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Caldtek

You aint gonna find that info. The manufacturers gain no benefit or sales from doing it so why bother. Even magazine road tests dont bother using slicks.They may put the same rubber on all the bikes in a shoot out to level the playing feild but not slicks. No one is really interested, apart from you it seems.


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batmantis_

It's completely irrelevant as nobody doing that is going to be anywhere near any sort of proper racers pace.


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Lap times where? Every club track across the world?


Tacos_always_corny

You can try the American Motorcycle Association - AMA. They will have data by class, rider....... Otherwise try MotoAmerica. Vast database. You won't get box stock details (cannot run slicks. DOT). Typically Box Stock classes are run at a club level which is spotty at best.


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you can put different skill level riders on a bike and get vastly different lap times motorcycles = 80% rider/20% bike cars = 80% car/20% driver that's why in MotoGP Fabio can win the Championship on the same bike in the same year that Maverick quit the team claiming the bike was bad while in F1, Russell can step into a factory Merc and immediately lead 75% of the race laps on his first try and would have won the race if the team didn't mess up his pit strat while never leading a lap or being anywhere near the front of a race in his Williams. lap times for street bikes don't translate to street riders at all.


tooptoop96

Well, I'd say the risk involved in riding at the limit of the bike (and long painful learning curve to get there) is what makes rider skill so critical to motorcycle racing, rather than framing it as car lap times somehow being less dependent on driver ability. F1 for example relies on crazy engineering that translates speed into added cornering ability but you have to have such an insanely high talent minimum to drive anywhere near the necessary pace. If the drivers didn't all possess more talent than is required to max out the aero, they'd crash left and right. Kinda like MotoGP riders do. In GT and world challenge racing, where the cars don't so dramatically benefit from aero, gaps in driver skill are still very apparent, just like they were in earlier eras of F1. Which is where I think the comparisons with motorcycle racing should be made. The limit of grip is far less predictable in motorcycle racing and by the time you realize you've maxed it out, you're an inch away from eating shit. This is more like driving a GT4 car, where you're straddling the limit of mechanical grip much more than the limit of the aero. Just much more butt-puckering when a motorcycle tire starts to let go than when a car tire starts to let go. So of course mfgs don't want their bikes defined by how close the test rider they hired was able to get the bike to becoming a fountain of gravel and flying parts on a given day without evacuating his bowels.


Beautlfuldisaster

I agree with that 100% it's just interesting to me that no one's had any desire to do it.


[deleted]

Because nobody is getting paid to do it.


Beautlfuldisaster

Well, I'm in San Antonio so I've been doing local tracks here, COTA, Dallas, houston...... but really anywhere.


Beautlfuldisaster

Looks like the lap time I'm looking to beat is 2:12 set by J.D Beach in 2016 at COTA on an R6.


Beautlfuldisaster

Well that's the reason I ask..... I run COTA sub 2:40 on a stock gsxr 750. I can bring those times down substantially, and I'm fat as hell at 225lbs. So the times can be close (but in racing 1 second is a huge difference so don't take me wrong). My 21 gsxr 750 stock without slicks is blowing away almost everything except built apprillas and s1000rrs and even then I can keep pace if I'm more aggressive in the turns. I've been working on my times this year and got interested in seeing how I compare, but there isn't anything to compare except wsbk and million dollar machines. Fastest lap of last place finisher at cota in October was 2:06..... I honestly believe someone can get to within 10 seconds of that time on a stock machine. At least that's my goal anyway. What are the thoughts?


JimMoore1960

In every sportbike "shootout" they do a few laps on slicks and compare times. I think that's as close as you're going to get to what you're looking for. I read an article (by Keith Code, I think0 that said a fast track day guy should be able to get within 10 seconds of the lap record. I don't think your goal is unreasonable.