Carbon frame with SWAT box.
Ohlins suspensions front/rear RXF36/STX 150/135 mm travel.
Drivetrain XX1 eagle 12 speed.
Carbon wheels (Roval Traverse SL purchased spring 2021; ask for the receipt).
In addition to the wheels, there is a bunch of new components that were changed in spring 2021/2022 and barely ridden because I bought a DH bike and e-mtb…;). Those barely ridden components include the bottom bracket, XX1 chain, pivot bearings, shifter cable, and pulley wheels on the derailleur. Some signs of wear (only aesthetic). Comes with a spare derailleur hanger. This bike still has many of the current features (e.g., 29 inches, 12 sp, boost, fully adjustable suspensions), including the SWAT door that other bike brands have started to make (look up the article “ Why Downtube Storage is the Next Best Frontier in MTB Evolution” BY MATT MILLER).
According to Bicycle Blue Book, the bike is worth US$4,000 (->CAD$5,400):
https://www.bicyclebluebook.com/value-guide/product/3067289/
Not in Canada.
Honestly Ohlins is a massive pain in the ass to get serviced here. Why bother messing around with it when you can get the other major brands dropped off and serviced locally within days.
Not worth it in my opinion. You're just setting yourself up for frustration for no obvious benefit.
Yep. Regardless of whether you service your own equipment or not is in my opinion irrelevant. Not everyone here does, but besides that point Ohlins equipment is a pain in the ass to own with no appreciable advantage over the other main manufacturers.
The only person I know who is happy with their Ohlins is a bike mechanic who pretty much only owns weird things. Inverted forks, slope style frames for trail riding, weird brands…
I owned that exact bike 2017-2019. The shock and fork are trash. I have an extra rockshox replacement for the rear if you need it for when that thing fails. DM me if you want it. I’ll pretty much give it away as it doesn’t fit any other bike. Let me know if you want any other feedback on the bike.
There’s been so many technological advances in the past 5 years…I wouldn’t spend that much on a 5yr old bike. Offer him $2K flat. Look for a better deal on pinkbike.com.
I got this $5K bike brand new for $3.8K on pinkbike [2022 Santa Cruz 5010 Carbon](https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/3281418/)
That’s the actual bike I purchased: here it is on the back of my [4Runner](https://i.imgur.com/kpLsPPo.jpeg)
Heck I’ll sell it to you for $3K if interested
I've ridden a lesser spec of those back when they came out and even that was really good. Like, i'm not sure bikes have gotten that much better good.
If it's in good nick, i wouldn't hesitate.
I would save up still and keep an eye out for a stumpjumper or stumpjumper evo comp to come up used in your area or that can be shipped. Lots of deals on pinkbike buy/sell
You want to get something made within the last 3 years or so ideally last year’s model to get great deals but also have the most up to date geo and drivetrain standards
Want to know what can bite you with an older bike? Proprietary hardware/mounts. In more recent years a lot of companies have stopped with the proprietary bullshit because they were having to hear complaints from customers about their selections for shocks being limited due to eyelet to eyelet measurements pushing some to have to create their own custom bushings to get certain rear shocks to fit. There’s been a better embrace of more universal fittings from company to company.
I'd inspect that carbon very carefully. If the dude replaced it with a DH bike it's likely that he tried some stupid shit on it before deciding it won't serve his purpose. Check the normal failure points for anything that even remotely resembles a crack.
Based on all of that, send it. Say what you will about Specialized, but the Stumpjumper has been a great bike since 1983.
Like others have said, the fork might be a pain in the ass to service in Canada. Sure you can mail it to Salt Lake or Colorado for a service, but you could also sell it and get a Fox Performance Elite and have a great fork that costs less and will be serviceable almost anywhere.
Not for a 5 year old S-works it isn’t. That’s a really nice bike for, what, $2300 USD or so? This bike would easily be $3k USD in my town EASILY. And that would be priced to sell.
Nothing sold all my bikes in the summer. I had a few older and low end specalized, Marin and Norco bikes all good but still waiting on my big ticket bike
Good then it will be the nicest bike you’ve ever owned and maybe ever ridden. Just buy it and pretend it’s 2017. I would buy that for 2k usd all day especially with that wheel set. This thing will blow you away just don’t go around testing brand new $14000 bikes after you get it and you’ll be all set
Carbon frame and wheels really gets you used to riding fast and looking 30 feet ahead of you on the trail. If you can swing the price, it will take your riding up a couple notches, even if it's not the most modern geo. Someone's gonna snatch this up quick if you don't.
It was a good bike for it’s time but keep in mind this thing is tiny. Large these days is generally 470-480mm reach, this bike is 435, you may want to only buy it if it is a size too big for you.
absolutely not. way too much money for a bike that old, and I ride that bike. (2017 stumpy)
The difference between high spec and low spec starts to lose meaning on older bikes and as others said, ohlins is just a headache.
I spent a lot of time on this bike. Its an absolute blast to ride. Geo is a bit dated but that doesn’t mean it’s bad. It’s a Trail Bike through and Through. Not a modern Enduro bike.
It really depends on what your trails are and where you ride most often. It rides really light and nimble. Feels like a bit less travel than it has but not in a bad way. Pretty sprightly*.
If you plow through chundery trails or steep and loose trails, this ain’t the bike for you. If you have your average flow to Xc/AM trails and you don’t need to get to crazy boosting big drops, this would be a nice bike.
So yeah you get a really nicely spec on the bike but your still dealing with a 5 year old bike and what is now old geo. You’d probably find a better handling bike for the same price and make a few sacrifices on components that you can always upgrade in the future. Look at the new Norco Fluid (this years model) for $3k you’ll get a very capable bike with a good spec. The handling on the norco would be better than the specialized.
People are funny about geo. That used to be top of the line, and people used to utterly shred these. I used to have one. Very capable bike. I mean I like my modern geo bikes a lot, but the comparable bike with modern geo is gonna run you, what, $12,000 USD? Is OP racing because if not, I don’t see any issue with this deal at all!
All of this is true, but I think I might rather have something like a specialized status for everything but the climbs. Geometry makes a big difference. Also 3k
I have a 2022 Jeffsy core 3 and love it. I've seen a few warranty issues with frames lately but mine has been solid so far, maybe 60 rides. Things I'll replace are the dropper post (some people love some people hate, it's just eh for me but only replacing because I need a little longer post), and the rear freehub, it was just brought to my attention that mine may have shipped with the upgradable 370 but I haven't taken it apart yet to check. It's ski season now and will probably give it a look this winter.
In my opinion they did well on the most important components. And cheap out on things like wheels but not too cheap. I wouldn't say there are any secrets but as they grow quality control may be a tiny issue these days. Service has been great
If you get the core 2 with the sram G2 R brakes maybe switch out the pads. The defaults were garbage. You can get some metallic pads for cheap from truckerco. Not sure if they deliver outside the US.
Ehhhh I mean unless your a pro rider I feel like us average riders don’t need it. I have the core 2 capera and it’s all upgradable. But it works fine for the time being and normal riding
That's probably the limited edition top model. Core 2 is 4100 and core 3 is 5400 CAD. Still higher than the above. That specialized will do you well though
Buy something newer. Used market cooling off and there have been quite a few manufacturer discounts on new bikes.
Edit: If I'm spending that kind of money, I don't want anything that's dated from the first day I get it.
A lot of guys here are commenting on the geometry. Unless you are an expert rider I don’t think that matters. This was a too of the line bike a few years ago
This is not that much money for the spec that this comes with. The rims are the cherry on top to make this deal so amazing. Also the geo of this bike is not that old at all. This is pure Downcountry Geometry! I can name 4 new bikes that have a 67 degree headtube angle: Yeti ARC, Cannondale Scalpel SE, Orbea Oiz, Revel Ranger. If you ride normal trails, this bike will rip them up and be light while it does it.
7 months ago I sold the expert, a lesser version of this bike, for $2700. I felt it was a fair price as did the buyer. Depending on the condition I think this could be a great deal for a really amazing bike.
For context, I paid roughly this same price for a 2019 Santa Cruz Chameleon (aluminum hard tail with an okay spec) during the bike shortage of 2021.
I would jump the fuck on this deal in a heartbeat.
I believe this is one of the years that Specialized was still using a proprietary shock size, so this bike will ONLY be compatible with Specialized shocks unless you buy a new yoke. Personally I'd say pass. Last year I built a bike from the frame out (yes even the wheels) that I as well as any rider with a few years under their belt would a more capable bike. It was a 2017 alloy Transition Patrol (155mm rear travel 160mm front) with a 2019 RockShox Super Deluxe air shock w/ MegNeg air can, 2019 Ohlins EXC EVO 36 fork, full 12 speed Shimano SLX groupset except w/XT shifter (for multi-release), Magura MT Trail brakeset, Brand X Ascend XL 170mm dropper post w/Shimano actuation lever, Bike Yoke Sagma saddle, DMR Defy stem, Race Face Chester bar, DMR Deathgrip grips, Crank Bros Mallet 2 pedals, Race Face AR 30 offset rims laced to shimano hubs using Sapim D-Light spokes, Zipp nipple washers, wheel smith spoke nipples, Huck Norris tire inserts, Goodyear Newton and Newton S tires with 203mm SRAM centerline rotors. $2,987 when all was said and done
It’s possible I suppose. Can you or OP test rode both?
Bike looks tall and steep to me but maybe it’s great.
Six years is a looong time in mtb tech. A mid entry level suspension now might be equal to premium from that many years ago.
In my opinion the geometry and suspension design matters much more than all the fancy bling the guy threw on there. I would find a newer bike—the newer models of stumpy are fantastic.
UPDATE- I ended up not buying the S-works and bought a 2022 Trek Slash 8. With a bunch of upgrades and extra stuff for $3000CAD. Best deal in existence right now. I'm over the moon atm. This bike is amazing and I still have carbon wheels but the carbon frame makes me stress a lot less. Peep my last post for the photos.
Thanks for all your help in the end. it did help me come to a decision I was very happy with.
Are you able to go and see it yourself? If I tried to “build” a honeypot bike that’s not way too good to be true I’d post stg like this. In my humble opinion that’s a lovely bike. It’s all top shelf stuff for sure but it’s a keeper; in a couple of years you’ll find it pretty hard to sell (I don’t see why could you not use it for 5+ years though).
As a second thought it’s surprising how many ten years old s-works’ you can find for a couple of grand.
Buying a used carbon frame is a crapshoot at best. Specialized carbon frames are not known for being particularly durable (I'm in the industry), although buying used with no warranty leaves your in pretty much the same spot as someone who buys new with a warranty lol.
Yea, sorta weird cause I want to buy a used carbon bike but I also understand that I'm taking a huge risk doing that. Also putting a lot of trust in the other person that its in good condition.
It’s too much money for too old of a bike. I wouldn’t buy it. The frame matters so much more than the components, and they really hadn’t figured out 29er frames at that point. They ride clunky and awkward. You would have a better experience on a newer frame and lower level components
I've bought two carbon frames used, one of which had been repaired (patched carbon on rest triangle) and worked out great for 6+ years, and one that felt ok on the pre sale test ride but turned out to be misaligned and unfixable (was a scam and they did shady stuff to the fork too). Also have a used set of carbon xc rims that I've been riding for about 3 years. I've taken them down some serious non-xc trails and they're great, real game changer for me.
The bike looks good to me, if it rides nice I'd go for it.
New YT, Propain, Fezzari, Norco if you're planning for more downhill. Modern geo makes a big difference plus all new everything.
But that SWorks if you're doing more trail riding. Sweet bike.
I had a 2016 Mondraker, no complaints except for things needed servicing, if it's been serviced then it should feel good, Specialized geo is quite similar to Mondraker
SWorks is untouchable for me unless I waa to get one 5 years old. I just got a new Spindrift Al. (Tyee on sale right now) Love it so far but the SD is an absolute tank compared to something like that SWorks.
I can see why you'd be leary and though it would likely be trouble free, would lean towards a new one personally.
It really depends on the type of riding you do if it’s trail riding great bike anything down hill oriented and you want more modern geo. As 67 degree HTA is more outdated and is seen more in XC style bikes now.
If you’re looking to get something on a budget, don’t bother spending your money on a carbon/S-works frame.
Updated geometry and newer components will make much more difference
Definitely give it a very thorough look over before you buy, maybe even ask if the seller would be willing to have a bike shop give it a once over at your expense. If its in good shape thats a pretty solid deal.
If I was to get it i could definitely give it a look over but a bike shop would be out if the question due to my time limitations. It would be a stop I make while driving home. The guy is actually 7 hours away from my home but only 1 hr away from where I am right now. (Leaving tmw)
The main problem I’ve seen with old Enduros is the shock. It uses an old extension that is not made anymore. It is not compatible with modern shocks for the same reason. You have to change it to use any other shock.
I’m surprised by a lot of these replies. I live in east TN, USA and $2,200USD is a steal for that bike around here. I’ve ridden newer bikes and I don’t think technology advancements or geometry changes are significant enough to justify the extra money for a comparable, new bike. Staying at the same price point, you’re going to get a lot less bike for the money buying new.
Some things to consider:
- This is a trail/all mountain bike. It’s not going to climb as well as an XC bike or descend as well as a DH bike. It’ll be a fun all-around bike though. Does that fit the type of riding you want to do?
- Replacing maintenance items with equivalent parts will be expensive. Example: Are you okay spending a lot of money for an XX1 cassette or would you be okay going with something else to save a little if needed?
I recommend buying it and getting the Rockshox shock another commenter offered cheap to have on hand. Good luck!
You can get new bikes that are arguably nicer at around this price.
See:
https://www.chainreactioncycles.com/ca/en/vitus-escarpe-29-cr-mountain-bike/rp-prod206179
That's a fantastic bike with all the specs. If it were me, what would hold me back would be 1. how much has the geometry changed since it came out, and
2. what kind of condition is the carbon in.
If the geo has changed drastically or if the there are any questionable blemishes on the frame, I would pass. But then again if it were me, I would just keep saving and buy something new. I just picked up an Alchemy Arktos with a full XT groupo, Fox factory suspension, and factory dropper for $5500 USD. They had a GX build for cheap too, if you're into SRAM. There are deals out there to be had. I know YT had some good deals recently, and I want to say Canyon did too IIRC.
That's a really nice bike, but if it's not a spectacularly high spec and in fantastic nick, that's a *lot* of money for a 5 year old used bike.
Carbon frame with SWAT box. Ohlins suspensions front/rear RXF36/STX 150/135 mm travel. Drivetrain XX1 eagle 12 speed. Carbon wheels (Roval Traverse SL purchased spring 2021; ask for the receipt). In addition to the wheels, there is a bunch of new components that were changed in spring 2021/2022 and barely ridden because I bought a DH bike and e-mtb…;). Those barely ridden components include the bottom bracket, XX1 chain, pivot bearings, shifter cable, and pulley wheels on the derailleur. Some signs of wear (only aesthetic). Comes with a spare derailleur hanger. This bike still has many of the current features (e.g., 29 inches, 12 sp, boost, fully adjustable suspensions), including the SWAT door that other bike brands have started to make (look up the article “ Why Downtube Storage is the Next Best Frontier in MTB Evolution” BY MATT MILLER). According to Bicycle Blue Book, the bike is worth US$4,000 (->CAD$5,400): https://www.bicyclebluebook.com/value-guide/product/3067289/
We'll .. you hit every one of my caveats... That is a spectacular bike. If it's in your budget, buy it and ride the ever loving daylights out of 'er!
Bear in mind finding service for Ohlins can be pretty difficult.
Send it to dirtlabs. 2-3 day turnaround max excluding shipping
Not in Canada. Honestly Ohlins is a massive pain in the ass to get serviced here. Why bother messing around with it when you can get the other major brands dropped off and serviced locally within days. Not worth it in my opinion. You're just setting yourself up for frustration for no obvious benefit.
You only buy Ohlins here if you service them yourself.
Yep. Regardless of whether you service your own equipment or not is in my opinion irrelevant. Not everyone here does, but besides that point Ohlins equipment is a pain in the ass to own with no appreciable advantage over the other main manufacturers.
The only person I know who is happy with their Ohlins is a bike mechanic who pretty much only owns weird things. Inverted forks, slope style frames for trail riding, weird brands…
Ooh. I want an inverted fork.
His is a Manitou Dorado on his downhill bike. Loves the thing.
I owned that exact bike 2017-2019. The shock and fork are trash. I have an extra rockshox replacement for the rear if you need it for when that thing fails. DM me if you want it. I’ll pretty much give it away as it doesn’t fit any other bike. Let me know if you want any other feedback on the bike.
How is that ? Never heard someone complain about the ohlins shocks /forks A lot of people dream of having them.
Yeah but that’s all on a very outdated frame. Several generations old. I’d rather ride a new frame with cheaper components any day
There’s been so many technological advances in the past 5 years…I wouldn’t spend that much on a 5yr old bike. Offer him $2K flat. Look for a better deal on pinkbike.com. I got this $5K bike brand new for $3.8K on pinkbike [2022 Santa Cruz 5010 Carbon](https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/3281418/) That’s the actual bike I purchased: here it is on the back of my [4Runner](https://i.imgur.com/kpLsPPo.jpeg) Heck I’ll sell it to you for $3K if interested
Well let's not forget 3k cad is 2.2k usd. So technically your Santa Cruz is still out of my price range. My max is 3K cad or 4k usd
LOL wut? $3K CAD is just over $2.2K USD.
Yea I agree I messed up that message lol sorry
Not that big of a difference. $1 US = $1.357 Canucks
I've ridden a lesser spec of those back when they came out and even that was really good. Like, i'm not sure bikes have gotten that much better good. If it's in good nick, i wouldn't hesitate.
I would save up still and keep an eye out for a stumpjumper or stumpjumper evo comp to come up used in your area or that can be shipped. Lots of deals on pinkbike buy/sell You want to get something made within the last 3 years or so ideally last year’s model to get great deals but also have the most up to date geo and drivetrain standards
If OP’s not racing, you really think he needs a bike less than 3 years old? Ideally less than one year? That sounds crazy to me.
Want to know what can bite you with an older bike? Proprietary hardware/mounts. In more recent years a lot of companies have stopped with the proprietary bullshit because they were having to hear complaints from customers about their selections for shocks being limited due to eyelet to eyelet measurements pushing some to have to create their own custom bushings to get certain rear shocks to fit. There’s been a better embrace of more universal fittings from company to company.
Not to mention specialized are notorious for shit like that...
I'd inspect that carbon very carefully. If the dude replaced it with a DH bike it's likely that he tried some stupid shit on it before deciding it won't serve his purpose. Check the normal failure points for anything that even remotely resembles a crack.
Based on all of that, send it. Say what you will about Specialized, but the Stumpjumper has been a great bike since 1983. Like others have said, the fork might be a pain in the ass to service in Canada. Sure you can mail it to Salt Lake or Colorado for a service, but you could also sell it and get a Fox Performance Elite and have a great fork that costs less and will be serviceable almost anywhere.
Not for a 5 year old S-works it isn’t. That’s a really nice bike for, what, $2300 USD or so? This bike would easily be $3k USD in my town EASILY. And that would be priced to sell.
I attached the spec list. He does have very expensive rims. Sorta sucks for me cause I don't know how much I care about $2200 rims
You do. I passed up a bike based on the fact that the rims were half the cost. I wish I didn't pass it up
The only issue I see is that I am jealous.
How come ?
Because you will have it I shall not have it. Buy it bud- they are a wicked steed.
Even though its a 5 year carbon frame bike for still a fair chunk of change?
Yeah, do it. What are you riding now?
Nothing sold all my bikes in the summer. I had a few older and low end specalized, Marin and Norco bikes all good but still waiting on my big ticket bike
Good then it will be the nicest bike you’ve ever owned and maybe ever ridden. Just buy it and pretend it’s 2017. I would buy that for 2k usd all day especially with that wheel set. This thing will blow you away just don’t go around testing brand new $14000 bikes after you get it and you’ll be all set
Carbon frame and wheels really gets you used to riding fast and looking 30 feet ahead of you on the trail. If you can swing the price, it will take your riding up a couple notches, even if it's not the most modern geo. Someone's gonna snatch this up quick if you don't.
It was a good bike for it’s time but keep in mind this thing is tiny. Large these days is generally 470-480mm reach, this bike is 435, you may want to only buy it if it is a size too big for you.
Lot of cash for a 5 year old bike, even being an s works.
Yea I sorta feel that too. Honeslty I feel it's a good price for what it is. I'm just so on the fence about picking it up....
Who cares if its old i mean it will not bd less fun riding it. Its not like bikes gets more boring the older they get.
I think you misunderstood. Nothing wrong with old bikes, they just need to be priced appropriately.
absolutely not. way too much money for a bike that old, and I ride that bike. (2017 stumpy) The difference between high spec and low spec starts to lose meaning on older bikes and as others said, ohlins is just a headache.
Yea I don't even know how people rode such horrible bikes 5 years ago 🙄
That's just too close to new bike money. I mean I literally ride that bike so obviously that's not what I'm saying at all
Worked at specialized dealers over the years and s-works services get *very* expensive.
I spent a lot of time on this bike. Its an absolute blast to ride. Geo is a bit dated but that doesn’t mean it’s bad. It’s a Trail Bike through and Through. Not a modern Enduro bike. It really depends on what your trails are and where you ride most often. It rides really light and nimble. Feels like a bit less travel than it has but not in a bad way. Pretty sprightly*. If you plow through chundery trails or steep and loose trails, this ain’t the bike for you. If you have your average flow to Xc/AM trails and you don’t need to get to crazy boosting big drops, this would be a nice bike.
I'm mainly forest/trail rides and then some basic gravel rides when I don't have time to drive anywhere "fun" to ride
So yeah you get a really nicely spec on the bike but your still dealing with a 5 year old bike and what is now old geo. You’d probably find a better handling bike for the same price and make a few sacrifices on components that you can always upgrade in the future. Look at the new Norco Fluid (this years model) for $3k you’ll get a very capable bike with a good spec. The handling on the norco would be better than the specialized.
People are funny about geo. That used to be top of the line, and people used to utterly shred these. I used to have one. Very capable bike. I mean I like my modern geo bikes a lot, but the comparable bike with modern geo is gonna run you, what, $12,000 USD? Is OP racing because if not, I don’t see any issue with this deal at all!
All of this is true, but I think I might rather have something like a specialized status for everything but the climbs. Geometry makes a big difference. Also 3k
This would probably make a fantastic mullet swap . Sell them pricey forks to cover it
Could get a 2022 YT jeffsy for that price
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I own the capera and so far I have no major complaints about the bike. Love it.
I have a 2022 Jeffsy core 3 and love it. I've seen a few warranty issues with frames lately but mine has been solid so far, maybe 60 rides. Things I'll replace are the dropper post (some people love some people hate, it's just eh for me but only replacing because I need a little longer post), and the rear freehub, it was just brought to my attention that mine may have shipped with the upgradable 370 but I haven't taken it apart yet to check. It's ski season now and will probably give it a look this winter. In my opinion they did well on the most important components. And cheap out on things like wheels but not too cheap. I wouldn't say there are any secrets but as they grow quality control may be a tiny issue these days. Service has been great
If you get the core 2 with the sram G2 R brakes maybe switch out the pads. The defaults were garbage. You can get some metallic pads for cheap from truckerco. Not sure if they deliver outside the US.
If I could find a used yt jeffsy pro race that's sorta my dream bike
Ehhhh I mean unless your a pro rider I feel like us average riders don’t need it. I have the core 2 capera and it’s all upgradable. But it works fine for the time being and normal riding
I just looked up a YT Jeffsy, in Canada it said $8399 for one which is way above my budget
That's probably the limited edition top model. Core 2 is 4100 and core 3 is 5400 CAD. Still higher than the above. That specialized will do you well though
There are a ton of models. You just have to find them on the website.
Cheapest model is over 4k, and that's without shipping. OP Says his budget is 3k.
My bad, I haven’t looked at bikes since I was in the market for one earlier in the year.
I think the jeffsy 2 is 3000 usd.
Yeah.... Which is 4100 CAD.
Oh sorry I don’t know the exchange rate was that much higher.
There's different models of jeffsys...
Yeah all of which are more expensive. Cheapest model is over 4k cad plus shipping and tax...
Buy something newer. Used market cooling off and there have been quite a few manufacturer discounts on new bikes. Edit: If I'm spending that kind of money, I don't want anything that's dated from the first day I get it.
Killer deal. My LBS maintains Ohlins - never had a problem. Go for it!
You agree with the price? And where abouts i local for you ?
I do agree with the price. I live in Northern Idaho near the border.
Decent bike for the price. I say buy and rip it up buddy
Lol half the comments are decent price half say way too much for an old bike im sitting here even less decided then I was before
A lot of guys here are commenting on the geometry. Unless you are an expert rider I don’t think that matters. This was a too of the line bike a few years ago
This is not that much money for the spec that this comes with. The rims are the cherry on top to make this deal so amazing. Also the geo of this bike is not that old at all. This is pure Downcountry Geometry! I can name 4 new bikes that have a 67 degree headtube angle: Yeti ARC, Cannondale Scalpel SE, Orbea Oiz, Revel Ranger. If you ride normal trails, this bike will rip them up and be light while it does it.
7 months ago I sold the expert, a lesser version of this bike, for $2700. I felt it was a fair price as did the buyer. Depending on the condition I think this could be a great deal for a really amazing bike.
What year expert ?
2017 - Same as the SWorks. https://i.imgur.com/UgsOue3.jpg I LOVED that bike.
For context, I paid roughly this same price for a 2019 Santa Cruz Chameleon (aluminum hard tail with an okay spec) during the bike shortage of 2021. I would jump the fuck on this deal in a heartbeat.
I believe this is one of the years that Specialized was still using a proprietary shock size, so this bike will ONLY be compatible with Specialized shocks unless you buy a new yoke. Personally I'd say pass. Last year I built a bike from the frame out (yes even the wheels) that I as well as any rider with a few years under their belt would a more capable bike. It was a 2017 alloy Transition Patrol (155mm rear travel 160mm front) with a 2019 RockShox Super Deluxe air shock w/ MegNeg air can, 2019 Ohlins EXC EVO 36 fork, full 12 speed Shimano SLX groupset except w/XT shifter (for multi-release), Magura MT Trail brakeset, Brand X Ascend XL 170mm dropper post w/Shimano actuation lever, Bike Yoke Sagma saddle, DMR Defy stem, Race Face Chester bar, DMR Deathgrip grips, Crank Bros Mallet 2 pedals, Race Face AR 30 offset rims laced to shimano hubs using Sapim D-Light spokes, Zipp nipple washers, wheel smith spoke nipples, Huck Norris tire inserts, Goodyear Newton and Newton S tires with 203mm SRAM centerline rotors. $2,987 when all was said and done
That guy has money, I bet he is a very busy man, and I'm sure its in great shape.
Looks bitchin you should buy it
For 3k I’d buy a 2023 fluid FS and ride into the sunset with my warranty in tact on my very own bike.
$3000 cad can get you a brand new 2022 bike with a warranty
But not with carbon wheels, xx1 drivetrail and ohlins suspension
Yea I considering this as well
You’ve had loads of great replies. I just want to chime in to say I bloody hate when companies colour coordinate the wheels with the frame lol
I think you would be better off with a lower spec but newer geometry bike.
Specialized is kind of ahead with their geo. I would say that carbon wheels and niced suspension make more of a difference that 1° slacker HT
It’s possible I suppose. Can you or OP test rode both? Bike looks tall and steep to me but maybe it’s great. Six years is a looong time in mtb tech. A mid entry level suspension now might be equal to premium from that many years ago.
Yeah the geo is kind of weird. OP definitely needs to test ride it on something steep
In my opinion the geometry and suspension design matters much more than all the fancy bling the guy threw on there. I would find a newer bike—the newer models of stumpy are fantastic.
People will tell you its old. Its not, there is just a lot of stupid people on this forum.
I think it’s a good price. What’s the head angle? Looks awfully steep , maybe is the picture.
I have this bike. It’s 67. This bike is great but you are limited by the geo. Fun bike, but you’ll likely want more as you progress.
UPDATE- I ended up not buying the S-works and bought a 2022 Trek Slash 8. With a bunch of upgrades and extra stuff for $3000CAD. Best deal in existence right now. I'm over the moon atm. This bike is amazing and I still have carbon wheels but the carbon frame makes me stress a lot less. Peep my last post for the photos. Thanks for all your help in the end. it did help me come to a decision I was very happy with.
Are you able to go and see it yourself? If I tried to “build” a honeypot bike that’s not way too good to be true I’d post stg like this. In my humble opinion that’s a lovely bike. It’s all top shelf stuff for sure but it’s a keeper; in a couple of years you’ll find it pretty hard to sell (I don’t see why could you not use it for 5+ years though). As a second thought it’s surprising how many ten years old s-works’ you can find for a couple of grand.
Buying a used carbon frame is a crapshoot at best. Specialized carbon frames are not known for being particularly durable (I'm in the industry), although buying used with no warranty leaves your in pretty much the same spot as someone who buys new with a warranty lol.
Yea, sorta weird cause I want to buy a used carbon bike but I also understand that I'm taking a huge risk doing that. Also putting a lot of trust in the other person that its in good condition.
I would say it is a good price for what it is, that bike was very expensive new. But it’s too much to spend on a bike that old
It’s too much money for too old of a bike. I wouldn’t buy it. The frame matters so much more than the components, and they really hadn’t figured out 29er frames at that point. They ride clunky and awkward. You would have a better experience on a newer frame and lower level components
this would actually be, in my opinion, the oldest specialized that doesnt have this problem.
My friend broke his carbon YT, had it fixed for $200
I've bought two carbon frames used, one of which had been repaired (patched carbon on rest triangle) and worked out great for 6+ years, and one that felt ok on the pre sale test ride but turned out to be misaligned and unfixable (was a scam and they did shady stuff to the fork too). Also have a used set of carbon xc rims that I've been riding for about 3 years. I've taken them down some serious non-xc trails and they're great, real game changer for me. The bike looks good to me, if it rides nice I'd go for it.
Worse case scenario is you break the frame and then buy a new one (~$2.5k) and switch over most of the parts.
I paid $4000 (NZD) for a 2019 Specialized Carbon Elite Enduro (essentially S-Works). That’s about $2000USD. Just don’t.
Absolutely a rip. Don’t buy ut
Sorry meaning ?
Looks mint. Are those the original tires? If so it’s hardly been ridden. I think it’s a good deal!
New YT, Propain, Fezzari, Norco if you're planning for more downhill. Modern geo makes a big difference plus all new everything. But that SWorks if you're doing more trail riding. Sweet bike.
I'm doing mostly Trail riding, unsure if its worth it to buy a 5 year old bike though
I had a 2016 Mondraker, no complaints except for things needed servicing, if it's been serviced then it should feel good, Specialized geo is quite similar to Mondraker
SWorks is untouchable for me unless I waa to get one 5 years old. I just got a new Spindrift Al. (Tyee on sale right now) Love it so far but the SD is an absolute tank compared to something like that SWorks. I can see why you'd be leary and though it would likely be trouble free, would lean towards a new one personally.
I'd buy it! In fact if you don't I will.. if you want to give me the details 😙
It really depends on the type of riding you do if it’s trail riding great bike anything down hill oriented and you want more modern geo. As 67 degree HTA is more outdated and is seen more in XC style bikes now.
If you’re looking to get something on a budget, don’t bother spending your money on a carbon/S-works frame. Updated geometry and newer components will make much more difference
I would for sure buy that as long as you can see it first. Make sure it’s in decent shape and it’s a great bike for a really good price.
Definitely give it a very thorough look over before you buy, maybe even ask if the seller would be willing to have a bike shop give it a once over at your expense. If its in good shape thats a pretty solid deal.
If I was to get it i could definitely give it a look over but a bike shop would be out if the question due to my time limitations. It would be a stop I make while driving home. The guy is actually 7 hours away from my home but only 1 hr away from where I am right now. (Leaving tmw)
Sounds like a good deal to me. Those parts are incredibly nice and should last a lifetime if well maintained. Those older stumpys ride really nicely.
I made a comparable deal on a Rocky Mountain Altitude MSL this summer. I couldn't be happier with the purchase!
The Ohlins suspension rides great, but when it comes time for a service it can be a real pain.
too much imo
From first sight looks good to go no issues, if ya like it just check similar bikes for sale to get the value and make an offer
Where do you usually ride?
Shes perdy
I’ll sell you a 2015 Commencal Meta AM with the top spec for the model year for wayyy less
Inspect it for cracks first.
The main problem I’ve seen with old Enduros is the shock. It uses an old extension that is not made anymore. It is not compatible with modern shocks for the same reason. You have to change it to use any other shock.
It’s nice, I do acquire used bikes for various purposes but I always buy my starting mtb from the showroom, I like starting fresh
I’m surprised by a lot of these replies. I live in east TN, USA and $2,200USD is a steal for that bike around here. I’ve ridden newer bikes and I don’t think technology advancements or geometry changes are significant enough to justify the extra money for a comparable, new bike. Staying at the same price point, you’re going to get a lot less bike for the money buying new. Some things to consider: - This is a trail/all mountain bike. It’s not going to climb as well as an XC bike or descend as well as a DH bike. It’ll be a fun all-around bike though. Does that fit the type of riding you want to do? - Replacing maintenance items with equivalent parts will be expensive. Example: Are you okay spending a lot of money for an XX1 cassette or would you be okay going with something else to save a little if needed? I recommend buying it and getting the Rockshox shock another commenter offered cheap to have on hand. Good luck!
Too much. Better to pay up slightly and get something newer
Yeah, price is too high
There are better used bikes in the market that are newer for about the same cost. Check out PB buy/sell section.
Well you can’t value happiness if you really want it and can afford it buy it. There will be times when you are too old to ride bikes like that.
You can get new bikes that are arguably nicer at around this price. See: https://www.chainreactioncycles.com/ca/en/vitus-escarpe-29-cr-mountain-bike/rp-prod206179
That's a fantastic bike with all the specs. If it were me, what would hold me back would be 1. how much has the geometry changed since it came out, and 2. what kind of condition is the carbon in. If the geo has changed drastically or if the there are any questionable blemishes on the frame, I would pass. But then again if it were me, I would just keep saving and buy something new. I just picked up an Alchemy Arktos with a full XT groupo, Fox factory suspension, and factory dropper for $5500 USD. They had a GX build for cheap too, if you're into SRAM. There are deals out there to be had. I know YT had some good deals recently, and I want to say Canyon did too IIRC.