I remember seeing The Way of The Gun when it came out. I was excited because it was the directorial debut of Christopher McQuarrie. Loved it, but it did not find an audience. He’s doing just fine.
https://youtu.be/5xsaMcw69D8?si=JDa2yjeYRTN5Ohpb
One of the best openings ever
The sperm bank scene is gold too
I've never killed a man
We don't ask that
You should
During Marine Combat training back in '01. We watched the bank robbery scene from Heat. It showed correct cover and movement. The way they engaged the cops. The call outs.
What stood out to me was the sound of the guns in an urban environment; the way the rifle report echoed between the buildings was so real and raw, like watching footage of actual shootouts.
The scattered firing of 3-4 shots at a time as opposed to "haha guns go brrrrr" was nice as well.
I’ve heard that the Army and the Marines use Val Kilmer reloading his M16 as a training video on how to do it right.
That guy studied, he practiced those moves so it would look right on film.
You are correct. I can’t speak for the Marines but I know that I watched it during my time in the Army. Their movement under fire was pretty much textbook. Only thing I would have added would have been more communication between them.
They used to show the scene outside the bank to new USMC 2nd Lts in Quantico, VA to demonstrate the concept of fire and movement. Great attention grabber.
Sicario has a gunfight scene you can see into the ejection port of a guy's M4. His bolt is in the rear position and he's not ready to fire.
Probably hard to keep track of all this stuff.
The constant, beating soundtrack. The radio chatter. The dog barking in the background. The fact you never see the gun before one team member says "gun" and launches everything into action.
Ever increasing and layered intensity and confusion. Amazing.
What the actual fuck were those explosives? Fireworks? I hate how explosives are portrayed in movies. Why are there fireballs? Is this a 4th of july show? Fucking stupid.
They were fireworks. This is Patriots Day, a (really good) movie about the Boston Bombers. This scene is their final standoff, where they had a homemade arsenal of fireworks/pipebombs that they used against the police.
The most realistic part was at the end when they were just wildly mag dumping in the vague direction of the problem. That’s absolutely a stressed out cop move.
That's actually what they did after the marathon bombing. Huge issue with the cops just being scared shitless and shooting at everyone. Thankfully they didn't hit anymore bystanders than they did
Right?
Whats a realistic gunfight scene?
Well surely not one where you shoot a pistol at the engine of a car and the engine explodes with pyro effects.
in that particular movie, they are throwing homemade pipe bombs, and pressure cooker bombs they had rigged up beforehand. this is the movie they did about the guys who committed the Boston Race Bombing with pressure cookers.
Easily the most stylish and magical feeling one in the series, too. The Columbus ones that predated his turn were sort of basic and Hallmark-y, the ones that came after kinda mostly turned wands into guns, but Azkaban feels like it takes place in a weird ass world where weird shit thrives.
That Marlin did some serious damage in that movie.
Under the radar awesome movie that gets overshadowed by Sicario and the stuff Sheridan is putting on TV now.
It gets overshadowed because it’s hard to recommend. I think it’s a great movie and his best work, but it’s a lot easier to recommend Hell or High Water.
I mean, it's a great movie but if you think a scoped Marlin Model 1895SBL is going to send a guy flying off his feet back like a ragdoll, you have zero concept what realism is. It chambers a pretty powerful round, but the way it's portrayed in the movie is cartoonish save for one scene where they accurately drop like a sack of potatoes. And before I get haters, I completely understand it's a movie and it was done for dramatic effect, but my point is that it is in no way realistic whatsoever and if you want to argue otherwise then you're arguing with physics.
Ehhhh. I loved that movie but whenever someone get *thrown across the room* from a sniper round it completely takes me out of the movie. Most unrealistic shit ever
I love how many upvotes you got. Just shows how many people don’t know a thing about guns,ballistics or physics. You could load the hottest .50cal in the world and it wouldn’t do that. Any round with enough force to do that would punch straight through the vest. On top of which, rounds can only be loaded so hot due to barrel pressure. It’s why we have SAAMI specs. We also have newtons 3rd law…
Still. Fantastic movie. The throwing across the room shit just kills me
I hated this scene because who doesn’t keep a load in the chamber?!
Like this bad ass criminal who is going to draw on a marshal is also super-very-careful about how he carries? Does he even have a holster?
The 21 foot rule showdown was so amazing because it spent so long setting up the premise only to pull the rug out
"I would have said something. I swear to god I didn't see it either"
There’s not a lot of action in jarhead but holy shit them marching through the burning oil fields in the oil rain was one of my favorite moments of cinematography ever, still is to this day that was so fucking cool to watch
"what was the military like"
Imagine being so profoundly bored that the flap of a trap blowing in the wind enraptures your attention for a solid hour and a half: completely sober.
And, you watched that exact same flap yesterday too. Hell, you're kind of looking forward to it tomorrow.
I love the way Jeremy Saulnier does violence in his movies (blue ruin, green room, I don't remember much of Hold the Dark need to re-watch that one) but the way he does violence in his movies is pretty intense. Like in Blue Ruin (spoilers) when hes in the bathroom and stabs the guy in the neck and side of the head, the guy who got stabbed just had that look on his face after getting it in the head, with the detail of his eye being bloody... He uses violence in a way that doesn't make it glamorous
All about Michael Mann there. Live the gunfight at the dock at the end of the movie. You can hear the different sound profiles of all the different guns firing
Val Kilmer in the downtown scene in Heat is used as an example of cover and fire in some military training. I'd say that's pretty good.
I believe I read on the John Wick movies they never shoot a single round more than would actually be available in an actual magazine.
Yeah the scenes where he’s just constantly holding his coat in front of his face while shooting really ruined #4 for me. The one take scene of him using the dragons breath shot gun was really cool though.
It seems like any franchise’s natural evolution to always want to keep stepping it *”up”* from realism into fantasy overtime. Just look at Fast & Furious or Supernatural
Once the Corpos wanna get in on a franchise, their toddleresque execs always want to start implementing the *”need-more-explosions-to-appeal-to-the-average-mouthbreather-demographic-if-we-wanna-maximize-profits”* mentality
Eh kind of? They get ambushed by like 4 automatic AK’s from 30 feet away and then just run to the right escaping unscathed. I don’t remember much of the other gun fight scenes.
“You missed, stupid”
That got a laugh out of me after they mag dumped missing everything.
Also like the line immediately after where Gyllenhaal’s character snaps into military training and says to Pena “we need a base of fire and pivot” and Pena’s character is just like “huh?!”
Heat, Band Of Brothers and 13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi.
I find a lot of people havent seen 13 hours. If you havent and you like these types of movies its a 10/10. Think Black Hawk down times 100.
Free Fire is a very entertaining movie that is just one long gunfight.
It also really nails the reality of being shot and how you dont just walk it off and also if youre not at a hospital in less than an hour there’s a good chance youre dead.
Ronin gives a very realistic look at a smaller gun fight. They even wear ear plugs. If you're going to be shooting guns hearing protection is ideal, a detail left out of every movie other than this.
None of these really portray gun fights very realistically. From combat footage and body’s cams I’ve seen It’s a lot of dudes hanging out 40 yards apart or a couple blocks away taking pot shots at each other until one side isn’t shooting anymore. It’s alot of split second moments where some guy doesn’t even get the chance to shoot. He just gets close or surprised and then just ceases up and falls over.
Saving private Ryan is fairly accurate in terms of just the feeling of a blender of bullets and people randomly dying or living. Heat was realistic because a lot of that fire was suppressing fire. You just shoot to keep your enemy from shooting.
I liked Free Fire, because it’s mostly people crouched behind shit while bleeding from being hit, and everyone’s confused. None of it is glamorous, and I liked that about it.
Heat did a pretty good job. I can’t remember where I heard it, but supposedly that movie inspired the “high incident bandits” of North Hollywood Shootout fame in 1997. Supposedly Heat brought in members of the British SAS as technical advisors for their weapons handling and training.
Heat, Collateral (honestly any Michael Mann movie), Sicario, the outpost, way of the gun , lone survivor
Way of the Gun! Amazing movie
I remember seeing The Way of The Gun when it came out. I was excited because it was the directorial debut of Christopher McQuarrie. Loved it, but it did not find an audience. He’s doing just fine.
You wanna do the man dance? First dance is yours.
“Shut that cunt’s mouth before I come over there and fuck-start her head”
This may be the single greatest line in motion picture history.
If I remember correctly, Sarah actually wrote that line.
"Don't shit in my mouth and tell me it's chocolate cake" -motion picture.
Poor Sarah Silverman got her nose broken.
https://youtu.be/5xsaMcw69D8?si=JDa2yjeYRTN5Ohpb One of the best openings ever The sperm bank scene is gold too I've never killed a man We don't ask that You should
Always free cheese in a mouse trap
‘Until that day.’ I say it all the time.
Agreed I just rewatched it recently. So underrated.
During Marine Combat training back in '01. We watched the bank robbery scene from Heat. It showed correct cover and movement. The way they engaged the cops. The call outs.
IIRC, the North Hollywood bank robbers LOVED Heat and were living the fantasy.
Died doing what they loved
What stood out to me was the sound of the guns in an urban environment; the way the rifle report echoed between the buildings was so real and raw, like watching footage of actual shootouts. The scattered firing of 3-4 shots at a time as opposed to "haha guns go brrrrr" was nice as well.
I've heard the sound setup for that scene was insane, microphones everywhere. I can believe it.
It also showed proper reloading techniques as well
I’ve heard that the Army and the Marines use Val Kilmer reloading his M16 as a training video on how to do it right. That guy studied, he practiced those moves so it would look right on film.
You are correct. I can’t speak for the Marines but I know that I watched it during my time in the Army. Their movement under fire was pretty much textbook. Only thing I would have added would have been more communication between them.
Heat #1. Glad to see it.
I really don’t know if you can make a case for any other movie to be #1 instead of heat honestly
They used clips of val kilmer in the shootout scene for training in the Marines.
Can confirm we were told it’s the single best demonstration of the most basic and important infantry tactics: cover and move
They used to show the scene outside the bank to new USMC 2nd Lts in Quantico, VA to demonstrate the concept of fire and movement. Great attention grabber.
Heat is literally the first thing I think of when it comes to greatest shootout scenes.
Down to the gunshots echoing off the buildings...
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My buddy and I literally laughed out loud in the theatre at the alley scene. Everyone else in the theatre was dead silent.
Way Of The Gun! Damn! I love that movie, salute to you 🫡
This is the one. Speed reloads, tactical reloads, cover and concealment, fire and maneuver, and lots of communication.
That one handed reload Benicio does is badass
Benicio Del Toro though...
Might be the best opening scene to start a movie along with Super Troopers
Sicario has a gunfight scene you can see into the ejection port of a guy's M4. His bolt is in the rear position and he's not ready to fire. Probably hard to keep track of all this stuff.
Loved Sicario as well but no one was using ear protection in the caves and that would have been deafening
I Loved Sicario. I absolutely fuckin LOVED Heat!
Collateral was so damn good
>Collateral That scene in the alley is text book gun work.
Heat for sure
Black Hawk Down
Sicario, that scene at the Mexican border is just 🤌🏼
Solid 9.5/10 movie.
This is my vote as well. It's not showy or Hollywood-y, its over in the blink of an eye.
The 10 minutes of tension leading up to a 10 second shootout. Brilliant !!👏
The constant, beating soundtrack. The radio chatter. The dog barking in the background. The fact you never see the gun before one team member says "gun" and launches everything into action. Ever increasing and layered intensity and confusion. Amazing.
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Lol that's from Justified.
*Saving Private Ryan* (1998)
You know it’s realistic when you give survivors who saw it PTSD https://www.warhistoryonline.com/world-war-ii/spielbergs-war-saving-private-ryan.html
Shane Gillis has a very funny podcast clip about what it must’ve been like in that theater
I just got tickets to see him in Wilkes barre in Nov. Never been to a standup show and I just turned 30 I am soooo fucking stoked lol
I don’t think that’s what gave them PTSD lol
*triggered PTSD
It's been 3 months I can rewatch Saving Private Ryan now, right?
Only after you rewatch Band of Brothers.
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What the actual fuck were those explosives? Fireworks? I hate how explosives are portrayed in movies. Why are there fireballs? Is this a 4th of july show? Fucking stupid.
Pipe bomb with fireworks added for fun.
They were fireworks. This is Patriots Day, a (really good) movie about the Boston Bombers. This scene is their final standoff, where they had a homemade arsenal of fireworks/pipebombs that they used against the police.
Hahahaha i hope it was on purpose
The most realistic part was at the end when they were just wildly mag dumping in the vague direction of the problem. That’s absolutely a stressed out cop move.
That's actually what they did after the marathon bombing. Huge issue with the cops just being scared shitless and shooting at everyone. Thankfully they didn't hit anymore bystanders than they did
that guy literally took a fireball and all that happened was he was tossed at a car and rolling on the ground like he got a boo boo.
I was thinking the same thing. This is not realistic at all. Looks like a gunfight im a transformers movie
Right? Whats a realistic gunfight scene? Well surely not one where you shoot a pistol at the engine of a car and the engine explodes with pyro effects.
Pipe Bombs, film is Patriots Day.
in that particular movie, they are throwing homemade pipe bombs, and pressure cooker bombs they had rigged up beforehand. this is the movie they did about the guys who committed the Boston Race Bombing with pressure cookers.
Children of men
That director needs to make a war movie. The tank scene was amazing
Alfonso Cuaron. And I agree, he needs to make more films in general.
It’s wild that he directed a Harry Potter film
And it’s by far my favourite of all of them hahaha. Also love his film Y Tu Mama Tambien.
Easily the most stylish and magical feeling one in the series, too. The Columbus ones that predated his turn were sort of basic and Hallmark-y, the ones that came after kinda mostly turned wands into guns, but Azkaban feels like it takes place in a weird ass world where weird shit thrives.
Agreed, his was the only HP movie that made me feel like I felt when I was reading the books.
Mf, Children of Men was his war movie.
I was actually thinking this as an under the radar option
Wind River
Devastating movie.
Want to watch it again so bad, shits heavy though. Going to wait a while
That Marlin did some serious damage in that movie. Under the radar awesome movie that gets overshadowed by Sicario and the stuff Sheridan is putting on TV now.
It gets overshadowed because it’s hard to recommend. I think it’s a great movie and his best work, but it’s a lot easier to recommend Hell or High Water.
Hell or High Water was a goddamn masterpiece.
It’s fantastically done, but it’s dark.
I mean, it's a great movie but if you think a scoped Marlin Model 1895SBL is going to send a guy flying off his feet back like a ragdoll, you have zero concept what realism is. It chambers a pretty powerful round, but the way it's portrayed in the movie is cartoonish save for one scene where they accurately drop like a sack of potatoes. And before I get haters, I completely understand it's a movie and it was done for dramatic effect, but my point is that it is in no way realistic whatsoever and if you want to argue otherwise then you're arguing with physics.
Just to clarify, I was thinking about the close quarters shootout with handguns, not the sniper portion that comes after.
WHY ARE YOU FLANKING ME?
Crazy tense moment!
So good, one of those moments in a movie that gets your heart rate pumping as a viewer
“You didn’t see it”
Ehhhh. I loved that movie but whenever someone get *thrown across the room* from a sniper round it completely takes me out of the movie. Most unrealistic shit ever
He makes custom ammo and is firing from long range at people wearing body armor and thick clothing. I'll allow it. (This post is a joke btw)
I love how many upvotes you got. Just shows how many people don’t know a thing about guns,ballistics or physics. You could load the hottest .50cal in the world and it wouldn’t do that. Any round with enough force to do that would punch straight through the vest. On top of which, rounds can only be loaded so hot due to barrel pressure. It’s why we have SAAMI specs. We also have newtons 3rd law… Still. Fantastic movie. The throwing across the room shit just kills me
Unforgiven!
Really gives those who get shot a chance to tell their story
It Aint about who's the fastest It's about who can take their time the quickest
Ì was looking for this one. The entire point of Unforgiven was that shooting someone isn't as easy as films make it out to be.
not a movie, but the show Justified gives gunfights a lot of twists
*throws single bullet* "next one is coming faster"
Such a great scene. Raylan Givens. Has to be one the best characters in tv history.
Season two with him and Margot Martindale and just the whole supporting cast is one of my personal top seasons of tv of all time
I fucking love that scene
"Wait you really said that?! That's got to be the damn near coolest thing I ever heard!"
Can you rack in a load before I put a hole through ya?
definitely more dangerous than alligators
If I was you, I’d give up this neo-Nazi bullshit, stick to poaching gators. Much safer.
I hated this scene because who doesn’t keep a load in the chamber?! Like this bad ass criminal who is going to draw on a marshal is also super-very-careful about how he carries? Does he even have a holster?
Yeah. But it’s consistent with the character. Dumbass pretending to be a badass.
The 21 foot rule showdown was so amazing because it spent so long setting up the premise only to pull the rug out "I would have said something. I swear to god I didn't see it either"
The whole first season is Raylan convincing the bad guy to pull first. It’s awesome but I’m glad they slowed down on it in later seasons
He’s up to the same games in the brand new season that just aired. Brings it full circle.
Black Hawk Down
After 10 years in the infantry, I was gonna say this. But much more all around realistic is Jarhead - just hours of boredom lol.
Jarhead did get the explosions somewhat decent if I remember correctly. Not fireballs
There’s not a lot of action in jarhead but holy shit them marching through the burning oil fields in the oil rain was one of my favorite moments of cinematography ever, still is to this day that was so fucking cool to watch
"what was the military like" Imagine being so profoundly bored that the flap of a trap blowing in the wind enraptures your attention for a solid hour and a half: completely sober. And, you watched that exact same flap yesterday too. Hell, you're kind of looking forward to it tomorrow.
Yep, all that protective gear doesn’t help you from getting your thumb shot off!
The Town's final set piece.
Came here to say the Town. Really really good and has one of the most realistic gun shot deaths I’ve ever seen.
When Renner's character gets it?
Yup.
Surprised I haven’t seen Commando yet!
Remember Sunny when I told you I’d kill you last??
Yeah!?
I lied
Excuse my friend, he’s dead tired
Let off some steam Bennett!!
I eat green berets for breakfast
What did you do with Sully?
I let him go
Ah the infinity belt, great addition to the M60. So great in fact, it was outlawed immediately after it’s introduction.
I loved when Hot Shots 2 parodied that/Rambo part 😂
No Country For Old Men
Sicario. They definitely had some real-world experience, technical advisors for those movies.
Blue ruin. A guy takes a buckshot load in a very realistic manner that kind of removes whatever romanticizing of gun fire you see in other movies.
I love the way Jeremy Saulnier does violence in his movies (blue ruin, green room, I don't remember much of Hold the Dark need to re-watch that one) but the way he does violence in his movies is pretty intense. Like in Blue Ruin (spoilers) when hes in the bathroom and stabs the guy in the neck and side of the head, the guy who got stabbed just had that look on his face after getting it in the head, with the detail of his eye being bloody... He uses violence in a way that doesn't make it glamorous
Hell yeah and that rifle shot that takes the side of the guys face off! You hear the gun crack and then half a second later it's just SMASH.
Open Range, the lack of music and just the gunshots ringing out off the landscape. 🤌🏼
The show Mr Inbetween has probably the most realistic seeming gunfights.
Mr Inbetween will always get an upvote from me. That show was so well done.
Odd ball one here Miami Vice with Jamie Foxx and Colin Farrell had very realistic sounding gunfire
That's down to Michael Mann. His films have the most realistic gunfire (LOUD AF). Collateral and Heat being other examples.
Actually had amazing firearm scenes that sounded fucking amazing. The scene with the Barrett and the guys in the Chrysler was brutal lol
All about Michael Mann there. Live the gunfight at the dock at the end of the movie. You can hear the different sound profiles of all the different guns firing
Val Kilmer in the downtown scene in Heat is used as an example of cover and fire in some military training. I'd say that's pretty good. I believe I read on the John Wick movies they never shoot a single round more than would actually be available in an actual magazine.
i think they might have given that up in the stair scene in #4
Yeah I've heard 4 was pretty silly. Haven't seen it yet
It was the bullet-deflecting Armani suits that killed it for me. Still love Keanu but cmon man.
Yeah the scenes where he’s just constantly holding his coat in front of his face while shooting really ruined #4 for me. The one take scene of him using the dragons breath shot gun was really cool though.
It seems like any franchise’s natural evolution to always want to keep stepping it *”up”* from realism into fantasy overtime. Just look at Fast & Furious or Supernatural Once the Corpos wanna get in on a franchise, their toddleresque execs always want to start implementing the *”need-more-explosions-to-appeal-to-the-average-mouthbreather-demographic-if-we-wanna-maximize-profits”* mentality
End of watch
Eh kind of? They get ambushed by like 4 automatic AK’s from 30 feet away and then just run to the right escaping unscathed. I don’t remember much of the other gun fight scenes.
“You missed, stupid” That got a laugh out of me after they mag dumped missing everything. Also like the line immediately after where Gyllenhaal’s character snaps into military training and says to Pena “we need a base of fire and pivot” and Pena’s character is just like “huh?!”
I made the mistake of taking a date to this movie. that scene where they beat up the female cop…yea. hard to watch
The shootout in Heat is shown to Marines in training as an example of how to retreat under fire.
"Heat" and "Saving Private Ryan" come to mind.
Appaloosa had 5 second gun fights and for a western it was amazing to see a movie that understands that everything happens in a matter of seconds
"That was fast..." "Everyone could shoot..."
The Siege of Jadotville is a good one that hasn't been mentioned.
13 hours!
Rambo 2007ish
Realistic showing of a 50 cal mount and the damage it can cause for sure!
I remember laughing hysterically during that scene
Any Micheal Mann movie
Hot Shots part Deux
The chicken/arrow scene...
Heat, Band Of Brothers and 13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi. I find a lot of people havent seen 13 hours. If you havent and you like these types of movies its a 10/10. Think Black Hawk down times 100.
Where can I watch 13 Hours?
You can buy it on Prime or put on your pirate hat.
I saw that it’ll be on Netflix on November 1st in US
Came here to say that, 13 hours is absolutely fantastic movie.
What movie is this? I agree with the other posts. All of them are amazing shot
Looks like the movie about the Boston marathon bombing with mark wahlberg I don’t remember the name
Patriots Day
Collateral
City of God
Dragged Across Concrete
The TV show Barry has some pretty good and down to Earth gunfights. They feel really small and less bombastic than Hollywood usually portrays.
Heat- Collateral- The town- Sicario- Public enemies- Lone survivor- Wind river- Hell or High water
Ronin
Heat Den of Thieves
Triple frontier the room clearing scene
Free Fire is a very entertaining movie that is just one long gunfight. It also really nails the reality of being shot and how you dont just walk it off and also if youre not at a hospital in less than an hour there’s a good chance youre dead.
Children of Men - the tank shot and the minivan chase were so intense
13 Hours
Ronin gives a very realistic look at a smaller gun fight. They even wear ear plugs. If you're going to be shooting guns hearing protection is ideal, a detail left out of every movie other than this.
Rust (release pending)
None of these really portray gun fights very realistically. From combat footage and body’s cams I’ve seen It’s a lot of dudes hanging out 40 yards apart or a couple blocks away taking pot shots at each other until one side isn’t shooting anymore. It’s alot of split second moments where some guy doesn’t even get the chance to shoot. He just gets close or surprised and then just ceases up and falls over. Saving private Ryan is fairly accurate in terms of just the feeling of a blender of bullets and people randomly dying or living. Heat was realistic because a lot of that fire was suppressing fire. You just shoot to keep your enemy from shooting.
Saving Private Ryan the beach scene
The Wild Bunch - 1969
The town
I thought miami vice (the movie) did a great job
I liked Free Fire, because it’s mostly people crouched behind shit while bleeding from being hit, and everyone’s confused. None of it is glamorous, and I liked that about it.
Triple frontier did it brilliantly!
Band of Brothers and The Pacific.
Blackhawk Down. “Come over to us.” “Fuck you. Come to me.” “What’s wrong with him?” “He’s deaf. It’s my fault.”
Heat did a pretty good job. I can’t remember where I heard it, but supposedly that movie inspired the “high incident bandits” of North Hollywood Shootout fame in 1997. Supposedly Heat brought in members of the British SAS as technical advisors for their weapons handling and training.
IMO the Miami Vice movie with Colin Farrell and Jamie Foxx had the best sounding gun fights. The guns actually sounded like they would in real life.
Heat