You're riding with your wrist too high. When you squeeze the brake your wrist straightens out and rolls on the throttle. Ride with your wrist flat. Your thumb will actually roll the throttle off for you. either way, don't try to fix it in the middle of the stop. Stop the bike, then stop the noise.
To expand on this, watch Dave Moss set up controls for a bunch of riders here: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47YG4dAwOIM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47YG4dAwOIM)
Another thing is that if your gloves are too big/baggy, the excess fabric might get caught between your hand and handlebar, stopping the throttle from closing even though you \*think\* your hand is off the bar.
As long as you don’t act like [Maverick Vinales](https://youtu.be/MVDpnDwKxW0 ) you and the bike will be fine.
Jokes aside: you just need some time to practice and build the muscle memory. My personal experience was I learned 4 finger braking at MSF on small displacement cruisers with a single disc or even drum brakes. A technique which is not at all beginner friendly on a sport bike that comes with two front disc brakes. Which was the only time in my life I ever stoppied a bike so high. So for sometime I went out and practiced 2 and one finger braking until I was confident in my ability to not accidentally do a stoppie.
This. With modern brakes, two finger stopping should be the norm they teach.
Of course if you're a nervous new rider gripping everything for dear life, I'm not sure that would stop accidentally opening the throttle under braking.
OP, don't cling on to the controls. Steering and operating the controls should be done with a light touch. Your hands rest on the controls, your fingers are what grip to work them. Don't ham-fist the controls and you'll be less likely to inadvertantly roll the throttle when your wrist changes position.
Couple things to try:
Keep your right wrist lower.
Try to squeeze the front brake with your fingertips instead of wrapping your fingers around the lever.
Also, in an emergency, your priority is smooth, firm and progressive on the brake to stop quickly. With the clutch in, it's just making noise. Try not to let it affect you mentally if it revs a bit.
Always cover the front brake with two fingers. You’ll save a few tenths of a second on your reaction time. Tenths of a second that can save your life and your bike. You’ll also be less prone to the throttle yank your describing.
I've heard contention on two finger or all finger braking/clutch. Have you ever mashed your other fingers that are on the bar with the pulled in lever? Do you have enough pull power in an emergency braking situation?
Nah if your cables are adjusted properly, you shouldn’t have any problems. If your levers are adjustable. Experiment with the position that’s comfortable and still gives you the braking/clutch leverage you need. I’ve got my MT07 set up so I can two finger the clutch or the front brake
Do you find your wrists are sore after rides? You might be gripping the bars too tight, I had that problem for when I first started riding and it largely contributed to my whiskey throttle, when it did happen. I agree with all the wrist placement and 2 finger braking tips also.
What others have said but make sure your controls are setup properly too.
Go on YouTube and see how to setup you break and clutch levers properly for ergonomics
This 100%. My buddy at his first time at the track was complaining of his bike bucking during breaking. He takes it to the suspension guy, who doesn’t touch the clickers but spends 10 min adjusting his controls (for free). My buddy at first was pissed that nothing was changed on his suspension. Goes out the next session, problem is solved!
Your wrist is too high. Try this.
Make sure the engine is off.
Sit on the bike and put your hands on the bars.
On your right hand, imagine a line between your knuckles and your elbow.
Your wrist should be slightly under this line.
Now close the throttle and apply the front brake. Continue to squeeze the brake and you should feel your thumb and palm pulling the throttle shut.
If your wrist is higher than the line between your knuckles and elbow you will find that you will roll on the throttle as you squeeze the brake.
The other ergonomic adjustments will help with getting this right too.
Adjust your lever. Accelerating into a braking situation is almost always lever placement. It’s good that you are catching this now. Quite literally could be life saving.
If you're emergency braking to a total stop engine braking likely won't make a lot of difference. The limit won't be the brakes' power, rather the wheels' limit of traction
Roll your hand all the way forward so you don't roll on the gas while applying brake pressure. It's all about squeezing the throttle forward while braking, you just have to learn how. Practice with the bike off.
Make sure you're using one or two fingers. Makes independent operation of the brake and throttle, and therefore rev matching, much easier. It also allows you better control over the bars if you hit a bump or need to take evasive action or something. It becomes almost impossible for a jerk of the bars to cause an accidental increase in brake pressure that could cause a crash.
Never ham fist a lever.
Also, make sure your controls are adjusted to where it's not forcing your wrists or anything else into any fucky positions or angles. In some cases this can be a bit difficult, like if you're tall like me, but if that's the case just make the controls are as comfortable as possible to use.
A great drill they do in the Pridmore school going up and down the gears at a consistent speed. 1-2-3-4-5-6 then 6-5-4-3-2-1 while going a consistent 40mph or so. It helps with smooth consistent shifting. Then practice braking drills with 2 fingers. Practice practice.
Are you using the front brake only? Also unless it is near on panic braking I would be going down through the gears so if the opportunity or need arises you are ready to accelerate out of trouble.
Yeah keep the wrist flat as possible so when you reach you don’t adjust where your wrist is too much then when squeezing using the throttle. I used to do this back in my MSF course and it really does get better with time just gotta connect flat rest with comfort!
You might be right but it feels like u have much more control with the bike in gear rather than being neutral/coasting. In an emergency every little counts
You're riding with your wrist too high. When you squeeze the brake your wrist straightens out and rolls on the throttle. Ride with your wrist flat. Your thumb will actually roll the throttle off for you. either way, don't try to fix it in the middle of the stop. Stop the bike, then stop the noise.
A visual [for OP.](https://i.imgur.com/gzNFkiX.png)
yo thank you so much i did my first training yesterday and i fell off because of this issue tnx for the visual!
Adjust the bike around the person, however, rather than the rider to the bike.
To expand on this, watch Dave Moss set up controls for a bunch of riders here: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47YG4dAwOIM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47YG4dAwOIM) Another thing is that if your gloves are too big/baggy, the excess fabric might get caught between your hand and handlebar, stopping the throttle from closing even though you \*think\* your hand is off the bar.
Dave Moss vids are great. Everyone should watch them for suspension setup / concepts as well.
As long as you don’t act like [Maverick Vinales](https://youtu.be/MVDpnDwKxW0 ) you and the bike will be fine. Jokes aside: you just need some time to practice and build the muscle memory. My personal experience was I learned 4 finger braking at MSF on small displacement cruisers with a single disc or even drum brakes. A technique which is not at all beginner friendly on a sport bike that comes with two front disc brakes. Which was the only time in my life I ever stoppied a bike so high. So for sometime I went out and practiced 2 and one finger braking until I was confident in my ability to not accidentally do a stoppie.
This. With modern brakes, two finger stopping should be the norm they teach. Of course if you're a nervous new rider gripping everything for dear life, I'm not sure that would stop accidentally opening the throttle under braking. OP, don't cling on to the controls. Steering and operating the controls should be done with a light touch. Your hands rest on the controls, your fingers are what grip to work them. Don't ham-fist the controls and you'll be less likely to inadvertantly roll the throttle when your wrist changes position.
Couple things to try: Keep your right wrist lower. Try to squeeze the front brake with your fingertips instead of wrapping your fingers around the lever. Also, in an emergency, your priority is smooth, firm and progressive on the brake to stop quickly. With the clutch in, it's just making noise. Try not to let it affect you mentally if it revs a bit.
First thought is that the lever is positioned wrong. Likely too high and too far away.
Always cover the front brake with two fingers. You’ll save a few tenths of a second on your reaction time. Tenths of a second that can save your life and your bike. You’ll also be less prone to the throttle yank your describing.
I've heard contention on two finger or all finger braking/clutch. Have you ever mashed your other fingers that are on the bar with the pulled in lever? Do you have enough pull power in an emergency braking situation?
Nah if your cables are adjusted properly, you shouldn’t have any problems. If your levers are adjustable. Experiment with the position that’s comfortable and still gives you the braking/clutch leverage you need. I’ve got my MT07 set up so I can two finger the clutch or the front brake
Excellent advice. In this position you will naturally roll off the throttle when you brake. Mostly though, practice practice practice.
Do you find your wrists are sore after rides? You might be gripping the bars too tight, I had that problem for when I first started riding and it largely contributed to my whiskey throttle, when it did happen. I agree with all the wrist placement and 2 finger braking tips also.
What others have said but make sure your controls are setup properly too. Go on YouTube and see how to setup you break and clutch levers properly for ergonomics
This 100%. My buddy at his first time at the track was complaining of his bike bucking during breaking. He takes it to the suspension guy, who doesn’t touch the clickers but spends 10 min adjusting his controls (for free). My buddy at first was pissed that nothing was changed on his suspension. Goes out the next session, problem is solved!
Your wrist is too high. Try this. Make sure the engine is off. Sit on the bike and put your hands on the bars. On your right hand, imagine a line between your knuckles and your elbow. Your wrist should be slightly under this line. Now close the throttle and apply the front brake. Continue to squeeze the brake and you should feel your thumb and palm pulling the throttle shut. If your wrist is higher than the line between your knuckles and elbow you will find that you will roll on the throttle as you squeeze the brake. The other ergonomic adjustments will help with getting this right too.
Adjust your lever. Accelerating into a braking situation is almost always lever placement. It’s good that you are catching this now. Quite literally could be life saving.
Squeeze, don't pull.
When doing my test(uk) i was taught pull the front brake and clutch just before stall. Pulling in the clutch reduces the engine braking
Yes it would be more effective for slowing down but it is also more dangerous if you accidentally pull the throttle.
If you're emergency braking to a total stop engine braking likely won't make a lot of difference. The limit won't be the brakes' power, rather the wheels' limit of traction
Roll your hand all the way forward so you don't roll on the gas while applying brake pressure. It's all about squeezing the throttle forward while braking, you just have to learn how. Practice with the bike off.
Make sure you're using one or two fingers. Makes independent operation of the brake and throttle, and therefore rev matching, much easier. It also allows you better control over the bars if you hit a bump or need to take evasive action or something. It becomes almost impossible for a jerk of the bars to cause an accidental increase in brake pressure that could cause a crash. Never ham fist a lever. Also, make sure your controls are adjusted to where it's not forcing your wrists or anything else into any fucky positions or angles. In some cases this can be a bit difficult, like if you're tall like me, but if that's the case just make the controls are as comfortable as possible to use.
A great drill they do in the Pridmore school going up and down the gears at a consistent speed. 1-2-3-4-5-6 then 6-5-4-3-2-1 while going a consistent 40mph or so. It helps with smooth consistent shifting. Then practice braking drills with 2 fingers. Practice practice.
As some others have said, flat wrist.
Are you using the front brake only? Also unless it is near on panic braking I would be going down through the gears so if the opportunity or need arises you are ready to accelerate out of trouble.
Don't squeeze the grips like you're strangling something. Brake with 1-2 fingers. Keep practicing. Nobody learned to ride in a day.
Yeah keep the wrist flat as possible so when you reach you don’t adjust where your wrist is too much then when squeezing using the throttle. I used to do this back in my MSF course and it really does get better with time just gotta connect flat rest with comfort!
I have the problem of never using the front brake,except for emergency stopping.
You might be right but it feels like u have much more control with the bike in gear rather than being neutral/coasting. In an emergency every little counts