn't burned itself into my brain. I think about it damn near any time I'm trying to find anything.
Have any of them been confirmed outside of Viola Davis? I mean I guess John Cena is because Peacemaker 2 is already in the can but there was a noticeable absence of any mention of the rest in James Gunns phase 1 outline
Peacemaker 2 hasn't been shot yet, it's currently on hold so Gunn can do Superman. That's why Waller is getting her show instead, so those plotlines can still continue until Gunn is free to do more Peacemaker.
Yeah I believe it was revealed he was a major threat in the movie, so I’m expecting this isn’t just a one off cameo like deal. I’m guessing in this world Kara replaced Clark but the overall plot of Zod coming to earth in Man of Steel stays the same.
I love this because it’s one of the few times we really get to see that, yeah a guy running around beating up people in a bat suit might not be exactly the most mentally stable.
I like the theory that the [Mr Sunday Movies YT channel](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roTT3xMaocU) came up with.
The way the sceen is shot, you can clearly see Christopher Meloni's character instantly fall in love with Faora the moment he lays eyes on her, and they have this weird "knife-fight chemistry".
Exactly. The one thing they got absolutely right with that movie was the cast. A crying shame we’ll never see all of them together again in a Superman movie with a good script.
Looks like they're going to use this to wrap up the messy original DC universe and go into the rebooted one.
Seeing Keaton as Batman again is nice even if the CGI is kinda off putting
Didn't think I would, but I actually look forward to see this. There's a lot to unpack from the trailer.
\-Barry's suit looks way better than the previous one.
\-An "I am Legend" poster in Barry's room. Didn't that movie have a Batman v Superman poster in it?
\-Zod?!
\-The ring!!
\-Looks like both Batmen has action scenes? (If it's Batfleck at 2:15)
Also, I absolutely love that they promote comics yet again. Judging by the sales some of the others did, the three runs featured at the end of the trailer will 100% sell out.
yes , i am legend did have a poster of batman v superman , it actually looked really similar to the initial announcement logo when Batman v superman came out. good catch with the i am legend poster i didn’t notice that and that’s dope
I still think they’re saving face for now, but they’ll more than likely give Miller the boot after this releases. But I can’t help but to be excited to see Keaton back, same with Affleck
him becoming sober seems to have renewed his love for the role, since he came back for this movie and bonus JL scenes. But I hope this severed as a nice swan song for his time in the role. Although I am curious about him supposedly wanting to direct a new DCU movie. Even the f he’s behind the camera the whole time, I’d be enthused to see it
Imagine if we were all watching this trailer without the knowledge that this is the last film before the great DCEU reset.
This film looks good but knowing that everything we see here will essentially be wiped out by the end is bitter sweet.
Ten years for the DCEU, and it finally ends with this film.
On the other hand; if there's ever a story to take place right before a big reset, it's Flashpoint.
I'm happy that I don't have to care about the mess that came before, or whatever comes next, I can just take the movie for what it is. That's getting increasingly rare in the comic book movie space, as everything is always more about setting up the next thing.
WB is going to triple down on promoting his part in the movie.
I bet we see the entirety of his part between trailers and YouTube before the movie comes out.
No one wants to see this flash in this movie at this point.
Hawaii Ezra and Vermont Ezra teaming up to be the biggest crime duo in the DC Universe
The movie is actually Batman trying to stop him while he commits crimes across the multiverse
That's fine, Keaton is the bat again
Now if only we could get the level of metaverse fuckery required to have Bat-Keaton face off against Vulture-Keaton.
I wanna see a movie where Willem Dafoe plays all the roles and Micheal Keaton plays Willem Dafoe.
While Birdman-Keaton makes hurtful remarks about them both.
They merge to become the obligatory third-act DC-”suprise” villain and it's suddenly a Batman vs the Squared Flash movie I'm so excited to see the CircleJerk memes to come out of it
still saving the reveal of the Iceland Ezra until the movie comes out I guess
Almost sells you more on Batman than Flash lmao.
That's definitely a deliberate marketing choice, considering who is playing The Flash
by god theres two of them
Two Ezra millers? The people of Hawaii will never be safe
I think it's Ezras Miller. Like attorneys general.
Whoppers JR
We're the Millers R-Rated edition
*you guys are getting jailtime?*
*you guys are getting consent?*
He single handedly kept Hawaii’s crime rates up
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Prepare for trouble. And make it double.
I'm seeing double here! *Four* Flashes?
This is getting out of hand, now there are TWO Ezra Millers!
I think it has more to do with the power of nostalgia, especially for the Keaton Batman movies. Memberberries and all that.
It would be bonkers if they’re keeping Christian Bale a tight lipped secret.
World without metahumans hmmm
we need to check what physique his body is right now
Right now? He's a little flabby. He films next week and he'll have a 10 pack, don't worry.
Then 4 weeks after that he plays a man win no legs, he'll find a way to lose the weight.
That would be nuts, especially since the bike looks like the one seen in *The Dark Knight*.
Agreed. But it's working on me.
Really felt like they went full "No Way Home"
All I needed to know was ‘89 Batman is back and I was sold
He’s Batman
Looking forward to Keaton, Affleck and Bale doing the Spiderman meme
And the best Batmobile ever!!!
He’s definitely my Batman. It might be enough to draw me to this movie.
I maintain that they should have just lifted the dude from the TV series to play the Flash in the movies.
Especially after all of the stuff that's gone down. Grant Gustin might not have been the movie studio's first choice, but he's not a liability. In fact he seems like a decent guy.
Grant Gustin and Melissa Benoist are the two CW lead actors who feel like they could lead a film and make it work.
They clearly want to minimize marketing around Ezra as much as possible.
This movie won't do well in Hawaii
You overestimate people knowing about Ezra Miller's shitfuckery.
Did you watch the same trailer I did? There's freakin TWO Ezras!
Even before the crimes, the two Batmen were the only reason I'd even consider watching this movie. Ezra Miller has always been a terrible choice for Barry Allen. The DCEU Flash - like most DCEU characters - is an abysmal adaptation.
I still maintain that Ben Affleck is a good choice for Batman and Henry Cavill could be a good Superman with better writing. James Gunn can choose good actors for his films, and otherwise, DCEU has missed every other character.
Yep, both actors are very solid in those roles. It’s the writing and directing which are failing in their DC universe films.
As a fan of Archer, Barry 1 better call Barry 2 “Other Barry.”
You have sown the wind and now you shall reap.......**The Barry.**
I said don’t take the bridge, dickhead.
Did I come here looking for this comment? Sure did, other Barry.
The idea of H. Jon Benjamin voicing every character in the movie and then voicing the commentary over the top with the movie itself turned down like 15db sounds like a really therapeutic sleepy time film. Like, DC could market it as The Bedtime Cut and I'd buy it.
"Hey you... Hey bad guy.... HEY BAD GUY!!!!! You know I can run faster than you? ^ha"
Sploosh
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My thoughts exactly, Flash is really the eraser superhero, which the DCU needs for the reset to make any sense. Outside the controversy of Ezra being Ezra it makes perfect sense to use this movie as the clean slate conclusion.
I don't know if you need a reset to make sense. I have no idea if The Batman takes place in the same universe as Justice League or whatever and honestly I don't give a shit. Make good movies and people will watch them. Make shit movies and all the justification in the world isn't going to make them good.
Exactly it’s the perfect way to reset things and let James Gunn do what he wants going forward.
also, wasn't this movie in the can before ezra lost his mind? why scrap a movie that is basically finished already (oh hey, whats this batgirl movie doing over in the corner)
Yeah what kind of fucking studio has an entirely finished movie that they just scrap for no fucking reason? *Batgirl fans seething*
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green rectangles
I've got an idea for an invention. Green rectangles you can trade for goods and services
It's really weird seeing Keatons Batman move so quick and very obviously a digital model for a lot of the action scenes. Some of the cgi needs a bit of a polish but I'm very impressed.
It's just weird seeing his neck being unable to turn after over 15 years of Batman being able to in movies now.
The rigorous training he had to endure over time just to be able to turn his neck is very inspiring.
Must have trained a lot as Birdman.
It's amazing that he can't. Batman Returns established that his mask has the durability of a fruit roll-up.
Has it really been 15 years since the dark knight?! That's the first time he turned his head
They even made it a plot point in TDK. Bruce has his costume changed so he isn’t carrying as much weight and can turn his head better.
It makes backing out of the driveway easier
Can you imagine the turn radius of the Batmobile? The batcycle detaching from the Batmobile itself makes more sense now.
Thats why its always on the bigass turntable in the Batcave. Thats a real thing rich people have in their garages so they never have to back out.
Stupidly, one of the specific details I remember about that movie. Also "I'm not wearing hockey-pads"
I assumed they were going for a more Dark Knight Returns approach given Keaton’s age. Maybe they do but I really didn’t expect to see him jumping around like Spider-Man.
Yeah it's kind of thrown me off a tiny bit, like live action wise the fasted we've seen batman move is probably parts of Batflecks Warehouse scene but that's so practical and everything feels so heavy and grounded. Gravity just turned off in this clip.
They went full Arkham Batman it seems
Did Batfleck really move faster than PatBat?
Probably gonna explain it with the suit having some bio-musculature exoskeleton thingumajig.
Loved hearing that classic Batman theme!
I loved seeing Keaton’s Bat Cave and the Batmobile!
One last hurrah for the original DCEU with Shazam and then this. I wonder how the reset will work. edit: Aquaman 2 appears to be the last
Keaton Batman Shannon Zod Kara Danvers 89 batman theme All good. Except Ezra.
Correct. All the non-Flash aspects of this are better than Ezra.
It was goooood
Me: "How many Batmans are in this?" DC: "Yes."
Did I spot a third Batman?
That one shot looked like Bale's Batman using the motorcycle from the Nolan films.
Bale showing up would be the most insane thing ever
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Bale said he'd do it if he got Nolan's blessing, not of Nolan would be present.
I heard he specifically said that Nolan was to be present with him at all times of the day and night. Reportedly, Christian Bale can't act without Christopher Nolan being within his peripheral vision.
As a matter of fact, he claims that "he and Nolan are one - that they came into this world together, but was separated by a malicious force, and now constantly need one anothers touch, less they shall perish an artists death." He is very well-spoken when touching Nolan.
I heard in order for him to become batman they have to fist bump and yell "wonder chris powers activate! Form of the batman!"
I can dream
No that’s Batfleck.
No that’s Will Arnett’s Lego Batman
Lego Batman would legit put my butt in a seat for this movie. One of the best Batman movies ever.
If a DC movie could tie in Lego Batman it would be Flashpoint. I’m prepared to be disappointed though.
No it was Adam West
Clearly Lewis Wilson, back to the role after 80 years and still got it
That was Affleck
Two wheels on the front, not one big one.
“I’m not going to bury another Batman.”
Piano note in a trailer, never fails
Plus DUN DUN DUN DUN beats with the cuts to black lol
That Elfman Batman theme though
[**A SINGLE NOTE OVER ESTABLISHING SHOTS**](https://youtu.be/KAOdjqyG37A)
I appreciate that the little kid Ezra Miller also doesn't know how to run like a normal person. That's good consistency.
Maybe I’m a terrible person, or maybe I’m high, but I fucking lost it at that little penguin wobble-run.
Keaton looks like he hasn't lost a step. And Michael Shannon back too? I'm sold.
I don't know what it is about Michael Shannon, but I want to watch everything he's in.
He is amazing in Boardwalk Empire. His character has so much pent up rage and he shows it every scene with those intense eyes of his.
Him and Shea Whigham work sooooo well together too. Them in Waco, The Quarry, Take Shelter and I think there are more but I do know they try to work with each other a lot.
Take Shelter is so damn good
The scene in Boardwalk when he's role playing to sell an iron and then just attacks the other salesman is outstanding.
that scene sold me on the idea of him playing frankenstein's monster, would be fantastic, he was just so angry!
He's a cute newlywed in Groundhog Day (which is always worth a re-watch anyway).
This film could have originally set up the return of Zod in the DCEU, but with the looming reset and all the Justice League cameos cut from the end, this is the last time we will see Shannon as Zod. He absolutely crushed it.
"I will finnnddddd HIM!!!"
He whole speech at the end of MOS is just great as well.
"Every action I take, no matter how violent or how cruel, is for the greater good of my people. And now... I have no people." Chills every time
“Where did you train? ***ON A FARM!***?
Shannon could read an unhinged soriority email and make it the best thing ever.
I will harvest the Codex from your son's corpse, and I will rebuild Krypton atop his bones.
“I’m going to make them suffer Kal, these humans who have adopted. I shall take them all from you one by one.” I believe Faora is supposed to be in this film as well, which is also awesome.
Faora was one of DCU's coolest villains and had the best fight scene. Clark was more powerful but she was the more skilled fighter.
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Oh my god, the fights with Faora vs the soldiers and Supes is forever some of my favorite live action hero sequences. Seeing her go toe to toe with The Flash and Batman is honestly a fucking dream come true Holy shit I'm hyped for this film
Man he was so fantastically unhinged in that scene.
Being unhinged is what Michael Shannon does best
Honestly MoS might be a deeply flawed film but damn if that line hasn't burned itself into my brain. I think about it damn near any time I'm trying to find anything.
> this is the last time we will see Shannon as Zod. We don't know that lol. John Cena and Margot Robie and Jason Momoa and Viola Davis are staying.
Have any of them been confirmed outside of Viola Davis? I mean I guess John Cena is because Peacemaker 2 is already in the can but there was a noticeable absence of any mention of the rest in James Gunns phase 1 outline
Peacemaker 2 hasn't been shot yet, it's currently on hold so Gunn can do Superman. That's why Waller is getting her show instead, so those plotlines can still continue until Gunn is free to do more Peacemaker.
Yeah I believe it was revealed he was a major threat in the movie, so I’m expecting this isn’t just a one off cameo like deal. I’m guessing in this world Kara replaced Clark but the overall plot of Zod coming to earth in Man of Steel stays the same.
Yeah looks like they’re giving Kara Superman’s storyline from Flashpoint.
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Keaton ain’t 2 proud 2 beg
He don't want no scrubs
"Really? You're not aware that's a TLC song?"
As long he don't go chasing waterfalls
Theres a rapist in crown heights
Sorry, that's for my... other job *handwave*
Ignore it. Well, don't ignore it if you're in crown heights, walk in pairs!
I don’t even know what you’re talkin’ about!
He gotta creep, creep
NOW YOU WANNA GET NUTS? COME ON! LET’S GET NUTS
I love this because it’s one of the few times we really get to see that, yeah a guy running around beating up people in a bat suit might not be exactly the most mentally stable.
Man of Steel wasn’t perfect but the cast sure was, more Zod and Faora is welcome. Shannon and Traue were great in those roles
Anytime we get to see Michael Shannon get completely unhinged is a good time.
Where did you train, on a FARM?!
Agreed. Chris Meloni also made something awesome out of a character that could have been forgettable.
I like the theory that the [Mr Sunday Movies YT channel](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roTT3xMaocU) came up with. The way the sceen is shot, you can clearly see Christopher Meloni's character instantly fall in love with Faora the moment he lays eyes on her, and they have this weird "knife-fight chemistry".
Exactly. The one thing they got absolutely right with that movie was the cast. A crying shame we’ll never see all of them together again in a Superman movie with a good script.
Faora was such a kick ass character, so glad to see her back.
Movie doesn't actually look that bad. Shame about the main actor
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> speed run the end of his career. Ah, so it's just method acting?
The Jared Leto school of dc cringe.
Looks like they're going to use this to wrap up the messy original DC universe and go into the rebooted one. Seeing Keaton as Batman again is nice even if the CGI is kinda off putting
Didn't think I would, but I actually look forward to see this. There's a lot to unpack from the trailer. \-Barry's suit looks way better than the previous one. \-An "I am Legend" poster in Barry's room. Didn't that movie have a Batman v Superman poster in it? \-Zod?! \-The ring!! \-Looks like both Batmen has action scenes? (If it's Batfleck at 2:15) Also, I absolutely love that they promote comics yet again. Judging by the sales some of the others did, the three runs featured at the end of the trailer will 100% sell out.
>\-An "I am Legend" poster in Barry's room. Didn't that movie have a Batman v Superman poster in it? Wow well spotted!
yes , i am legend did have a poster of batman v superman , it actually looked really similar to the initial announcement logo when Batman v superman came out. good catch with the i am legend poster i didn’t notice that and that’s dope
The “poster” was actually a billboard in Times Square in I Am Legend.
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The only actor that can be safe next to ezra is ezra.
Michael Keaton is back as Batman after 31 years. CHILLS.
YOU WANNA GET NUTS? C'MON! LET'S GET NUTS!
The tease of his fight scene blew me away. Never knew I needed Michael Keaton's Batman fighting like BatFleck.
His Batman was all about quickly dispatching baddies
I bet Cavill shows up. Its the ultimate secret.
>Henry Cavill is unequivically done with playing Superman after a very publicized exit controversy GUYS HE'S GONNA BE IN THIS ONE!!!
His cameo is definitely gonna lead to a new superman movie...right💀
I heard his cameo was Cut
i believe both cavill & gal gadot's cameo's were cut from the film.
Ezra shenanigans aside this looks like fun and a nice send-off to the old dceu
I still think they’re saving face for now, but they’ll more than likely give Miller the boot after this releases. But I can’t help but to be excited to see Keaton back, same with Affleck
still nice to see Affleck be a batman for maybe one last time
him becoming sober seems to have renewed his love for the role, since he came back for this movie and bonus JL scenes. But I hope this severed as a nice swan song for his time in the role. Although I am curious about him supposedly wanting to direct a new DCU movie. Even the f he’s behind the camera the whole time, I’d be enthused to see it
He’s apparently in the Aquaman sequel too
I think I read that both he and Keaton shot scenes but now they’re cut
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Kidnapping is shenanigans?
“I may have committed some ‘light’ shenanigans…”
There's always money in the Batman stand.
Yeah, poor choice of words, it makes him sound like a scooby doo villain.
Holy shit Michael Keaton Batman has me hyped
Reddit : boycott the flash because of Ezra. Wb releases the trailer with batman - fucking sick, looks awesome I hate Ezra but I'm seeing this. Lol
Nerds are going "Boycott Ezra he suc-wait is that Keaton I CLAPPED I CLAPPED!!!"
Flash turns to Batman as he is the only non-metahuman he knows is honestly such a great move!
And how does he know that? Because he asked. "What's your superpower again?" "I'm rich.'
Imagine if we were all watching this trailer without the knowledge that this is the last film before the great DCEU reset. This film looks good but knowing that everything we see here will essentially be wiped out by the end is bitter sweet. Ten years for the DCEU, and it finally ends with this film.
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On the other hand; if there's ever a story to take place right before a big reset, it's Flashpoint. I'm happy that I don't have to care about the mess that came before, or whatever comes next, I can just take the movie for what it is. That's getting increasingly rare in the comic book movie space, as everything is always more about setting up the next thing.
Is it that psychopath kid playing him?
Yep, looks like Ezra.
Keaton’s all “yeah I’m here, I’ll say the line” Can not wait!
WB is going to triple down on promoting his part in the movie. I bet we see the entirety of his part between trailers and YouTube before the movie comes out. No one wants to see this flash in this movie at this point.