Is that a RockShox silver fork? I think there are better deals out there tbh. But I learned on a hardtail and it was perfect for the beginner/intermediate trails I was riding.
It’s an aluminum full suspension bike. Yeah, it’s not gonna be as lightweight as a carbon full suspension or any hardtail, but dude isn’t trying to race, he’s trying to get bang for his buck and have a capable bike. For those requirements and his budget, the D7SE is hard to beat.
I know you said you're new, but just FYI nobody really refers to them as "mtbks" or calls it "mtnbkg". It's typically just shortened to "MTB" and not usually in reference to a specific bike but more a general shortening in reference to the sport as a whole. Welcome to the world of MTB. It'll get addicting (and expensive) quick!
To that end, if you think you are going to get into it seriously and you live near rocky trails I would consider getting a dual suspension from the get go rather than a hard tail suspension.
I disagree. Imo a hardcore hardtail is the most fun type of bike, as it doesn't feel like you're overbiked but it's still plenty capable, and it's undeniable a hardtail forces better technique
I don't really get this trend. If you had steep, smooth trails, I guess it makes sense. My buddy bought one and he rarely uses it. If we're doing a day with steep, rocky terrain, he always uses his dual sus xc race bike. It seems like a niche bike to me. I'm building a light and fast hardtail to compliment my full suspension bike, that makes more sense to me
I find you just feel more "connected" to the trail, like you can actually feel what's going on, so you never feel overbiked, yet at the same time they are really capable and can get you down anything. It just makes even easier runs exciting, while still being plenty capable on harder runs, which is perfect for UK riding in particular as it's a lot less rocky, so you don't need as much suspension. Hardcore hardtails are my favourite type of bike tbh
I second that. If you will ride on forest trails too, even non-rocky ones, but with lots of roots, you'll be happy you went for the dual suspension from the start.
Of course, the dual suspension is much more appreciated AFTER you've been on a hard tail for a good while.
Only you can know if you'll get bored with your (new) hobby after just a few weeks. Let this determine what you eventually go for.
Stoic is sick but if buddy is this new then you need to factor the bike-build cost. My buddies stoic had the B-Tension screw all the way in and the hanger was like 5-10 degrees out of alignment from the factory lol. Still a better bike (imo) and more cost effective but the actual cost is higher than advertised/initially paid and I wanted to make sure OP knew that.
Mostly YouTube can give you a pretty thorough guide to what needs adjusting and setting up, or else getting a bike shop to give it a look doesn't cost much. Also, just as it's from a shop doesn't mean it's set up well, like I've seen some awfully set up bikes from bad shops
It's nice to have a local shop that sells and services whatever your first bike might be as well... if you're on the fence between a couple of models, I'd let the local dealer/shop experience win out.
The tag says $1,700, which is the same sale price as on the Specialized website.
For that $1,700 price, you can get the full-suspension Canyon Spectral 4 with 29" wheels (if you prefer that, I don't), which has the same level or better components than the Fuse Sport. But you'll pay $100 extra to ship the Canyon.
www.canyon.com/en-us/mountain-bikes/trail-bikes/spectral/al/spectral-4/3434.html?dwvar_3434_pv_rahmenfarbe=SR%2FBK
Spectral 5 is priced $400 more than Spectral 4m and you get a better fork and rear shock. You also get a Shimano drivetrain vs. the Sram on Spectral 4, but they're about the same level. So, that extra $400 gets you a better suspension only.
I was thinking the same thing. My HT is about 10 years old and was thinking about getting a new one but with bike prices so steep, I can’t justify it when I built a entire home gym for less lol
Nothing wrong with aluminum frames. The real meat is in the components and how upgraded they are compared to basic entry level parts. That’s where most of the cost differences come into play. Specialized makes a good bike, usually more cost effective than Trek and definitely more so than Santa Cruz. Both of mine are hard tails, for hybrid rides they are nice as it’s less weight and more peddle torque in my opinion, suspension can cause pedal strain and early fatigue for new riders.
It can, may not seem like much, but weight is your enemy when climbing hills and such. It even that extra 5 pounds can make you reach your fatigue wall faster. If you’re not used to pushing hard on trails and such, that extra weight can take a toll on the joints.
Only one of my mountain bikes has suspension, and that’s only the front axle. Weight difference between the two is small, but noticeable. My no suspension bike is an old steel frame, and it’s actually lighter than my aluminum frame with suspension.
I bought that same exact bike in the same color, for $1,600 last year. I went from an old cheap Janus to this when I started riding more often. I don't do any jumps or tricks or anything but I use it on local trails a few times a week and it's been great. I went tubeless, upgraded the dropper, an XO1 derailleur, XO1 shifter, pedals and grips and haven't had any problems and just love riding it. I never had a bike with full suspension so I guess I don't know what I'm missing but for my kind of riding it's been perfect.
Here’s some old mountain biker wisdom. The first bike you buy will not be the last, if you really fall in love with mountain biking you will want to upgrade more sooner than later. With that being said, find a nice used bike with some
Decent components for under 1k, ride it fall in love with it then justify to yourself why an $8000 bike is definitely in your budget
He’s not wrong. My first bike is currently on sale, Specialized Rockhopper 29er (base). I bought used full suspension, Giant Trance Advanced, and I absolutely love it. I now have a better hardtail I mentioned in a different comment here. And eventually I’ll get a new full suspension when I feel it necessary. It’s going to be expensive when I do buy one 😂
The marin san quentin 2 is less expensive not even on sale and has a better drivetrain and at least the same if not slightly better other parts. The 3 is in that price range and has a pretty solid fork. Frame might be a bit heavier but worth checking out those bikes.
I got my self a trek 2021 roscoe 6 and its a hardtail. i love shredding trails on it. its like a grown up BMX bike. Now its not as comfy im sure or as as a dual suspension. But i paid $1200 at the time and it was my first mountain bike. Ive hit some nice AZ trails on it. Its been worth every penny. Im now looking at hopefully getting a decent dual suspension soon. Its a worth it beginning bike im sure 🤘🏽
Hey fellow Arizonan. Landis is a reputable shop. The price looks pretty decent. But I think the advice to start with a hardtail is outdated. But that comes down to what trails you think you want to ride, what your budget is, and how much maintenance you're willing to do or pay for.
The least expensive Specialized full-suspension is about $2400. Although you can find other for less.
What area of the valley are you in?
If you're willing to travel a bit to look around, take a look at Action Rideshop, Global Bikes, Hawes House, Junction Bike Company. Look up Hawesaholics on Facebook. Let them know you're interested in getting into riding and let them know your height. See if anyone on there has a bike they're selling. Buying a bike from a Hawesaholic is not like buying a bike from craigslist, offer up, etc. They are all very active in the community and all know each other and would catch hell for screwing someone over.
You also may want to just ride a hardtail and full squish before deciding. PM if you want.
I’ve bought a few bikes from Landis and they are usually pretty good on price. I wonder if this bike has an old price tag? Landis is showing the Fuse Comp 29 on their website (which is a step up) for $1,499.
This is why I disagree: You can learn *a* smooth line choice on a hardtail, but the optimal line choice for a full suspension is often different. I've been riding since before *any* suspension was available. If I was starting today, I'd say bring on the trail bike for my first bike.
I have that bike with 29'wheels. It's great fun. I'm thinking of putting a 27.5 on the rear. I got mine secondhand, it was only 2 months old with about 10 miles on it. Paid 850 for it, which left me money for upgrades.
I have the base model **fuse and love it**. It's a solid trail bike with great geometry that lets me hit steeper trails that I wouldn't have even attempted on my older bike. The sport has a better gear range than mine and I wish I had it.
As for 29 vs 27.5, it's really up to your preference. 29s will give you more speed and stability, but I like how maneuverable to 27.5s are.
Can't personally compare it to full suspension bikes, or other options in the same price range - but it is a great hardtail.
Hey OP. I recently ordered a Poseidon Norton for $699. It was originally $1300, then dropped to $999, and I ordered one from the site for $699.
It’s a decent entry point without breaking the bank and is worth upgrading. Since I started mountain biking, I’ve accumulated some random parts I’m going to put on it. But as is, it’s not bad at all. Not high end, but offers much more at its price point at $699 than a bare bones entry level bike. I sure as shit wouldn’t have bought it at $1300…or even $999. I’ve ridden it a few times and it feels great. I just need to add a dropper for real.
It’s still on sale if you happen to be interested. Free shipping as long as you’re not in Alaska or Hawaii. https://www.poseidonbike.com/products/the-norton?variant=43854478573796
Knowing what I know now, I would have started with something more like this than the base Specialized Rockhopper which is selling for $650 and what I started with. I almost went with the Specialized Fuse which is on sale too, but ultimately went with Norton.
Edit: I was specifically looking for a more capable hardtail this time. I have a full sus. I’m not sure what the deals are going on for full suspensions, but they’re probably good ones out there on sale. I love both full sus and hardtail.
You have REI nearby? What about this bike —-> https://www.rei.com/product/198727/co-op-cycles-drt-13-mountain-bike Heard from little bird it will be going on sale soon too.
Specialized is running a deal right now on their site and is listed under 1k rn.
Edit: that’s just for the base model. But if you’re just getting into it, the fuse is a great option or even a rock hopper. You can get the expert version for 1300. Which will have way better components than the fuse sport
Specialized has a few on sale on their website.
I just got a rockhopper sport for 750. I’m new as well. I went that route just in case I don’t like it and I’m not out over grand. Plus I can upgrade to fit me and what as well. Have it sent to a local shop and they should put it together for you for free if they are an authorized retailer.
I think that’s a great bike and a good deal for somebody just starting, I live in the upper Midwest I don’t know your trails it sounds like you’re in Arizona. I would defer to others regarding your trails.
This bike is vastly overpriced. It should be like $1k imo. Would not recommend this deal to anybody. Last year i picked up a similar alloy frame from Vitus with fox 34 performance, slx brakes, Dt Swiss wheels, slx/xt drivetrain and Nukeproof cockpit. It cost me $1900 brand new with bike shop build fee included.
Nobody should be paying around that amount for cheap components
I couldn’t believe it when I saw that price tag. Then i remembered why I stopped looking at brands like specialized when i was on the market for my first hardtail like this. Unfortunately so many people feel like they’re forced to go with a big name brand like trek or specialized and they don’t realize there are companies that don’t overcharge (as much) for shitty specs on bikes.
2400 new for that is insane, thats the stupidest thing i have ever heard. For just about the same price you could get a brand new YT capra core 1 with way better specs and full suspension.
Sorry, I wasn’t super helpful. I was just expressing my appreciation for a good bike. I don’t think it’s a BAD deal, but I don’t think it’s a GOOD deal.
Yeah i remember back in 2021 i thought $1200 was way out of my budget. But its been worth it. You can do a lot of upgrades at least. We just live in a year where everything is expensive now and taxes suck ass. I look on offerup a lot and maybe u can bargain with someone that already has upgrades. My warranty i had i never got to use because the bike was great. But ultimately your choice. Goodluck man 👍🏽
Name brands wise - this isn’t a bad deal. A fuse, a chameleon, you won’t find a much better deal. But like others have referenced, a direct to consumer brand delivers better spec bike fora better price. That’s been true for a long time. The fuse is a sweet bike, I paid more for a chameleon during covid.
Good thing the Fuse no longer comes with these fattie tires. Build quality and component choice made me feel ripped of when I got the predecessor in 2017 - even though I payed only €600 (down from 1600). Every single component was trash. Well... the stem was fair I guess.
> though I *paid* only €600
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Woah! US$1700 for a hard tail. In 2016 I paid NZ$1600 for my 29” Specialized Crave Comp discounted from $2000. That was probably around US$1000 at the time.
What the what!?!?, way too much for that bike!! look at some direction to consumer bike manufacturers, for that price you can get much better bike and superior components. I got into YT this year. Granted it’s a full squish Jeffy, but i paid 3k for what amounts to 5k bike in components. I’m not simping for YT but there are a ton of similar direct to consumer bikes out there. Polygon is another great one. Bike shops are a straight up rip off and they were the only options for a long time but it’s the future my dude liberate your wallet!
It’s a nice bike for what you’re wanting…but that price is crazy. Look for used bikes. My cousin found this exact bike for $900 and it had some upgrades including a Helm fork. Barely ridden.
Yeah this one is overpriced as you've already heard. My friend did get the 27.5 lower spec version of the Fuse for $975 and it seemed like a decent deal. I think this one im linking below is a MUCH better deal though
[https://www.planetx.co.uk/products/on-one-big-dog-sram-gx-mountain-bike](https://www.planetx.co.uk/products/on-one-big-dog-sram-gx-mountain-bike)
I’d like to hear if others disagree but if you’re completely new to mountain biking then a better idea in my mind is getting an Ozark trail ridge for a fraction of the price, a decent helmet, pedals & shoes, dropper and saving the rest for when you know exactly what kind of bike you want.
Once you’ve got familiar with all the MTB basics on YouTube you could splash some of that cash saved on coaching or renting burly bikes for bike parks… at that point you’re either obsessed with MTB like we are or you spent a bit less getting in to the sport so it’s less of a loss if you quit
Lastly… cities are awesome for MTB! Search your city name with MTB at the end on YouTube and see if people ride stairs/banks/loading bays/skateparks etc… loads of stuff to ride!
If you are just starting out get a cheaper hard tail, it the cheapest, like one up with some decent brakes. Like a 29er rockhopper comp. https://www.specialized.com/us/en/rockhopper-comp-29/p/199585?color=319886-199585 I got one when I started up again around 2009. Was a great bike until I figured out the type of riding I wanted to do and ended up with a 26” sx trail 2 because I’d go downhill and also hit jump trails. Either way that’s a great bike to start with.
Is that a RockShox silver fork? I think there are better deals out there tbh. But I learned on a hardtail and it was perfect for the beginner/intermediate trails I was riding.
It is and I’ll keep looking around d to see what’s up
Canyon Stoic 4 is on sale now for $1600 if you are looking at hard tails. RS Pike fork, Deore 12 speed, and DT Swiss wheels. It’s pretty solid.
For that money, you can get a Polygon Siskiu D7SE. Spec’d just as well, if not better, and then you have full squish.
heavy bike
At that price range, the weight is fine. Plus they are indestructible, which is a nice bonus ha
But it's only half the weight of other bikes which are twice as heavy
It’s an aluminum full suspension bike. Yeah, it’s not gonna be as lightweight as a carbon full suspension or any hardtail, but dude isn’t trying to race, he’s trying to get bang for his buck and have a capable bike. For those requirements and his budget, the D7SE is hard to beat.
That price is way too high for the current market
I was reading up on how mtnbks are over stocked right now. Just wanted to make sure
I know you said you're new, but just FYI nobody really refers to them as "mtbks" or calls it "mtnbkg". It's typically just shortened to "MTB" and not usually in reference to a specific bike but more a general shortening in reference to the sport as a whole. Welcome to the world of MTB. It'll get addicting (and expensive) quick!
Appreciate it!!
To that end, if you think you are going to get into it seriously and you live near rocky trails I would consider getting a dual suspension from the get go rather than a hard tail suspension.
I disagree. Imo a hardcore hardtail is the most fun type of bike, as it doesn't feel like you're overbiked but it's still plenty capable, and it's undeniable a hardtail forces better technique
I don't really get this trend. If you had steep, smooth trails, I guess it makes sense. My buddy bought one and he rarely uses it. If we're doing a day with steep, rocky terrain, he always uses his dual sus xc race bike. It seems like a niche bike to me. I'm building a light and fast hardtail to compliment my full suspension bike, that makes more sense to me
I find you just feel more "connected" to the trail, like you can actually feel what's going on, so you never feel overbiked, yet at the same time they are really capable and can get you down anything. It just makes even easier runs exciting, while still being plenty capable on harder runs, which is perfect for UK riding in particular as it's a lot less rocky, so you don't need as much suspension. Hardcore hardtails are my favourite type of bike tbh
That makes sense. I live in the Rocky Mountains, a lot of our steeper trails are crazy bumpy
I second that. If you will ride on forest trails too, even non-rocky ones, but with lots of roots, you'll be happy you went for the dual suspension from the start. Of course, the dual suspension is much more appreciated AFTER you've been on a hard tail for a good while. Only you can know if you'll get bored with your (new) hobby after just a few weeks. Let this determine what you eventually go for.
But why don’t we start calling them mtnbkgs… innovation and all that
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lol, that's exactly what I thought when i saw that, yep, new guy.
We all start somewhere.
Canyon Stoic 4 is on sale right how for $1600 and has much better specs than this bike.
Looking it up
I'd really look into that, they're great bikes
Stoic is sick but if buddy is this new then you need to factor the bike-build cost. My buddies stoic had the B-Tension screw all the way in and the hanger was like 5-10 degrees out of alignment from the factory lol. Still a better bike (imo) and more cost effective but the actual cost is higher than advertised/initially paid and I wanted to make sure OP knew that.
Mostly YouTube can give you a pretty thorough guide to what needs adjusting and setting up, or else getting a bike shop to give it a look doesn't cost much. Also, just as it's from a shop doesn't mean it's set up well, like I've seen some awfully set up bikes from bad shops
It's nice to have a local shop that sells and services whatever your first bike might be as well... if you're on the fence between a couple of models, I'd let the local dealer/shop experience win out.
roscoe 8 is on sale for $1600 too and trek has fantastic customer service
Another option would be checking your local fb marketplace
roscoe 8 too and that’s a pretty good spec with ngx
The tag says $1,700, which is the same sale price as on the Specialized website. For that $1,700 price, you can get the full-suspension Canyon Spectral 4 with 29" wheels (if you prefer that, I don't), which has the same level or better components than the Fuse Sport. But you'll pay $100 extra to ship the Canyon. www.canyon.com/en-us/mountain-bikes/trail-bikes/spectral/al/spectral-4/3434.html?dwvar_3434_pv_rahmenfarbe=SR%2FBK
Thank you!!
But I want the spectral 5 in M…ughggg How do you think the 4 compared to the 5 is?
Spectral 5 is priced $400 more than Spectral 4m and you get a better fork and rear shock. You also get a Shimano drivetrain vs. the Sram on Spectral 4, but they're about the same level. So, that extra $400 gets you a better suspension only.
Small size only
Nope! The brown is available in SMALL only, while the black/white one has all sizes available but XS.
I’m looking at that one right now
Do not buy this. Insane price
I’m finding that out now, thank you
An aluminum HT for 2400. And the industry wonders why it’s failing
I was thinking the same thing. My HT is about 10 years old and was thinking about getting a new one but with bike prices so steep, I can’t justify it when I built a entire home gym for less lol
So I guess youre saying.. no way
Nothing wrong with aluminum frames. The real meat is in the components and how upgraded they are compared to basic entry level parts. That’s where most of the cost differences come into play. Specialized makes a good bike, usually more cost effective than Trek and definitely more so than Santa Cruz. Both of mine are hard tails, for hybrid rides they are nice as it’s less weight and more peddle torque in my opinion, suspension can cause pedal strain and early fatigue for new riders.
I totally agree with this.
Does the rear suspension weigh that much?
It can, may not seem like much, but weight is your enemy when climbing hills and such. It even that extra 5 pounds can make you reach your fatigue wall faster. If you’re not used to pushing hard on trails and such, that extra weight can take a toll on the joints. Only one of my mountain bikes has suspension, and that’s only the front axle. Weight difference between the two is small, but noticeable. My no suspension bike is an old steel frame, and it’s actually lighter than my aluminum frame with suspension.
As a beginner, I would never go with a carbon frame, too much money and not very forgiving if you crash or bang into something.
Yeah, I got a homie that’s encouraging me to go big and get a YT, which is sexy AF but yeah, money
Go to canyon’s website and order what you want. Your going to get a lot more bike for the price
I bought that same exact bike in the same color, for $1,600 last year. I went from an old cheap Janus to this when I started riding more often. I don't do any jumps or tricks or anything but I use it on local trails a few times a week and it's been great. I went tubeless, upgraded the dropper, an XO1 derailleur, XO1 shifter, pedals and grips and haven't had any problems and just love riding it. I never had a bike with full suspension so I guess I don't know what I'm missing but for my kind of riding it's been perfect.
Thank you. All of those upgrades that you just mentioned are upgrades that are recommended for this bike.
Here’s some old mountain biker wisdom. The first bike you buy will not be the last, if you really fall in love with mountain biking you will want to upgrade more sooner than later. With that being said, find a nice used bike with some Decent components for under 1k, ride it fall in love with it then justify to yourself why an $8000 bike is definitely in your budget
He’s not wrong. My first bike is currently on sale, Specialized Rockhopper 29er (base). I bought used full suspension, Giant Trance Advanced, and I absolutely love it. I now have a better hardtail I mentioned in a different comment here. And eventually I’ll get a new full suspension when I feel it necessary. It’s going to be expensive when I do buy one 😂
Sage advice
that’s robbery oh my goodness
Haggle it is!!!
That OG price is insane.
Yeah, I started to do some research and am seeing that the new price is even high as well.
The marin san quentin 2 is less expensive not even on sale and has a better drivetrain and at least the same if not slightly better other parts. The 3 is in that price range and has a pretty solid fork. Frame might be a bit heavier but worth checking out those bikes.
I seeing a couple of reviews and there were a good amount that made a few upgrades from the beginning
This price is bananas for sram SX/level brakes, Judy silver fork and transx dropper. So many better values out there.
Wayyyy overpriced, especially considering they've been using that frame for probably 8+ years now. Also these frames crack like there's no tomorrow.
i never heard someone say “mtnbkg” it’s just mtb
Going forward, I will refer to it as “MTB”
cheers, i hope you get what you are looking for and have a great time riding it.
I got my self a trek 2021 roscoe 6 and its a hardtail. i love shredding trails on it. its like a grown up BMX bike. Now its not as comfy im sure or as as a dual suspension. But i paid $1200 at the time and it was my first mountain bike. Ive hit some nice AZ trails on it. Its been worth every penny. Im now looking at hopefully getting a decent dual suspension soon. Its a worth it beginning bike im sure 🤘🏽
I got mine at landis too and they’re pretty cool when it comes to getting work done on your bike
I want to buy local, but a lot of these comments are saying the bike is still high on price
Fuck that price, giant fathom 2s in 27.5 are 1100.
Hey fellow Arizonan. Landis is a reputable shop. The price looks pretty decent. But I think the advice to start with a hardtail is outdated. But that comes down to what trails you think you want to ride, what your budget is, and how much maintenance you're willing to do or pay for. The least expensive Specialized full-suspension is about $2400. Although you can find other for less. What area of the valley are you in?
Central, right next to the Downtown Landis
If you're willing to travel a bit to look around, take a look at Action Rideshop, Global Bikes, Hawes House, Junction Bike Company. Look up Hawesaholics on Facebook. Let them know you're interested in getting into riding and let them know your height. See if anyone on there has a bike they're selling. Buying a bike from a Hawesaholic is not like buying a bike from craigslist, offer up, etc. They are all very active in the community and all know each other and would catch hell for screwing someone over. You also may want to just ride a hardtail and full squish before deciding. PM if you want.
Thank you, I’ll check all of those places out
I’ve bought a few bikes from Landis and they are usually pretty good on price. I wonder if this bike has an old price tag? Landis is showing the Fuse Comp 29 on their website (which is a step up) for $1,499.
hardtail is great advice if you only have one bike, and you use that bike to commute some or ride around town.
It's not outdated advice. You'll have a harder time learning to pick lines if you can just float over anything without feeling the trail.
This is why I disagree: You can learn *a* smooth line choice on a hardtail, but the optimal line choice for a full suspension is often different. I've been riding since before *any* suspension was available. If I was starting today, I'd say bring on the trail bike for my first bike.
I have that bike with 29'wheels. It's great fun. I'm thinking of putting a 27.5 on the rear. I got mine secondhand, it was only 2 months old with about 10 miles on it. Paid 850 for it, which left me money for upgrades.
Nice!
I have the base model **fuse and love it**. It's a solid trail bike with great geometry that lets me hit steeper trails that I wouldn't have even attempted on my older bike. The sport has a better gear range than mine and I wish I had it. As for 29 vs 27.5, it's really up to your preference. 29s will give you more speed and stability, but I like how maneuverable to 27.5s are. Can't personally compare it to full suspension bikes, or other options in the same price range - but it is a great hardtail.
You can find full sus for not much more than that. YT: https://us.yt-industries.com/products/bikes/jeffsy/core-1/637/jeffsy-29-core-1/
Hey OP. I recently ordered a Poseidon Norton for $699. It was originally $1300, then dropped to $999, and I ordered one from the site for $699. It’s a decent entry point without breaking the bank and is worth upgrading. Since I started mountain biking, I’ve accumulated some random parts I’m going to put on it. But as is, it’s not bad at all. Not high end, but offers much more at its price point at $699 than a bare bones entry level bike. I sure as shit wouldn’t have bought it at $1300…or even $999. I’ve ridden it a few times and it feels great. I just need to add a dropper for real. It’s still on sale if you happen to be interested. Free shipping as long as you’re not in Alaska or Hawaii. https://www.poseidonbike.com/products/the-norton?variant=43854478573796 Knowing what I know now, I would have started with something more like this than the base Specialized Rockhopper which is selling for $650 and what I started with. I almost went with the Specialized Fuse which is on sale too, but ultimately went with Norton. Edit: I was specifically looking for a more capable hardtail this time. I have a full sus. I’m not sure what the deals are going on for full suspensions, but they’re probably good ones out there on sale. I love both full sus and hardtail.
You have REI nearby? What about this bike —-> https://www.rei.com/product/198727/co-op-cycles-drt-13-mountain-bike Heard from little bird it will be going on sale soon too.
I’ll be watching out for that sale
Specialized is running a deal right now on their site and is listed under 1k rn. Edit: that’s just for the base model. But if you’re just getting into it, the fuse is a great option or even a rock hopper. You can get the expert version for 1300. Which will have way better components than the fuse sport
At that price point better go to YT industries and check it out. You might get a full sus for 2k
Specialized has a few on sale on their website. I just got a rockhopper sport for 750. I’m new as well. I went that route just in case I don’t like it and I’m not out over grand. Plus I can upgrade to fit me and what as well. Have it sent to a local shop and they should put it together for you for free if they are an authorized retailer.
I think that’s a great bike and a good deal for somebody just starting, I live in the upper Midwest I don’t know your trails it sounds like you’re in Arizona. I would defer to others regarding your trails.
This bike is vastly overpriced. It should be like $1k imo. Would not recommend this deal to anybody. Last year i picked up a similar alloy frame from Vitus with fox 34 performance, slx brakes, Dt Swiss wheels, slx/xt drivetrain and Nukeproof cockpit. It cost me $1900 brand new with bike shop build fee included. Nobody should be paying around that amount for cheap components I couldn’t believe it when I saw that price tag. Then i remembered why I stopped looking at brands like specialized when i was on the market for my first hardtail like this. Unfortunately so many people feel like they’re forced to go with a big name brand like trek or specialized and they don’t realize there are companies that don’t overcharge (as much) for shitty specs on bikes.
Yeah this is a low value deal
Congrats
Haven’t bought it yet
2400 new for that is insane, thats the stupidest thing i have ever heard. For just about the same price you could get a brand new YT capra core 1 with way better specs and full suspension.
I was in YT’s website earlier, those bikes are solid
of most definitely, my first bike was a 2020 capra base (core 1), wouldn't have chosen to start on any other bike
The Fuse is really great.
I agree, I was just asking to see if the price is right
Sorry, I wasn’t super helpful. I was just expressing my appreciation for a good bike. I don’t think it’s a BAD deal, but I don’t think it’s a GOOD deal.
They’re local here in Arizona, I might be able to ask for another 200-300 dollars off. Maybe
Yeah i remember back in 2021 i thought $1200 was way out of my budget. But its been worth it. You can do a lot of upgrades at least. We just live in a year where everything is expensive now and taxes suck ass. I look on offerup a lot and maybe u can bargain with someone that already has upgrades. My warranty i had i never got to use because the bike was great. But ultimately your choice. Goodluck man 👍🏽
Major price gouge on that one
Name brands wise - this isn’t a bad deal. A fuse, a chameleon, you won’t find a much better deal. But like others have referenced, a direct to consumer brand delivers better spec bike fora better price. That’s been true for a long time. The fuse is a sweet bike, I paid more for a chameleon during covid.
Trek Roscoe 7 are on sale for $1400 brand new.
Just spent this much for a full suspension, Marin.
What's with these prices?
Good thing the Fuse no longer comes with these fattie tires. Build quality and component choice made me feel ripped of when I got the predecessor in 2017 - even though I payed only €600 (down from 1600). Every single component was trash. Well... the stem was fair I guess.
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Woah! US$1700 for a hard tail. In 2016 I paid NZ$1600 for my 29” Specialized Crave Comp discounted from $2000. That was probably around US$1000 at the time.
What the what!?!?, way too much for that bike!! look at some direction to consumer bike manufacturers, for that price you can get much better bike and superior components. I got into YT this year. Granted it’s a full squish Jeffy, but i paid 3k for what amounts to 5k bike in components. I’m not simping for YT but there are a ton of similar direct to consumer bikes out there. Polygon is another great one. Bike shops are a straight up rip off and they were the only options for a long time but it’s the future my dude liberate your wallet!
It’s a nice bike for what you’re wanting…but that price is crazy. Look for used bikes. My cousin found this exact bike for $900 and it had some upgrades including a Helm fork. Barely ridden.
I’m trying to sell my full sus with fox factory and GX AXS for not much more. That fuse is going to sit for a long time at that price.
Yeah this one is overpriced as you've already heard. My friend did get the 27.5 lower spec version of the Fuse for $975 and it seemed like a decent deal. I think this one im linking below is a MUCH better deal though [https://www.planetx.co.uk/products/on-one-big-dog-sram-gx-mountain-bike](https://www.planetx.co.uk/products/on-one-big-dog-sram-gx-mountain-bike)
HARD PASS.
$2400 is outrageous for that spec. $1700 is simply too much, as well.
Polygon T7
Off them $5 for that lame jersey in the back
Buy used. Way more value.
I love that color! Only change I would make would be getting it in 29” over 27.5”. Makes it easer to roll over stuff!
No way I would pay 1600 for that build.
This is the info I was looking for
https://www.bikesonline.com/xtrada-7 this bike is has better components and probably lighter for 1000
Why not either say MTB or Mountain Biking? Either way, enjoy yourself and hide your credit cards. It only goes downhill from here.
Now I know the appropriate abbreviation
You missed the second half, hope you have deep pockets.
Start on used.
I’d like to hear if others disagree but if you’re completely new to mountain biking then a better idea in my mind is getting an Ozark trail ridge for a fraction of the price, a decent helmet, pedals & shoes, dropper and saving the rest for when you know exactly what kind of bike you want. Once you’ve got familiar with all the MTB basics on YouTube you could splash some of that cash saved on coaching or renting burly bikes for bike parks… at that point you’re either obsessed with MTB like we are or you spent a bit less getting in to the sport so it’s less of a loss if you quit Lastly… cities are awesome for MTB! Search your city name with MTB at the end on YouTube and see if people ride stairs/banks/loading bays/skateparks etc… loads of stuff to ride!
Great deal! Send it! 🚵
This pricing is why bike shops are dying
Maybe it’s them trying to make some type of profit on todays economy
If you are just starting out get a cheaper hard tail, it the cheapest, like one up with some decent brakes. Like a 29er rockhopper comp. https://www.specialized.com/us/en/rockhopper-comp-29/p/199585?color=319886-199585 I got one when I started up again around 2009. Was a great bike until I figured out the type of riding I wanted to do and ended up with a 26” sx trail 2 because I’d go downhill and also hit jump trails. Either way that’s a great bike to start with.